Messages

Yeah I heard about what is sleep apnea but I did not (to my own knowledge) experience any other similar problem  (once with what I described in a previous post and the other one happened while I was dreaming  that I was swimming under water....). If it was a recurring problem, I would have gone to the doctor to see  what was the problem. Do sleep paralysis is often associated with sleep apnea?

Take care,

did it feel like you were out of breathe?

Yeah, and it wasn't a pleasant feeling at all.

i would think that you were still breathing just at a very low level like when our bodies go into a deep sleep?

This type of event happened so quickly and I experienced it only once so I can not really tell many things about it. Maybe I was still breathing at a very low level; if yes, I will not panic next time (I will try at least!).

Take care,

I am also a Catholic but  I really don't think that the way it was written was something degrading or offensive. The major problem his how the media is handling this dying process; just like a spectacle. Waiting for him to take his last breath and probably we gonna have some kind of stupid similar ''reality show'' toward ''who will be the next pope'' decision process. Ironically, one month ago, I saw a documentary on the making of the movie of this particular process: the election of the pope. The Church do not need this kind of mediatic representation at all; it is only re-enforcing the bureaucratic stereotypical images that was built throughout time. The Church should be a place were people go each week to remind themselves that love and compassion is the most important thing for you and to the others around you; is it the image represented and how it has been used? Not really.

Thirty seven and a half million children die every year on this planet through lack of the most basic necessities, and most people just shrug thinking well, that's life.

This is one if not the biggest scandal of our modern society. We let this genocide happens every year........ How shameful.

Take care,

but i think the Pope will still give it a miss

Yeah redcatherine, it's hard to imagine the Pope at a Metallica concert going into the moshpit for some action! Me too I don't like moshpits; too many elbows in the face.... Better to boogie on tha dance floor even if its a little bit cheezy.....  

Take care,

For the past months, the pope didn't look healthy at all, he couldn't walk and probably could not feed himself also. Just by looking at him on TV; it seemed so difficult to raise only one of his arm to the crowd. Leaving his body can only be the cure that he will hope for and I'm sure that he will probably like to boogie on API because it must be a long time that he didn't danced since his body was becoming more like a prison for him. Hope that things are better for him now. As for Wingate, maybe there are more important things than trying to predict everything!

Lets try to boogie and be happy everyone,

Take care,

I also had a sleep paralisis and there is one particular case that I didn't like since I had to fight hard to breath; it seems that something came from the right site of my bed and got into me in my face. I tried to move away from it as a reaction but found out that I couldn't do nothing; even breathing. Only after fighting hard, I could take a big and deep breath of air like if I stayed under water for too long. Hopefully, this do not happen too often!

Really really interesting response by Frank, it raises many questions; maybe we do create our own limitations by ''object''tifying everything we do.

Now, I am sure that what Jesus learned through meditation was the knowledge of compassion and goodness, and he tried to get this message across to his audiences.

It seems that he clearly told us that the most important thing is ''To love everyone like I have loved you''.

Take care,

Maybe it may come spontaneously while driving but to purposely do it might be difficult and dangerous. I'm doing the Mastering Astral Projection program and they warn us not to use the presets of the Brainwave Generator while driving since it is causing drowsiness so it is surely the same with trying an OBE. I felt asleep while driving on the highway    once and almost got myself in a car crash but the snow on the side of the road was there to help me; so trying an OBE while driving is probably one of the last thing I will try. But when flying in the plane is much more safe! But you have to be a passenger and not the pilot!  

What is funny is when we are sleep-walking, we have no consciousness of what our body is doing and we can still function properly. Is it possible to wake up out-of-body while we are sleepwalking?

Take care,

but the physical is, to all extents and purposed (and, honestly, there is little to disprove this), infinite, yet we still have reference points. OK so in the absolute sense you cannot specify coordinates since there is infinite on all sides therefore coordinates are impossible, but you can always start somewhere.

Yeah, if you start somewhere (ex: planet earth for the physical or another thing for a specific astral plane), it might be possible to create some type of coordinates and reference points to map the astral (and help others on their OBEs). To create a map of the astral isn't easy to do, you probably need a lot of experience like Robert to do that! I have never been to the astral planes while having an OBE so I really don't know how it looks like. The drawing in the back of  Robert's book Astral Dynamics is one of the only glimpse that I may have of what an astral plane looks like!

Take care,

I think I was not clear enough, sorry.

So, whats the equation for computing the intensity of chi-energy?
How would you calculate the coordinates of your astral location?
How many times higher is the frequency of buddic plane from that of astral?

This is the reason why there are ''limits'', you can't calculate or ''measure'' something if you do not set boundaries. Example: it is impossible to find coordinates if a person is in a infinitely wide astral plane (maybe somebody know if astral planes have some type of boundaries?). Or if God is infinite, how can science prove it with somekind of mathematical formula? You can't really ''measure''  God if he is infinite.

It is more in that sense I meant it; how can we deal with some problems if we adopt the infinity concept at different levels?  Maybe I'm totally off topic and I'm sorry If I have done so!  

Take care,

Math is limited in a sense; you can not calculate everything and this is easily to prove if only you start to play with the number ''infinity''.

Since changes in your life seems to have put some obstacles in your OBEs experiements , you need to vary how you try your OBEs (ex: time of day, sitting instead of lying in bed, etc.). I am presently doing the Mastering Astral Projection program also and they cover many issues that might answer questions that you may have. Like MajorTom says, take a look at the FAQ section of the forum for answers.

Take care,

P.S: Did you know that 1 out of every 5 Americans (male and female included) have a depressive condition of some kind? It's true, and it may shock many of you. As humans, we are masters of hiding emotions from others, and putting up "masks" that aren't the real us. Think about it, the ratio is even higher if the entire world is considered!

Indeed, it is a sad thing to hear Gaarden. There was a program that was talking on this subject but I did not have the time to watch it. A woman was telling how depression was one (if not the most) ''popular illnesses'' around the world. It is true that many hide how they feel to others and many think that anti-depressant pills will solve all their problems. I have experienced myself some of the symptoms of heart palpitations coming from anxiety some times ago and you can get control out of this if you want to; breathing technique and clearing the thougths really helps.

Take care,

Happy Easter to everybody!!

I think what the others have said is right, as you can see, many people here will give you good advices. Life have many good things; look toward it.

For OBEs, there are certain things that will help you with obsessional thoughts pattern. It is true that meditation will help you a lot; you need to get in control of  the habit of how your mind is dragging you in this obsessive state. Since you are reading Astral Dynamics, take a particular attention of the Mind Taming chapter (p.208). You will have to work on the thought control type of exercice; to be aware when you fall in this obsessive state. Basically, to ''catch'' the negative thoughts and push them away or transform it in a positive one if you can. Me also I need to work on this chattering mind; it is like your computer having pop-ups everytimes. Without ''pop-ups'', you can concentrate fully on what you are doing. I know it is ''easier said than done'' but I'm trying to help somehow....

Take care,

I just received the book this week and it looks very interesting. I thought that it would not make sense if nobody had research on blind people from birth and the possibility of ''seeing'' while out of body. To me, scientist might have to look further than their hypothesis of saying that the brain recreate images with certain chemical reactions that is produce during NDEs or OBEs. I totally agree with the author when he criticizes ''scientism'' in the foreword of the book. Science is too dogmatic and extremist and from this scientific materialist perspective; it is not surprising that many people criticize them that they often create ''naive realism'' out of their conclusions; which later, they would have to change many aspects of their studies to say that some things were wrong. Not surprising that science is considered as being culturally constructed and not totally objective: it changes with time (just like culture). I hope that this book will make this kind of study more popular in the years to come; maybe some really nice conclusions will come out of this.

We are fine how we are. If we don't know to live with each other (we create wars with bo reason, let people dye by famine, disease, etc, etc) how could we socialize with aliens which real intentions and objectives are hidden from us?

This is one of the really big problem with this encounter that we will have to face. They may have good intentions but do everyone will think the same? Many might not trust them and this may divide people in two different camps.

The only problem is that it is always presented in a ''spectacular'' kind of fashion. To me, it seems that they have evolved in the technological area, but as for the spiritual, they seemed to forgot about this part (which is presently in this direction we are heading.....). I wonder how they spiritually experience life if you live 500 years or always stay in a spaceship, redundancy will certainly come after some time.

The kind of thing that I do not really appreciate is that they put themselves ''superior'' to us and that we have to learn everything from them. And why should it be aliens that come  to say: ''You have to be compassionate to one another folks''. We all know that we have to do this..... Like you say Kazbadan, we have many spiritual teachers here.

who would want to live with boring aliens?

We can't really say if they are boring but from the mediatic representations that we have; it seems pretty boring: they all look the same, seems to have no personality (or all the same personality), etc.

Probably we can consider ourselves extremely lucky to live on this planet earth and I'm sure that many of them (if they exist ex: intra-terrestials)  will also argue the same. To feel all that nature and life have to offer to us is so great when we think about it.... So many things to learn. But, sadly, we cause so much suffering to ourselves that it might not be wise to add more to other living beings.

I will not scream ''WOW'' if aliens decides to appear, I just question what kind of boring life they live; always stuck in their spaceship cruising around ''I don't know where''. To live a Star Trek kind of live is not what I called more evolved at all. I have also heard that they have supposedly messed up their DNAs because of too many manipulations and this is why they sometimes abduct people, how pathetic.... ''The spirituality of technology'' is not what we need here. But I think if this group have really good intentions; it is the worst time to appear because of the potential problems that it may create. People are are way too divided and not open-minded enough. We live in
Society of the Spectacle (read this folks, it is worth a read).

Love and healing thoughts to your child,

Take care,

yeah VesAn, probably somebody might buy it for 200$!! ('' Haunted Hiking Stick'' for sale).

Burningriver,  do not try too many things because you might damage it.

Oups, sorry Nay,  I was asking Burningriver. Maybe you found somebodies hiking stick on the beach but it may relate to other things also. If it is really serious, ask an expert on the subject; you have nothing to lose on this matter. I know somebody that found an old fossil in a rock on the beach also.

You may be one of the ''greatest'' genuises but commit many stupidities anyway: ignorance is to blame. Intelligence do not make you less ignorant: it is a great tool toward spirituality if it is used accordingly. It may be self-destructive also and this is the reason why some people that are in psychiatric houses have high IQs because they can't function easily in society.

runlola, I went on amazon  to look at the book and bought it and I will read it since it seems interesting.

Thank you and take care,

If you have a digital camera, you could take a picture of it so we can see what really it might be because it is hard to speculate on it only with word descriptions.