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Wow wisp, you actually replied that seriously.
I thought he was joking.
Although now that you've offered an explanation, it seems to make quite a lot of sense...  []

Well KP, sorry to that I don't have enough experience or know-how to be of any help whatsoever.
Just wanted to say, hope you get better soon.  [|)]

[SiN]

I was wondering about KP's response. Did you actually get that deja vu feeling when that happened?

More importantly, since you do remember where and when it happened before, does that then actually count as a deja vu experience? What I'm getting at is, perhap there has been stuff happening (and maybe we've even heard about them), that could clearly explain and demonstrate what's going on during a deja vu. But maybe it's just that we don't recognize these events as being a deja vu experience?  []

SiN
I'm not sure I can understand having 3-4 times of the same deja vu... Cos that would mean that you're actually the exact same thing 3-4 times?? Are you sure you're not just remembering something like it that happened before? What exactly were you doing for/during those repeating deja vus?

Psypunk
[:O] If there were a movie like that, I'd definitely go watch it, hehehe...

Mirador
How do you know there's not much we do with it if we don't even know for sure what it is?  [}:)]

bomohwkl
Sheesh, is there anything that book doesn't talk about. Sigh, I've yet to read it. My friend finished it in two days, I on the other hand have a much shorter attention span.  [|)]
Plus, I seem to get a mysterious headache whenever I feel like reading it, hehehe...

Hmm......interesting analogy/idea there.
But it makes me wonder, the 'they' that exists after the eight years...

Did 'they' originally exist? As a part of the two people?

Or are 'they' just artifacts, distorted versions of the original people that were created as a result of the eight years in isolation?

Thanks for the link!  []

Btw, have you looked at this thread?
http://www.astraldynamics.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3879&whichpage=1

By the way, what is the site that you found helpful?
Could you post the link?  []

Anyway, the way I do it is quite similar to what Tom described, except I don't use any imagery. I remember it was very hard especially when I started out, stuff just comes into your head, especially when you don't them to!  []
But just discard all the thoughts that are pointless. Sometimes you might have a thought that resurfaces after you push it away (e.g. something important you have to do tomorrow), in that case, just spend some time to quickly deal with the issue/make a decision, then you can move on.

Anyway, I've heard of two ways that can help you cut down on the amount of mental junk in your surface mind. One was the way mentioned in Astral Dynamics, whenever a thought comes up, just cut it off halfway (or earlier). Eventually you'll be able to sense them, and block off the thoughts before they form in your mind. (No, I'm not at that stage yet [|)] )
Another way I read from some post on this forum. You just insert a deliberate pause between every thought you get. Then you gradually increase the length of this pause, until you are no longer thinking of anything.

Hope that helps.

Say powder, since you're interested in this topic, AND you're in programming, why don't you consider taking a course in cognitive science?
It deals with stuff like how your mind work and patterns of memory, etc. I only took an intro course in that, so I can't answer your question though.  []
But anyway, even if it doesn't give you an answer to your question, I'm sure you'd find the subject interesting.  []

Anyway, I think the way memory works is by formation of connections between neurons, and also of the frequency and firing patterns between neurons.
So I personally don't think our brain is linear.

I thought of this when I read jilola's reply.
Have you ever heard of someone (or yourself) say "Wouldn't it be great if I were a dog?" You know, because we think a dog's life is easy and fun, no stress.

What if that were the case, that (at least some) dogs are humans who chose to reincarnate as a dog?  []

Oh yeah, a related thing.
In one of the Chinese belief systems (I don't know it's name), humans continuously reincarnate until they achieve enlightment, and bad/evil people are forced to reincarnate as animals.

Here's another reason I don't think it's recalling previous at-the-time precognitive dreams. Related to this topic:
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3989

That happens quite often with me as well, maybe once a month. And there have been times where I've recalled dreams from more than 3 weeks ago! And the two experiences, delayed dream recall and deja vu, definitely feel very different. []

Being a biochemistry student, I just can't really accept the brain stumble explanation. I've tried thinking of it, but somehow it just doesn't fit. I mean, if such a problem were possible with the brain, certainly there'd be some neurological/psychological dysorder that is related to this, right? But I haven't ever heard of any.

Anyway, I am now somewhat convinced that deja vu is due to reintegration of some sort (it feels right). But the thing is, I can't figure why... [xx(]

quote:Originally posted by Fat_Turkey

....I don't get it....


lol[]

-FT

My interpretation of that phrase is that if you know in your heart/soul that God exists (i.e. have faith), then you can see that God exists even without seeing him. (i.e. have all the proof that you'll need of his existence)

Wow.

So true.

And yet I do not know God within.  : (

[cainam_nazier]

cainam_nazier

quote:Originally posted by cainam_nazier


Wether you are aware of all the details or not your brain records ALL information it receives on a 24/7/365 schedual.  Basically it never stops.  You may not always be able to consiously access that information but it it there.

Yeah, i remember there's this syndrome-like thingie that would make a person remember every single detail about everything that's happened in their life, and they never forget anything. I guess that's plain proof that what you're saying is correct.
As for the brain-stumble thing... is this supposed to be a physical thing? Or a metaphysical thing?

quote:Most will say that every one, every where, projects every night.  That's one arguement any way.

Yeah, I agree with that, just kinda forgot, hehehe......

quote:next time it happens try letting yourself slip into it.  Let go as you would with projection attempts.  See what happens.

Yeah, I already asked my friend to try that.
If you've read sora's post above, her deja vu just went on and on... I just don't think you're brain would be that screwed up... []


Parmenion
Maybe why you're getting more deja vus depends on what you think they are...
For example, if you believe they are signposts, then it means you're getting more signals that you're on the right track. If you believe they're something else, then it will mean something different...

lateralus897

quote:are you saying a projection that we are unaware of has happened during a deja vu? Or maybe your astral body has wandered down into the rtz and just wandered into the area you are currently occupying?

Don't you have to physically super-relaxed to get any kind of projection? You know, that's the point of the relaxation and trance exercises, right?

[Child of the Forest]

Child of the Forest
Thanks for your response! Btw, who is Sylvia Browne? []
Anyway, I think that explanation seems quite plausible (it fits with my current idea of life/afterlife), but you'd really think I might've chosen some more significant 'signposts', like buying a car, picking a major, getting a job... []

I haven't had any dream deja vus. In fact, I don't have too much going on with my dreams, other than them being really crisp and clear (like watching a DVD movie). The most I've gotten are a few spontaneous but short (~10 second) lucid dreams, a few significant dreams (that make me think about my current life/situation), and tons and tons of false awakenings (which get kinda annoying [|)]). I think I had a dream with three false awakenings in it. Man, that was so confusing.
I also found that I could access memory of my dreams while still dreaming. For example, during one lucid dream (the strongest one), I could retrace my path I took earlier to leave this university kind of place (but woke up soon after that).
And there was one time I was in a dream (half-lucid), and I could feel myself sleeping on bed! Wow, I guess I do have a lot going on in my dreams... []

sora
Hahaha... thanks for sharing your experience! That actually sounds a little scary not being able to get rid of a deja vu feeling. But at least it's not something bad happening (and feeling that it's happened before)... []
Anyway, I think the different dates really would actually be an indication that it may be from a dream experience, as cainam_nazier explained.

cainam_nazier
The 'brain stumble/download problem' would not explain how you'd be able to predict that something would happen based on your deja vu experience...
Btw, I'm not sure I understand what you mean by 'it creates download problems with the memory.' Do you mean during the process of storing memory of what is currently happening? But still, even if you were to have problems, I don't see why storing memory for an insignificant event would have higher mental 'process priority' than what is currently going on in your life.

re: mind split
WOW! I mean... I don't know what to say... After you think about it, that actually seems really possible. It makes a lot of sense that your mind would be wandering, especially when you're doing unspectacular or monotonous/repetitive stuff.
But isn't it odd that you'd get such a mind split (of this magnitude) so often? I mean, to daydream and such is normal, but to have your conciousness divided so much that you'd get an OBE integration-type thing going on (while awake!)?
I guess it's possible, but my friend doesn't do OBE or energy stuff (and doesn't recall having any such experiences), and yet he gets deja vu twice a week! Wow... I guess I have to think about this for a while...

Hi holizm,

I just had some questions about that test of yours. First of all, a general question. Umm, for example, if I went to your house, and you told me there's someone renting your basement, and you asked to use my intuition to guess who it is. Now, I'd kinda understand how that might work.
But in this case, it's just through a website. How would I... umm, 'establish a connection' with the intended target? Would I have to read the webmaster's mind to see who he's thinking of, then try and figure out more about the target? [?]

*spoiler alert* [:O]
Secondly, a more specific question. I've try the test, and was wondering about the 'answer' to the first target. Now, the description only specified the time and the city (which is a very broad description). In such a case, how do you determine what constitutes a hit? For example, I noticed that stuff like 'birds singing' in other people's results was highlighted in red. Personally, this is not something I would've thought about if you asked me to imagine about that city in the future.
Plus, how would you know I'm not just thinking about a different PART of the city in future? Or about a different possible future? []

[fredhedd]

fredhedd
"i thought i already told you this?"  []  Hahahaha! Nice one!
Although, I personally don't agree with this type of explanation, since it always comes to the point of "If everything's already been done before, what's the point of doing it again?" [xx(]


PeacefulWarrior
Having dreams come true sounds really cool! [8D]
But as for deja vus, what would be the point of having them in the the first place? You don't get that feeling until the event is already happening, so it's not like you can change anything...

Plus, almost all of the times I get a deja vu, it's for some 'ordinary' event. Like seeing some guy that I don't know walking down the street. I mean, I don't see any prophetic value in knowing about that... []

[know]

Oh yes, forgot to mention my own experiences. [|)]

Most of time, when it happens, it just get feeling (or know) that this particular event has happened before.
Not something like it, not something I remember from memory, not something I remember from dreams (I know since I can remember my dreams when I wake up), but this exact thing.
They happen anywhere at anytime, but most of the time it includes me reading or watching something, or talking to someone.
About 60% of the time, the feeling is really strong and lasts 5-10 seconds; and ~25% of the time, the feeling is pretty weak and lasts only 2-3 seconds. Sometimes, though rarely, it's strong enough that I can actually accurately predict what is going to happen next. For example, I'd know that that guy is going to say a particular sentence...

Ah yes, and here are the statistics for occurences I got from asking my friends:
1 - twice a week      <-- my close friend, and he's not exaggerating
2 - twice a month     <-- I'm in this group
1 - 10 a year
1 - 2-3 a year
2 - Never happened before