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Yeah actually my previous kung fu teacher actually was taught metaphysics and AP by his old teacher.  And the would also use their energy and what not to get rid of bad spirits and negs.  

I still pretty much taught myself but he used to answer questions I had.  I wish I could find another school that taught that, but oh well.

Whats a NEG?

Well i was kinda tired and mellowed, so my brain was in kind of a silent mode, and then i got the vibrations, i opened my eyes looking to see who was pushing me, then i realized what had happned, and i cosed my eyes and let them take over, then i visualised a rope pulling me down, and whoom, i was out.

Yeah i guess it was unintentional...

I looove listening to japanese music, thats what i was listening to when it happened...

i do have  a few questions though, when you are AP ing and you open your eyes, what happens?

Oh and when i APed my eyelids were twitching like mad! is that normal?!

ok

yeah, thats a spirit

well if anybody would know it would be www.thepsionguild.net/forum

trust me, they know what they are talking about.

if you do sign up tell them NeoSaturn Sent you

hey i'm alowed to b happy!  

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this reminds me of the apocalypse...tidal waves, earthquakes, volcanoes

WOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I DID IT!

i was laying in bved last night and i suddenly got the vibrations so i left my body! and then i cant remember where i went, but i vaguely saw pople kicking, i mean very vaguely.

your eyes twitch a lot when you ap eh?

One punch the guy, thats what i would do...

oh, i agree, its just that i was stating how two of the most important things in my life work together.

nobody cares, do they?

hley crap you guys, if you want to know more about this ask MrBurgo, its his job now...

is anybody else here in any martial arts?

because i am a black belt in taekwondo, and i found tha AP and taekwondo support each other, i mean when you AP you relax, whick you need for martial arts, and martial arts teach discipline, and i meditate to focus.

in my oppinion, they go together like chocolate and bar.  

interesting

hmm...interesting

do you think that everything we make is real (shows, and videogames), like in a parralel dimension?

that coul be true, because every idea for a game or a shouw could be picked up from an alternate world...

do you even have a purpose to ap? besides just exploring the unknown?

jeez its so hard to do it!

what do you do when you start to feel the vibrations?

hmmm... i will keep that in mind, thanks!

well i got the vibrations from relaxing for a while, and the blankets loosening, means that i was going through the bottom of my bed slowly...

I ALMOST DID IT! i got the vibrations and they slowly spread across my body i kept focusing and the blankets on me suddenly got realy loose!

first off, congrats andalai,

second, i dont quite remember how i did my first, nut i was asleep when i did it.
A friend of mine had told me about his, and how he did it in the middle of the night by feeling these vibrations, then focused all of his mind on where he wanted to go, and he lifted out and left.
So i tried it the next night and i got the vibrations and i forgot to do it, so then the next i felt them again in my sleep and i used them to AP.

I think i didi it one other time but i dont know, so anyways...

Ever scince i had that obe, I spent years trying darasticly trying to have one, but it was 100% unsuccessfull.

so i gave up for a year on realy tring and said "if it happenes it happenes" but that didnt work.

so eventualy i thought about concious AP, so i google'd Astral Projection and found this place

i was laying in my bed meditating when i started to feel the vibrations! and seing how i have had an obe before it was easy for me to stay calm and accept it, so i waited and they got stronger.

they were started at my left elbow.

now this would have resulted as a successfull AP, but almost a sonn as this started to happen, my brother and sister started fighting, and broke my concentration.

now i was SOOOOOOOOO close...but now i cant focus because i keep thinking "that could have been IT" nad i cant do it again!

please somebody help me on this!

i dunno, it could, but it was mainly the part of you running with the chick...