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I'm just against charging large sums of money for this kind of education.
This type of stuff should be free (or near free) to all of humanity.

If TMI wanted to help humanity, as was Robert Monroe's initial goal... he wouldn't have been charging all this money.

Personal opinion. 

Hi X: Good luck in creating that consensus reality.

S.

From the courses I've seen, they're around $1000 - $2000...
I dunno about Stookie, but I certainly can't afford that kind of thing... especially when I can learn to do the same thing here for free.  

Hi X: Don't forget travel expenses. The whole thing can cost up to $4000.  . And you are right... with diligent practice you can accomplish the important things for free. But, for newbies who can afford it, it is a great experience without a doubt and a safe environment. For those who have real difficulty it is a big help because it is a neutral environment. And there is a group dynamic that is pretty powerful. Plus some fun things happen. In one of my seminars I was in my chec unit and in an exercise and heard a man say 'Hello'. When we debriefed I told the group I heard someone say 'Hello" and the guy pipes up, 'that was me... I went around and said hello to everyone'.   Then, in one of my sessions... as we were coming out of a session I felt someone take my hand... I knew who it was... at debriefing I told her what happened in debriefing... and she said, 'yeah we were all in a circle...' The only thing I remember is her taking my hand.  

So there is a fun aspect to it all as well as a productive growth thing. And supporting a bonified honorable group to advance the evolutionary growth of the planet.


S

Thanks for the replies guys

I think I'll just stick to the program and keep meditating like I have been. I've gotten to the point where I always end up falling asleep if I attempt to meditate on my bed so I guess ill have to move it elsewhere. Anyone have any suggestions?

-Fermitas

Hi F: Have you read Buhlman's Adventures beyond the body? He suggest that doing any kind of meditative work it is best to have a designated spot, that is not the place you sleep. I would add it might be better to have a special room even if that is possible.

S.

But we spend so much time here because we can't afford TMI.

Hi Stookie: What state are you in?? How is it you can't save enough for a once a year TMI experience?

S.

Hi All: Little by little the significance of the key symbol in my current belief system crisis is unfolding... the Ashkenazi symbol represents orthodoxy... as a Cancerian conservatism fits well with my underlying belief system structure... (none of these things are known to me directly) I am only becoming aware of them as I continue to attempt to get into the non-physical universe... I have now hit a clear subconscious substrata of belief system barriers that need to breakdown... when you get beyond the Monroevian focus 21 territories... the mind communicates in a non-verbal language... orthodoxy and conservatism cannot understand symbolism, innuendo, subtlety and intuition... they can only grasp objective reality... the focus 21 and above territories are all subjective/objective reality...

The plot thickens.

S.

Outstanding!!! No sooner than I am able to interpret and recognize the meaning of a non-verbal communication something happens:

10/18/2010 – Evening session:

The session progressed very well... energy streaming right side, off buttocks and thigh... well being... a lot of itching around the face... began to use the itching not there technique that seems to work... some fundamental body activity... then in the center of my brain... a shattering of like shale... crumbling off... I think the disintegration of my encrusted belief systems are now beginning to fall apart.

S.

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10/19/2010

Very encouraging dream:

I was in my garage looking out on a street in which in the middle of it was my car (a mustang or Mercedes) which was for sale... it was blue... people were looking at it.

Interpretation:

Looking out of the garage door... this symbolized my shift from my personality (the car and the pituitary gland... the seat of the personality) to my watcher self which is seated in the pineal gland... looking out from an inner deeper position into the wider world or universe... I want to get rid of my current belief system mindset...
Resolution:

I am looking forward to the coming sessions... stay tuned..

S.




Hi All: Little by little the significance of the key symbol in my current belief system crisis is unfolding... the Ashkenazi symbol represents orthodoxy... as a Cancerian conservatism fits well with my underlying belief system structure... (none of these things are known to me directly) I am only becoming aware of them as I continue to attempt to get into the non-physical universe... I have now hit a clear subconscious substrata of belief system barriers that need to breakdown... when you get beyond the Monroevian focus 21 territories... the mind communicates in a non-verbal language... orthodoxy and conservatism cannot understand symbolism, innuendo, subtlety and intuition... they can only grasp objective reality... the focus 21 and above territories are all subjective/objective reality...

The plot thickens.

S.

Outstanding!!! No sooner than I am able to interpret and recognize the meaning of a non-verbal communication something happens:

10/18/2010 – Evening session:

The session progressed very well... energy streaming right side, off buttocks and thigh... well being... a lot of itching around the face... began to use the itching not there technique that seems to work... some fundamental body activity... then in the center of my brain... a shattering of like shale... crumbling off... I think the disintegration of my encrusted belief systems are now beginning to fall apart.

S. 

The next time you're at TMI drive east for 45 minutes and come to my metaphysical bookshop in richmond.

Hi Personality: Not an easy thing to do... I will be there in july for heartlines but, I don't drive... the TMI van pickes us up at the airport and from then on I am in isolation for a week.

S.

10/18/2010 - morning session:

Now I am out-of-body

The Buhlman seminar's after effects... a belief system crisis.

The Ashkenazi belief system shake up. My present belief system crisis began on 10/16/2010 when that session produced a demon in the form of an Ashkenazi Rabbi:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_d4zmqSfE-J8/THG4YPeEdcI/AAAAAAAAFQw/mGui06dRV38/s1600/Chief+Rabbi+Yona+Metzger3.jpg

Since then I have developed a welt on the right side of my head. Came out of a session soaking with sweat and a left side energy streaming effect... and now this dream which suggests I have fears I did not know I had and they are a barrier to moving forward...

Hi All: Little by little the significance of the key symbol in my current belief system crisis is unfolding... the Ashkenazi symbol represents orthodoxy... as a Cancerian conservatism fits well with my underlying belief system structure... (none of these things are known to me directly) I am only becoming aware of them as I continue to attempt to get into the non-physical universe... I have now hit a clear subconscious substrata of belief system barriers that need to breakdown... when you get beyond the Monroevian focus 21 territories... the mind communicates in a non-verbal language... orthodoxy and conservatism cannot understand symbolism, innuendo, subtlety and intuition... they can only grasp objective reality... the focus 21 and above territories are all subjective/objective reality...

The plot thickens.

S.

Hello everyone,

I am very happy to have found a forum that is so lively on the topic of AP. I am relatively new to all of this (just started attempting AP 1 month ago).
Anyway my question was, Is it dangerous to attempt to project out of my physical body without much training in the matter?
I just started reading Robert Bruce's Mastering Astral Projection and they briefly mentioned that in doing so, I can create energy blocks that will hinder my chances of projecting. I started off listening to some binaural beats and focusing on relaxing and feeling the presence of my etheric body. I was able to get to the point where i could feel a slight separation from my physical body, extreme beating of the heart chakra, and vibrations. I didnt practice meditating for 2 weeks or so and now when I try, I either just fall asleep or get to the point where my body is relatively numb (not everywhere however just my leggs and arms   ) but nowhere further. So should I just stick to this 90 day program that Robert Bruce talks about to avoid messing things up?

Sorry for the long question, any feedback at all would be great

I look forward to getting to know you all

-Firmitas

You really can't go wrong with Robert Bruce's 90 days... the primary problem is fear... you probably need to read a lot of experiences of different peopple Slyvan Muldoon  get a feel for what can be encounterd and prepare your mind for understanding that in your astgral form you are invulnerable.


S.

Edited out the massive space at the end of your post.  Xanth

You could probably drop the "now" and it'll have the same "message" on your subconscious, just in fewer words. 

As for what's happening... no idea really.
Trying too hard, perhaps?

Hi X: You may be right.. but Buhlmann says the 'now' keeps you in present time... I do not that as I do the mantra it automatically drops the 'now' and I have to keep adding it on. Not sure what is right... but results will tell over time... this exercise is to be done for a minimum of 30 days.

S.

[The Dream:I am in a kind of warehouse setting with a Hispanic type character who is preparing heroin. I am adamant that I will not partake... he agrees... then suddenly I am overwhelmed by him and a female addict and given a shot... I stumble into the street headed for my Mercedes... in a daze... a big black man comes out of no where and says he wants a ride... I yell, '...get away from me...' I am alarmed I am in a gang neighborhood... he opens the door to the back seat... I scream, '... I]

10/18/2010 - morning session:

Now I am out-of-body

The Buhlman seminar's after effects... a belief system crisis.

The Ashkenazi belief system shake up. My present belief system crisis began on 10/16/2010 when that session produced a demon in the form of an Ashkenazi Rabbi:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_d4zmqSfE-J8/THG4YPeEdcI/AAAAAAAAFQw/mGui06dRV38/s1600/Chief+Rabbi+Yona+Metzger3.jpg

Since then I have developed a welt on the right side of my head. Came out of a session soaking with sweat and a left side energy streaming effect... and now this dream which suggests I have fears I did not know I had and they are a barrier to moving forward...

The Dream:

I am in a kind of warehouse setting with a Hispanic type character who is preparing heroin. I am adamant that I will not partake... he agrees... then suddenly I am overwhelmed by him and a female addict and given a shot... I stumble into the street headed for my Mercedes... in a daze... a big black man comes out of no where and says he wants a ride... I yell, '...get away from me...' I am alarmed I am in a gang neighborhood...  he opens the door to the back seat... I scream, '... I am going to call the police...' I run looking for a phone... I am on a street car track platform... can't find a phone... but realize I have a cell phone... attempt to call 911... Can't do it... numbers won't form... in a panic... wake up...

Interpretation:

In the last few sessions after the Ashkenazi signal some ominous looking beings have been trying to come through I have attempted to allow them to materialize since I know they will dissolve when they are exposed to the light of recognition but they seem elusive and fade back into the ethers as soon as they begin to appear... I think this dream represents lost of control... the heroin represents the non-physical world of stochastic event potential of which I will have to flow with and not necessarily have any control of... my underlying belief system is apparently ...looking for control and predictability...

The big black man... represents my fears... they are want to ride in the back seat and be there as a threat all the time... I don't want that... I want police protection...

This belief system crisis is a problem since I have no answer to its resolution accept to adhere to the concept that... The way out is the way through... perseverance... try to allow everything to come up... I don't know why the dream didn't go lucid... there were so many signals that I was dreaming... that might have helped.

S.

So the answer really is... we can't know for absolute sure... rite?  

I just worry because I don't want to get bad karma messing around with another being's experience.

For example... last night I chased a couple of girls down the street for fun. I scared the pants off them and ran after them making all kinds of rediculous sounds.  

Some people speak of helping others in the OOBE world as they travel to the lower planes to rescue them. But if they aren't real...?  

Hi Shine: I am a novice at this but the people who are "experts" at this [Kepple, Buhlman, Moen , Monroe] seem to have established that the worlds you visit and interact with are real by consencus... they exist as long as someone puts energy into their construction and mantainance.. some one has to decide to dismantle them and put energy into their dissolution.. so they are real if you decide to interact in them.

S

[Now I am out-of-body]

10/17/2010 - morning session:

Now I am out-of-body

My session mantra.

This was a very odd session... I was on the edge of projection all the time... energy was streaming off my left thigh, and mostly left side... I was unable to even imagine the TMI crystal... great pressure in my forehead... I just kept letting go or seem to be letting go... I don't know what could be holding me down that I am not conscious of... but I could not let go any more without evaporating and can feel nothing to let go of yet nothing wants to happen... and I left the session soaking in sweat. And I did none of the my usual exercises.

Any ideas of what is happening here gang.

S.

Pricey! 

Hi X: Yeah but fun and worth it. Even the travel I look forward to. I'm going to Strelesky's focus 12 seminar in Jan in Esalen.

S.

do you live near TMI?  I do.

Hi Personality: No, I do a seminar twice a year... I live in California.

S.

I think it does.  Imagine ten people having this expectation, and the mentality of those who do daily bug sweeps and such- they are unconsciously building psychic security for this place.
That's why (and this is my opinion only) I think remote viewing is better for this type of work- there is no sense of 'going' there, just of 'seeing' what's there.  If only psychological, the difference in intent may make it more effective.

Hi All: Next chance I get I will try to visit 10 Downing st... I think Buckingham Palace palace should be open... Maybe the KBG headquarters at Lubiangka prison... that may require an extra boost of Resident Energy Balloon reinforcement on second thought I am not all that enthusiastic about anything Russian. I think I will stick with happy positive things.

S.

And yes, I have encountered the same phenomenon when trying to go to a new neighbor's house.  So, anywhere where there is the expectation of privacy is probably guarded in some way, it seems to me.

Hi CF: I didn't think of that... as Frank Kepple says there IS an area each individual maintains that is in accessible to any other entity... wonder if there is a relationship between the expectation of privacy and this individual area of privacy.

S.

Next time u can try using Moen's described method (actually TMI's) of Seeing-It-Not-There. Imagine that whatever is in the way is not there.

Hi Pauli: Yes, that is a thought. I know about it but, there are so many things to remember like staying obe... I forgot about that tool.

S.

It's been discussed here before that there are "force fields" preventing access to many federal buildings and such.  I mean on one hand it wouldn't surprise me with all of the remote viewing and psychic espionage the US government has worked at over the years.  It would make sense for them to protect their secrets in that regard.  On the other hand, the reality of a "RTZ" is questionable.  It's much more likely (imo) that it's an astral environment that looks similar to the "real world".  Nevertheless, there could very well be an astral force field in an astral replica of the white house.  maybe it's full of aliens or something who do their work in the astral and put up force fields there.

Hi personality: I was looking to get a corroboration of an experience. But, it would make sense from a Masonic point of view... since G. Washington laid the capitol out based on Masonic geometry. But, the rtz issue is of course part of the overall problem of traveling I just recently broke through in traveling with control... due I think to my recent Buhlman seminar at TMI. But it would be nice to find out someoneelse saw or experienced the same phenomena.

S.

[Alert!!]

Alert!! Has anyone visited the Oval Office o.b.e... can you verify that there is an energy field around it and the white house... I couldn't get in... I was in the Congressional Chamber that was easy.

S.