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It might be the methods you are using. Some have the ability to interfere with sleep (because sleep is needed to leave the body). Or, it could also be that you are simply not spending enough time. I don't want to give you an estimate on how long it takes, because then you might do it too short following my estimate.

This might help:

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=193568&highlight=#193568

In my experience the music is indistinct. It couldn't possibly be something that is physically occurring. If you listen closely to the notes you will notice that they don't have the well defined quality of real music, and when you try to concentrate upon them they might fade away.

Whereas, when listening to real music one notices that it is less vague and has a rich quality. In a sense, the music is a dream...but in your experience not quite (because there is an amount of conscious direction).

When waking up in a lucid dream in the astral we might notice how the images fade away like phantoms and the senses sharpen. The music is the same way (even with conscious direction); if one were to become lucid at the instant of hearing subconscious music in the astral and hear real music it would be possible to notice the difference in quality (just as it is possible to notice a difference in regular dreams and lucid experiences).

Once I remember gradually falling asleep and I had the sensation of many spiders on me. They cleared up soon though, and I realized they were just a subconscious hallucination. Some things in the astral are that way. However, there are other experiences which are distinct. With negative entities one can at times feel their negative energy.

Conjurations help to temporarily clear away negative influences (to clear the environment of negativity, even to negate fear which is negative (opposite) to peace).

Well, there is an online school which teaches the fundamental basics of the discovery of the anomaly and its disintegration. There are some other sources, but this school is amongst the most reliable and useful:

www.gnosticweb.com

Most people can not do a certain level of intricate thinking. It doesn't make them stupid--only that the mind is clouded by the subconscious anomaly. With it cleared thinking becomes faster, more coordinated and precise.

I'm not trying to get in the way of anyone trying to heighten their awareness, because that method is very useful. Like you say, Novice, it gets easier with practice. It can require a lot though.

What I've posted is just a method of discovery. For the time being it only has one result (seeing what embodies the subconscious). The manifestation of the subconscious can be discovered through awareness; that requires a lot of time and effort; and on the flip side it won't be possible to see the actual embodiment (only to feel the results of it's manifestation in the body).

Serene meditation is just a method for people to actually witness the subconscious; that way if they apply awareness to become more conscious of its bodily manifestation they will know that it is real.

The entities can't hurt anyone, because they are in the astral. However, in my experience they can ruin astral experiences. For some reason (I'm not exactly sure why) they try to stop some people from exploring the astral. The conjurations will dispel their negativity, and as a result they will either flee or be sent away.

Another thing, people fall asleep and enter the astral every night. Is it better to learn to be conscious of our experiences or to walk around with the usual lack of consciousness? Imagine what a single person gets into every night in the astral plane...what they are associated with.

Then imagine becoming conscious of our nightly travels and controlling whom/what we interact with.

I remember laying in bed once as a kid. Then suddenly a large green hairy armed reached out under my bed and grabbed me. I managed to shake it off and it went back under the bed.

What I didn't know then was that I had fallen asleep and was in another dimension--I was in the astral plane.

For entities such as that there are always conjurations which can be done for protection. Conjurations: as in words which have power over negative influences, including entities:

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2080&highlight=bellilin

It might be because you have the intention to move and even try to move during the transition. Having the intention has the potential to cause slight tension within the muscles. Astral projection is conscious sleep. The muscles must be in an inactive state to fall asleep. Sleep should come naturally, so long as you remain conscious without moving. In my experiences, when remaining still, doing nothing, saying nothing, thinking of nothing, the body falls asleep naturally and the result is the astral plane.

Sorry...it's something that has to be learned by the person who's interested. Anyways, that shows that they are really interested and willing to do what it takes to accomplish it. Whereas if I were to help someone in learning to project they might not be willing to do what it takes to do it, though they have the desire (they are not being sincere with themself).

Astral projection is something that requires sincere practice. It takes a lot of time and effort.

This might help though:

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=193568&highlight=#193568

Also, some modern esoteric schools and foundations teach the existence of the anomaly and practical methods to discover it.

By anomaly I actually mean an entity (an embodiment); there is physically something that is causing the imagery.

I have practiced being more aware and being in the present moment. This is limited because the case with most people is that the embodiment of the subconscious has actually grown stronger in the current era.

Visualization is possible. It is a faculty of the mind. With visualization we can mentally 'see' an image. This method can also be used for traveling to places in the astral.

The anomaly (the unknown subconscious embodiment) can be witnessed through conscious sleep. Then we can feel it within our interior. In the astral we can feel that an actual parasite is manifesting within the body. By doing the meditation one might also become more conscious of the anomaly manifesting within the body in waking experiences. The meditation should also help to temporarily reduce and/or temporarily get rid of hypnogogic hallucinations. To get to the root of things we have to actually see the entity (the cause of the idle nature of one's consciousness, or the foundation upon which we sleep).

The method I mentioned is not for getting rid of the anomaly, but it is for discovering it. The anomaly is also responsible for the inability to remember past lives and the inability to remember dreams that occur at night (astral experiences). Also, it is responsible for the resistance that one experiences when trying to become more aware.

True though; I've applied awareness, but it has limitations. The limitations are due to the magnitude in size of the subconscious embodiment, the limitations of the physical body, and that the anomaly resides in the astral plane. I have managed to be 100% conscious at times, without the anomaly within my astral and physical bodies. This feeling is like being in the causal plane.

Anyone who wishes to discover whether what I'm saying is true or not can try the method, which is called Serene Meditation. It takes days and hours each day, but it's worth the discovery.

I recall being in a room with people. I could hear what someone was saying to me. I could see him. I could even see others who were around in the room. A strange thing that I noticed was that I could not hear the sound of a clock ticking nearby. Whenever I noticed this I immediately heard it.

I have also had experiences in which I have not heard the sound of the refrigerator in the kitchen, or that I have not seen an object that was just to the left in front of my eyes. Whenever I think of these things, however, my attention shifts, so that I then see or hear them.

While sitting and chanting a mantra in the past I have noticed that at points I have stopped saying it and that I am thinking about something else.

While doing astral projection techniques many people notice that they loose consciousness at a point and fall asleep unaware. Or, they might notice that at points they stop doing the method--their attention shifts to random thoughts.

The problem with all of these shifts or losses of attention is a sub-conscious anomaly. The anomaly creates thoughts and pulls one's attention away from an activity or short-circuits (blacks out) one's consciousness. It is also responsible for the hypnogogic imagery which occurs in the process of sleep, and it is responsible for the dreams which follow into the astral plane.

One key to discovering the anomaly behind dreams, daydreams, random thoughts, and hypnogogic hallucinations is conscious retention through sleep (simply falling asleep without loosing consciousness). This is also a key to discovering that we leave the body and enter the astral plane each night upon sleep.

Another key that will in the discovery of the anomaly help is noticing whenever attention has been lost to things. For example, not hearing something, not seeing something, etc..

Well, attention is lost to the physical world. The thing is that we are falling asleep and the conscious attention that we normally have in the physical plane begins to carry over to the astral plane. Then we might hear the whistling/humming of things within the astral body and/or even see things in the astral. Naturally, we fall asleep and end up in the astral plane. Of course, at the time people do not always notice that attention is shifting to the astral body nor do they remember the experience.

To do the meditation you just remain still doing nothing, mentally saying nothing, physically saying nothing, with the eyes closed (so that attention is lost and thoughts are not triggered by the outer senses). Eventually, remaining still like this, the physical body will fall asleep and the thoughts will naturally become silent. Then you will be faced with the astral anomaly and the hypnogogic creations. If you continue to remain still you should be able to get past the hallucinations and/or directly see/feel the anomaly (step 4)...

The anomaly which produces hypnogogic imagery and dreams resides in the astral plane. When remaining still for a long period of time (hours) and doing nothing then it is possible to become more conscious of hypnogogic imagery (dreams). Also, by remaining still the imagery, sounds, etc. begin to still. If bodily stillness is retained for long enough then at times it is possible to fall asleep consciously and witness the anomaly which is behind the hallucinations (because the hallucinations begin to clear away without conscious interference. This is not difficult but it requires days of meditation, spending several hours meditating each day (patience).

Sometimes, when remaining still and preventing step 3. and step 2. thinking (mental analysis) it is still possible to notice extraneous thoughts. Interestingly enough, these thoughts are not merely feelings, or impressions. Rather, the thoughts are the hypnogogic hallucinations/dreams caused by the anomaly.

The anomaly produces subtle impulses in the day, both in the mind and body. When one goes along with the more subtle impulses (as you have already described with mental impulses) the impulses develop and eventually become movements, thoughts, etc..

The reason why the vast majority of humanity sleeps is because of the unawareness of the subtle suggestive impulses given off by this subconscious anomaly. It's fascinating though, that some people have actually noticed certain things (that the hypnogogic imagery does not occur by self-will).

Sometimes when the vision tints it is that the silver cord is pulling us back to our bodies. When this happens it's also possible that stronger efforts have to be made to move. Still, it could be something else...

Have you tried to be more conscious through the senses when possibly having other low-energy lucid dreams? I even find that it helps to be more conscious in waking life.

For example, while you're reading do you hear the sound of the clock ticking near you?...
Do you now hear it? Most likely you do.

Do you see the fan which might be to the left before your eyes, or whatever is there?...
Most likely you now do.

You could even get the feel of your foot on the carpet now because I mentioned it. Being more conscious involves noticing those things which we are not currently.


For example, you might not even hear the sound of the air conditioning unit in the house...

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/index.php?topic=23205.0

This method can be used for learning to exercise that chakra naturally at will. There are other mantras which can be used to stimulate the other chakras, but I didn't post them (once chakral stimulation is learned mantras might be less necessary).

The third eye chakra isn't for astral projection though. There is another chakra for that.

Some dreams are symbolic in nature. There is something to be learned from them. They are not necessarily something that is literally happening, but things are being shown by another being in the astral.

This dream sounds like something of particular value. Do you keep a dream journal?

It sounds like a real negative entity. This might help:

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/archive.php/o_t__t_2080__conjurations-to-repel-negative-entites.html

(Scroll down until you see "bellilin")

sorry...in your head.

Could it have possibly been a regular dream (the kind of thing you're usually thinking about in the day)? Dreams can reflect one's thoughts and things that are experienced in waking life, etc.

With that aside, it could also be something of significance. Maybe there's some symbolic meaning behind it? Do you keep a dream/astral experience journal?

It's that you're trying to relax the muscles. They relax naturally as we fall asleep. Have you ever been sitting in a position for a long time and your leg falls asleep? The body does the same when it's like that. Another problem is that there are certain mental anomalies which cut off one's consciousness before conscious sleep can be experienced.

What will help to reduce the mental activity caused by the anomalies (which are responsible for the images and other hypno-illusions) is to say a mantra:

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=193568#193568

It sounds like you could possibly be in the astral already when having those experiences. In the astral it possible for objects to pass through one another. What you can try to do is push your hand through the wall or a nearby object, like a shelf. If it goes through it means you have unknowingly fallen asleep and ended up on the astral plane.

It's both. As a kid I remember falling asleep, or having near-sleep experiences and not even knowing that I was out of the body or close to being out. More recently, I've been able to fall asleep remaining conscious (not temporarily blacking out), simply doing nothing and not being short-circuited. That is the natural way to astral project.