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hey panabelle..............god bless you.
(that was a sneeze right?)

thanks everyone.............im still working on it.

dude..........you have issues.

no leaf clover,

all these are good points. i did come off sounding like this was the answer to god. i didnt mean to. i just meant to imply that the severe complexity of everything points more to the possibility of god than to the possibility that this all happened by a random fluke.


and i do happen to believe in the big bang. god had to make it happen somehow.lol[]

warlockyoshi,

you are one of those people that close their minds down too quickly.

have you ever thought about how fast you are traveling as you sit there in that chair without any influence from anywhere? we might be traveling at the speed of light and we dont even know it.

think about it. the earth is spinning... thats 1 speed to ponder
the earth is circling the sun............thats 2 speeds
our solar system is circling in the galaxy...thats three
our galaxy is spinning around in the universe...thats four
and our universe is spinning around something...thats five
(we just dont know what yet)


we have no idea how fast we are expanding away from the core of the big bang. and we are probably traveling in other directions and speeds i havent thought of yet.


this is why i think teleportation is not possible. at any given time the time/space coordinates are having to be factored in from many different sources. i think its too hard to pinpoint down.

if anyone couldnt guess my name is short for star wars guru. not real original but i love the star wars universe.


can anyone tell me who the real hero of all the movies is?

warlockyoshi you have not even tried to research the subject of whether or not there is a god. i can tell from some of the things you post. you want your opinion on the matter to be so true that it is blinding you to some of the obvious answers.

i agree that the bible has many contradictions. these came about from the christians trying to wrap the other pagen religions into their own. for example christmas is celebrated as the birth of christ but the early christians just made that his "birthday" to pull the worshipors of the winter solstas into their agenda.

the early christians realized that to try and overpower the pagens and force them to believe in their ways was going to be near impossible. but to incorporate some of the pagen beliefs into the christian religion while not actually calling it that, would bring more people into the "fold".

anyway, to say there is no god is wrong!!!! im sorry but to believe in the big bang theory is dumb. something doesnt come from nothing!!!!you sound like a science man, even you should know this. the statues and museum displays show us the 10,000 bones they have found that fit the evolution THEORY. what they dont show us is the 1,000,000 bones that dont fit the theory behind the museum walls.

scientists still cant explain why certain cells in the human embryo go off to be brain cells and others go off to be liver cells and others go off to be finger nail cells. they have cracked the dna codes but all that did was explain a tiny fragment of whats going on. we hear about and look at a single cell organism and think its the simplest and most basic thing in the living world. but scientists are now starting tio discover that those same single cell organisms are more complicated than our most advanced computer on the planet. we just cant see on a small enough level yet to see whats going on inside it. we say single cell, but are actually wrong. it is made up of millions of things that we cant fathom yet.
we all think of the infinately big but we all forget about the infinately small. just because we are to arrogant to recognize the small we think we know it all and have most of the answers.

the infinately small is where we find GOD, or the CREATOR, or whatever one wants to call it. there is a driving force or controlling force behind all the small that makes up all the big stuff we can be a part of and appreciate.

here is something to thing about,  when Jesus was around he never once said this is THE religion of the planet and this is the way to god. he led by example and slight guidance of his followers. when they came to him with questions expecting very specific answers, Jesus always replied with a parable (story) to get the followers to think for themselves.

it was his apostles who wound up turning the teachings OF Jesus into a teaching ABOUT Jesus.

Jesus never said what to call themselves, what rituals to perform, or when to bow, or when to kneel, etc. you get the point.

or at least what i think the point was.........be a good person to others, help out when you can, and basically dont be a selfish, ignorant jerk.


you know.....DO UNTO OTHERS AS YOU WOULD HAVE THEM DO UNTO YOU.

i think one of the best movies about what the afterlife might be like is the movie "What Dreams May Come"> it has Robin Williams in it but dont let that throw you off. it is a really great movie.

satanism.............are you for real?

whats wrong with you guys?

i am teetering on the edge of belief in god myself, but satanism as a replacement?

i looked at the satanic bible and it just looked like one big selfish fest to me. do what pleases you, do what you want, who is anyone else to tell you what to do to please yourself.

what kind of mindf*** crap is that?

i have looked into many things to search for god myself. i have read histories, Archeological evidence, scientific proof, etc.  these are the kind of things one needs to do when they are feeling left out of the big picture. you dont just stand there and say these things sound like crap, i think ill try something else like satanism.

be intelligent, be smart about your answers. if you dont want to believe in god, thats fine and also your choice, but at least research the subject. you guys are the ones putting down christians for not being able to explain who or what god is. i myself also think they need to study up on their own convictions so they can give plausible answers to the atheists when they come along. too many people go to church and just listen to the man up front tell them all about it, and then they make those things their beliefs. what if that guy up front has it all wrong? they are all skrewed thats what.


i apologize for sounding like a better than you asswipe. but you guys should do some research on some of these things. it would be a real eye opener. it might interest you all to know that a lot of scientific research is starting to lead right back to the probability of a "controlling intelligent force" behind the workings of things.

again i apologize, but satanism?

i agree..............how do you turn it on in the first place?


i would love to be able to do this.


how do i work on developing this or any other metapsycical ability?

i dont know about this

i have tried to share this with various people close to me and sure enough i get alot of funny looks. i immediately try to pull the people in on my experimental idea of the obe and they all say sure, but i can tell they are just humoring me.  in my experiments i try to visit these same people and see what they are wearing for the day. i then call them later to see how acurate i was. i think they are felling i am losing it. so i dont know if sharing this is a good idea until i can get some definate control and positive results first.


then i will change their worlds.

thanks frank,

but i do seem to have the same level of consciousness except for direct focus. i have had about 7 lucid dreams of flying. i swear it feels like i leave my body behind because i am aware of being able to defy the laws of pysics. i immediately try to fly and sure enough i do. but i get so wrapped up in the awsome feeling that i forget to do the things that i was planning to do. i always try to get "scientific proof that i am out of body, like, i visit my wife to see what she is wearing. then when i wake i will call her to see how accurate i was. i have only been able to focus once to do this though. and i was wrong on the clothes thing. but i did fly to my house. actually i flew half way there and then thought about the instant travel thing and i did that. and sure enough i was there.

the funny thing though is the entire time i was in my "home" i kept feeling these intense falling sensations, even though i was in a standing position.i didnt fall downward, but it felt like i was being pulled backward from the way i was facing. it felt like i was falling into another place. i am still stuck on some of my old belief systems and i thought i was being pulled into hell. i know this sounds ridiculus, but thats what was going through my head at the time.

are these kind of sensations normal for my beginning efforts?

i read somewhere that you cant instantly travel in the real time plane. is this true?

i also heard that the falling sensations are the very beginning of separation from your psysical body. if this is so, should i try to give in more to the feeling?

thanks for everyones input by the way.
Frank you seem to have a bunch of knoweledge on these things, anymore input?

i have read part of the treatise on the nature of the universe, and i highly reccommend it to you. these are the things it talks about in there. are we a pysical universe that created mind to be in it, or are we all mind and we created the pysical universe to express it?

thank you terry b,

yeah thats some good advice. i am going to try to focus on controlling the vibrations. maybe sending them to another part of my body, or trying to control the intensity. i am an electrician by trade and the vibrations feel like i am being electrocuted. i suspect this is giving me a natural barrier to just giving in to the feeling. maybe in the back of my mind i am still equating giving in to the vibrations as giving in to death. but again thank you, and i am going to work with them more.


unless anyone has a quick fix to the intensity level thing? how can i tone them down a notch or five?

hey count me in. i am new to this so bear with me.

i do have his book and have read about the mind split.

maybe i am confused...... i thought the vibrations were a lead up to the obe. i didnt think i could be having an obe while they are affecting my body.i thought they would stop when i separated.

but thank you for helping me focus. i will try to concentrate on the possiblility of being in two places at once and try to shift my focus to my other (astral) self.


by the way tisha, that was really cool with your rv stuff under another heading. do you have any books that are really good at teaching this or do you have to pretty much have an inborn ability at it? because i have to admit, those were pretty impressive results.

thanks for the input tisha


i am seriously trying to achieve an obe. i have had an experience that i thought was an obe but i was wrong on some of my details when i tried to verify it. i try to visit someone i know and see what they are wearing and then later call them to see if i was right. is this kind of detail something i should be accurate on? the people were there but they were also doing different things than i saw. i have to admit, i am starting to feel like a fool when i call these different people. they probably think i am nuts.

any suggestions?

this is a great site for information. the books you can buy off of this site are some of the best i have ever read on this subject. most books out there are on peoples experiences with obe. they dont get into techniques on how to do it. so i highly suggest to get "Astral Dynamics" by Robert Bruce. this would be a great place to start.

hey im in for a week three. i missed the first two because i have not been exploring this site like i should be.

i feel im on the verge of separation but some inner anxieties are holding me back.

my last four tries at an obe wound up in lucid dreams.(i think) i could control my self and couldnt get over flying. thats all i seemed to be able to focus on.

i am trying to achieve scientific results by visiting someone far away from me and being able to tell them what they are wearing. my last attempt worked for my location result but i was wrong on the clothes. is this kind of detail possible during an obe?

vetri70,

 relaxing and patience seem to be the key. i am still working on my first projection and i realize that i am way to impatient. i try to get relaxed as quickly as possible so i can try to project. i think that i am fighting myself. again, try working more on meditating and relaxing first.

heh heh......thats so true going slow

hey............what happened?  


we're still here.



damn.

i would round up my best friend and respective families and head for the most remote place i can find. me and my friend actually have a plan in mind if society were to break down as we know it.

i think this is wise for all people to have. think about it.........if there was a terrorist attack or a severe natural disaster to happen in the middle of a work day, does anyone have a plan on how to meet up with your family if comminunications are down?its like having a fire escape plan in your house. if the disaster happened around your neighborhood you should have another meeting place for your family.

and yes i was one of the weirdoes who had stuff stocked up in the basement when the y2k thing was a scare. my motto is its better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.

i think ill add that to my signature.

id make peace with everyone. there is no time for hate. i dont know wether i believe in the christian beliefs anymore but just in case of the possibility of going to hell i would definately make peace with god.


oh and i would definately tell my boss to take this job and shove it!