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Yeah its a shame I cant remeber my dream before it happened, I only remeber small bits.  I do remeber the dream before one of my first OBE's:

I was walking downtown. Sudernly I hear someone calling for me. I turn to the right where I heard the sound comming from, and there I se a shadowy person standing about 200 meters away from me. And then I hear someone is comming up behind me. So I start walking again. I can hear the footsteps behind me comming closer and closer. Finaly he was going to pass me, and at that point I knew he was bad luck(actualy he was'nt), but I kept walking. And then he pased me and kept walking like he was in a rush. Sudernly he turns and push me with great force. In a split second I tried to se his face but it was blured out. anyway the push lifted me off the ground. Then sudernly I woke up and It got all dark and I was falling trough this void. When I got out I was flying downtown. When I got back witch I soon did I was completely paralyzed.

That same morning I had several OBE's. That made me hooked http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile.gif" border=0>

Well, I've had about 9 or 10 OBE's the last two months. And the exit/re-entry-sensations has always been the same. Only diffrent in intesity. I've ended up alot of diffrent places. To end up in my room is relativily rare to me. I usualy end up downtown or somewhere else. I dont know if I've been in the planes. The places I've been to look very real and correct compared to what they are suposed to resemble(if it is all in my mind). The last one that i described was extremly vivid, but there was alot of things that did'nt make sence. Robert Bruce writes about reality fluctuations in houses, and that left-right up-down oriantation might get twisted, because of sudden change of viewpoints. But I dont think that  is the  case with this one.  Hmm tricky...

I was thinkin mayby it was posible to send it directly trough MSN from computer to computer. Do you know if that works? But the easiest would be if someone just shared it trough kazaa or imesh. direct connect have like a 1000 diffrent servers and its hard to find it there. I cant get direct connect to work properly anyways.

I get more and more curious about this file... Does anybody have MSN? If you do can someone send it that way? my sign in name is fURIX and my e-mail is: fURIX@hotmail.com

Yeah I think the exit part and re-entry physical reactions are pretty much the same for all people. They may varie in intesity,  but I think thay aply under some kind of astral/physcal law. Having people comparing their stories like this is a good way of mapping this laws. Having vibrations after waking up must mean that something spesial must have happened like an OBE. And remeber that when you feel those vibrations, you can use them to have more OBE's. Its like the motor is running. All you have to do is release the breaks and floor the pedal. But this can also cause you to forget your recent OBE, so take notes.

Do any of you who have the file use any sharing medias like iMesh, kazaa or winMX? If you do, why not share it that way.

Yes  I know. I have a hotmail account, so cant get it trough e-mail. But if you want to post the file, this is what you do: Go to the download section then click on the red link that says "Got a tweak, MOD or 'Help' file? Post it!" then you get to the upload page. Then you just fill out the forms there and post the file. There is also a help link there if you need it.

I think most my OBE's have been with on an empty stomach. Since almost all of them happens in the morning. Well atleast almost empty. Saturday or Sunday mornings can be used for OBE's. If you dont work on those days, that is. Put your alarm clock on early like 7 or 8. Then wake up drink some water and go to bed. Try lying on your back (wich is important for OBE's). Then you have a pretty god chance at a spontanous OBE. Dont eat any breakfeast before, just drink water.

I would'nt mind a copy of the file. Here: //fURIX@hotmail.com

Or why not upload it on the download section on this site? Then everybody can download it whenever they want

The letters L and S were just examples I used to explain how it worked. If the letter S or L apeared or not I doubt, because when I remember most of the times there were just symbols or letters that I did'nt know, but sometimes there were normal letters I think. Its hard to remember such details. Wish I could get better at that

It REALY bothers me that I cant remember what was in the book http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile_dissapprove.gif" border=0>. I only remeber that I could se moving pictures. At the time I did'nt even know what the akashic records was. If it happens again, Im gonna write it down right after.

They are VERY real. Sometimes so real it acualy scares you. But the curiosity and exitement usually beats the fear. OBE's can differ in quality when it comes to vision and moving around (depends on energy). But I have no problem telling the difference between OBE's and lucid dreams. When I have a lucid dream, I just become aware that Im dreaming and then I can affect the dream with my awake mind. When I have an OBE there is always the projection exit-phase (falling and dark void) that wakes me up and when the exit-phase stops I get my vision and can start exploring. To me OBE's are also more limited.

I have no idea if it was akashic records or not, but it had quite striking similarities to how Robert Bruce describes them. On the other hand it could just be some random vision, and that my mind was just playing tricks on me. But I doubt it since I was able to see the books in such detail and even open and look inside them. It was intresting (at least for me) anyways.

About the flash thing. Bruce talks about the same thing in the AD book. He sais it can be a sign of clairvoyance. Its called the "strobe-effect". When one of your primary energy-centers accumulates a certain amount of enregy, it will strobe its energy upward into higher centers. Thats probably what causes it. I have experienced small flashes, but thats all. And that was during energy work in trance-meditation.

Yeah I have about the same problems as you have...

quote: I assume regardless of how relaxed I get that I still maintain a light trance the entire time (Alpha Waves?) simply because I fail to experience that boxed-in, sensation of falling.

Sometimes I just imagine that my whole bed (or chair) starts to sink slowly but slightly accelerating into the ground. This usualy gives me a slight falling sensation. Then there is the matter of maintaining it. And there comes the breathing issue. It's like you said if you breath kinda heavily, it will soon come out forced, and if natural, it becomes to soft... I find that when the breathing becomes to weak, I usually get very restless and sometimes I'll start yawning.
Its a ballance I guess...

When it comes to relaxing the facial area, I know that can be very difficult I think because of to reasons: (Im not a doctor or anything, but...)
1. Facial muscles. There are hundreds of them(...or at least quite a bunch) , right.
2. Most of them are tiny, compared to the muscles around the rest of your body (like arms and legs).
To locate and feel each and everyone of them, and then to relax them, muscle by muscle seems like and almost impossible task. When the body goes into deep sleep, it shuts off all the muscle's (exept the inner vital ones) so that you wont trash around or start sleepwalking when you are dreaming. I think that includes the facial too. That would at least explain why, sometimes when Im lying on my back and start dozing off, and I can sudernly wake up because Im snorring. Thats means my uvula must be completely ralaxed, and after what I've heard, that is the only way snorring can occur. Perhaps that is the only way all the facial muscles can be fully relaxed too. But you should be able to relax them to some extent in trance too, I would think. But it is alot harder, yes.   ...I know..

Yeah, I agree with Jeff. The R.O.P.E technique never worked for me neither simply because It does'nt feel natural (atleast to me, it dont). I had a technique wich worked wonders. If you have like a doubledecker-bed (not a necessity) you would be lying in the lower bed, then go into a trance for some while and when you felt like you were ready, you would try to imagine and "feel" like being in the upper bed. This used to start the exit-reflex instantly. (although I never acomplished AP because of the unoticable tensioning of muscles.) but I always got the exit-reflex, and heavily too.

(Now, for some reason it does'nt work for me anymore.  So now I have spontanous OBE's by just creating the right conditions and that usualy WORKS)

Anyways, the best thing is to make up your own technique wich contains actions that you are used to and can easily imagine and feel.
Also I think that people (including myself) have a tendancy to break out of the trance when the exit-reflex starts, because they start to think about everything they must do, like: "Oh, somethings happening, now! Ohh... strong vibrations! Im floating... yeah.. Im gonna make it now... gotta keep calm... dont strain my muscles! ...common... just a little bit more, now!! ....hmph... what the hell is this crap, Im back in bed..." I've noticed by myself that often by the "Oh something is happening"-point, the trance has almost already been broken there, because of the alertness. To awoid alertness is a must, but you  must also keep the awareness. Tricky? YES, but I guess thats just the way it is, man

Staying calm is no problem. I always have a small sense of fear when Im in this void, but Im so used to it now, that I just try to enjoy it. And sometimes I just say to my self "Hey! Do you rather wanna get back to your body and find yourself paralazied (like I've done a few times), wich is anoying, boring and alot scarier than this, do you???" and that keeps me going. And when the wierd noise and the falling sensation stops, the environment starts to apear before me and then everything is cool http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile_cool.gif" border=0> and OK http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile_big.gif" border=0>