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Hello 8bit
The question about astral people being objective beings Or just mental creations (like dream characters) has come up before in many other threads. I really think that the only way to know for sure is to ask that astral person outright.
Personally I would want to know if an astral being Was a real threat Before committing a violent act. Acting rashly and violently can have a way of boomeranging back if you're not careful.

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Grey

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Wow, Lionheart, You and I posted almost the exact same message -- about asking the astral girl questions  -- almost at the exact same time. I'm sure that its probably only a coincidence though this has never happened to me before!!  

Yes, but at that time I was not sure. I never seen a desk in my house before. I have also seen a calculator that shouldn't have been there in one my previous OBEs.

If you see her again, talk to her. Ask her questions, who she is, why she is there, etc. This is one thing that only you can find the answers to.

Will do. You know it's not so bad anymore seeing entities. I remember seeing my first. It was my first OBE ever was so real I couldn't tell the difference. I was turning on lights without even noticing what was going on. Knocking on my parents doors trying to wake them up but they wouldn't answer. Then I went an laid down, feel asleep instantly.

When I meditate on the third eye I see flashes of white, and faces sometimes. What is this?

You need some imput. What is your question?

I don't know about the entity i seen. It was weird when I seen her I sensed sadness. I smiled and waved. I thought it was my friend Lani, her Grand mother resently died. She was in all black in the Astral but, she was wearing white in real life cause she lives in china. I think this part seems like a Lucid Dream to me.

I can't remember if it was Sunday or Monday, but luckily I can recall all my dreams naturally and OBEs. I found my self outside the hall way staring at a girl at the end of the hall. I noticed that she was in all black and she was asian. For some reason she was sitting down in a desk, which shouldn't have been in my house. I just waved to her, because I don't want anyone stalking me in the Astral. Then I found my self in the bathroom and looking at my self in the mirror. Then I said, OMG an OBE! I didn't realize it at first when I seen the entity. It could have been a dream character though. It was all really vivid and in real time. I then thought about the entity in my hall and what I could do to get rid of it. So I said, Kamehameha X3 and blew up the entire bathroom. Then I said back in body and woke up. When I woke up I was paralyzed for second, I was shaking and sweaty. This happens to me almost every time I have an OBE.

Symptoms: When I feel asleep I got the feeling of falling off my bed. My bed would become wavy. I also had a really strong vibration @ 4:00 in the morning. I heard a buzzing noise and started to panic, then I just feel asleep and had an OBE.

Side note: A while ago during meditation I did an exercise that involved imagining my bathroom in great detail. This is probably why I projected there. This would be my 14th experience.

I remember reading about "melding " in one of   Llewellyn's       astral projection books written by Melita Denning and Osborn Phillips .  If I find it I will post an isbn # As popular as this is I am sure there is a lot of info on the net .      desert rat
p.s. http://www.amazon.com/Llewellyn-Practical-Guide-Astral-Projection/dp/0875421814/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1338246458&sr=8-1      
pps not astral sex , but there is also "tantra "

I have done tantra before and I have to say "wow" lol. What is it that your actually doing. I'm just using my root shakra to spread the energy through my body. It gives you orgasms with ejaculation which is weird, but I like it lol. Anyway I had a AP 2 nights ago and I seen this girl in the corner of my hall way. I didn't say anything she was really cute though. She looked sad so that's why I didn't do talk to her or anything.

It all depends on how cleared up your energy channels already, if they are clogged up (eg you eat meat, watch violent films all the time, etc) you won't notice what really happens to you in the physical after u have astral sex and so u may think that nothing happens except u have fun

However if u had cleaned up your energy channels even a little bit, you become very sensitive to even the smallest energy changes within you and outside of you- then you begin to notice exactly what astral sex does to you on a physical level (ie it is as if someone hits you with a shovel across your head, that's how noticeable the effects become)

Rob Monroe said to progress he had to stop having astral sex and his guides helped him by putting him into lower layers where people were dead yet trying to have sex with each other, he said when he saw what was going on all he needed next time to overcome the lust urges was simply to remember that "pile of worms" twisting dead pile of humans trying to f each other

What book was this in? I want to read it. I only read parts of it.

I'm not married and I don't have a gf so I think its the perfect time to explore this. If your married then i wouldn't rec. it

I have tried to tell my sister that it is real but she doesn't believe me. I hope one day it happens to everyone in my family and they'll see who's crazy now. Only my friend believes because he's had it happen to him.

I'm down. I made it to the beaches of Japan before, but I couldn't see anything.

I will. I just did a 25 minute preparation. I just got to raise my kundalini which is the key success to OBEs and AP.

Hello everyone, I have had several OBEs in the past and decided to venture out into the unknown and try Astral Sex. I noticed that there was hardly no books on it and both Robert Monroe and Robert Bruce don't go into detail in this topic. So I've deiced to conduct research in this area. I will keep you updated with the experiences that I have. If you know any good sources please post them here or email me. Feel free to post your own experiences as well. 

P.s I changed my post so it would be more meaningful. 

Good for you, the only way to overcome them is to confront them.
Good Luck and Safe Travels! 

Thanks Lionheart! I will do my best. Idnk maybe it's some hot chick lol. I heard you can do you know what in the astral rofl.

Recently I've been trying to overcome the fear of astral traveling and OBEs. I have them happen to me spontaneously. Two nights Ago I found my self at my college outside of the main hall. I immediately new what was going on, but this was a new experience cause I've never been outside of my house before while AP. I looked around a bit and heard a scary noise. I immediately panicked, and said bonk this. Then I just flew away. The voice kept following me so I just said I had enough, and thought to my self back in body and that was the end of it.

I know that your just suppose to face your fears so I am going to do it tonight. Wish me luck

Nice !! Your well on your way then.
Vibrations however will be distinct and you will be able to tell they're vibrations, your body will actually begin to vibrate slowly, rapidly, or however. But you'll be able to tell. If the hair on your arms is standing up that's from the energy running through your body as you meditate, which is a good sign so you know your energy is flowing freely.

Thanks. Everytime I focus on a chakra I feel the engery flow. And now that you described to me what vibrations are I have had that experience several  times after mediation during. They shake a bit like your on a vibrating chair. Am I correct? One time they where all shaking. It was AMAZING! But scary...

Awesome. I've been meditating for about an hour day for the past 2 or 3 months. I have been getting all kinds of vibrations. That make my arm hair stand. Sometimes I feel them covering my whole body. Is this correct. Are these vibrations?

Hey guys! Well, last night was rather odd. I found my self reading a book. I basically find my astral body doing odd things when my consciousness gets shifted to it. For example: Walking to my car. Which has happened to me. I thought I was sleep walking tell I realized that it was an OBE. Anyway way as I was reading the book I was seeing past lives. 1 I was speaking Japanese to my son. I felt great sorrow during this for some reason. The other one a man was trying to assassinate me. I ended up killing him though. Again felt pain and agony. The third one I started reading a paragraph. I can't remember what the paragraph said, but when I turned the page a piece of the page was missing. I don't understand this. It was rather odd...

There's your problem with not being able to sleep after your meditation. Kundalini work will lead to "bundles" of energy. Try just closing your eyes, relaxing your mind and just "noticing". No expectations, no stress, just relax and enjoy the peace and tranquility. If something else happens, all the better!  
8bit, I had your problem for a while as well. I put so much work and energy into trying to Astral Travel. That I could not turn it off at nighttime, I would close my eyes, but would immediately go into "noticing" mode, which would continue for hours. I then started to talk to myself more and before I go to sleep everynight I say to myself "By my act of will. I RELEASE my focus on my physical body. TAKE ME to your desired destination. SHOW ME what I need to SEE. TEACH ME what I need to LEARN. AWAKEN me in my dreams so I may LEARN from and ENJOY them". Some of these words are capitalized because I see those words spelled in big letters and drifting outwards towards the dark abyss as I am thinking them. This is a fantastic technique of Brain Entrainment that I have used to achieve my goals earlier in life as a salesman.
Good Luck and Safe Travels!  

That's exactly what I did last night. I think I accessed the akashic records. I'm not sure though because it seemed more like a dream. I did have a OBE as well. I found my self floating over my fence. I got a bunch of tingling vibes when I was floating. It was strange. I never found my self outside before. It was pretty cool. I made a post about it. 

Recently I been scared of doing OBEs. I would stay up tell like 3 am ect so they wouldn't happen. I decided to clear my mind and face the fact that I was gonna have a OBE, but for some reason I stayed in the trance state for and hour and 30 min. I don't know what happened. Maybe I feel asleep? Anyway, When I woke up from it I felt like I accessed some huge database of information. It was kind of overwhelming. It felt like going into SOL server and looking up records, and remembering them all. After that I just went to sleep. I had a couple of strange dreams: 1 I was with my cousin and he said he could Astral Project or something along the lines. He was standing up high on a ledge at his house and he feel backwards. I remember seeing his astral form disconnect as he feel.

OBE: I found my self floating above my fence outside, I wasn't completely sure about this, but I thought it was an OBE. I felt some surges of energy pass through me then it ended. This might of been a dream.

Akashic Records: I dreamed that I was a soldier. I was either a lieutenant or a captain. This other guy and I where in some sort of top secret military facility. We both agreed that what they where doing was wrong, and decided to sabotage there plan. I dont know what the plan was, but we had to get some weapons from the weapons cache. As we entered the weapons cache, the alarms went off. Then he told me to grab a weapon, I would assume. I picked up a RPG. I remember being in a area with crates. The troops started to floor in, and the other me fired a rocket at the door. The fighting stopped when someone spoke out and said surrender. Then we both gave up. After that I found my self looking at the two solders who strapped to a chair.  The char had spinning disks around them. i found this rather odd as I watched. The executioner killed the first guy with a shot to the head, then I guess me with 6 shots. He mus of been angry with me. Then it ended.

I think that might of been a dream, but who knows. I felt all the fear, and objects as I held them. It was like I was observing and taking part in the play. 

its no more scary than falling asleep every night and you have been doing that all your life,

i think you need to man up and take the bull by the horns 

:NoY:

Thanks for the advice. I think I will tonight, wish me luck!

The majority of my projections are spontaneous... lucid and astral experiences.
It's been this way for me my entire life.  I don't know how or why.  lol

What you're experiencing doesn't sound like spontaneous projection really... as you seem to have a very good idea that it's going to happen.

There's nothing inherently "scary" about projections... it's all about our perceptions of the unknown that make it scary.  There are a lot of new sensations to feel which can be very strange to new people... along with the fact that you WILL run into spirits/entities during your travels and "some people", for whatever reason, seem to be afraid of "spirits".

What you should do is work on your fears regarding projection.  Beat those, and you'll be free to project as you wish. 

I'm gonna do it, I've only seen 2 spirits so far and it wasn't that bad. It always happens around 11 o clock for me, so i think ill just man up and go to sleep early. Who knows maybe someone wants to show me around lol?

Hey, guys! This is my first post in this section of the forum. I was wondering if any of you have AP spontaneously? I can't even go to sleep tell 3:00am. I don't like AP during the night because I'm a noob, and I get scared easily. Do you got any tips? I know it's going to happen because I feel like a wave of sand is going under neath me. Then if i turn over I begin to feel like I'm falling off my bed. I haven't had any scary or frightening OBEs yet so maybe it's just me imagining things.   

How many of get out of your body if you meditate on it? I do most of the time. I usually know when it's gonna happen because I get a falling sensation as I fall asleep. Sometimes I get no sleep because of this. If I stay up tell 3 am or so It stops. Anyone have this problem? I think I'm just gonna ignore it, and fall asleep. I like doing them during the day, because I'm a chicken excrement lol. I don't like doing it at night.

Sounds like an actual AP experience to me. Though it's hard to say. As for the shaking feeling, I posted on another thread, I have been having vibrations at odd hours. For example, even in the afternoon, while wide awake the feeling can hit me. I am thinking it might be happening a lot lately, because I am new to APing, and have been making regular attempts at it....Some efforts more successful than others, but the vibrations are always strongest once I lay down and begin to relax. Anyway, it's interesting how you picked up on the train tracks near your friends home. Not sure why the kid's seemed threatening or evil, but maybe your friend can tell you more?

Yea he did, he said that they where evil kids. We both thought that this was weird. I meditated on this AP trip before hand, never think it would work. I think its because I wasn't welcomed in house. I tried to Project into his house and not his ROOM. Big difference there. I was invited to go to his room and read a card he put up on a table. I didn't make it that far though. He confirmed everything with me through facebook.

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Hi 8bit, I haven't heard of this happening after OBE. The only time I have experienced body shaking is recently after having a wisdom tooth out. The  doctor said it was trauma the body was feeling.
Not sure if I understood you , did you physically fall whilst in projection?

No I didin't. I turned over a complete 180 degrees. Face first in my pillow and then hit the floor. This was my Astral Body, because when I woke up I was on the bed. I think it was vibrations. I never felt them that strong before, it could have been caused from separation.