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Greetings Birm,
Greetings Adrian,
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Thank you very much indeed for clarifying your method. In fact, the method you are using is one which I rate extremely highly; no doubting its effectiveness. This is phasing in its absolute terms.
Well I didnt know i was phasing, i thought i put it all together from what i read. So i am glad to hear that this method is known by other projectors. I think everyone can project using this method because it is easy and very effective. Especially for learning the astral senses i think.
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Achieving the "Astral screen" effect is crucial to success, after that it is a matter of entering the screen. This leads me to another couple of questions for the benefit of those following this method:
1) How do you "feel" for your Astral senses?
Well i developed a technique named Triangle Method which you can find in the Astral conciousness forums. What i did was to examine the feelings and senses i am experiencing in the astral. I thought if i could get used to these feelings i would be able to travel through astral anytime i want. All i needed was to remember the senses and to concentrate on them.
So on experimenting the senses i realized a sound coming from my ears when i wake up in the morning. This sound seemed like it is always there. You can find the details on The Triangle Method topic. I experimented with the sound furhter. When i am in the astral i dont hear such sound. But on the other hand when i enter the seperation process i may hear it getting louder and louder. While it is getting louder it mixes with animal screams or human voices.
In Turkey there is a word when you hear a ringing sound in one of your ears saying "Someone is thinking about you." I wonder if this saying has any relations...
Astral senses are a lot different than physical senses so describing them is very hard. I mean i feel like i am trying to describe the seeing sensation to a blind person when i try to describe my astral senses.
There is a discussion on Astral Experiences forum i made with TheLunatic about this. You can find it. The topic is named "OOBE I just had! - Extended Discussion"...
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2) How many months of practice did it take you to achieve the Astral screen stage? I think many people see the hypnagogic imagery, but never reach the Astral stage from what I read in the forums.
It took only one month actually. I first experienced the astral screen while i was experimenting with the BWGEN. I was trying the Deep Mind IV preset. That was an experimentation so i was trying to see what happens when i use Bwgen. So i was a passive observer. I was letting the images and visions come and go just as letting the thoughts come and go when meditating. I think the hypnagogic imagery is some sort of thinking but thinking with the imagery instead of words. Seeing the hypnagogic images happens in an altered state of mind. But if you want to project you will have to move into a deeper state of mind. I dont use Bwgen. I even uninstalled the program. But it really helps for the newbies i think.
I also want to say that some people are reaching the astral stage but never realize they reached it. They think they are just seeing hypnogogic imagery. Because they dont know what they will feel or see when projecting. Also their expectations are always different than what they will encounter.
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3) Do you lose the feeling of your physical body completely during this process, or care you still aware of it while phasing?
In RTZ: I can feel my body. I can feel both my physical senses and astral senses at the same time...
In Astral Plane: I Completely loose the physical body feelings...
I had a lot of experiments on this. First of all i have to tell you that you will feel a body. But it is not your physical body. You will feel arms, legs, hands, toes... So you will feel you are still aware of your body. But YOU ARE NOT AWARE OF IT. At least in my experience... I came to this conclusion by trying to move my muscles while projecting. I was in the astral plane and i was in some sort of Lucid dream. There were people around, trees, things... I wondered if i could be able to move into RTZ from there. So as Mr. Bruce said i tried to feel my physical body at the same time. I tried to feel both of my bodies. But i couldnt feel my physical body. So i tried to raise my right hand. All the visions around me melted away and i was forcing my self to move my right hand i felt totally paralyzed. Within tree seconds i moved my right hand and opened my physical eyes at the same time. I was forced myself back into my physical body. My body was numb, i felt very tired and i wanted to sleep. I realized i was laying down on my bed that moment. I slowly started to forget about the scenery in the astral as i was focusing on the Real world.
Best Regards,
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