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whoops! Sorry, I didn't really read it.  This is better.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A40979-2003Sep20



Negs are extremely magnetic, if you put a magnet near a limb that is severely overtaken by a neg in a child, their fingers/hand literally get drawn like iron fillings to the magnet.

Brahma Rishi Kashyap(one of the creators) had 2 wives, Aditi the boundless who gave birth to the Gods, and Diti (limited) who gave birth to the demons.  Forever they were at war.

Basically it means those with limited consciousness are demonic, the more limited one's conciousness the more demonic in nature one becomes.

Dictators are just that, only they think they are right and noone else.

quote:Originally posted by Inguma

Hey,

I think it is a bit of an oversimplification to say that negs are magnetic in nature. IMO there is a muddling of cause of effect going on here - that is, the energies we are discussing cause magnetic fields (and are probably linked via a two way street to magnetic fields), but are not themselves magnetic in nature. Basically everything we know from experience about such fields is that they cannot exist on their own but require other things to create them, and are themselves only effects.


----- well actually I didn't say they were simply magnetic, I said they had energy and some intelligence, and can be captured, realigned and manipulated.  

Just like humans are an electomagnetic species, so are negs.  Just like humans can be captured and put behind bars as entities, so can negs, iron seems to isolate the species, extraction is another matter.




Myself, I do think that chi and magnetic fields are linked, eg kirlian photography and similar stuff.

Out of interest - the monks in MRI's you mentioned - have you got any links on that? I thought of this experiment ages ago and have been waiting for someone to do it!

http://www.mindandlife.org/current.conf.html

Here is the Tacitus germania on the lineage of germanic tribes verse 2:


Celebrant carminibus antiquis, quod unum apud illos memoriae et annalium genus est, Tuistonem deum terra editum. Ei filium Mannum, originem gentis conditoremque, Manno tris filios adsignant, e quorum nominibus proximi Oceano Ingaevones, medii Herminones, ceteri Istaevones vocentur.

In their ancient songs, their only way of remembering or recording the past they celebrate an earth-born god Tuisto, and his son Mannum, as the origin of their race, as their founders. To Manno they assign three sons, from whose names, they say, the coast tribes are called Ingaevones; those of the interior, Herminones; all the rest, Istaevones.

This is the original Manu from which all other Manu's descended from:

1. The great sages approached Manu, who was seated with a collected mind, and, having duly worshipped him, spoke as follows:

32. Dividing his own body, the Lord became half male and half female; with that (female) he produced Virag.

33. But know me, O most holy among the twice-born, to be the creator of this whole (world), whom that male, Virag, himself produced, having performed austerities.

34. Then I, desiring to produce created beings, performed very difficult austerities, and (thereby) called into existence ten great sages, lords of created beings,

35. Mariki, Atri, Angiras, Pulastya, Pulaha, Kratu, Praketas, Vasishtha, Bhrigu, and Narada.

36. They created seven other Manus possessing great brilliancy.


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As for the Swastika, swasti means well being and it is the symbol of the sun and abundant health and luck.  It is used in worship to protect worshippers from evil forces.  

Even the swastika in reverse cannot be designated as evil.

[!] What's the difference between an albine and an Aryan?

OH ARYAN IMPOSTER (and there have been many):

An Aryan is perfect and they are all descended from the self born body of light and do not need to hide from the sun who's God is one of their ancestors.

Albines are weak mutants.  True Aryans are not allergic to the light of the sun, because they light up the world with their knowledge.  The Indo Aryans are descended directly from the sun and moon and have the most illustrious spiritual lineage of all embodied earth beings.  God likes us the mostest...nyah!nyah!nyah!

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part 1:

Before I begin on how to tell signs of neg possession in children, I thought I should discuss a little about my own situation.  Unfortuneatly, I have a nephew who was diagnosed with autism and ADD quite early in childhood.  Most of my family members had accepted what seemed to be a horrible reality and tried to work hard to teach him to speak, except of course the father who to the end couldn't -- would not accept it.

My nephew's autistic like behavior appeared quite early on at around 2-3 months of his birth, as he appeared oblivious to his surroundings and did not look where we were pointing to.  Unlike other children, his language skills weren't progressing.  He also had the typical behavior of autistic children of repetitively watching things spin around.  However, he was different than other autistic children in being able to see "eye to eye" and showing tremendous amount of love and adoration and interacting with other children, which autistic children were known to lack.

Slowly however, the situation worsened, he started laughing to himself uncontrollably unable to stop.  His mother, without flinching, said immediately, that there was something wrong with his brain -- now I know MOST mothers would think a thousand times before coming to this conclusion about their own children, but not this mother.   As his behavior deteriorated, so did his appetite, he started losing weight, he was constantly getting colds and fevers and he was becoming more and more unmanageable and one could clearly see nervous strain.

The mother kept him up late at night beyond midnight, playing loud music  - claiming he wouldn't sleep without the loud music.  He was getting skinnier, but the mother would say, it's because he's so badly behaved, he doesn't eat and would hand him a fruit.  Many times the mother would refer to the boy as "my enemy's son".  My brother who quietly tolerated this for 5 years, noticed strange smells when he returned from work which he could not explain.  He tolerated it because the woman admitted that whenever they have a fight, she does "things" to the child.  When he demanded to know what, she refused to answer.  He also realized that the boy spoke more and was more well behaved when he was with him and behaved insane when he was with her and demanded to know why.

To our relief, the mother decided to leave permanently for India all of a sudden, just after the 5th birthday of the boy and as we were beginning to get more and more suspicious and intolerant of her behavior, the day of Mother's day this year.  She wanted to take the boy, my brother refused, then she made a "prediction" that the boy would come to her anyway.  After she left, my mother took over, she found the boy completely listless and broken and unlike what the mother said, the boy would sleep without the loud music, completely tired at 9pm.

Right after she left, every Friday and Monday at exactly the same time, around 9pm, he would start having crying fits and running across the room almost as if in pain. He would cry until his voice became completely hoarse, he would drag himself across the floor. He would take a strange breath, start looking at us strangely, his nerves in his legs and arms would start twitching and he would look to us helplessly, it was almost like something else were forcing him to stand up.  He would then jump around the room uncontrollably.  My brother who was meditating for a long time, noticed that when he did a mantra, he calmed down, but didnt make anything of it at that time.

When we took him out, he wouldn't look around at the environment, always looking down oblivious to his surroundings. When he moved to our house, he couldn't even say his own name or speak any sentences, we thought it was definately autism.  He was constantly listless or hyperactive, one day he even climbed on the second floor balcony literally without any consciousness of what might happen had he fallen.

But one night my brother was meditating and literally heard a voice telling him that his wife was a witch.

Noone in my family could believe it, not even my brother.

(to be continued)

Actually I never disagreed with Nita's definition of the left hand path which she states as being "mental".  In fact, anyone well read in the texts would know that my definition is the same as her's just put in a different way.

I simply disagreed on whether the ENTIRE left hand path is black magic.

Again the entire context of the title of the thread as Buddha might say, is incorrect.

To say that one should avoid the left hand path is is like  saying you want to drink milk without the calcium and protein, since calcium and protein strengthen the body and mind --> which might lead to a bigger ego--> which leads to evil.

So please avoid at all costs calcium and protein.[]

"Aryan" means the teutonic indo-european race. I think everyone in europe apart from the arabs and jews are indo-european (but obviously not teutonic as these are the scandinavian/northern european people).
But I'm not sure if this is by indo-european language roots or race (but by race the teutonic is definatley indo-european despite other parts of europe). I think it might have been germanic groups which went into greece, spain and italy originally, and either arabs were already there and they mixed with the germanics or they came later, I don't know, but there are still some purely germanic people in these essentially non-aryan countries.

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well actually europe might be mostly indo-european, but they are not all Aryan.  Only the Germanic tribes are Aryan. They are descended from Mano (Tacitus Germanica)which is the Indo-Aryan Manu, first man, from which derives the word "man", sanskrit/hindi "Manushya"...

In India only some tribes are Aryan, most who claim to be Aryan are actually barbarians who were converts Huns, sakas, non-Aryan Persians.

It is wrong to say that Adam was the first man, Adam is the first  earth person, created on earth.

Semites are the sons of Adam the Golem, (like pinocchio they came to life).  

Indo-Aryans and Germanic tribes are sons of Manu the emperor and first  king to rule over the entire earth.  Aryans are more ancient than semites and more spiritually perfect.

Aryans are celestial and return to the celestial realms to their star ancestors, sons of Adam are earth bound and stay buried until the  
Aryan king returns and resurrects those lazy people.

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quote:Originally posted by boydster

I've never seen the term defined this way before in any literature at all.

Nita's definition is the closest to my understanding of "Left handed path" that I've seen in this thread.

Well the western tradition kind of became quite biased against the left hand path as being automatically evil, left is "sinister"...

The fact that left hand worship meant goddess worship was lost in the west with semitic traditions emphasizing the right hand superiority, but in actuality utilizing secretly the left hand.  Bible states Jesus sat on the right hand of God.

Worship of the "dark Mary" vs. "fair Mary" is basically the left hand path.

Hinduism in particular preserved both paths quite well.  The picture of the half Shiva half kali body of God is what the left hand/right hand means.  Shiva is on the right, shakti is on the left -- THE TWO TOGETHER FORM THE BODY OF GOD.

The very hand greeting of Namaste is uniting the left hand with the right hand, the union of Shiva and Shakti, Yang and yin.

before any discussion is held of who followed the left hand or right hand path, these two paths must be clearly defined.

left hand - shakti(female-goddess)with form -- performance of magic
right hand - shiva (male- god)without form -- wisdom, universal

followers of either path can eventually "fall" or turn to evil, and there is nothing inherently evil about the left hand.

Out of all the recent practitioners, the most right handed was Buddha, he was purely meditational and discouraged all his students from demonstrating any magic - which is left hand.  He was the purest wisdom, as he refused to call himself or allow anyone else to call him God and only wanted to be known as a teacher.  After his death however, the left hand formed a major part of Buddhism.

Christianity - left hand forms (Mother Mary) a major part of his worship, he also liked showing off miracles and working magic which is pure left hand.  He loved being called the son of God or Son of Man by others.

However, most great sages practiced both and ALL great sages were proficient with both.

Well make sure.  You seem to have all the symptoms of a neg manifestation/penetration:

1)tingling sensation at spinal solar plexus -- perhaps where it is attached.
2)really weird dreams
3)head pressure causing lack of focus.  

my brother is a martial artist who meditates too, and he couldn't tell  a neg manifestation until I consciously guided him through the entire thing. I'm one of the "sensitive" types who can feel a whole lot including the meridians you only see in the pictures.

ANY mantra will do, but generally the diety (form) associated with one of the names of the immortal you love and find the dearest makes all the difference.  

Buddha is one of my favorites.

And yes, you really are too focused on the maid.  That means she has more power over you.  just relax and be fearless, with God on your side, everything will come out right.

Well make sure.  You seem to have all the symptoms of a neg manifestation/penetration:

1)tingling sensation at spinal solar plexus -- perhaps where it is attached.
2)really weird dreams
3)head pressure causing lack of focus.  

my brother is a martial artist who meditates too, and he couldn't tell  a neg manifestation until I consciously guided him through the entire thing. I'm one of the "sensitive" types who can feel a whole lot including the meridians you only see in the pictures.

ANY mantra will do, but generally the diety (form) associated with one of the names of the immortal you love and find the dearest makes all the difference.  

Buddha is one of my favorites.

And yes, you really are too focused on the maid.  That means she has more power over you.  just relax and be fearless, with God on your side, everything will come out right.

Hi cprince,

Sorry for the delay in response, but I was wondering if anyone else would respond.

The stuff surrounding your head is the magnetic crap I've beeen telling you about.  You need to be proficient in mantras inorder to clean yourself up.

This means that through your solar plexus the spirit has already entered and is now "setting up" it's own body inside your own and will try a take over through your meridians.

Don't worry, you need to start practicing mantras atleast 3 hours a day, mantras act to clean up...and contact a serious energy healer/acupuncturist, particularly those kung fu warrior master types.

The acupuncturist will know all the major meridians to clear out.

Hi Cprince,

My brother is having the same problem.  Sometimes he smells that awful smell again usually in the bathroom towel that used to be there when the witch wife was living with him and conjuring up demons in the bath tub.  

I told him throw out whatever he had with her, burning it would be better.

Good news is, I think my brother lost 1 neg while running for an hour -- it kind of like flew out of him and he felt lighter -- witches are not very athletic you know -- lazy witches have lazy demons.  Now if your witch runs the marathon, I'd be worried there!

Bad news is I think his wife and mother in law dearest has sent atleast 2 new ones--distance doesn't seem to make the heart grow fonder.

Hi again,

Actually, I don't care much about doctors, except for those who are holistic ones and do understand energy stuff.

There are some researchers doing valuable work on the effects of spiritual excercises on the brain and body using mri's and other scanning methods.

There have been several cases where the mri itself caused therapeutic effects on patients, possibly realigning the energy field of weaker negs.

The problem with healers is, it's hard to find someone who really knows what they are doing and master healers.  But I guess that's a problem with anyone, including doctors.

The reason I'm talking about MRI's and other possible energy machines is because not everyone knows how to meditate, particularly if you have elders and children who might have some neg activity and they don't have the ability to control their mind.  For them and other such spiritual novices, ALL possibilities to heal should be made available.[]

Hello again Cprince,

thanks for the contact.

You are probably right about that maid of yours doing her husbands in.  They generally kill the men if they don't come under their full control -- they are actually the closest things to feminazis around.  They might just kill the men for the heck of it.  ANY time they have a fight they might just as well send a demon after you.  

In that demoness family I mentioned, the grandmother, the queen demon puppet master (she's near 80 supposedly without one gray hair) her husband is well a puppet so she didn't need to kill him.  Her daughter (the mother of my dear sisterdemon-in-law), killed her husband after having 3 sons and 1 daughter.  Right after the daughter was born the husband was dead.  Then the baby was raised in the grandmother's house, trained and demonized from birth until basically they can't be called human anylonger.  She literally felt no pain, never cried. They only have rage, anger and vengeance and these emotions are nourished constantly by the "puppet master" controller demons, the strongest female demon, generally the old hag.  They have virtually no feelings that they killed their own brother/son.  

They generally have a very condescending attitude towards males and think they should be slaves and if you don't comply you die...that is of course only if the males don't find out what they are dealing with.

Every so often men/women find out exactly what they are and they get burned [] LITERALLY!  

And people actually demonize the church for the witch trials!  It's probably likely that the so called "poor innocent women" were witches and not the good kind.

It's actually scary that europe and America no longer have any anti-black magic laws anymore since it's been relegated to superstition and backwardness.

quote:Originally posted by kalratri

quote:Originally posted by Nay

quote:I don't know if your just trying to be funny or just ignorant.  MRI scans have been used on  monks to see the magnetic activity after meditation.

They have been used for the entire body not just the brain.  I have a feeling they can be used to detect neg activities as I can feel there activity quite clearly.

OUCH, actually I wasn't trying to be either..[]  This is why I hate posting anymore..noone ever gets me, well...except James..*smooch*

I was serious..and I didn't know that Monks used it.

*going back to my hole*

My sincerest apologies for coming off a bit arrogant.  Unfortuneatly MRI scans are too expensive, too big for the most part and I'm not sure if they can take real time streaming video or if it's a bunch of frozen frames put together when we actually see the picture...but the technology seems to be improving.

quote:Originally posted by Nay

quote:i'm wondering if anyone suffering with a neg problem had an MRi? did they feel better after having an mri, can a negs be detected using MRi's?

I'm not sure if that would be a valid experiment, because if someone is having a mri, there is something already wrong, and with the brain no doubt.  Are you allowed to have a mri, just cause? [^]

That is what a mri is, a brain scan? []

Nay

I don't know if your just trying to be funny or just ignorant.  MRI scans have been used on  monks to see the magnetic activity after meditation.

They have been used for the entire body not just the brain.  I have a feeling they can be used to detect neg activities as I can feel there activity quite clearly.

quote:Originally posted by Risu no Kairu

So, because you believe one to be a magnetic entity, it makes all of them magnetic in nature?

Yes.  There are only 2 basic "materials" yin (magnetic/cooling) and yang(electric heating) or Shiva and Shakti.  So far the mechanics of negs are quite similar, they are spirits, evil ones.  They are only Yang on their entry into solar plexus or through bruises - you might consider that to be similar to a viral cover - which upon succesful entry the virus loses.  Then they become yin in nature as they try to take over the meridians and take over your nervous system spreading magnetic ectoplasm throughout the body.  Ectoplasm is the stuff that spirits take form from, and it's that psychics generally feel and that is yin.  It's purpose is to destroy your fire and start it's fire. There activities might induce fire type stuff inside of you but it's still yin energy doing the inducing.

They have a force and independant mind, as it is a foreign thoughtform trying to become a part of you.  But it can be isolated, which is why iron is used and is considered successful ALL THE TIME.

Hi Cprince, unfortuneatly you are right, there are very few people on this group who actually have any real experience.    

I have a similar problem, except mine is worse, instead of a maid, the mother of my nephew himself is the perpetrator, not only on her 5 year old son, but my family and her own brothers.  She comes from a black magic demon witch family called "dions" in India, they kill or make into puppets all the males and kill them if they don't succeed in making them into their puppets, including their own children and pass the demon "inheritance" into their daughters who get trained from infancy...they are not human any more, they have no human feelings, for this woman her son is nothing more than a toy, dead or alive - you might as well call her a demon in a woman's body.

We had similar experiences with the foul smell.  And my nephew is suffering terribly, he has been misdiagnosed with autism, because once we break the spell, he becomes normal again.  But they are continually sending demons, or the demons are self replicating and my 5 year old falls into a trance where he can't even remember his own name, sometimes he starts climbing and jumping off from high places without any sense.  it's so bad that we can't even send him to school because of this and we are trying to home school him.

If your friend Angela can help from a distance or if she knows someone who can help in NY, it would be much appreciated.  Finding authentic advanced pratictioners of the spiritual arts is hard indeed and I understand your frustration, but you sure are lucky that you found someone who can trap the demon.

some more plants, the ones that supposedly can send back curses to their sender -- if anyone knows what part to burn to return curses back to sender please do elaborate :

Agrimony: Protection. Used in protection spells and sachets to protect and banish all negative energies and spirits. Also used to reverse hexes, ie; not only breaks hexes but sends them back to the hexer.

Nettle
The protective powers of the nettle have long been used in magic. To remove a curse and send it back, stuff a poppet with nettle, or carry some in a sachet. Also, sprinkle nettle around the house to keep evil out and to send it back. Nettle is also thrown onto a fire to avert danger, held in the hand to ward off ghosts, carried with yarrow to allay fear, and worn as an amulet to keep negativity far away. A pot of freshly cut nettles placed beneath a sickbed will aid in the person's recovery. Nettle has sometimes been used as a lust Inducing herb, and contemporary Mexican spiritualists recommend its use in purification baths because it is 'more carnivorous' than other herbs, and so will work more efficiently.

Wood Betony Protective against evil spirits and disease; burned with Agrimony to reverse jinxes.  



PINE:
Burned for purification, and to banish negative energies, exorcise evil supernatural entities, and attract money, as well as to break hexes and return them to their senders.

quote:Originally posted by runlola



BASIL:


Burned to exorcise and protect against evil entities (such as demons and unfriendly ghosts), and to attract fidelity, love, good luck, sympathy, and wealth. This is also an excellent incense to use when performing love divinations.

DRAGON'S BLOOD:
Burned to dispel negativity, exorcise evil supernatural entities, attract love, and restore male potency. Many Witches also burn dragon's blood for protection when spell casting and invoking. When added to other incenses, dragon's blood makes their magickal powers all the stronger.

FUMITORY:
Burned to exorcise demons, poltergeists, and evil supernatural entities.

GALANGAL:
Burned to break the curses cast by sorcerers.

GINSENG ROOT:
Burned to keep wicked spirits at bay, and for protection against all forms of evil.

JUNIPER:
Burned to stimulate or increase the psychic powers, and also to break curses and hexes cast by evil sorcerers

MINT:
Burned to increase sexual desire, exorcise evil supernatural entities, conjure beneficial spirits, and attract money. Mint incense also possesses strong healing vibrations and protective powers.

MYRRH:
Burned (often with frankincense) for purification, consecration, healing, exorcism, and banishing evil. Myrrh is also aids meditation rituals, and was commonly burned on alters in ancient Egypt as an offering to deities Isis and Ra.

PINE:
Burned for purification, and to banish negative energies, exorcise evil supernatural entities, and attract money, as well as to break hexes and return them to their senders.

SAGE:
Burned for protection against all forms of evil, and to purify sacred spaces and ritual tools, promote wisdom, attract money, and aid in the healing the body, mind, and soul.

SANDALWOOD:
Burned to exorcise demons and evil ghosts, conjure beneficial spirits, and promote spiritual awareness. Sandalwood incense is also used by many Witches in healing rituals and in wish-magick.


VERVAIN:
Burned to exorcise evil supernatural entities.

VETIVERT:
Burned to break curses, and for protection against sorcery (black magick) and thieves.

WISTERIA:
Burned for protection against all forms of evil.

Needed an "end quote" there.
[]- James.

who cares what a bunch of lazy monks say?  Buddha counts, and he said all that was required was immense hard work and effort on your part.  It  is your determination that counts, not one loser monk's opinion.  As far as the Buddha is concerned that negative monk is wasting his time in self doubt and silly debate instead of doing the hard work of cleansing oneself.

I was able to isolate this force using iron "implements"...and magnets.

And I could feel it's every move, how it moves, it's a moving magnetic force with some form of parasitic consciousness since it is a thoughtform, which knows how to bind someone and block certain regions, it's only course is to make you into a puppet while that "THING" is a puppet master.

It tries to control you by accessing and gaining control of your meridians.  Meridians too have been manipulated using magnets since ancient times.

I believe Buddhism provides a nice framework on how to work with ANY religion, particularly the eightfold path which includes RIGHT UNDERSTANDING as well as the morals needed to hopefully not fall to the dark side (although ofcourse Buddhism too had it's share of evil power hungry monks, but than the Dhammapada states clearly that a monk who simply wears a robe and does not practice is no follower of the way.)

Most religions are full of "STUFF", too many institutions and texts for the average person to make sense out of and the priests to abuse, and none provide any framework on where to begin, except for Buddhism which states right from the outset, be nice, use your reason, and meditate hard because only you can free yourself.

Hello all!

Karma is a simple concept.  Karma is indeed the "stuff" you are made of, i.e. matter and it's "unwilled" discharge.  Karma is dependent on mind,matter and senses.  Will is that which is not affected by these.

Ex.  

Karma is when you DON'T get up in the morning because you feel like crap.  That's your own nature and you can't fight it...fate will take it's course.

will is when you get up no matter how crappy you feel.  Will is part discipline and it is this discipline which will allow yourself to change your fate.

However, this does not mean you go AGAINST your nature, in fact, initially you must first know your nature and work with your nature and perform duties (DHARMA) in accordance with your nature...i.e. the Tao the way.  Only after you study and explore your own nature will you be able to perfect yourself.

Hindus believe that what you percieve to be "reality" is virtual...your senses are connected so you think this world is real. But it's your senses which are blocking your true understanding of reality.