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http://www.vincentbridges.com/    (Some curious things about cassiopaea.org)

I feel the same as Hephaestus, at this point I don't know what to think of any channeling. The truth is a hard thing to get.    

Ha! People are still at it I see! So concerned if mustardseed is telling the truth whit his channeling of god.... why? []  

People dragging this discussion fort for a long time now, I wonder when they finally get bored whit it, its mustardseeds opinion against yours nothing will come out of it anyway.

Oh and Jessica I love you sweetie!!  Hehehe []              

quote:Originally posted by Adinaut


A forum will attract participants that are on different
levels. If one can't handle a situation, then that's
very honest and fair. But pouring out guilt isn't gonna
help it. I see guilt as a form of control often used
by someone aligned to light polarity - and it's used when
somebody tries to control a situation. Some will bend their
knees, others will be detested. It expands the division
already there.

No one can give guild it's something you have or not, whit reason.

If have to admit the forum is taking a turn for the worse, I denied this till I was caught doing exactly what I denied was happening.

I think we should all think really hard about our own behavior, is this really who we want to be, a forum full of bickering immature people? I don't, ill be twice as careful about how I say something now, as not to fall into anger.

Last I just want to say thanks to the channelers doing this, for doing something wonderful for us and wish the ones on "sick leave" a quick recovery.    

Whit all the things that are going on lately I just want to say am thankful to you guys for doing this!

quote:Why don't you leave instead? You are complaining more loudly then everybody else put together. You are the one getting upset by other people's remarks. Not one thing you have said has added anything positive or added any ideas as to how to handle this growing problem.
Sites like this eventually die because the good people leave.

Fine ill leave this topic, I hope you follow my example.

quote:Besides chatting once in a while, why are all of you assuming that a group of people is tag teaming against another. Are you guys tag teaming. People are speaking from their own experiences not rallying around behind one person.

I never assumed such a thing; I just made an easy generalization of calling people who act the same in this matter his friends. If you have read the post carefully I don't see how you could have missed this.  

quote:"negative view", "being negative" ... I think part of the atmosphere now in this forum is due to the different understandings of what this means.

Let me tell you what I think it means.

Negative View: Continuously complaining about the post people make and telling how bad the forum and its people are. Nothing is good everything is bad and it's going to be worse.

Being Negative: Always seeing the worst side of things, selectively mentioning bad things whiteout ever focusing on the good things, further more it means not trying to improve the mood of the forum, but constantly complain about it.

quote: Terms such as "negative" and "positive" get used way to much in these discussions, to the point where they become ridiculous. An approach or attitude that seems negative to others could be perfectly rational at the time for the one who carries it.

It think the terms are quite clear in their context, anyone whit fair intelligence can see if a post is negative, of course some people have more tolerance for the (negative) atmosphere of a post than others, but whit some I would think there is little doubt.

quote: Besides, the term negative, as generally used in new age lingo, irritates the hell out of me. Every time I see it used I get an image in my head of a bunch of hippies running away in fear shouting "NOO!!! Negativity! My spirituality is eroding!! ERROOOODDDDIIINNNG!!!

Heh... so funny.

quote: This entire site has become a sh*thole. This is why a lot of good people are leaving or they do not bother to post here anymore.
This site has become a sh*thole because of people who pretend to need help or the other idiots who pretend to channel entities. That is only the tip of the iceberg as to why this place is crap.

Since I can't use the term negative anymore I just like to say, shut up! Why don't you leave, please do, because this crap of people like you is really what's making this place so f***ed up. All this f***ing whining, just go elsewhere whit it!

quote: It woud be no pity if this entire site was closed down since this place has gone down the tubes.
This site has been getting worse over the last six months.

You have to say this in every post you make?? It's because of people like you everyone gets the impression this site is really so bad. Perhaps you and your friends who think alike just like to leave? Or you could just stop your gosh darn whining and make something of the place.

quote: This site will likely die due to how things are going here. Oh well it's not the only site on the net

I suppose you hadn't mentioned it enough.



Perhaps people want to stop whining now and get on whit it?

Akensai - make your point but watch the language! - James

James - I came off a bit hard here, but i mean it 100%, this complaining about everyone and everything really got to stop.

quote:Originally posted by Dark Knight

quote:I've always thought your post had despair written all over them

It doesn't have to be despair...it's only despair because most people can't envision living that way even for a few days never mind 6 years. Did surviving this far count for anything? Did the fact that someone intervened to break me free last year count for anything? Why is despair to be alive?

It means something, I'm sure it does to many people, but your not helping things by holding on to your negative view on the things happening here, to break the cycle you have to start whit yourself!

quote:It can't be done here anymore, Akensai, there is no respect...there's only boasting of conquest.

I'm I hearing you say here; "because other people are negative I'm doing it too"?

I've always thought your post had despair written all over them, maybe at one time this was justified, but even now? Couldn't you just stop that, maybe things would change, oh, but wait you have already given up!

Things are not that bad, but drowning in your negative view of things you won't see this, let alone work to change whatever is wrong.

Perhaps for you it's better to just leave it alone.    

Dark Knight,

Then stop this negative talking of yours and do your thing, help people and please stop creating this whirlpool of negativity around you.

quote:Originally posted by Dark Knight

Akensai

There are other forums elsewhere that can provide the necessary stability people under attack need, minus the finger pointing and the demand for explanations every time support is asked for.

What are you still doing here then?

I tried to understand you Dark Knight, but i just don't get you at all!

You came to this forum and got help, but now you want to shut it down?

As why to leave it open, because it's clearly needed.    

quote:Originally posted by McArthur

quote:Originally posted by Akensai

This would be true, would it not that they never asked you to belief anything or trust them, they have every right to hold things back, they never made the claim to tell you everything you wanted to know.

But if they claim to be bringing important epoch-changing (or life-changing) information to Humanity then surely it is only fair that we are allowed to ask for some verification that what they are telling us is true and that they can be trusted?

No, being fair has nothing to do whit, they don't want to give direct verification and we can do nothing about it. All this talk about trust is useless.

quote:
And do you have proof against the zeta's that they have lied anywhere?

quote:
(Most likely if what they say (poleshift etc.) doesn't happen they will fade out of my mind.)

Well according to zetatalk.com (i.e. Nancy) the poleshift was to happen in late May early June of 2003. But guess what? Nothing happened! [:O]

True, but they gave a logical argument, as they do whit many things, this is the reason I stay neutral on the topic and I'm not against it.

Have you taken a look at this site? http://www.skepticalmind.com/zetatalk.html

Yes, I did take a look at the site now, but it is to much, all this trouble to see if anything of this is true, it is too tiresome. If poleshift comes, then I can't stop it anyway, it is said the signs are apparent, so when the time comes and if it comes then we can deal whit it then. Until then ill just stick to this topic.

quote:Originally posted by McArthur

I can't reveal my methods before the testing or it may not work. []
Do schools give their students the answers to exams before an exam?

Ah so you're going to test them whit questions and you don't want to give the answers, fair enough []

quote:Originally posted by Hephaestus

quote:Originally posted by McArthur

quote:Zeta says: When we do not answer a 'test' like this, there is a purpose behind it, and we want to make it transparent that all guides work in this manner, they have to.

Uh oh. ding ding ding! You're out! Sorry but this is totally incorrect. Any good spirit will NOT mind being tested because they know (the good spirits) how easy it is for a bad spirit to deceive the unwary. Any spirit that refuses to be tested obviously has something to hide, regardless of whatever 'hidden' ("we can not tell you at this time") explanation they come up with. Games up folks, time to banish them negs.

I agree, there is something heartily fishy about these channelings and the attitude from these beings toward some people on the board when they ask certain questions. It seems to me to be a perfect example of a wolf in sheeps clothing.

This would be true, would it not that they never asked you to belief anything or trust them, they have every right to hold things back, they never made the claim to tell you everything you wanted to know.

Let's say we have a discussion, on the forum or elsewhere it doesn't matter, than I tell you something, I tell you explicitly; you don't have to belief it, now that something turns out something you don't belief is true. Than if you asked me something about it, to test me and I tell you I don't want to answer your question, does that mean I'm somehow "false" or not who I say I am? It simply means that I don't want to answer that question nothing more, nothing less, I don't need to prove anything, as I didn't ask for your trust or that you belief me. There could be many reasons why I don't want to tell you, perhaps it's something that would be dangerous for you to know, perhaps I can't tell you, because I'm told it's to stay a secret. Now does this really say anything about me and would this prove me being anything other than I say? This would only be the case if you had direct prove of what I said to be wrong, then you can draw your conclusions about me and present them to anyone, then you can say this man is not who he says he is, he lied about this and that. Else it only stay guess work on your side and your only presenting your beliefs, not the truth. And do you have proof against the zeta's that they have lied anywhere?

Just too let you know I belief these channelings to be useful and enjoyable, however I haven't made up my mind to belief them to be true or not and I don't know when I will, if ever. (Most likely if what they say (poleshift etc.) doesn't happen they will fade out of my mind.)

Of course you do have to right not to belief them and everyone can start a discussion over this, open a topic or whatever, but I'm quite sure nothing good will come of it.

If I may ask, how are you going to find out if a spirit is "bad" or "good"?

I think everyone agrees that flaming is bad, yet we are well on our way to make the tread a very hot place. It is not the fighting that bothers me most; it's that people fail to make up after. These debates take place on regular basis, but it seems nothing is accomplished.

Perhaps a large part  of the problem is that people refuse to see the other side, everyone (I definitely do at times) hold their argument so close, it seems we are afraid that if we let it go we might actually die in someway, as the person we are at this moment.

I don't want to move in to much spiritual babbling, but I do think the root of the problem lies in our ego, we attach to our current beliefs to much and we have so much desire to be right, for that we much prove someone else wrong, at least that how our ego looks at things.

That's not to say debate is wrong, it is needed of us to grow, to change, but the way it is often done now is not going to help anyone. When we share our thoughts, things still going alright its when we go for the "attack" things go wrong, we try to prove someone's statement wrong, to slice it up whiteout any consideration for the person who wrote them, he really beliefs those things you just so brutally murdered! (How dramatic!)  

The problem is when you can't confront anyone on the beliefs things get very difficult, this is not acceptable either, so you have to find the a way to work around this. First when you going to post an argument against someone beliefs, you have to be respectful and polite against that person, I also feel if you post an argument in disagreement to someone's beliefs you should make a good constructive argument to why you disagree.

I think we should also learn to agree to disagree and when to keep silent. Sometimes we take things to far this is I think of our desire to be the winner, the one who proves the other wrong, the last one standing, why do we think this so important. Perhaps we should look at the reason for posting a argument, do we post because we want to help a person or do we post to show everyone how right we are?

I also want to say something about the responsibility of communicating, this should indeed be equal, but this is not always the case, it can't be. Sometimes a person is not in the position of taking this responsibility, but what are you going to do, do you forsake that person, that person we perhaps really needs help? You are going to blame him for having these problems and your going to blame him for not being able to share the responsibility because of them? I hope everyone can see this is not possible, if you want to help someone, you give it without a prize. (Even it's a fair actual prize for both) The help whiteout expecting a reward is truly admirable.

Well ill stop now, I already said so much, still I feel I left things unsaid that should be said, but I don't know which at this moment.

Much love,
Akensai.

I think a reason why god doesn't want to give mustardseed a anwser to his zeta question might be , because he would get upset either way. He now bliefs negs are channeled, but if it turn out this way he wants to do anything to destroy to operation, on the other hand if they are not negs this would give him alot of doubt and confusion.

Still i think this is an important question, should you really let it go? I think for me this question would have been important enough to seek the confrontation. Wright or Wrong? I don't know, i depends on many factors, one how much trust do you have in your god and (and this you can only gues) he in you? What is your relationship, how close is it, shouldn't you just be able to ask and recieve a honest anwser?

I think the awnser to happyness is concious and the lack of it brings us misery, thats why is important to get to know ourselfs, to wake up!

And physic abilities can help you in your quest, but if seen as a goal on their own they bring you no more happyness than mundanne things, take astral travel for example, its a good tool to rialize we are not our body and it also gives us a oppertunity to talk to higher beings, and can be fun, but when its all over you have to live life just as normal and it doesn't help you whit that.

quote:As for that remark about my open-mindedness being the equivalent to that of a towel, once again, you don't know me. The first post in this topic from me was a generally anger-filled one, but now that I'm thinking, I can say that I can read those posts about Zeta, Rep., whatever, with less bias and more acceptance to the views of others. As No Leaf has already pointed out, they do have some excellent points for self-growth.

Yes, i don't know you, i only judged you on your first post, in fact maybe that was a mistake on my side. Perhaps you do have a bit of a point that there are lots of non-serious posts, but i like this place, i don't think there is that much wrong whit it.

light and love... blessed be.... whatever []

All this turning around the question of god is really making me dizzy. I find the answer he did give very unsatisfactory. Now I know this is my opinion, we all deal differently whit things, personally I would have really wanted the answer to the question and if it was me channeling than "and Mustardseed.....don't tinkle me off. Yea you heard me. If I say don't go there you are best served by obeying me and trusting me...OK. I love you but you get a bit testy at times, you should work on that" would not have been acceptable, but like I said that's me.

I know, for me this is a topic on a forum, but for mustardseed this is real, still I would like him to consider why god doesn't want to answer this question strait on. Again this is not to discredit the experience mustardseed has, I only want him to be honest whit himself, an doing so I would think he should really think a bit about the answers in the last post, unless of course he doesn't think it is needed.



......on the other hand who am I to question God? []  

quote:and Mustardseed.....dont tinkle me off. Yea you heard me. If I say dont go there you are best served by obeying me and trusting me...OK. I love you but you get a bit testy at times, you should work on that

Thats scary.

quote:I've always respected F_T because he tells it like it is. He speaks out for the people that don't want to. Of course, you can't ALWAYS agree with someone, and I haven't always agreed with him. But when he "rants" about things like this, and you read it unbiased, you see his point of view.

I have no knowledge on this topic, I only posted about his ways of making a point, I find very rude, but if a moderator agrees whit his way, what can I say.

Heh, I suppose your right then []   ........ tells it like it is ... hahaha.

This is incredible; one topic wasn't enough for your self-righteous complaining? Listen who are you to judge Fat_Turkey? OH! Yeah you're the Fat_Turkey, that's right.... (Yes I know that says nothing, my point!)

There are two ways the make a point, polite or like you, aggressive and offensive. Cut it out Fat_Turkey.

Let's get one thing right, I'm not against you disagreeing whit something, but it's the way you do it, it really pisses me off.  

quote:Originally posted by Fat_Turkey

Well...Where is it??

For those of you that were around in the good old days, I bet you all miss the old conversations on helping others to get out of body, to help accomplish their goals in NEW Energy Ways, and talking about our experiences "out there" and trying to understand it all.

But now, where the hell has that all gone? This site is filled with Alien-Worshipping egotistical p***s who go around claiming they can talk to aliens, and when we don't believe them they seem to claim that we don't have "open minds" because we choose not to believe them.

Then there was the huge wave of the ki krowd. Some of them are STILL around, in the new guise of "Demon Slayers." All of them blabbing about how cool they were in their last demon-killing endevour.

CUT IT OUT!!! This is supposed to be a website where people can learn about themselves, their experiences, and help others to understand. All you're doing is poisoning it with egotistical crap that nobody really wants to hear. Those that do want to hear are just like you - egotistical prats that just want to be a part of your army and help it grow.

And this Judgement Day stuff...this whole "Demonic War," "2012," "Plaeidians" "Greys" "Demons" BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH.

You can't prove anything with your "mayan calendars," so stop mustering your armies of weak-minded sheep, or at least TAKE IT SOMEWHERE ELSE.

Once again I understand that this post will probably not be appreciated by anybody on the forum, I'm just ticked off by all the clutter. As usual. Just getting my opinion across

~FT

Oh my, where do I begin!

You call others egotistical, but you yourself and your opinion take up enough ego space to fill up the Atlantic Ocean.

You know what open-minded means, it doesn't mean believing everything that is said, it means you are involved in something without judgment, to see where it goes so to say. You my man have the open-mindedness of a towel.

Do people not talk on OBE anymore? Do they not continue their discussions on NEW? There is no excuse for you not to help these people anymore, because they aren't gone, it is you who is, nothing stopping you to get the "good old times" back.

You complain about people who are involved when KI development, you blame that those have now become "demon slayers", yes I agree there are some non-mature people on this board, but instead of blaming them for what they are you could help then, most of them are still young, either in age or in physic development and spirituality, they need you to guide them, for them to grow. Still you don't care about that do you, not really, you say you do, but its not really so, you only care to have things go your own way, your precious old astral pulse where did it go, I tell you, you destroyed it yourself. You who call others egoistical, if they are egoistical is there still a name for people like yourself?

What is the astral pulse? It has grown to be a forum for the "un-worldly" matters, where else can you talk about OBE, Energy development so openly and now it has even became more, is this forum not the prime example of open-mindedness? Talks about aliens, you should be proud of it, don't you understand how unique this is? This entire forum whit the support of so many, yes not all are on the same level, but you should learn of it and you should teach others.

And wasn't it enough? No you had to go on whit you criticizing; you go on and call people to leave, because you don't agree whit what they talk about? WHAT?!? Do you feel you are so righteous?

And in the end you say you feel your post won't be appreciated, and unfortunately some do, SHAME ON YOU AND THOSE THAT AGREE!!!

Think about it, perhaps.................... No you probably won't see my point. It is sad, it really is, so sad.................... I hope the others do see, please do.

Hallo,

I have a few more questions.

1) After someone dies, where does he go until reincarnation?

2) It is said when an enlightened master dies he isn't reborn anymore on earth, where does he go after death?

3) Before the poleshift happen I understand there are warning signs, after that sign is there still enough time to go to safety and how should we deal whit the problem of mobility (car jams, fuel problems etc.) in the than critical time?

4) You won't give any specific year when the poleshift happens, but maybe you can tell me does it still happen in my life time (and I'm 19), also is the going to a higher density experienced by most people who survive the poleshift (those in good health and not elderly)?

5) When you feel guidens is needed, could one get it by calling out to zeta's or other (hopefully) good minded guide's? Does this work as simple as calling out in a deep relaxed state (perhaps even a trance)? What is the chance one gets guidens of a good minded advanced being instead of a "neg"?

6) I'm currently reading the work of an Indian mystic called osho, since he is somewhat controversial, could you tell me is he indeed was an enlightened master?

Thank you in advance!