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OOBE exit from within a dream.
In this dream I am in a building, go down a trap-door standing on a marble topped square pillar or box.
I open the marble top and there is another top that looks like marble but is made of tin. I take that off and peer inside there is some form in there but too dark to see. Suddenly I feel exit vibrations and I am out of my physical body. Feeling trapped I fly straight up out of the trap-door and out of the window of the building I am flying over a couple of fences in normal daylight in the countryside.
I come down to the ground and see a rabbit, stooping down I call him but he carries on eating. A dog comes bounding over barking I send out friendly vibes and he is no problem.
I want to see people and I hear voices, so go in that direction. I see an Arabic-looking woman with two children hurrying along, she doesn't see me. I go further towards voices but then I feel myself softly coming back into my body and I am awake. A short oobe. I have indigestion from the tea and toast so will stop his habit.
note I didn't become lucid just immediate exit from dream also didn't experience etheric zone after the exit, just dark and then up into the astral.
Cheers djed 

Hi Jilt, I couldn't help thinking that I was reading a computer game scenario as I read your description of your AP.
Have you played much computer games? I can see this in many peoples stories of AP experiences.
Cheers, djed

Hi Lizelle, my advice to you is to read as many of the posts on Out-of-Body experiences to get an all round knowledge of what to expect in this subject. With more knowledge of it you will have less fear, which I think is causing these creepy and negative  experiences .
Cheers djed

I was disapointed in the film, didnt see it at a theatre tho. my biggest gripe was the music was louder than the dialogue.
The dialogue was too heavy and all over the place in fact i think it was badly written. I had to watch it at two sittings as I got bored. People are telling me that source code is a better movie.
To be honest I think it was a little over my head lol 

I have vibrations everytime I practice energy raising and Trance meditation but have only had sp a couple of times in relation to OOBE, just before exiting. So I would say no they are not the same at all. Everyone has sp during REM dream phases.

Having finished the 90 day course by Robert Bruce and Brian Mercer, I carried on practicing what I had learnt, energy raising and storing, primary energy centers stimulation and Trance meditation in the afternoons 3pm – 4pm. I am now on my 107 day. I had given up hoping to astral project so had just started to read Stephen LaBerge's 'Lucid Dreaming' and decided I would content myself with lucid dreams which I occasionally still have. This morning I awoke at 4am got up and made myself some tea & toast, read some of 'Lucid Dreaming' and made the suggested affirmation ' next time I'm dreaming, I will remember I am dreaming'  At 5am I lay back for about 10 minutes doing some energy raising etc. Then lay on my side to sleep... don't remember anything else until I feel myself come out of body, I am in the etheric (RealTimeZone).
I say 'I am out' floating in my bedroom and I go on the route I had planned on about 'Day 80' when I was trying to exit. Floating out of my bedroom, down to the basement lounge and see the concrete birdbath which is outside in the garden superimposed on the perception of the lounge, like a 'mind- split'
I am then back in my bedroom and dive out of the window to the street, all this is quite dark, but then as I begin to fly it becomes normal daylight. I am flying over 'bush' (woods/forest) and come down by three young girls aged about 6=8 yrs who are sitting in the grass. There is a guy sitting by, about 30yrs, I guess their father. Being occupied, he doesn't see me, but one of the girls looks straight at me and smiles and tells the other girls. There is no fear in them, just fascination. I leave them and find some other people in their early twenties. I go up to one of the women and just touch her breast there is no reaction from her but the others are humorously fascinated. She says to me' what's your name?' I say I am just a dreamer' I ask her if she has a boyfriend and there is a sort of shock from everyone and quiet and she looks down hearted and sad and I realize I have asked a sensitive question, so with compassion I give her a hug to which she responds gratefully and I leave. I am floating through the bush and hear someone giving a lecture which sounds like archeology of the area. I have difficulty in remembering any more of this section. Now I am flying over a river and see a large trout and decide to dive into the water, it is murky and low visibility. I try to touch the fish but he is too quick, I try to surface but can't find the way up. It is now dark yellowish patterned no movement I try commands, no good, I try spinning round, no good. I call God for help and am out ok.
I decide to go home but see a small girl outside a large house and follow her inside. I see an elderly person half asleep so don't go into that room but hear people talking in another.
There are several women sitting on a couch and armchairs, they look at me fascinated, no fear. I am intending to explain that I am dreaming in the astral, but as I sit down on the couch opposite I softly come back to the physical and wakeup. It is 6.15 am, one of the longest oobe I have had, and this is after 10 years of not being able to.

Cheers djed

New Energy Ways.
Its a book by Robert Bruce

Cool, i am with you, I'll check it out.
Cheers, djed 

blis, I acknowledge and identify with most of what you say in this thread but...

When I first started working on my chakras I would do NEW type techniques like stirring motions on the front part of my chakras

is 'NEW' an abrieviation for something, if so what does it mean?
cheers,djed

Razputin, to get back to your original question... 'Charging chakras'
I have just finished the 'Mastering Astral Projection in 90 days' course, written by R.Bruce and B.Mercer.
The first exercise you are given is to inscribe small circles around the joint at the base of your left thumb with the fingernail of your index finger of the right hand. Do this for a few seconds then close your eyes and carry on making circles, but with your mind, for a minute or so. Then, keeping the eyes closed, just feel the continuing sensations .
This is the basis of feeling and stimulating the prime energy centers. (chakras)
Try it and see.
Cheers, djed 

Quoted by Summerlander .

Erm...this is no proof. Not everything you feel and experience is real. The experience is very much subjective and what you feel could be illusory.

Subjective objective.
Astral projection is subjective,
but because we recognise other peoples' accounts as very similar to our own, it gains an objectivity.
In the same way I recognise others' description of chakras, (or energy centers as called by non-hindu practices), they gain objectivity.
Probably these nerve/energy centers are recognised by medical science, but would need citation for that theory.
Cheers, djed

Someone who sprays you with mace is not acting like a Christian.
Christ is love.

Hi Raz, When we work on chakras it is mostly unblocking or opening the chakra.
Although Rob Bruce has a technique of raising energy by sweeping, with the mind, from the feet to the crown and 'storing' energy in  the sub-naval chakra.
I think there is a difference between physical energy and the 'subtle energies' of the chakras.
It is the 'chi' in Taichi, and the cry a blackbelt judo or karate master will use in a throw, kick or punch.
You would still have to do your physical exercises to cleanse out the toxics from the muscles, but you might change the face of boxing Raz! 
cheers, djed

Root: open (38%)
Sacral: open (38%)
Navel: under-active (6%)
Heart: open (38%)
Throat: open (62%)
Third Eye: open (62%)
Crown: open (44%)
To tell the truth I can't see how this works, as the test is like any other personality test.
Now my personality never really changes from one decade to the next (if ever), but I am sure my chakra balance will change if I do two days on visualising on, say the throat and brow and not to the other chakras. 

Tee, Hi, I have had many OOBE, classic, starting in the bedroom hovering over my body, then sometimes walking outside, going down the road seeing people.
Or other times I would just dive up through the roof and I am in the astral flying over beautiful countryside going to other cities.
Sometimes I have experienced hypnogogic sounds, vibrations so powerful they are, at the same time, painful and pleasurable. Many times I have no vibrations.
I don't know why this is. I have read that the vibes are there always but so fast that we don't perceive them.
One of my theories is that the vibrations are caused by the unblocking of our chakras (energy centers) and as we get clearer of these obstacles we dont get vibrations.
If someone can verify this or knows who has written on this explaining this phenomena I would be interested.
Cheers, djed 

Ah, thanks PR
Cheers, djed

Hi  Ssergiu, welcome, tell us your experiences in the astral...
Cheers, djed 

Could someone show me how to quote a section of somene's post. And is there an area of FAQ 's on the site's usage ?
thanks djed  

This PersonalReality guy... He rocks!
I will endorse most of what he is saying.

Keep it coming Man.
Djed 

My best time used to be about 6am-7am after a good night's sleep. But since I have been practicing Bruce's Trance method at 3pm - 4pm every afternoon, this is my best time now.
So maybe if you keep to the same time and place the body gets used to that?
Cheers. djed 

Classic OBE you can firstly stick around the etheric level and inspect the local area where you live, staying close to the physical but away from your body, walking through walls etc.. It is interesting because things are not quite what you expect there is what has been termed 'fluctuations of reality'. Usually, if I choose to do this, it is not long before I will be caught up by a 'wind' and enter into either the tunnel or the astral levels.
Cheers, djed   

Boom, you are projecting ok, but thinking of trying to see your body is keeping you in the etheral-semi-physical level.
Just forget your body and try and go through the roof and you will be projecting in the astral fully.
Good luck Man!
cheers djed 

Hi Simo, I got this choking experience and I have come to the conclusion that it is the throat chakra that is blocked. I work on clearing it by sweeping with my mind up to it from the feet and keep doing that as a preparation exercise. As a result I did get a better clear feeling.
Good luck, djed 

Yes I agree, you have to meditate morning and evening about 20-30 minutes,and it would be helpful doing some energy raising techniques, but meditation is enough, it will raise energy for projecting and 'flying' lol
djed 

Hi Nickis, can you give an example of a falling exercise?, haven't read about that.
Cheers, djed

Nah Flori, I am a real classical buff, I have an electronic keyboard I seldom play except for accompaniment to my jazz music. I like all the wooden instruments, hehe
cheers, djed