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You experienced your experience of physical sex. 
That's not "astral sex".

Astral sex is a melding of energies... a becoming of one.

Phildan1,
Yeah, it's kind of driving me mental lately.  LOL
They are their own worst enemy.

It's exactly why I try so hard to get people to lose the labels.  In the end, they only hold you back.

The goal one should try to have is to simply "be consciously aware while you're non-physical"... that's it.  That's the holy grail right there, and when they do it, they still don't believe it. 

I wanted to know if I could do wbtb / and or obe4u with obstructive sleep apnea. Has anyone with any type of sleeping disorder like sleep apnea still been able to do the wbtb technique / obe4u technique?

Thanks.

If it doesn't get in the way of you actually falling asleep at night... then it shouldn't impede you from projecting. 

I'm in the process of reading the phasing_primer book. I wanted to ask on pg.30 Eyes Closed / Body Still (EC/BS) State what did you mean when you said that you had 6 experiences in a row? Were those 6 experiences in one day? Or 6 experiences within / over 6 days meaning 1 each day?

Well... basically... as I explain in the book (rather poorly perhaps?  LoL), I was in a projection and I began to feel that I was "waking up" (aka: shifting to the physical)... then as I woke, I managed to figure out to keep my eyes closed and my body completely still and within a few seconds I would shift back into the non-physical, usually, right where I was before I shifted out.
I managed to do this multiple times in a single night.  My count was six times in a row that night.  I've managed to do it several times since then.

This basically explains obe4u's technique in one page. The only difference is that obe4u says to be still upon awakening. Then try to separate for 3 to 5 seconds then if that doesn't work just do minimum two techniques for 3 to 5 seconds each.

Well from my research, it's not exactly a "new" technique.  I certainly can't take credit for "discovering it".  hehe 
It's not enough to simply "be still" upon waking though.  You have to retain that air of sleep.  So keeping your eyes closed (which is a task in itself upon waking) is paramount.
I've only managed to do it while already coming out of, at least, a non-physical lucid experience.  That seems to be the bare minimum required.

That was before now I'm rarely if ever even recalling a dream. Also, I know that LD and AP do happen in the same dimension.

No no no no no no no no no...
They don't happen "in the same dimension"... they're the same thing!   LOL

This is why you people frustrate the hell out of me... because you get EXACTLY what you're looking for, then you don't believe it simply because it's not the label you're expecting.
*GAHHHHHH!*  You're all so stuck on labels!!  This is EXACTLY why I tell you to forget about labels... that they hold you back.

You projected!  100%!  If you choose not to believe it, then you're only making things harder for yourself.  
Perhaps you need that added layer of self-created difficulty.  Meh...

I'll post more once there are more replies.

No.  You're just looking for someone to agree with you and tell you that you need to work harder.
You don't.  You've attained your goal!  *sigh*

See, this is what I mean by people limit themselves by the labels they use.
You already ARE projecting... 2 to 4 times per week.  You're just arbitrarily calling it a lucid dream.

You're consciously aware that you're in the non-physical while you're in the non-physical... that's a projection.
Sounds like you're doing great already!!  Better than most people on this forum, in fact. 

So, you see, there's nothing more you need to do.  Just enjoy yourself now.  Do what you want to do!

Btw... I *LOVE* that website.  I'm gonna have some fun with it.    hehe

Had you been aware that you were "dreaming", then it would have been a projection.

To me, the only difference between "dreaming" and "projecting" is how aware you are.

Yeah, I was a little... slow... 

well this thread sure went south in a hurry

Yeah really...

It means to be dead.  Don't be so literal people.  Wow...

I wouldn't say it failed miserably, we actually had a few successes.
The problem isn't in the program or implementation... the problem is that most people don't REALLY want to learn.
They want something fast... the "NOW" generation, they want everything now but don't want to put in the time and energy to learn it.

So meh... the program is still open and available on my forum, let me know if anyone is interested.

I don't think you're funny. It's a matter of taste.

Seemed like a statement of fact, to me.

I'm, personally, not a big fan of a lot of Monroe's concepts anymore.
In the grand scheme of things, I don't feel that they seem very logical to me any longer.

On the Search page (http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/index.php?action=search) you can put the username in the appropriate box and then search for a word or phrase by them.

Or...
You can go to their profile and click the "Show the last posts of this person." link at the bottom.  While you can't search that way, it will show ALL posts made by that person. 

I think that's about it.

Ultimately, those who take life too seriously die disappointed.
Life is to be handled in the manner which is it... a joke. 

Life... death... everything in between. 
What you did during your life isn't important.
How & why you did it is the entire point.
Do what you do with a smile on you face and love / kindness in your heart... at that point: you win. 

[think]

I'll third all of what Phil said. 

Humans just think that they can rule and control anything. And I'm not religious in any way just investigating how things are working out without distortions.

In my opinion, learning that you can't control anything is part of the reason why you're here.
When you finally figure out you can't control anything, the next step is to simply allow everything (and everyone) to be as it is.
With that knowledge comes infinite peace within.

The best I can suggest is to not fight against the process... simply allow it to happen.
Your only job is to focus on your chosen item until only it and you exist.

There are various examples of open eyed meditations and in particular relating to astral projection, one such example is where you place a beloved object across from you and you then focus completely on that object until you project.  It's no different than any other projection method though as it provides you with a focus, which you focus on to the exclusion of everything else until you project (aka: consciously fall asleep).

Most people actually end up doing this quite by accident, if you've ever fallen asleep while watching tv or reading a book and you find yourself "seeing through your eyelids"... that's an example of an OEM.  Just unaware.

Of course not, but it can help towards awakening something in me that I may take as an ability like healing or something, i'm just tired of this depression that I've lived with since the death of my mother in 1995, looking for a new outlook on life,  or maybe become more intuned to the other side, not just the abilities, i'm not really expecting it to work cause, everthing else in life has failed me in my pursuit so I know this will too.

What Ayahuasca will do is open your eyes to the power you already have within yourself. 
The power of bringing a positive outlook to your life. 

You know the saying "Like attracts like", right?  Well, it's 100% true.
Your post above is laced with so much negativity, it's absolutely no surprise to me you feel the way you do.

I was in a tough point in my life about 6 or 7 years ago, I had lost my job and was extremely fearful of what would happen... but I refused to allow it to get to me and I tried my absolute best to remain positive throughout the whole ordeal.  You have no idea how much it helped and today I find myself in a much better place and position than I was before.

A new outlook on life begins from the inside out. 

Has anyone here used ayahuasca to aid them in anyway related to phasing, going out of body, etc? Shamans have used it for hundreds if not thousands of years to facilitate healing, going out of body, etc. and I think it would be useful towards developing abilities.

http://deoxy.org/ayadef.htm

Nope.  I'll try it one day, but probably no time in the near future.
I'll point out that it would be useless to you for the endevours you're looking at using it for.

Actually Ayahuasca is my last hope at trying to merge with my higher self to gain abilities, though I haven't as of yet figured out how I'm gonna scrounge up the money to go to Peru to try it, I also haven't really heard of anyone gaining no type of profound abilities through it but its my last hope before I give up my pursuit entirely.

I kind of get the feeling that you don't really quite understand what it is you're looking for through your potential Ayahuasca use...
In your case in particular, I think you might get an awakening of sorts, but not one you're hoping for.  It certainly won't give you "abilities"...

Thanks for the reply, your always helpful.

What about when someone reads your aura and says they can tell you things about you?

As Phildan said, they're just reading the "database" in a manner which befits how they want to receive that data.

Thanks for reply, I have a little view point on it.  Mainly I don't believe we ever are truly not conscious our consciousness is always somewhere even if we don't have memory at all.  So looking at it that way there is no shift without consciousness.  Also phasing is a two way street not just a to b but also b back to a, or even the original trip to a(a is here) from wherever we came from.  Within this picture phasing truly is everything.

It would be interesting also to look at the view that it isn't a one time thing such as we are at a and then phase to b but that we are constantly phasing to this reality all the time, and if we change streams we are constantly phasing to that reality.

Ok, let's expand a bit on that...

I believe Frank has it mostly right when he said that this reality is our "home" (or base) reality, to our consciousness that is.  If, while projecting, you were to do nothing, you would naturally return here.  This is why you simply can not get "lost".  You're born into this reality and you are, essentially, part of this reality to which you can temporarily free yourself through projecting.

Now, when I use the term "conscious" as in "consciously shifting your awareness from here to there", I'm saying the part of your consciousness which is in recognition of the "Earth / Human" you.  The "you" which has had the earthly experience of being human with your experiences and memories of such.  Some might refer to that as the egoic you.  I use the concept of how much of that egoic self you recognize as the determination for what kind of experience you're having.  Dream, lucid or astral.

In the way that you're saying it, yes, you never go "unconscious"... it's like your 5 physical senses and how they're ALWAYS processing something, even if you're not aware of them.  Your consciousness is always experiencing something, whether it be something or nothing.

The shift from "b back to a"... isn't really, for most people at least, not a shift made actively or even consciously.  Even I can only fight it off for so long before it inevitably hits and I find myself back in my toasty, warm bed.

I think, perhaps, I might be hitting too many random thoughts at this point... LoL

How far do auras resonate off people/objects and does this depend on experience?

How many layers are there and also does the number of layers you see/size depend on experience?

I read on this site somewhere that only one layer has colors but google shows me that there are 7 layers/colors that relates to the chakras (maybe the colors and the chakras were a visual aid)?

Finally can you describe/send a picture of a realistic representation of an aura

Thanks

All of your questions can be answered with the following statement:  "However you wish to perceive them."
It's entirely up to you as to how you perceive auras.  Some people seem to erroneously think that there is some kind of standard view to these things, but there isn't.  It's all unique to you.

For example, some people might not even see colour... but instead they'll get different thicknesses or different levels of clarity of the surrounding area.  It's all up to you.

Could go one step further and say everything including this reality is phasing.  I assumed from his post he was referring to the Frank Kepple style phasing technique which consists of "phasing" directly using something like a rundown.  It all does blend together.  I think direct and indirect are a little better labels than phasing vs non phasing techniques.

What we can say is that any interaction with the non-physical we have is Phasing, yes.
But not EVERYTHING... "everything" is a little too all encompassing of a term. 

I agree with Lumaza too in which I'd include the word "conscious" in that shift.  Most definitely.
An example of an unconscious shift includes simply falling asleep at night.

Always nice when people come out of the shadows and into the light. 
Welcome aboard.

Oh, I'd love to take credit for all this stuff... but it all existed long before I ever came around, but thank you.
I'm glad you've had successes.