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1 more quick Q: could this technique of imagining the cellphone work if your body is numb/in paralysis /or on the verge of paralysis/in trance? like once your in trance could you imagine the phone then? it don't have to be when you wake from sleep does it? well?

Where will the DC sniper go? TO HELL!!!! TO ETERNAL DAMNATION!!!! WHERE HIS SOUL WILL BE TORMENTED FOR CENTURIES AND CENTURIES BY SADISTIC DEMONS!!!!! MUHAHHAAHA MUHAHHAAHAHAHHA MUHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAA!!!!!

Nah just kidding. lol I think he will have to relive what he did from the victims perspectives and see the pain he caused onto others like the victims families. Only then can he see the true evil and wrong he did and then have a chance to change himself. Maybe he will be reincarnated into a better person. Just my 2 cents.

K sorry to keep on about this but can someone pls read it its important to me....just 1 person!! lol ty.

Yes pls tell me more. What are these sound frequencies called?

How the hell do you people remember to do it after you just wake up? I always go to bed with the intention of waking up dead still and not moving a cm then imagining the cellphone, but what always happens is I wake up and move before I have a chance to remember and imagine the cellphone in my hand.

I was told for it to work you have to be dead still from the time you wake up.

How you do it?!?!

K this is a long post. Its following in from the earlier post I did before entitled "what do you think of this technique". I did not put the full technique but now seeing now as I got time on my hands I may as well type it word for for from the book. PLS read if you have the time and comment on it and how you think it could work (or could not work) I'm wanting to perfect and try and use this as my main technique to OBE so I need to know how it could work best and I need your guys advice.

I am not typing absolutely all of it as I feel some is not needed, such as a part on what you need to visualise your light body (I visualize myself) but the main process I will be sure to type and the basic principles of the method. Thanks. Anyway here we go:






Astral Projection Method1: General Transfer of consciousness

The whole point of AP is to move the consciousness, or out internal point of view, into another place. an obvious
concept, right? it ought to be, but you'd be surprised ho many people who are trying to learn AP fail tooo put
that knowledge to use in their early attempts. Often the idea behind shifting the orientation of one's perspective
is understood intellectually but, in the emotional struggle to get out of one's body, the shift concept is often
tossed aside in favor of a flow of consciousness technique, sometimes called a lift out technique- a method almost
lways doomed to fail for reasons that will soon become clear.

The general transfer of consciousness method of AP is the successful alternative. It is the foundation for the
methods that will follow in this book. General transfer of consciousness is both a method in its own right and
a stepping stone to other techniques, so even if it fails to capture your imagination on its own, please take the
time to understand its concepts as well as its pros and cons. your understanding opf these principles will continue
to serve you well as you gain experience on the astral plane.

The transfer of consciousness technique allows us to build a seperate vehicle into which we can transfer our astral
selves before setting off to explore the astral plane. Although it is similar to the aforementioned lift out technique,
there is one key distinction.

The lift out method is not one generally taught by experienced occult teachers because it rarely, if ever, works
well. The idea behind lift out is to will the astral self to seprate from the physical by mentally following the
astral self's progress while it floats upward out of the body. What this inevitably does is force the mind to
focus on your physical body's center of gravity ad on a sequence of conscious events rather than on the astral
self and its already completed shift in consciousness.

The general transfer of consciousness method bypasses the difficult areas that focus attention on the physical
body, which inevitably cause the projector difficulty. Instead, attention is directed towards the astral vehicle
placing the focus on the spirit.

Unfortunately, the lift out method is the technique on which most beginners pin their hopes. I tried the lift
out method when I was first attempting to astral project; when I look back on the experience I remember that
the visions in my mind while I was doing this were of the front side of my physical self and not in the astral
self. I kept wanting to see my entire astral double lifting out from my body in one flowing effort, so I kept
my attention on my body alone rather than on making the shift from my physical body to my astral body.

Even though I must have been aware of this problem on some level, I still fully expected that if I could just will
it right, I would feel my astral body make the transition simultaniously from head to toe. Hindsight allows me
to see the flaws in this idea, but at the time I wasted many nights and a lot of energy on something that had
very little chance of working.

If you are a beginner who wants to remain close to the security of your physical body as you learn to project
any many do then then the general transfer of consciousness method requires that your destination (the astral
vehicle) be initially close to your body can be comforting.

However, this fact is also a drawback, since it means that your desire to project must be exceptionally
strong. Otherwise, you may not be able to come up with the level of emotional connection to your destination
that is necessary in order to interest the astral self in going there. Stepping outside of your physical
shell just to float around and see it lying there is not very exiting for your emotional self, so you may
have to give it some mental pep talks to get it jump started. Despite this single draw back, the general
transfer of consciousness method of AP remains very popualr and many occultists teach it under a variety of names.

(The next part talked about creating an astral vehicle, and visualizing what it would look like before
you attempt to enter it. I will leave it out as it veers off the main topic a little. In my case I would
visualize my own self only in a light form to keep things basic.)



General Transfer of Consciousness Process

To begin working with this method get comfortable and be sure you can maintain this position for upto an hour.
If not, make changes now. If you make changes later, you may unintentionally slip out of your altered state
or break your flow of visualization in a disruptive way.

When you are sure you are comfortable, take deep breaths and begin to release negative tension, also release any
negative thoughts, feelings, or intentions from your mind.

Continue to breathe slowly making sure each part of your physical self is fully relaxed. When you feel you are
fully relaxed and are feeling peaceful, begin to use whatever method you have chosen to attain an altered state of
consciousness . This can be counting, breathing, using a mantra , etc. Don't worry about how deep into the altered state
you are able to go at this point. AP does not require an ultra deep state, and many experienced practitioners swear the
lighter levels are the best. Just go to where it is most natural for you to go at this time. With time and practice your
altered state will come to you easier and faster., and they will naturally deepen. For now, take as much time as you need.

When you feel you are where you need to be mentally, you are ready to begin building your body of light. You should
already have a clear picture of the form you wish it to take. A few feet away from your physical body, imagine this body
of light starting to take shape.

Project into it not only your own mental energy, but also energy that you draw from either the earth beneath you or
the sky above. This is an old occult trick. you never deplete your own energy stores when undertaking any occult endevour
but rely instead on those found in nature- in mother earth and the eternal sky above you to help fashion your desire. To do this
just make a mental connection with the source that you wish to draw from, ad then visualize a stream of energy moving from
it into the object (such as the body of light) that you are charging. Don't concern yourself with obstructions" like floors and ceilings

By this point in your efforts, time will have ceased to have any meaning for you; all time references made in the instructions
beyond this point are guidelines only. For example, when i use the body of light method, I usually take what I think is about 5 minutes
to properly fashion this vehicle. In "real" time I have no idea how long it takes. As a beginner you will probably
need anywhere from ten to twenty minutes to fully charge and visualize your astral vehicle.

Once the body of light is formed in a manner that is pleasing and comfortable to you, and it feels solid and stable, mentally charge
it with its duty. This ancient practice of assigning purpouse to the body of light is called words of power. It is an affirmation
that we are taking responsibility for it throughout the duration of its existence. Additionally, we must dismantle it when its
purpouse has been served. Tell your body of light what it is to do for you by carefully choosing your words and then mentally
directing them to the body of light. Make these instructions simple and clear. Don't be tempted to use flowery language
- it can be misinterpreted- and be sure to back up your words with clear visualizations of what you expect. Clear thoughts
such as those found in visualizations mean you are using symbolic language, and this is the language best understood on the astral plane.
In this instance the assignment for the body of light would be to provide a vehicle for astral exploration, after which it
would return safely to your starting place.

You are now ready to transfer your consciousness into this body of light, which is where your mind conditioning exercizes (chapter 3)
are useful. Shift your perception from your physical body into the body of light. Don't try to follow it out of your body step by step
like in the always fallable lift-out method. This can only lead to an over-emphasis on the body and not on the astral
consciousness. As you feel your consciousness is getting the idea of being elsewhere, allow it to shift itself into the body
of light. Once you are able to see your surroundings from the body of lights perspective, you will know you are
successful.

It may take several attempts before you can sustain this sensation of your consciousness being somewhere else.
Test your transfer of consciousness by looking out at your surroundings every few minutes to see from whose point
of view they are being seen, your physical body's or the body of light's. If this is your first attempt at projecting,
you may not be able to hold your consciousness in the body of light for long. Don't let this frustrate you. Just keep practicing
getting your consciousness shifted into the body of light and keeping it there for as long as possible. At first don't try to move away from the spot where your body of light has been formed. Just allow your consciousness to look around the immediate area from ya stationary position. until you are used to having your consciousness elsewhere, moving it around will likely only send you right
back to yourself and you'll have to begin all over again.



Tips and suggestions for the General Transfer of Consciousness Method

Even if you eventually discover other methods of astral projection that work better for you, I heartily
recommend that, as a beginner, you spend some time practicing with the general transfer of consciousness
into a body of light. This technique will not only impress on you the full concept of shifting consciousness
but it is a good experience for timid astral travelers who want no more at first than to just float around
the room in which they are reposing and reassure themselves they are really going to be alright. through this
experimentation you will gain important skills and astral self confidence.

Ty for the tip. 

Dear Kurt,

yes it sounds amazing.

Spirit swapping seems to become more frequent.

I've had a good internet friend who all of a sudden lost all interest and broke contact for no reason. Among the last things he said was "I didn't feel like talking".


Now that you mentioned government, it should be noted that the ruling elite (gov. military & media incl.) commonly use a mind-control technique, by which they create multiple personalities in their slaves or workers of classified areas usually with by the use of trauma. This is how the ruling elite keep almost perfect secrecy. When a slave or a worker enters a confidential zone as personality A) and leaves later as personality B) he will not remember what he was, did or where he was as personality A).
Unlike "mentally ill people" these controlled ones have their personalities in order and a specific personality is triggered by the action of their handlers, simply a cellphone call with a specific voice or sound frequency can trigger the desired personality in the human.

Because multiple personalities are not aware of each other and they are not spirit-entities I believe they can be mistaken for spirit posessions or spirit-swaps.
People should be aware of this.

peace

So this can be explained psychologically yes? I never really thought people getting "posessed" ,whilst in the astral, were real anyway.

Theres alot more details but would take too long to type it all. It was from the book: Astral projection for beginners by Edain McCoy. It  features 6 main techniques to induce an OBE and that one was the first one, he referrs to it as Sorry I don't have any links to the whole technique. In the book he refers to this method as the foundation method for the ones that will follow in the book and its method in its own right.

If you happen to have the book then check it out on page 91.

This is a technique I heard to be the basic of alo't of techniques. Anyone know of it? its called the general transfer of consciousness technique. It goes like this (very basically):

Keep still and relax muscles and makes sure you are in a comfortable position you will not move in for upto an hour.

take deep breaths and release all negative emotions

obtain an altered state of consciousness by a mantra or breathing or counting

build your body of light

project into it mental energy

profect into it its duty

transfer your consciousness into it.


Thats basically it. Does anyone use this particular method? is it successful? anyone know more on the part on obtaining an altered state of consciousness. I aim to try it but am not sure what they mean by that part exackly. Any info would be appreciated.

AAAAAHHHH!!!!! I tried this but when I always wake I from sleep I never remember to lie still and imagine the cellular phone. So what happens always is I wake up and move around then remember the technique too late lol this sucks any advice anyone?

I think if it was as easy as KurtyKurt explains, there would be people manipulating time left right and centre.

Yea... I'm afraid I was paid a visit by a couple of agents and they 'recommended' that I take down the schematics I had posted.

So who were these agents and what exackly did they say? did they warn/threaten you in a polite way? how did they even find out about your project? if you ask me its unlikely they'd find it on here.

That galaxy storm dude.

Hmmm and if it has happened then I doubt anyone could really ever come to a conclusion as to why. It would be under unsolved murders or death by mysterious circumstances,

K I got 2 Q's about this:

1. If killing someone during A Projection is possible then how would it be achieved? would it be like
a poltergeist like where they can throw large heavy object at someone enough to kill them or?!?!?!

2. If using astral projection to kill someone was possible, would the government not had utilized this ability long ago?!?! Take a political target such as Saddam. Had the government been able to do this via "special agent astral travelers" or whatever then i'm sure Saddam or other people the Government have wanted out of the way would have been gone long ago.

We all know the Government have messed around with things such as Remote viewing and such so if it was possible it should've been done by now. Just my thoughts.

Sry to answer so late. Thx by the way

What do I suppose contributed to me having one? I believe it was that I had pretty much been bigtime revising into the subject all day so I guess it was fixed hard on my mind to have one.

I'm still amazed how conscious I was.

  Yey! I think I had an OBE, either that or a VERY clear and real dream.

I "woke up" and went to the bathroom. I don't know why but while I was ummm....getting the equipment ready (grin) I looked on my watch on my other hand which said 5.00am. Then I don't really know why or remember but I was prompted back (I don't recall how or why) but do recall I woke up for real what seemed like a few seconds after. I looked at my watch then and it said 2.23am!! VERY strange yet cool!!! I am still pretty amazed at how conscious I was and something tells me had I looked back at my bed as I got up to go to the bathroom, I would have seen my physical body lying there. I woulda most likely had freaked out there and then and my experience would have been shortened.

What you people reckon?

so you saying if one wants to spy on political targets astrally you would be intercepted by "astral agents" I find that hard to believe. Besides what would really be stopping them stopping you getting to the president I mean it isnt like they could astral shoot you.

What? how do you know its boring?!?!

Anyone here ever gone astral then been given specific information by entities?perhaps something relevant to the future or something going on in your life at the time.

I do stress specific clear information as I am aware often things said by spirits/entities may be distorted and not make sense but if there is any specific valid info you were told and then were able to vertify it or confirm it then pls tell about the info you were given and what happened for you to confirm it. Thx.

Can you interact with "physical" objects whilst in the astral? to give an official answer it would be YES but its VERY VERY hard from what I have researched on it. I dont think the average astral projecter can do it, I think to do something like that you would have to be VERY mastered and experienced at Astral projection and even then its not easy. As far as doing it whilst time travelling astrally I'm sure many would agree with me here that its a no. If one could then obviously it would disrupt the timeline but I might be wrong on this.

I dont know the website that has the "Astral projection hole" as you say but I was hoping you could tell me about it.

Do any of you people know anything about astral time travel?

Pls tell me how it works and what its really about and the sensations etc.

Thx