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Hey everybody. I hope all is well! Hey i had a question... I went ahead and posted this in the dreams section because well you will see.

I have heard so many stories of the afterlife and what happens but one really stands out to me. I HOPE it's not the case. I guess the only way I will know is when I die... and when i get better at obe. Robert Bruce, whos back astral dynamics is really awesome...! said recently that when someone dies if they basically haven't mastered meditation or became like the dalai lama and are REALLY advanced you don't even have much choice in the afterlife. You die and very quickly it fades into dream mode... and without choice you just "automatically" come back to earth. This really shocked me because even tom campbell says you make choices in the afterlife. I think RB was saying was you lose awareness very quick after death and go into the "dream realms" I don't wanna put words in his mouth but on multiple occasions I have heard him say this. I can kinda see this maybe? He relates it to when people have an OBE they can only hold it for 5 mins if that.... (I can only hold it to minute)... and he says death is the ultimate obe and if you can't hold your awareness and have trouble controlling your thoughts you just start dreaming and come back to earth automatically. Boy I hope this isn't the case... I would think I have choices in the non physical too... and since I would no longer have this body maybe it would be easier to be present over there like it is here because that would be our primary reality... What do you think? It sounds like tom campbell says the exact opposite as does william buhlman... which is a little more comforting to me! If RB is right then pretty much all of humanity is coming back here over and over until they can master meditation and their thoughts. That's a lot of people coming back here over and over and over without even a choice :/

That being said I do see how this experience over time can fade into a dream because you will be living other lives etc and it wont matter much anymore... But you can just take you awesome experinces you had here with you and hold on to them forever in your spirit or your IUOC as tom calls it. I see it as more of a letting go.... I remember dreams I had when I was 4 years old so..... lol

Perhaps they are helping you by letting you work through whatever issues you need to work through. It's important you get a handle on yourself and know your exact needs before asking for help. So for now they are likely just letting you vent, when you get tired of that you'll maybe open your mind a bit to possibilities you haven't even thought of yet. You seem to want straight and direct help but rather than pinpoint exactly what you need you're keeping it general which is more a rant than a request for help. See what I mean?

I definitely see what you're saying nameless. I told them all to go pound sand and called them every name in the book out of frustration so I'd be shocked if they wanna help me at this point

I'm trying to get into the psychic medium business and every mentor I see says I need to work with my "guides" trouble is I have tried contacting them and learning who they are for four years now. I ask them to please help me with my dreams because I usually have nightmares and they don't help with Jack... I'd love to think I have other beings helping me but even in meditation or out of body.... I've been out of body and asked to see them and I get nothing. Do I need guides to be a psychic medium? It seems better if I just asked source to give me help when I need it.... these mentors I have seen said I have a guide for each area in my life... my relationships guide... my career guide... and like 5 other things. I think she even said my financial guide.... or something. This sounds very new age. She says everyone has guides. Most people on this planet never even wake up to the fact they are a spiritual being so that sounds horrible to me. Seems like most guides would just be standing there bored. Because they can't help unless someone asks... and quite honestly mine don't seem to care. I feel like working with my spirit or higher self would be better. Are guides just my higher self taking different forms? This lady I talked to said when she does readings her spirit guides stand behind her and then the spirit guides of that person stand behind them. Another thing that bothered me is she said "your spirit guides have now given you permission to do this" that really bothers me because I don't need permission.... that's like telling me what to do.

Something about the whole guide thing just bothers me but everyone with a really open third eye says they talk to them and see them etc... I just said out loud I fire my guides... and I went on a huge rant of how sucky they are at helping me. This lady said to ask them to help me with my nightmares and they never do. I pray for 20 mins sometimes and it don't do squat. It's really starting to irritate me. I feel bad because I called them a bunch of names and told them to f****** off. Pardon my language. It's just frustrating they never help me. My physical cat I have here in this life is a better friend and gives me more help then my "guides" if I even have them in the first place. She just said it would be impossible to do readings if I don't have help from spirit... and I probably just blew it because I said out loud I fired them. They're useless to me they never help me ever. Lately I been asking source to send me help and that's all I do. I feel that's a much better way.

Are guides even real or am I wasting my time?

Some of these replies are very sad to me... but I do get it. I think as tom Campbell puts it source will play out one of your deceased loved ones but I honestly do think they are still around maybe just in a different form living another life and you can interact with their IUOC or higher self... which will probably be very different but at least you would know it's the being you a knew in this life plus however many other god only knows how many lives it's had... my grandpa died in 2009 and he always hangs out around me helping me in this life and I just recently saw him in my dream smiling in the background assuring (felt like assurance he was there for me in hard times...) I've heard people say they have interacted with both the higher self of that person and just a manifestation that source gives you like they are a piece of data or whatever... I would be completely happy if I could interact with their higher self or even them in another life in a totally different form. Which is most likely what would happen... but there are cases of people waiting for other people to go on adventures with after they die and start new lives together. I've also interacted with people who have an obe at the same time I do and we both share the same memories and say exactly what we did and it matches.... so other beings definitely move on.... it's not just you alone out there that's a FACT. From experience.... but it's still all coming from the same source. I like to see it as you're not alone and you can still contact and hang out with your loved ones just they might be in a different form. I hate the approach that someone you care for dies and that's it.... you'll never interact with them again and if you do it's a piece of data from source trying to make you feel better and it's not even them... to me that's disempowering and sad but to each his/her own. I've read on other forums too or groups where people say none of us even exist... weird stuff like that. If that's the case why do people say love is the only answer or the game is to lower entropy? If nobody exists why is murder even a bad thing? Aren't you just deleting a piece of data you don't want in your world? That only you exist in and nobody else is even real? It just makes no sense. What's the point in a romantic relationship? Nothing... because they don't even exist and when they die from this place they turn into data to make you "feel better" and you'll never even see that being again even in the afterlife. It's just sad to me and I'd like to think there's more to it than what I see a lot of people say... :/ I understand if someone dies here that's just an avatar... and they will change heavily and even look different etc over time.... but for god sake I'd like to think their spirit is eternal and you can always make that connection and hang out or whatever even after eons of lifetimes. I've heard of souls sticking together for 1000s of lifetimes

Mm, yes young bodies certainly have less 'drag' - less accumulated what-not in general.

It is also a part of the equation that as we live we learn.. So by the time we are in our 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s knowledge has accumulated as well. Such as what gelatin is, right? When you know what it is, and how many pigs suffer horribly to make it, how can we ourselves eat it without also suffering? So, yes, this becomes a very large part of the equation as well.

This whole subject really makes you think. I always have thought different diets are better for other people. I feel so much better not eating junk forsure. But I always wonder about other critters here. Like a turkey vulture for example. A bird that eats nothing but dead corpses. So much wildlife kill other animals and eat them. My cat kills a mouse for fun and doesn't even eat it lol. I also have heard people say chipmunks eat nothing but plants and last year I saw one with another chipmunk in its mouth. Very rare to see that. What a strange world! I agree with how animals are treated in the meat industry... this needs to change. I would rather hunt honestly... than support an industry that does that to animals. Maybe that's something I could look into since I live in the hills and have my hunter safety etc... like I said it's a very strange planet. I have a deer friend though I see every morning for the past two years. I feed her peanuts and she licks my hand and lets my scratch her chin and pet her like a dog. We have become great friends. I never thought I would meet a wild deer that gives me hugs every morning. It's so special  

Truth is you stank so bad your astral was just gasping for fresh air.

Lol hahaha xD yeah there's been lots of changes. I ate like that probably 8 years ago. I haven't touched fast food in prob 6 years after becoming more food aware. I'm also a nibbler now... I just kinda snack throughout the day. I probably only have one big meal a day. Thanks for the replies everybody

First off I just want to say this isn't bashing any form of diet out there. I just had some thoughts and wanted to share my experience. Back when I was getting out of body more than I ever have I was on a very unhealthy diet. Diet soda, fast food almost daily... and while I do not think this is healthy at all I would randomly just have astral sight kick in on a nightly basis and had powerful astral projections all the time. Meditation was easy and I didn't sense sugar was causing any kind of problems for me. I think everyone is different though. I see a lot of people saying you can't even eat meat or this stuff is impossible. Through experience I leaned that is false. I'm now on a pretty good diet and drink well water in the hills. I see no difference... in fact I seen a decline in my obes etc. back when I ate like crap I was in a healthy state of mind. As the years have gone on I'm processing lots of traumas that I experienced and I think I've really accumulated beliefs that are blocking me from my highest potential. I wanted to ask.... how much of this is just beliefs??? I'm not sure diet even has an effect on this stuff. I'm not promoting junk food or anting like that because when I eat healthy food I do feel good but I see diet right now having zero effect on this stuff... through personal experience. What do you think? I used to drink fluoride tap water and I was having remote viewing experiences that were too intense I had to "snap out of it" again I'm not saying fluoride is good!! But I wonder if the belief that fluoride is bad.... makes it harder. Back then I wasn't really aware of food and even fluoride. I had zero problems... I wonder if this all boils down to beliefs and intents

Don't know what happened replying up there ^^^ lol. But I'll paste what I said Lightbeam all very solid points!!!

I meditate probably 3 hours a day (broken up) and take a walk everyday feed the deer and work on my car. Those are my biggest hobbies. I def play computer games though. I've actually reached a point where I am almost lucid dreaming everynight I go to sleep. I just really wanna be able to meditate and get to those states.... it'll come I know it. I have a very hard time quiting my thoughts but I been watching a lot of tom Campbell videos and it does help. I also found stress is a huge factor in not being able to do any of this stuff... emotional crap seems to be a huge factor... :/

Only time can tell if staying away from FB can help you with OBEs. This affects everyone differently.
Games though played for hours at  a time can also exhaust the mind and not help you with OBEs. You need to do techniques consistently to achieve OBEs.

Technology pushes strongly virtual communications unfortunately. I think people are lonelier than ever nowadays due to that. Social media creates an illusion that you are socializing, but this is far from the truth. Also, so many people have their egos hurt because they don't get likes. They think others don't care about them and start questioning their own lives and happiness. We have started to compare our lives with what others post about theirs. That creates low self esteem especially amongst youngsters. But we don't realize that what others post are the most exciting things they do. Not many people post their problems.

Lightbeam all very solid points!!!

I meditate probably 3 hours a day (broken up) and take a walk everyday feed the deer and work on my car. Those are my biggest hobbies. I def play computer games though. I've actually reached a point where I am almost lucid dreaming everynight I go to sleep. I just really wanna be able to meditate and get to those states.... it'll come I know it. I have a very hard time quiting my thoughts but I been watching a lot of tom Campbell videos and it does help. I also found stress is a huge factor in not being able to do any of this stuff... emotional crap seems to be a huge factor... :/

I only have FB because I like seeing what my family is up to on the other side of the world, childhood friends, teachers, etc. Otherwise it would be impossible to keep contact with all of them. Just these brief interactions through pictures and likes are enough for me to feel good. This interaction with them make bring good memories from the old time. I do meet up with my close friend here though. Not everything is virtual, but as long as there is balance. This is the magic word BALANCE. I only check FB once a day. It taught me patience and how to sort out my priorities. My ego is not hurt if I don't get many likes on my posts, which are mostly sight seeing photos from my trips. People like seeing interesting places if they cant travel there. So, there is a lot of enjoyable information we can get from social media, funny videos that make me laugh and brighten my day, jokes, etc. I don't follow any celebrities, only Charlie Goldsmith, the healer. He goes live and discusses his ability, does remote group healings  and encourages people to live healthy lifestyle to avoid illnesses in the first place. He is very inspirational. So there, I extract only useful and enjoyable information from social media.

The constant stream of information though can be addictive just like sugar, alcohol, drugs, etc,so one needs to find a balance. I like to take walks every day. I cant wait for it. I only take my phone for safety, but I not once think about it or look at it during that hour. I fully submerge with nature and enjoy every minute if it. Just my thoughts and the sounds and scents of nature. People don't stay in silence anymore. They don't know their own thoughts anymore, only running on a background of some noise from TV, radio, youtube, reading info, etc. This is disbalance. But everyone has a choice. We just have to realize this addiction, the harm it does, and to create balance. It will take efforts to break the habits but one you find it you can take advantage from both sides.

Hey everybody. I am not sure why I wanted to make this topic but I was curious if anybody else has done the same. I just am announcing that I deleted Fb because of many reasons. I really only had like 10 friends. I always was posting pictures of myself and my car etc and it just hit me who the hell am I even talking to?! It's like I was talking to myself. I am really hoping deleting Fb will help with many things in my life. I kept messenger... so a couple people could reach me on there that's it. The only social media I have is YouTube where I will be uploading videos of games I play.... and that's it. I don't comment on things. I'm also practicing not reading comments. I can't believe how toxic things have gotten. I am crossing my fingers this may help me with obe! Instead of checking Fb all the time I can meditate instead or go outside... I found myself refreshing damn Facebook like every 5 mins and that can not be healthy... I feel like it hijacked my brain and I'm just done. I had a fear that people would not be able to find me and talk to me or if I die see pics of what I looked like etc... I know it sounds so silly. Then I realized nobody gave two craps anyway!!! Lol. I always been a loner... I'll never be going back to Facebook or Twitter. Only YouTube... because I'll upload gaming videos (I'm a big gamer) anyeay I just wanted to ask if this might help me with obe... I feel Facebook is just toxic to the mind. :/

Nawww nobody hijacked at all its not a problem at all!! I enjoyed reading too :—)

10 people in a field looking up at the sky. 5 see a UFO flying by. The other 5 only see a clear sky. Why is that. The 5 that saw it "needed" to see it. It may have had a profound and lasting effect on them.

I also wanted to reply on this quote that you made here "I know black magicians who can do things that are incredibly powerful and have experience with that."

All Magick is neutral. I have studied Magick for years from many different practitioners, from Aleister Crowley to H.P Lovecraft to Oberon Zell, etc..  Magick is all about focused will and intent, just as the practice of NP exploration is. The rituals, the Sigils are all there to enhance that focused will and intent. Magick is colorless. It's the intent of the practitioner that creates the "color". Many a White/light Sorcerer/Practitioner has used Black/dark Magick to create a positive outcome. ... and I'm, sure work the same vice versa.

I totally get it! That's exactly why I said that because there was this video I watched a couple nights ago where tom said if you do anything other than love the system will take your powers away or it will greatly decrease them. Which made no sense to me   Then I've seen other videos where he said that about lottery numbers. He said the system isn't interested in you getting money because it can't make you grow or something. So he said it will trick you or play a funny trick on you for trying to win the lotto. Again this made no sense to me though lol. And while it's kinda new agey thinking... anything is possible but I know so many people who say otherwise. The system won't allow you to win the lotto and possiblly help yourself and a ton of people (if the persons chooses) (I would...) but the system sure doesn't mind corporations that are probably not good... corrupt politicians... etc having lots of cash on hand. God forbid a hardworking slave just wins it big and maybe does something cool with it like grow an awesome business or pursue dreams! I don't know where that rant came from. Haha   but I totally get you and agree with that one!

Thank you for the replies everybody! Lion- wow it's been like 6 years man!! Haha hope all is well in your neck of the woods I lurk on here from time to time. Yeah I can control anxiety better... it's just really bad aspergers and sensory crap... I like to think of it as I'm really in tune 

Yeah I have this thing where I really want to understand things I observe... I'm good at shutting the intellect off when needed but during daily life when I daydream and try and put the pieces together I tend to think a lot. I just want to have a firm understanding. The problem is there are so many stories and beliefs and people teaching stuff out there it's conflicting. I guess the only way is through personal experience only. Literally.

I remember actually watching that whole lecture by Tom and I watched it again like 5 months ago believe it or not! I guess I just have a hard time grasping. I see things and can't understand them and I see them as real as this place... it's hard to make of what I experience. Maybe I should let go and stop trying to understand and just it is what it is kinda thing. I just dunno wtf these things are hovering over people and then you put two psychic people in the same room and it's "yeah I saw it too...." kinda thing.

I don't mean to keep bringing up negative stuff either it's just my intellect is wondering what the deal is. It's just like the third eye. During reiki courses I felt the chakras... the main ones anyway. Literally felt something there... my third eye pulsates and tom says that's a metaphor. For what? Then he says energy is just a metaphor.... WHAT?!?!? And all this time I was told everything is energy and can't be destroyed! See and then my intellect tries to understand this. I'm just fascinated is all. I'll try to observe more and not think of it too much

I am not an experet on Tom Campbell , but I did try to follow him on a few of his videos .  If I understand him we ( the cosmos ) are just a program running on this computer some where . So following that the entities are just part of that program .  His beliefs , not mine .  

Hey desert thanks for the reply! This is phaseshiftr btw you might remember haha I'm familiar with toms theories etc. I just saw a video where he said there are entities and attacks can happen... but he said it's like one in 100,000 people that happens too. Those stats are way off in my opinion... :/ on this planet it seems like everybody has some kind of interference sadly... whatever the source of the problem is... but at least he acknowledged it can happen I just don't agree it's 1 in 100,000 people. Seems much more common... with different severity... some attacks might not be noticeable but there are beings from the non physical walking all over this place from my experience so I just don't understand his view. Especially from someone who can shift consciousness at will like he can.

Hey everybody I was wondering if someone could tell me toms stance on negative entities, extremely severe psychic attacks etc. I want to start by saying I follow toms videos because so much makes sense to me that he says. Mostly only the applications though... and psychic abilities etc. when he talks about philosophy on pretty much anything he loses me. I don't believe in earth school, I don't believe if our loved ones visit us in a dream it's just the system trying to make you feel better and it's not really them or at least their spirit on a higher level, I don't believe the answer is love, etc etc you see where I'm going. But i strongly agree with a lot of his terms and how to get out of body and open psychic abilities and such.

I will not go into detail but a long time ago I played around with evps. (Talking to dead people through a recorder) I got myself into serious trouble. It seems tons immediate response to this would be fear lose the fear... but that makes no sense because I had no belief in this stuff and I wasn't fearful. I got out of body once and this shadow thing came out of my wall and threw me up against a wall and I stuck like a piece of bacon. The whole room shook and then I came back to this reality in my room and everything seemed normal... when I got out of body that day I was so excited. I smiled right when I shifted consciousness and I said wooo! What can I go do? Then in split seconds I was attacked by that thing. No time to react. Nothing. So many people say they are "fear tests" thats BS because I had ZERO time to react. I was being scratched and burned physically and was having breakdowns and panic attacks and basically 6 years of my life was ruined. When Tom calls these things "data" it's really weird to me. Wtf was scratching me and burning me and giving me nightmares? The funny thing is I was NEVER scared. I had nobody to talk to. It was like an adventure to me.  Since then I have come a long way and I'm in the process of becoming a psychic medium. I recently came across a show called the dead files. This show so many episodes is exactly what I went through... normal happy people who move into a home and are getting burned and having things beat the crap out of them in their dreams and little 6 year old kids seeing "monsters" all this stuff....

My question is it seems to be a lot deeper than anything tom can say. I watched a video on ghosts and he tried to explain. He said "they are as real as the data and data is real" and went to go say ghost hunters can cause experiences just by thinking of them etc etc... it didn't help me much.

He was asked about aliens and said it's just data... he seems to avoid the subject.

When I meditate I feel my third eye pulsate... but he says that's just a metaphor. Then what's pulsating? :/


My question is do you see these beings who do this stuff just data and self created? Or are they separate spirits outside of yourself living their own lives?

I know black magicians who can do things that are incredibly powerful and have experience with that... by witnessing it. Tom would say that's not love and that the larger consciousness system would shut their abilities off because it's not interested in that stuff. But that makes zero sense because they surpass these people who claim to be all about love and light etc... in fact the people who claim to be all about love and light seem to be getting psychic attacked all the time from my observations.

What exactly is going on here in your view?

Edit: I just wanna say also Clairvoyantly this planet has some really nasty critters on it... everyone seems to be messed with. Shadow people everywhere... wtf are these things? I'm not the only one who observes this either... I'm a loner but I live a happy life by myself. I'm comfortable in my own skin etc etc... people say all the time I create what happens with my thoughts... and I what I see in this reality I create myself by my own thoughts. So that means I created 9/11? Columbine? The homeless people I see everyday or the heroin junkies eyeballing me like they want to kill me when I go to the gas station? When I go home it's beautiful but society not so much... none of this makes sense and whenever someone says that it sounds like a bunch of new age mumbo jumbo.

Maybe these beings are best thought of as a virus? Because it's very real... and I know very happy people who move into dark homes and suddenly their life just gets destroyed. I see this stuff all the time. I guess I just want to find a video where I can agree with tom because I really like his videos. The "it's just data" doesn't do much for me

It's not an immediately easy question to answer for many reasons-

Sometimes it is just the difficulty of maintaining our NP awareness, not getting caught out by distractions, excitement, confusion...just this in itself is an exercise in strengthening our awareness and how to continue the experience.

Other times it can be a lack of proper intention, not having a definite purpose in mind for your NP experience. Without a proper intent, often an experience is simply ended either by us or for us. This doesn't sound like your situation but I did want to mention it for the general benefit of everyone.

Often, the inability to move from our current environment is because we have not yet recognized that a challenge has been set before us, a test of sorts. Early on, it can be a very simple kind of test: The recognition that we are in our bedroom or house; that we are in a NP approximation of our bedroom or house. Stating this recognition mentally may begin to open some more possibilities. So, if our experiences are ending suddenly and without explanation or understanding, it may be that we have missed something, a vital clue or lesson within the current environment; and thus the experience is aborted. It can be a difficult and frustrating way to learn. If an experience repeats one or more times, this is a definite sign that we are not responding properly. It can be as simple as literally "asking the environment what is expected of you". Sometimes a voice may respond. An easy enough thing to do, I just almost never remember to do it, Lol.

Demonstrating a clear intention, whether to visit a friend or to pass from your bedroom and out to the kitchen, the ability to do this will begin to become noticable and necessary. Sometimes it just naturally flows without barely a thought, other times your intention must be declared in a very definite way. So, it can take more than a few tries.

Another aspect is possibly involved, and that can include your energy level, or very possibly the current development of your NP senses. These are not your five PR senses; there are many new NP senses you can discover but that takes time; they are not Physical but that is how you are forced to translate them initially, because you really have no other frame of reference to understand the new information you are perceiving. So it is an uncertain kind of search, frustrating but also challenging and intriguing. Traveling beyond your PR body and cruising the neighborhoods and further beyond may require some NP senses that will require a little more time to come online, so you need to understand that this can often be the reason for the loss of consciousness; it does get better over time. So, some of the best advice can be to stay open as possible and be ready to think beyond the Physical Reality. Again, progress will require more than a few tries. Write all your experiences down in some form of journal and over time you will see patterns and improvement.

Keeping in mind the fact that neither I, nor anyone, can really know just where you are or what you should next focus on, my suggestion is to stay close to home in your OBEs and explore locally. Look for the possible tests you are being challenged with and make the occasional excursion to visit a friend. At this point, possibly the best advice is that when you find yourself in an OBE- simply ask mentally for the best and most beneficial lesson the Universe could grant you (that's the default Intent, Lol).

Hope that gives some ideas to consider,
EV

Thanks escape! I have had a ton of OBES since 2011... I used to be super active in trying to get out. Not much anymore... but I have had well over 100. The crazy part is I never struggled with any of this. Back when I ate junk food and drank fluoride water I was seeing spirits walk around and my third eye was always buzzing... I was having insanely powerful OBES. After a while my OBE's began to weakn... I even went vegetarian for a while and did an all organic diet... drank well water from a nice well underground... really focused on my health... and that didn't seem to do anything. When I am out of body now they are incredibly weak. Sometimes I can only see and can't hear... Most time I can't hear or so I just find myself walking around bumping into walls and this reality is 100x more real. So after a while I said gosh this isn't even worth it... I will sit there and stare at my hands and shout "GIVE ME SIGHT" "CLARITY NOW!" and nothing even changes... The experience remains weak and quite honestly no fun and it bums me out. It's sluggish and I cant move right. I used to be a pro and walk around just like I do here.

I am so glad that back in the day I was able to experience projections so real and powerful. Otherwise I would be questioning a lot more right now. I know how real they can be. I just find it funny when I ate junk food and drank diet sodas my psychic abilities were off the charts. Everything has seemed to weaken.... I still try and eat somewhat healthy and do the best I can but in no way am I on an organic diet.

My intent to get out of body hasn't really been there lately... I bet that plays into it... I would rather just sleep lately because its not so draining unless I have nightmares. Most of the time my dreams are so real and vivid they feel like astral projections I am just not aware of it.. It can be draining... This life is already crazy.... sometimes I just want to go to bed in a void of blackness and wake up feeling refreshed. When you're constanty having dreams that are so intense it adds up quick!

Hey everybody. When I get out of body I seem to be okay at first except I start losing awareness after 30 seconds or so. When I shift somewhere I intend to go everything goes black... and I feel a force like I'm flying but I never regain vision. Just is all black... and I usually end up back in my bedroom wide awake. Always happens!!! Does anybody know any tricks? I wanna visit people but honestly I end up asking higher self to bring them to me now... and sometimes that works sometimes it doesn't. Maybe depends what they are doing at the time?

I've been checking once a day! Glad to see it's all back up and running.

Nameless you sound just like me! I stay away from new age stuff... I don't agree with any of that either. (Because my experiences).. Something that bothers me is if I'm attacked and they tell me I'm attacking myself because that other being is me... and it's all fear. It's actually rubbish in my opinion. One saying I heard that makes sense to me though is... reality is a dream... and dreams are freakin REAL!!

No S hit!! You are so right, er..,, maybe!!! lOL

LOL I thought that fit for some reason. xD
Btw, nameless and everybody else I had a name change but it's phaseshiftR!

Why should loved ones have better things to do in a timeless world? They have free will, they can still decide to help us if we need it. Tom has some serious beliefs going on. He looks at everything like a scientist as datas and entropy. Somebody in a funny way I hope will look at him as a data too lol from another perspective. I can't count this man how many times confused me with his truths. Sure, many stuffs are common with others' experiences but he has his own agenda. I would say others, just find out for yourself and that's the best to do. In the end we may crash on our face lol but we tried.

I love all these replies! I don't know why but this talk reminded me of this... This will be us in the afterlife trying to figure it all out lol. https://youtu.be/gC7VvfDjr_k

Thanks for the replies everybody!

Xanth- I understand what you are saying but I don't know to me that's definitely not the next best thing especially if you're aware it's just basically a hologram or what not. I could see how this may be great for someone who is unaware of this... but if you know it's not really even "them" to me that would seem really awful. :/   Now to me I always wonder... Do these beings have a mind of their own? Do they think? Do they love lives outside of mine? I'd like to think so... I've had many OBES where I will interact with a friend in the astral or whatever similar to a comment above!

Then will wake up back here and they sure enough will message me and say hey I had a dream and we did this... and it's exactly what happened... and to me that tells me there is another being outside of myself that is in control of its own thoughts and actions etc...


I do realize we are all a part of the same consciousness that is all but something tells me from experience that these other "sparks" of consciousness think their own thoughts and really do exist outside of "my perspective" Like we could both look at eachother and say "hey we are the same being... but I can have my own thoughts and you can have your own too!" I realize it's all connected... That's what is so beautiful because you can instantly see anybody no matter the distance or whatever... I hope that made sense. By the way I respect your belief Xanth and who knows! I'm just having a very hard time accepting the fact that a loved one I see is really just a hologram that basically I'm creating and they are long gone. To me that's so disempowering but who knows...I've also heard Tom say in other interviews that "those beings still exist and are living" so I was like wait a sec... I thought he said they were just data and only showed up when you intended them to show up?! But he clearly said they were still around living their own lives. I wish I could find that again.... Thanks for the reply though man.

And thanks everybody for taking time to write down what you thought. This stuff always fascinates me and I've always loved these forums. I'm still around.... I just lurk a lot.

I gotta be honest though again nothing against Tom... but the "reincarnate back here to learn and grow earth school" theory always rubs me the wrong way. Out of all of the realities out there why come back to one that's controlled and dominated? To live life as a trash man... to learn and grow? Lol. I'm sorry but I'll be in my spaceship cruising the stars! I'll learn and grow other ways. How many times do we have to learn courage for god sake??? I think we have all been hoodwinked... something just isn't right. Most people on this planet are miserable. So come back over and over again? No thanks!

I was curious as to what people think about Tom Campbell's theory on the afterlife and what he says about psychic mediums.. and how they are just tuning into the larger consciousness system and that they really aren't communicating with the "being" that whoever it is you wish to hear from etc. I have a couple examples of a reading that mom got. A lot of spirits came through and the reading was so accurate that it blew my mind. So nothing against Tom at all... but he makes it seem like that when a loved one dies they basically move on and aren't connected to you whatsoever anymore. I do understand that when someone dies they probably move on and do their own thing and live other lives etc... but part of me wonders if them or their "higher self" or spirit whatever you want to call it still help out their loved ones. It's just very hard for me to think that when a loved one does pass away you're never gonna see them again. Tom has said many times in the afterlife if your loved ones approach you it's not even them. It's just the larger consciousness system giving you comfort. That SUCKS. Especially if you have thoughts about this and sense it may even be possible... So they're just gone? I know they aren't the avatar they were here anymore and that they are an energy that can be anything and do anything but I'd really like someone to say that I'm misunderstanding Tom because they makes me very sad.



My grandpa died in 2009. So who knows what he's doing now. Apparently nothing because Tom makes it sound like he's just a part of the larger consciousness system now almost like a hologram just to give you comfort. During the reading he came through and told my mom things like "don't sell anymore of my guns those are so important to me and I want them to be handed down in the family" Now why would the larger consciousness system care what we do with his guns if he doesn't even exist anymore? There were so many more examples of what he said that made it really sound like it's definitley his spirit. My mom recently had neck surgery and got a bone from someone who died and donated a bone for people like my mom with that specific surgery. HE even shows up in the reading appearing as what he was here in this life and the medium said he was curious who ended up getting his bone. And that he was very happy it's someone as sweet as my mom. Is that too just the larger consciousness system giving comfort or making it seem like they are still there?



There are so many more expanples I can give in the reading but there were so many cool and accurate things said... I know that these beings are not the avatar they were here... gender... appearance and stuff like that but I always thought spirits can shape into what makes the person feel comfortable etc and that the energy or being (spirit) they were and memories are what still exists.


For example if a loved ones passes away and then I die 40 years later and see them again like shift consciousness to where they are.... maybe they are living life as an alien or something? But I could say hey! It's me!" And that hopefully whatever they are now would embrace me with a hug even though it has a totally different life form than what that energy had on this earth etc... and I realize beings may change a bit over time obviously but it's still "them" at the core. Their beliefs and their memories and spirit etc..." and that exists forever.

Am I right on this and just not understanding Tom? Or when someone does die is it bye bye forever? Thanks everyone. It sucks because I love everything Tom says and it makes so much sense but this brings me sadness to know I could never see them again and if I do it's just the larger consciousness system making me feel better...

Hey guys!

It's been a few years since I've been on here. I used to have lots of great experiences and would have OBE's quite frequently. But unfortunately (very long story) I ended up getting an incubus/sex spirit attached to me. Every time I'd try and project, I was unable, because this thing was always there trying to drain my energy and "do things" with me.  Obviously this thing was a negative entity, as its energy was making it so I could never really project since I didn't have the energy to "go anywhere." Whenever I did manage to get out of my body, I would usually get just "stuck" on the floor of my room, with no vision, and no way to move or go out of the current vibrational level I was at.

I eventually just had to give up trying to project completely since this entity was always there, and then began physically manifesting in my house..scratching walls, trying to have sex with me while I was in the half-awake half-asleep phase. I eventually had to get my house cleansed to remove this thing, but I still have fear that it will come back if I try and go OBE again. I still feel like it is there at times, since I constantly feel like I am watched when I'm in certain areas of my house.

My question for you all is, what can I do to keep this thing at bay when I try and go OBE? Is this a matter of increasing my virbational frequency through chakra cleansing, meditation etc? Or do I need something more serious like an exorcism to completely remove this thing from my aura?

Fear will cause a lot of problems for OBE. However I would recommend to you a book... It's called the practical psychic self defense handbook by Robert Bruce. It saved my life.

You'll get people who say these entities are a creation of your own mind... and somehow it's your fault, and that it's just fear.... or "somehow you are attracting it and it's your fault" and other new age dogma that is completely untrue. I mean in some cases yes.... but t blows my mind when people say this stuff doesn't exist when it clearly does. In my experiences anyway...

Keep in mind I think some things during sleep paralysis are hallucinations etc... but we live in a sea of consciousness... and it's not all fairies and rainbows down here where we are at.

That book covers everything you need to know about the questions you just asked. Or you can look online and I am sure you will find some stuff on youtube too. Good luck
-Mars

It's been a while since my last post, but I felt like I should share an experience I just had. I was taking a nap with my baby brother, when I began to astral project. I got the usual experiences, but once I knew I was out of body, something strange started happening. Where my baby brother was, a little girl around the same age or maybe a little older, was crying. I felt no negative energy from her, and she began to talk to me. I can't remember what she was saying, but I knew she needed help. Skeptical, I actually went my back to my physical body and woke up, only to find that my brother was still sound asleep. I managed to instantly go back to where I was at, but this time, she was not alone. There was this other presence that I'm pretty sure was a spirit guide. I wasn't able to see them, but they guided me to where the little girl was talking about. They took me to the pre school where my high school adjoins it. It was like I was taken to the past, given that there were kids and parents running around there. My guide pointed out a spirit I needed to interrogate. I began to ask them questions about what they knew, but they instantly became resistant and didn't want to answer a thing. I became aggressive, and this spirit became even more aggressive, shifting their face attempting to scare me. It didn't work, and I attempted everything I could to find out more about them. My guide told me that there was nothing more I could do at the moment. I ended up going to this house that seemed pretty run down, and the little girl was there too. This time, she seemed frightened, and kept informing me that there was someone coming that she didn't want to be around. Before I could ask more, I was whisked away to an unfamiliar spot next to a highway. I was then confronted by about 3 or 4 other spirits, all asking if I could help them. Before I could reply, I actually witnessed someone being assaulted and possibly murdered. This is when I woke up. There has been no reports of murders or disappreances in my town, since it's a very small town. I'm not sure why they're asking me for help, but this is the first time this has happened.

I know this may sound cold, but I don't help spirits. They have caused me anxiety my whole life simply just being in my space. (typical ghosts) People who have dropped dead and are confused and can't move on. They always have come to me and some of them just "hang out" and it's really obnoxious. I tell all entities to beat it. I only work with my higher self and a few beings (That actually do help me out) Otherwise I don't even bother. I will say things like go find someone else... etc. Even if they don't mean any harm. For someone who is really empathic it's draining to have spirits run to you for help all the time. I found a lot of them don't care they are in your space and will drain your energy etc. I am nice about it... but I just tell everything to go away and leave me alone these days. Unless I want to make contact etc. They can actually be quite obnoxious. I am very sketchy with guides too.