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Hey fresco!
How did u personally listen before you found results? Did u ONLY listen while web surfing or did you also listen as a meditation tool? How long from your first listen til u had ur first obe? Do u think it may have been because your intent was so high to have an obe that your intent is what gave you the experience vs. the tapes? Like say i order the mp3 and listen today. And im super psyched with hopes that they will work. Maybe it was my "super psyched-ness" that initiated the obe and not the tapes. Or do u attribute the tapes 100%? Ill give u my results as soon as i order and listen. I hope it increases the frequency of obes during "lull" times. Thanks! Latr.

Im curious if youve ever listed to the Monroe wave 1 CD and how it stacks up against this subliminal Astral cd as far as actual obe results go? Also-i would be getting the mp3 file to stream by bluetooth. Do you think that would hurt quality? Thanks for the link! Looks promising. Especially by the positive reviews.

I simply say "more light" and it brightens up perfectly. It took a few obes before it worked though but since it started working my obes are usually plenty bright to begin with. The stars especially are amazing. Good luck!

Nevermind. It shows more links for more mp3s after you load the first tape in your cart. It says "you may be interested in theses mp3s as well." There is one titled "Lucid dreaming" and one titled "Astral projection." Which one did you use/prefer? This could get expensive at ten bucks per mp3!

You said "Im four weeks into her tapes"........the link you post is for one dvd. Is that what you refer to or is there more material? Thanks!

I agree with all you wrote. My point was this: NDEers seem to actually experience the rtz whereas OBEers seem to access the dream state ie lucid dreams. So how can we know they are one in the same?

When people experience NDEs it seems as if they experience the physical as if remote viewing themselves ie, "I heard what the Drs. said to each other and them pronouncing me dead" etc. which i believe is refered to as the real time zone. None of my OBEs have occured it the rtz- although many are very similar, i clearly realize the experience is within me vs. me floating out of my body in the physical. Even Monroe spoke about "pinching" a woman friend of his to prove he was OBEing in the rtz-but again, my experiences are clearly not the rtz. . Although most of Monroes experiences were clearly not in the rtz. So I am curious if NDEs actually occur in the rtz or if they simply appear to because of the similarities just as OBEs do? At times i have wondered if obes and ndes were one in the same given many people label ndes as actually happening in the rtz and label obes as "only lucid dreaming" and not the same as an nde in the rtz. Im curious if there is literature on people who have experienced an nde and also experienced obes for their opinions. I only ask this because i spoke with a person who said NDE'ers actually float out of their body ala a ghost and OBEers are simply having lucid dreams. I couldnt guide this person to any literature of people who have experienced both who state they are one in the same.

I like how you say "Michael Raduga's indirect techniques"... like he invented them or something.
Michael Raduga is a fraud.  He doesn't even believe projection is something real.  So meh.  You'll forgive me if I toss him and his book into the trash bin.

Whats it matter who invented the frikken technique Xanth? Radugas book is FREE and gets straight to the point-fast-on how to project quickly with excellent techniques and is the best book out there for newbies imo. His beliefs are totally irrelevant and his intent is to teach people how to project in a precise, easy to understand manner. Who cares about his politics or beliefs or how he takes a dump in the morning as long as the techniques work? Sheeesh!

What you describe is usually how i have the most success at projecting. As soon as you become aware, immediately relax your mind and body as if going back to sleep but make sure to remain aware. Then watch out for imagery or energy sensations then boom!-you are on your way to project!

I had consecutive obes after a relative dry spell i found strange. The first night i was hovering at the sleep/wake border and just before i fell asleep vibrations came on strong. I ended up in a couples home that seemed slightly in the future and they had these old worn ancient looking books on a shelf. I was analysing best i could and the writting in the books was tiny and i had a brief thought "damn-i wish i had my reading glasses" then i moved along to other things in the obe. The next night as i hovered close to the sleep wake line i fell asleep for five minutes before vibrations seized me and as my head was coming out and the ob scene was revealing itself i noticed half my vision was blurred and half was clear. The reason being is because i entered the obe with my damn reading gladses on at the tip of my nose! The only thing i can surmise is because the previous nights obe i briefly wished i had my reading glasses so -poof-i had them without even asking the next night. Has anybody else had an intent during one obe manifest during a different obe? Weird.

I think i figured it out. I was at planet fitness using their wifi. Ive never seen anything like it before. Ill test again next time i workout and take a screenshot of the block. Is there a way i can post it?

Many studies have shown that a float tank can easily induce theta brainwaves with hypnagogia. Ive also been thinking along the same lines and am gonna check out "floating" this year. On another note, this site was blocked earlier today because the server said it was a cult? Whats up with that?

I tried to get on the site earlier and a message said "astralpulse has been blocked by the server" or whatever because AP was a "cult." Wtf was that Xanth!??

You nigtly go into altered states of consciousness by dreaming. Engrain the question in ur mind as your intent and dreams will answer your question. 

All the Seth books are great but The Nature of Personal Reality is the one I'd pick if I had to choose one to recommend.

If you're interested, the current of the Seth teachings have been continued and expanded by another channel. I know, I know... channelers are a dime a dozen and many of them are suspect for various reasons but ask anyone who has studied the Seth material for a long time where to find the best contemporary material and they will point you here:

http://www.eliasweb.org

Plus there's some handy digests here:

http://www.eliasforum.org/digests.html

All the material is free.



I would recommend the seth material over elias any day. Theres enough material for years of studying without bringing another channel in. Just my opinion.

Thanks! Ive never seen this guy before. Grateful.

Thanks Xanth. So do you personally practice noticing every day just before sleep? Ive had limited success with this method. For some reason i have a difficult time consciously conjuring hypnagogic imagery.

Do you still keep nightly intent?

Ive had vibrations since 1978 that i only learned of their obe aspect this past year in which ive learned much. My problem is this: I hardly ever have an obe without the vibrations. A few times hypnagogia turned into an obe/lucid dream but even then i had vibrations. Im really curious how yall go ob without vibrations and what your go to technique(s) is. Also.....exactly what ARE these vibrations in your opinion? Thanks!

Hey Lucid
Just a quick reply. Since my first post ive discovered a sure fire projection technique. After i settle in to the vibrations and i am able to move my astral arms i slowly move my right hand towards my head and grab my hair where bangs would be. I then pull my head out and the body easily follows. Its worked every time. Thanks for replying!

My experiences happen 99% of the times through vibrations. My exit technique is this: once i have achieved astral vision during vibrations or it "feels right" i will move my astral arm towards my head and pull my hair which gets my head out so then the body easily follows. My body has always easily projected but not so for my head. This new technique of pulling my hair to project my head has worked every time since trying it. Anyway-i was laying on my left side and felt a "shift" which i relaxed into and the shift turned into vibes. I slowly moved my right arm and grabbed my hair and suddenly someone else grabbed my elbow while im pulling my hair. I said "pull-pull-pull" which he indeed did so and suddenly im on my feet face to face with a "real" friend i have although he looked slightly different. What i found odd is the environment seemed as though i really lived at the abode where my friend pulled me into ie i didnt think "wow-this is just a lucid dream and these surroundings are foreign." It seemed as if my friend simply let himself into my astral abode and awoke me from sleep with something he urgently needed. It didnt seem strange. It felt like i was actually living a life in that environment as if it were literally "me" but in a different dimension. Many of my other obes,  the environment seems foreign and i explore the foreign environment. This time it all felt natural as if i really did live in that abode and my friend came over to visit early in the morning. If it were "only" a lucid dream it would seem like i would say "ok-this is a dream and i am going to do this or that." Also-the manner i projected was a first. Having a friend pull my arm as im pulling my hair, assisting me in projecting. I believe we exist with multi dimensional personalities. Do yall think i "walked into" one of my multi dimensional personalities or am i over thinking this. Or.........? Thank you in advance and have a great day!

THANKs for the replys. Monroe and Frank Kepple et al seemed to have a reliable singular guide whom they could call on during each experience. I suspect that is rather rare given nobody has mentioned that. Thanks again!

To those who have successfully accessed a guide could you expand on precisely how you did so while ob.  etc. Thank you.

Ive tried that and it doesnt work hence me emailing admin. There is no "modify profile" in my setting yet there is "account related settings" but when i click on that it only allows me to edit my PW......not my username. Im using an ipad. Maybe thats the reason. Thanks for taking the time to reply.

Ive emailed admins without reply. How can i change my forum name? Thank you.