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ImmortalSource,

The one thing I find fascinating is the way you actually have recorded the times down to the very last second. Good stuff.

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You know! Life is tuff on a bloke. We have to try and keep together a very disciplined mind; otherwise we can lose all control of reality.
However Divine made a very good point about balancing your charkas and the holistic affect it can have on your mind, body and spirit.  If you can meditate twice maybe even 3 times a day you will be in more control of your emotions and your way of thinking and your life will undoubtedly change forever, that's a fact!

Personally I have managed to suppress most sexual urges, it takes a bit of practice but it's possible! Remember it's all in the mind.

So Gustavo, this should sort out your little erection problem!

ohh my....... so this is your interpretation of the meaning of life? why we are all here!

Thank-you for sharing that with us.. very interesting indeed.

quote:Originally posted by ady

Congratulations, CptPicard!
That sounds like a giant leap for AP! But wht can you tell about your body sensations, were your eyelids shaking, muscles tense?
When I try to project, these vibrations desturb my relaxation and I can't lie still.

ady,

The whole experience was intense although I wasn't tense! I was relaxed.

I could feel the pulsations/vibrations flowing through my body like huge waves
My eye lids were flickering but I was not uncomfortable in any way!
I felt in a state of attunement, but then this vanished as soon as I started getting excited.

This all happened to me on the 7th June, and since then I haven't had another experience like it

quote:Originally posted by runlola


Your identity here is part of your soul,
why do you think of your own soul as
being separate from yourself?

Once again... it's a theory of mine.

The mind and body is physical, the soul is not!
The mind lives and then it dies, but the soul lives on forever!
Your soul can not learn without the brain! The brain is the physical substance that processes the information and holds your perceived consciousness.
And when the mind dies a copy of your physical conscious is attached to the soul.

However... there's something that'd change my mind. When the time comes for us to pass over to the spirit world and that very second we die does our consciousness that we perceive right now continue as though we never actually died and closed our eyes.

Or will our physical consciousness just die and we remember no more. This is what I'm worried about. That the soul is learning from us and it's the soul that has the copy of our lives experiences and consciousness.

quote:Originally posted by jilola
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The enlightenment experience/self_realization experience show to each one of us personally that we are all one.

Hello jilola,

Your replies make allot of sense and are very uplifting. But a question if I may!
What's the enlightenment experience/self-realization?  
Is this something we realize in the earth-plane or when we cross over?
And is all this just your belief?

quote:Originally posted by runlola


why do you think Dolly doesn't have a soul?
couldn't it have a lower level soul?
do you plants have a soul?
do you think dolly is a robot?

I hope Dolly did have a soul, but It's simply my ignorance questioning my better judgment.

Scientists seem to enjoy playing GOD and can clone a sheep and one day possibly organs and humans.
They haven't considered the spiritual implications involved (the soul)
My first question was, at what point is the soul joined to the human body? When conceived? Or maybe when born?

But what I'm saying is how do we really know our essence, our absolute conscious we currently perceive lives on and that it's not just the copy of our consciousness that departs and evolves for GODS own wisdom.

Maybe there's a spiritual conspiracy, we are being exploited like machines being operated by the soul to grow and learn from us human robots

quote:Originally posted by jilola

What leads you to believe that the "mind consciousness" is anything other than "soul consciousness" filtered through the physical body experiences? And that a body is conscious without the filtered souls/mind consciousness?

Well I surpose the point is..... I don't really know!
It's just a theory of mine I think should be considered and discussed due to our little understanding.

The mind (human brain) is the source to all processing, memory, emotion etc... without it we are simply vegetables and that consciousness we are currently experiencing (right now) is gone forever.
"My apologies to vegetables for they have there own evolution"

So what I propose is the soul entity is attached and learning from within us and once our
Physical body dies the entity departs with its own copy of our consciousness. Just like when we AP (astral project) a copy of us leaves the human body and when it rejoins successfully the experience is downloaded to the human brain so that we have memories of the experience.
But theoretically if the copy had not returned the memory wouldn't exist right?

I don't wish to startup a debate about cloning ethics but a sheep called Dolly has already been cloned, the question is... Did this sheep have a soul?
So when Dolly the sheep died its physical consciousness died and as it more than likely didn't have a soul its existence ceased to exist.
The point of this example is that sheep and or human clones can exist and have a normal consciousness without a soul.

How many people have died and come back? Not many! Although there are some who claim to have had near death experiences.  This could just be a simple illusion created by the human brain, as your Neru Pathways are still functional long after the human heart has stopped. Then miraculously after you've been revived you recall memories even though you were physically pronounced dead.

The theory is plausible; I don't think anyone can actually give me facts as to otherwise.
Strange as it may seem, it's not which I choose to believe but which I fear.

Thx for you advice,
It's going to be difficult concealing my emotions like that, but I'll give it a go.

quote:Originally posted by narfellus


Of course there are hidden dangers in everything. If our children were taught to astrally project at an early age, and if religions faded and were no longer needed, i really would have a hard time imagining what our society would look like. Astronomically different, i can tell you that.

Yes I totally agree with you...  
My personal feelings are that there's too many conflicts in religion because of the differences in beliefs.
If mankind had one belief (Spirituality) wouldn't this world be peaceful.

Of-course spirituality would probably then be divided into different beliefs, so you can't win.

I surpose what I'm trying to say is; if we all just some how knew of our real existence and what we are all spiritually capable of and had help from spiritual guides along our chosen path... then........

but then that's probably the reason why we're here in the first place, to learn from our mistakes and evolve spiritually.

Hello narfellus,

That's a very nice thought.... don't let it go.

I have two children, one 3 years the other 1.
I have been teaching my 3 year old visualisation techniques. I ask him to close his eyes and tell me what he can see...
What's interesting is that he can see stuff in his minds eye and he explains in great detail... Which makes me think that most children are very spiritual and have these abilities naturally when born which slowly fades away as they are not used and recognized in today's society.

There is one big problem here.... "Religion", spirituality is associated with religion...
And we don't know enough or have any scientific facts that the after life exists. People nowadays base there life's on facts and wouldn't want there children being taught something which isn't scientifically proven.


We all need to have faith...

thx guys, I appreciate your replies

Hi Rakon,

That's an interesting experience of your Astral Projection... congrats...
btw your english is fantastic, better than mine and i'm from the UK.

PS.. Good Luck in your exam:)

Huwie, thanks for your reply,

thelou, thank you, that's just what I was looking for!

quote:Originally posted by volcomstone

see, what If I was colour-blind? and my aura is red, but I see it as green?

will I turn into a tomato?fff

lol.... that had me in stitches []

Hello ithilin,

Your Ignorance is laughable, sorry......[]

But what you saw wasn't actually your real aura but the etheric aura which extends about 2 inches from your physical body it relates to the physical condition and health of the physical body.
You can usually see this before you get full auric site.

IT DOES NOT MEAN YOU'RE GOING TO DIE.

Thank-you Babalon, I have been practicing Telekinesis for quite some time now....
And I must say I really like your examples you've given.  My problem is I'm a skeptic and a logical thinker... all the ingredients to failed Telekinesis. However on that note, I'm a very good spiritual healer and I feel energy really well. It's just the thought of moving a physical object without touching it that prevents me from opening my mind and seeing the bigger picture... Physical objects are energy, energy is connected to energy nothing is separate from itself but all interconnects, therefore a PSI wheel is part of me, I just have to move that energy!   Arhhhhh.... Then the dam logic takes over and I have failed again.

I can feel the energy from Power cables and antennas; whether that's energy or just radiation frying my brain I don't really know... but I can feel it.[]

Thanks again and keep up the good work.

I'll keep you updated with my progress

Paul

That's some interesting stuff AlphaOmega, I must agree with you 100%
thank you for sharing it with us. []

Hello Major Tom,

I tried your method last night, but unfortunately I just couldn't resist the temptation to sleep... I was telling myself continiously to stay awake but I had an urge to sleep and rest my mind.... I dont think I have the will power.
I managed to stay awake for about an hour 1/2.

I will give it another go tonight though..

Paul

Just a quick question from me...

In relation to MaDroX question! Does the eye have to be closed or can you sometimes open them.

My question is....... Can you have your eyes open through the whole experience...? The reason I ask this, is because the other day I couldn't sleep, so instead I decided to do some meditation whilst lying in bed so that I could clear my mind from the intention of sleeping. Anyways..... After about 20 minutes of meditation I started feeling quite sleepy but my eyes where wide open staring at the ceiling.  At this point my entire body started feeling vibrations, really heavy vibrations unlike I've ever experienced before.... Could this have been the start of an OBE...?
Unfortunately the vibrations stopped after about 2 minutes... probably because I wondered what the hell was happening to me. I was conscious of the entire experience... and my eyes were open the whole time.

Paul

quote:Originally posted by Risu no Kairu

Well, I know it is possible to affect things physical while in the "real time zone."

Like that one guy with the book... he pinched someone and left a bruise.

Maybe it just requires energy to be focused on somethign to move it?

He focused on pinching. This guy focused on getting a glass of milk.

I'd like to resuggest the penny experiment.

lol, this is starting to sound like the 1990 Film GHOST with Patrick Swayze and Demi Moore, where he was stuck on the earth plane until he found his killer. But he learnt to move physical objects like coins, coke cans etc... hehehe[]

thx clandestino.... that explains things alittle more.

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Hello thelou,

Thx for your reply.... tell me, have you read Astral Dynamics yet?
There was something in there about putting a card on the wall without seeing what it is before you AP. And then once you've astral projected in the RTZ you can check the card and remember it when returning to your body. This is incredibly fascinating....[]

What's it like projecting! does it feel as realistic and look the same as what your feeling and seeing right now, is it as bright???

I will project oneday and remember it I hope...

JAW, I think perhaps your right, I should stick to sitting down in a chair, instead of Practising whilst in bed before sleeping. I can actually meditate better this way, so perhaps I'll OBE better to, and then not suffer from Insomnia when going to bed [8D]

And I didn't try getting up then going back to bed.... I usually just suffer by rolling all around the bed getting angry with myself. "I'll try the falling out of bed approach next time" []