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I have a lot of trouble keepin my mind quiet too but heres a little thing to start on just to get an Idea what a quiet mind is like...for example go outside and  stand absolutely still or lay down in bed if you like then  take a breath and hold it while you  listen intently without breathing ...it seems when I begin to breathe again My mind begins to chatter again  I think the trick is to hold the silence longer and longer while softly breathing.
anyway give it a shot. []

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Maybe you should consider that one of the things we are supposed to accomplish is our Link to our higher selves through Obe ?
When I was very little I had the strangest feeling that I had forgotten something really important (I was like 3) it seemed that it was just beyound my ability to grasp.... Have any of you ever had that feeling?

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Howdy All []
Geesh a hundred bucks seems like a lot of dough at least to me does anyone know how we might get it cheeper... maybe a group rate perhaps?

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quote:Robert claims that one can achieve such a state through the sensation of falling. However, I have realized over the years that this merely brings about added complications.

1) I have observed that whenever I lie down, close my eyes, and attempt to allow myself to fall, my point of focus shifts to another angle, or direction. Usually, I attempt to put pressure on my solo-plexus or chest area. I never put pressure at my head area or at any area along my lower torso. Yet, my focus begins to change

Leviiathan
Im not quite sure what you mean by your point of focus shifting... do you mean where your center of awareness originates from ?
Are you tryin to put mental pressure on your solarplexus to create a falling sensation?
The key to the falling technique is to feel the sensation in the pit of your stomach (to reproduce the actual feeling you get while falling) Have you ever jumped off something and felt the sensation it creates in your stomach?

Possibly if you break your questions up into smaller posts I think you will get more help its pretty tough to go through all of your post.

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Hi Patty http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile.gif" border=0>
I know the pain of loosing a child too I lost my youngest child he was only 10 but I can't see any simularity between assimulating the loss of a child and assimulating the experience of meeting what someone would perceive as a god.
Have you ever wondered if what you experience every day was just a vivid dream that we just happen to be really well attuned too?

When I read your posts I keep being reminded of a Movie... Joe versus The Volcano Have you ever seen it? Well at the end when Joe (Tom Hanks) and Meg Ryan (Patrisha) Jump into a Volcano to save the Waponi and instead of dieing miraculously get blown back out and land in the sea while the Volcano blows up and the Island sinks and Joes Luggage pops to the surface to save the day again (they use it as a raft) while sitting ontop of their raft seemingly safe they have a discussion where Joe finds out hes Not really dieing of a brain cloud (Patrisha's Father has set him up to jump into the volcano by using his private doctor to convince Joe that he has this Fatal illness) anyway Joe finds out hes not going to die after all..and All Seems Well they are safe and together on the raft  http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile.gif" border=0> but Joe being the way he is Looks around and says ...Well... we Are out in the middle of nowhere...out in the ocean... stuck on this raft ....And Patrisha says You Know Joe Its Always Gonna be something with You isn't it http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile.gif" border=0> ...Joe says Yeah... I guess so.  I Love this Movie, Does the ending remind you of anything? http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile_wink.gif" border=0>{{{{HUGS}}}}
OH talk about discourgeing  I went to the doc and got some injections that are supposed to help releive some of my back pain, well one of the side affects are I find it really hard to sleep for a couple of days, so thinking Ill put this to good use for obe (I know Im not gonna drift off (heh)so I try energy raising,meditation stimulating energy centers full body circut everything I can think of to start the vibes going but all I accomplish is laying awake all night long ... Gesh!  LOL
Oh Well http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile.gif" border=0>

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Patty,
Observations from the peanut gallery,....
Possably worthless but give it a read anyway http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile_wink.gif" border=0>

You asked if people ever feel like they are out of energy...
Sometimes I do but that seems to translate into "I need to sleep" which usually leads to really cool dreams http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile.gif" border=0> Especially after raising energy.
If I try and force my progress it seems like I just loose ground.
By Reading your posts it seems like maybe you might be trying too hard.
Think Zen -Try without Trying,  I know you said you try to stay rather zen but im not convinced of your sincerety on this matter.
Also you said " I am definitely a 'method' type person. I like to understand the mechanism behind things." And this might just be the problem ..While I value greatly your need to know how things work there is allways time to disect things later Right now what you need is to relax and let things happen  instead of holding them under a microscope, get the roadblock out of the way first.
It just seems to me that maybe you are rather unflexable about your methods. Ask if you are being honest with yourself. "Am I willing to stray from my safe tried and true methods" Even knowing that they arn't working or am I holding on to them stubbornly if so why can't I let them go?
Sometimes in our search for proof we forget to enjoy ourselves along the way.
Anyway I hope this offers some food for thought.

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Tisha
I had read Carlos Castenedas books probably about 15 years ago what are the last books you are refering too I haven't looked for his work in many years the last books I read I think werr  the Eagles Gift and the Fire from Within. I would be greatly interested to know if he has written more.

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jilola
Wanna borrow my FruitCake pan http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile_tongue.gif" border=0>
But seriously it really does open you up to more perceptions and make you more sensitive to the world around you.
Do you do more energy work on your hands and head areas? I seem to still be focusing on stimulating  my feet more than my hands and I am just begining to start working with my primary energy centers.

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jilola
Not yet but I seem to get new sensations each night when I meditate some recent ones are
Slight moments of Dizzyness or a Short Spinning feeling
My hands and Feet felt like they were about two to three times there normal size
oh and while the rocking feeling was happening my Feet and my ankels were tingeling Like they were being mildly shocked.

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kakkarot
It does seem to be like some kind of enhanced energy bounceing but much more than I have been able to acheive by focusing my attention

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jilola
Thats encourging
Ill have to check the local astral body supply for some WD-40 (Astral Body Type) So I can slosh on out one of theese days soon http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile.gif" border=0>

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Heh heh heh http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile.gif" border=0>
jilola
that didn't occur to me at the time I didn't come up with the pan and water analogy till just a lil bit ago but I did try to figure a way to speed up the timeing of the sloshing  (rocking would be another way to describe the feeling but from head to feet not side to side)

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Tom
I have tried some Sitting Meditation but have to sit in a recliner because my back is a disaster http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile_dead.gif" border=0> thats why I usually have to meditate laying down

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Nobody really eats fruitcake  http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile.gif" border=0>
It could be my energy body  I couldn't think of any other way to describe the feeling ...Kind of a shifting back and forth inside. Gone as soon as I lost concentration but I was able to hold the feeling for about 3 or 4 minutes

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Fenris
I havn't tried to see the aura's of people yet. Ill start tryin tho Ill let you know how it comes out http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile_big.gif" border=0>

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Fenris
Thanks for the reply http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile.gif" border=0>
Your discription matches what I see pretty well it can be a area of brightness which extendes around and above the trees. Depending on how I foucus and place my attention it varys greatly in brightness and how far it extends beyond the outter edge of the tree. At first I thought this was after image but the after image moves with my vision when I change where Im looking and the Aura's don't. http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile.gif" border=0>

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Comus
Your obiously not dumb or inept you convey your feelings well. Let me just say that life is a struggle for most of us I know it certanly is for me and it would only make you worse if I told you about my problems http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile_wink.gif" border=0> . As far as people likeing you I just read posts by quite a few people who obiously care. Just know that your not alone.

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Wow what a fantastic experence http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile.gif" border=0>

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It sounds like energy sensations to me. Where do you envision the Rope over your chest ? you might try envinisioning it over your head since the energy sensations seem to be centered there. It might help with the exit

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I was looking at the aura's of the Oak trees around my property. Could someone who is experenced in seeing auras describe what they should look like I have seen something but would like a discription to compare it with.

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What sort of feelings do you have during your meditation?
Well Im fairly new to this and there have been many different feelings. I spend quite a bit of time with new and energy raiseing then I usually begin with my meditation or quieting of my mind allthough the New and energy raiseing usually helps quiet my thoughts quite a bit. Anyway I have experienced many sensations but after energy raising I would say that a slight buzzing im my chest and stomach area (very light) is quite interesting. Im hopeing for more pronounced symptom soon http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile.gif" border=0> But I havn't had any seperation or floating sensations as of yet.


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I just went and read the thread...way cool congratulations are in order. Its great you can finally releive yourself of these things.
You wouldn't happen to be artistic would you? It would be fantastic if you could draw your Dragon for the rest of us to see. I found your written discription very cool.

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By painfull im refering to the stiffness... when this occurs its usually from hours of being perfectly still. it might be nothing more than just that. Its generally really hard to begin to move but things loosen up fairly quickly


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Hey All http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile.gif" border=0> I have a question about sleep paralysis and how it feels. When I lay in bed and meditate sometimes I get a kind of allmost painfull stiffness in my feet legs arms and hands and it is quite difficult to get them to move it feels like they are stuck in very thick tar. Is this what you are discribeing as sleep paralysis? Or is it something entirely different?

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I have seen a few of Johns shows and he seems quite credible to me. He describes what messages he receives as symbolic in nature this reflects what Robert says about a lot of astral communication. John allways ends his shows by saying that mediums arn't necessary and that anyone can receive messages if they will only listen. I tend to lean heavly in his favor.
Does anyone have an opinion on Sylvia Brown?


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