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#76
I'm sorry but I can't resist this one.

If you saw Matrix you might remember Neo's line just before the elevator drops in the shaft with bombs. He said "There is no spoon" or something like that where he refers to the spoon bending capabilities of himself and a little boy earlier in the film.

Obviously the trick is realizing that this is not the ultimate reality and that "you"(your soul) are above this illusionary reality so that you can mold it at will. Of course only  a Jesus figure can completely ignore the illusion and walk on water or be raised from the dead, but who knows what we can manage if we just go beyond ourselves?

Obviously I am ignoring making a direct answer like some sphinx saying that your question shows you do not get it and are looking in the wrong direction.

On the other hand yuri geller was probably just a cheap magician as real adepts don't display such talents for the public on TV. So I would not get obsessed with it because you really believe what he did with the spoons was real.

#77
I think to do justice to this topic you would need to understand quantum mechanics and understand exactly what physical is. Everything is really just vibrations(OM?). Matter is just a slower vibration than an energy particle and somewhere at the bottom of the pile there is a particle that connects to the sea of endless zero point energy(Prana/kundalini???) and transfers that energy over to the physical just as electrons transfer energy in chemical reactions. This would explain how the physical comes from the astral(zero point sea of endless energy). Thoughts would be an astral vibration for example and could create whatever we wanted on the physical if we could tap into enough zero point energy. I was reading on one of the topics all the arguments about levitiation and I think this(any telekinesis) is only possible with huge amounts of energy. We would have to do so much energy work that we practically glow and become some sort of antigravitation device, more energy than matter. The same thing would go for becoming immortal. If anyone is immortal(Babaji from Autobiography of a yogi for example) then he would have to have transferred so much of this zero point energy into each cell that he is practically speaking more astral than physical, like some sort of high tech "solid" hologramm that can never die of course but is really not like us normal mortals in the physical sense anymore.

There is even a guy who sells stuff and offers courses based on his technology to make such particles and charges objects with this zero point energy energy. I bought a headband but did not feel anything as they said I should. That does not mean it is a bunch of nonsense however. I just did not go into it deep enough and  I find energy work with breathing definitely cheaper and easier.
#78
Welcome to Energy Body and The Chakras / Heating
April 27, 2004, 05:02:23
In yoga they say breathing through only the right nostril(sun) makes you hot and brething through only the left nostril(moon) makes you cold. I never tried it but would welcome your "report" on what 10 minutes blocking the one or other nostril with the finger and only breathing through the other one would do. I mean sometimes it gets really hot in summer and this would be useful. I read sometimes stories about these yogis sitting half naked in the snow and it melting under them because they were so hot. I know NEW gets me a little warmed up but hey I cannot run around in shorts in the winter either although that would be a really cool trick.
#79
Shedt,

I just told my son I wanted him to play a game. I think anything else is too heavy and he would not understand it anyway. I just wanted to see if it worked at all.

I was a little bit irritated later thinking how much work I have spent years on yoga, Kriya yoga, meditation,etc. to open up my chakras(I am 39 and doing lots of methods for 9 years now) and how easy and intuitive it can be for a kid who couldn't care less. I think keeping the energy simply flowing during the childhood over to puberty into adulthood would probably keep people balanced and in tune with "god" which belief and feeling we mostly lose at puberty in our rebellious phase. This "god" feeling is probably the feeling of the chakras and the free flowing energy which NEW helps keep going without any big gurus or initiation or anything mysterious, ideological or religious. OBEs and psychic stuff would come naturally only when one( as a child or teenie for example)is in tuned to that personally or did trainiing on purpose.

My father is very similar to my oldest son and I(intuitive, quiet) and I told him on the telephone about NEW technique(he is 80 years old) and how to test it on his Knee by scratching it and he said that he felt it. He told me a long time ago about his spontaneous one time OBE when he was 16 years old and found himself hovering above his bed and looking at his body below him.

I noticed in one of the forums someone mentioned this indigo children stuff. I read one of those books and saw nothing concrete. It seems to be mumbo jumbo new age nonsense to sell more books to the hippie generation as they finally get kids. To me kids are just kids and a lawyer or doctor will see a little future lawyer or doctor in his kids. this seems to be what they are doing in these Indigo Kids books, just seeing what they want, namely future spiritual giants and putting a heavy trip on their kids, which is a bad thing. Just "let it be" is in this case a really serious matter. I know that in Tibet some little guys are declared the 25th incarnation of LAMA X and taken away from their family and raised with monks and such and develop spiritual super powers compared to us mere mortals but lose the natural childhood they would have otherwise had. One really famous Tibetan Lama whose name I forget and was really famous and influential in the West in the 1970s/1980s until his premature death, had this done to him and seemed from all reports I have read to have become a drug addict and very promiscuous, etc. and personally not to have been really happy. I think therefore kids should be allowed to develop at their own pace without pressure. Spirituality should come from our love and example. They will decide for themselves later and their heart and karma(personality structure/horoscope) will lead them in the right way for them when the time has come.

To close off my long answer i would like to say I got kundalini awakening/ chakra opening in 1998 when I was 34. Later I saw from my Indian(Jyotish) horoscope that this was exactly what was supposed to have happened(Moon nodes sub phase=Rahu/Ketu).  Now my oldest son does not have that in his horoscope at all so maybe heavy Kundalini is just not in his future regardless of any pressure I put on him. My youngest son is 2 and a completely choleric type for whom meditation would seem impossible under any circumstances in this life. He has the same "kundalini awakening" phase at 24 in his horoscope as I had at 34. Only God knows and controls, not we.
#80
Welcome to Energy Body and The Chakras / Chakras
April 26, 2004, 08:15:35
The third eye was the first chakra I felt. I was doing yoga and had just learned to pull my foot up from behind to the back of my head in the splits after about three years of doing asanas. I finally felt a little pressure in the middle of my forehead. That was 5 1/2 years ago now. I suppose by doing mantra meditation with prayer beads my heart chakra slowly opened too as I felt(7-8 years ago) a quiet peaceful place in my heart where I could be peaceful and quiet although I was not conscious as I am now of a pressure in the middle of my chest that expands outwards.  

Through NEW practice my chakra sensation has increased even more. Today my 3rd eye had such a direct pressure on it as never before spreading over my head like a cap and over to my arms and legs. When I did the splits and pulled my foot up to the back of my head last week in Asanas and instead of just opening up my heart chakra as before NEW practice through this asana, I could feel the entire string of chakras connecting from top to bottom along my chest. It is a definitive qualitative improvement to before NEW practice.

Unfortunately no psychic abilities up until now. I hope however growth in compassion and understanding for people and myself will come over time. I read over on the forum for spiritual growth people's comments about Gurus and looked up a link on what some bad Gurus had done. I was amazed that such a guru who could control his mental state(deep trance, contol of involuntary organ functions) could be morally reprehensible. It goes to show that we are just learning this enrgy stuff and psychic abilities(OBE) like a bag of tricks or sport and if you master it and can fool people into thinking that that is real spirituality and you are a master then you can really mess them up. Real spirituality comes from the heart.
#81
I tried to teach my 5 year old son, who is pretty quiet and intuitive, the NEW system on the weekend. He just sat there on the floor, eyes closed and I told him where he should feel enegy and so and then I asked if he could feel it and he said always "yeah". I could be uncertain as kids always tell you what you want to hear. But he then stuck out the point of his tongue and said"here too" and pointed to his throat chakera a little later and said "Here too" so I think the stimulation of the arms and legs and so on got his other chakras warmed up so that without prompting he was telling me where he felt tingling. this was all in five or ten minutes before he lost patience and wanted to play. I am not sure if later on people get "blocked" and have to learn to be opened up again as adults or if it is completely individual. At any rate I will try to encourage him to keep feeling his enegy a littly bit at a time consciously but not to overdo it.
#82
I have been doing energy work for some years now and have pretty active kundalini. However I have had problems with how my energy flows. I could get headaches and some pain in around hips and arms. So I did not do any direct energy work for  along time, just yoga and Tai chi to keep what I have flowing. After doing NEW for a week I am very pleased to say that the energy flows perfectly over shoulders into arms very strongly and over hips into legs so that no real headaches can happen due to too much energy or hip burning as before or muscles pains. It just flows off into arms and legs and does not stop anywhere. No blockages. Yoga pranayama that I learned was great for raising kundalini aroung spine and crown chakra but ignored arms and legs to a certain extent. Now maybe I do not have to do any NEW anymore as it works on its own and maybe I should let my nervous system get used to it( sometimemes a bit nervous, depressed now but that is simply getting used to more energy). For example I was lying awake this morning feeling the heavy pressure on my third eye and the energy throbbing over my head and down body and shoulders to fingertips and toes in a complete circuit evenly distributed. Or on friday I sat cross legged on the couch with my hands over one another watching a movie and "meditating"/feeling how my energy circuit was pulsing in a big circle aroung my arms from hand to hand and back up around the shoulders and srongly in my head and throat. It increased as I just sat there for over an hour and I got choked up over sad parts in the film as the energy got to be so much. I think this is absolutely necessary to have as strong a flow in the arms and legs (from NEW) as in the trunk/spine which I got from Kriya yoga. This really helps jumpstart my development where it was seriously stalled a long time.
#83
Nick,

Thanks for the encouragement. I also do Tai Chi regularly and have noticed that sometimes just for fun I do some Tai Chi movements around my apartment spontaneously. This weekend I was doing that and after awhile noticed how my energy increased. Heart Chakra stimulated, etc. I thought why do I get this feeling more when I am not doing the exercise proper but only when I am doing it for fun. I noticed that I concentrate more on the individual movements and tense my muscles as I am not in a hurry to get through and worried about making a mistake with the forms and their sequence. I tried this muscle tensing in my whole normal routine yesterday evening with the assumption that the chi or energy would flow better and I was right(it also worked up a sweat and got my heart pounding a lot quicker than usual).

Now I am still thinking about the NEW technique and how it works. RB reccomends scratching a place to stimulate it. Some people have however written e-mails to the group here that sometimes even that does not work and they are stuck. I would suggest maybe short quick muscle tensing around the chakra additionally to get electrical energy flowing from the muscles. I know this is a basic part of the yoga relaxation at the end of a yoga asana routine where one lies down and tenses all the muscles one after the other to relax them. This has always helped me feel energy flow at the end of a yoga routine. I think the NEW technique could be enhanced by using the muscle tensing technique, especially for beginners. At any rate I feel today after having used the muscle tensing technique during my Tai Chi routine of 15-20 minutes  (instead of just fluidly dancing around without tensed musles) and then having done the NEW technique before going to bed that today the energy flow is clearly deeper into my muscles in the arms and legs than yesterday. I still have no negatives like headaches,etc. so I will keep on experimenting. I had remembered the instructions in my Tai chi book were that it works better when one inmagines a real enemy to fight with. I have just now relaized what that meant. Of course the muscles will be tensed if you have to really fight and block and this will not be just a light dance as I have done until now. That is of course the purpose to get the Chi flowing.

I remember also another reference to muscle tensing technique from Yogananda. Apparently in the 1920s or 1930s Americans were not into Yoga asanas so he had to to find another way to get them fit and invented a technique where they tensed their muscle groups one at a time and this technique was so well developed that his younger brother came to the USA and gave demonstrations of strength using these muscle/energy techniques. I do not know exactly how that worked but I can imagine that a combination of that technique with the NEW technique would be pretty useful to getting energy moving into deeper layers more quickly and effectively.

Any body have experience or want to try this and tell me your results?