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Ok, I'll throw in my two cents here.  First let me preface by saying that even though I have had traditional OBE's & phasing OBE's, I do not profess to be an expert on this.

First, I'll explain the way I see the difference between a traditional OBE and phasing.  For me, a traditional OBE involves the feeling and separation of exiting the physical body, whether this happens by lifting out, rolling out, sitting up, etc.  There is a physical feeling of separation....sometimes accompanied by the famous vibrations......you may feel a strong, magnetic force which also seems to pull at your astral body until you can get far enough away from the physical shell lying nearby.  This to me is the start of a traditional OBE.

Phasing, on the other hand, bypasses all of that.  Instead of going from darkness to vibes to separation, the person sort of FADES from the darkness right into the astral environment.  As an example, you may start to make out a scene or place that slowly comes into view while your eyes are closed.  Simultaneously, the waking physical world fades out and this new world fades IN.....so that within a few seconds, you are fully immersed in this new, three dimensional world.  That is phasing.

As an example, close your eyes right now.  Then slowly start to open them.  The darkness fades away, and your computer monitor starts to fade into view......until finally, your eyes are completely open, and you are aware of everything around you.  Now you can turn your head and look around, and not only do you see, but you feel your astral head turning, your astral body responding to your thoughts, etc.

Contrary to what MajorTom said above, there is no difference between phasing and the traditional OBE EXCEPT for the exit.  When I get out by phasing, once I am in the environment, I feel every bit as awake, alive, and physical as I do when I exit from a traditional OBE.  There is still a sense of an astral body....you aren't simply a point of consciousness.  I have had these point of consciousness projections before, and that is what I have considered to be a mental projection (of the mind)....since there is no sense of a body involved at all in those.

So back to the original question of this post: what is the difference between a WILD (Wake Induced Lucid Dream) and Phasing?  Nothing!

It all depends on your terminology.  I am a simple minded guy.  I like to stick to the basics when it comes to defining things, and basically, if you are having an experience, and you KNOW that you are dreaming, then you're having a lucid dream.  On the other hand, if you KNOW that you are awake, then it's an OBE/Astral Projection.  Period.

The trouble that people get into is that they try to analyze their experience AFTER THEY COME BACK, and this is where they get into trouble.  Why?  Because after you come back, you start using your physical brain to analyze non-physical esperiences, and the physical brain starts trying to be rational for you.

"Well, you were in your bedroom, but you also saw an elephant in your backyard.  So logically, since this is impossible, I conclude that you were having a dream.  But since you were lucid, then this wasn't a *real* experience, but a very lucid dream."

I don't agree with that line of thinking.  If you are consciously aware of things, then that's it. You have your full conscious mind present with you.  There is no such thing as a dream and a non-dream.  You are always operating at various degrees of consciousness.

Dreams are remembered when you come back from being *asleep*.  OBE's/AP's are remembered DURING the experience, WHILE you are *asleep*.  At that very moment, you know that you know that you know that you're awake and having an OBE somewhere else, away from your body.  If any weird imagery or objects occur while having one of these experiences, it could be a reality fluctuation....something that happens when your imagination gets a little more control than you want it to....and it will either create something very real in that environment, or it will interpret something else incorrectly.

I could go on and on about this, but I don't want to bore anyone (plus I am at work and don't want to get in trouble!).  I hope my explanations help someone.

Hello my astral friends....

For those of you who know me, I just want to let you know two things.

1) I am still alive and well, but unfortunately, too busy to come here and post like I used to.  I look forward to coming back as soon as my schedule frees up.

2) I found out recently that I am going to be a daddy for the first time!  It's a very powerful and exciting feeling.  My wife is 3 months pregnant, and the baby is due on November 10th.  If any of you would like to see a picture, I posted the 1st ultrasound on my humor website: http://www.myjokemail.com/content/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=157&cid=4

Other than that, I apologize for not being in here, or responding to many private messages.  Like I said, I hope to return one of these days and devote more time to all of you.

Hey guys,

Some of you probably forgot about me.  Some of you may be wondering who the hell I am.  And some of you wouldn't stop harrassing me until I got my butt back in here (thank you for that, by the way).

Anyway, I haven't been posting here since February due to some personal things in my life.  It first started out with my website getting hacked and taken down at the end of January.  Since it's a very popular site (yes, even more than this beloved forum), it literally took me all of February to get back on my feet.

Thinking that I would come back to the AP Forums right afterwards, I soon found myself overwhelmed with work on my real job.  And like some of you reading this, 99% of all my time spent on this forum was done at work.  Because I am a programmer, when things get busy, I usually have to allocate most of my brain capacity to writing code and not perusing the internet.

So that is where I stand right now.  With work being as busy as it is, as well as some other personal things in my life, I haven't had time to read and respond to the posts like I used to.

I admit, though, that I will occassionally pop in here and lurk in the background.  It's just that sometimes, when I get the inclination to respond to something, I stop myself, because I know that I will not have the time to follow up on people's responses and answer their questions like I want to.

So in conclusion, I just want you to know that I am not "pulling another Frank" on you guys.  I am still around, and those who know how to contact me are able to.  But I just don't have the precious time right now to come here and check out the 100+ posts a day and respond the way I want to, so I just stay in the background until my schedule is more conducive to my desires.

I miss all you guys, and hopefully, I will be back soon.

Check this out guys and gals: http://english.pravda.ru/science/19/94/377/11797_phenomenon.html

[1) YOUR EYES MUST BE ASLEEP]

First off, let me explain some things I can and can't do.

I am no expert on OBE's.  I cannot do these at will (yet).  I don't have all the answers, nor am I above learning from even the most inexperienced projector out there.

With that said, I have been having spontaneous and planned OBE's for the last 5+ years.  I do have at least one every week (sometimes more, sometimes less).  And.....I have seen some characteristics that are COMMON to most of my OBE's.

I would like to share some of those with you now, to help you come to learn what I have learned and HELP you in your attemps.

1) YOUR EYES MUST BE ASLEEP

What do I mean?  In a nutshell, your eyes play a BIG role in the ability to consciously have an OBE.  They themselves must be asleep.  Here is what I mean by that.

Close your eyes right now and leave them closed for about 10 seconds.  Just focus on them behind your closed eyelids and observe their activity.

What you will find a number of things happening.  You will see that they pulsate a little.  Your eyelids twitch.  You will also find that the eyeballs themselves move.  So when you're looking at the blackness behind your eyelids, your PHYSICAL eyes are the ones that are trying to do the looking.  THIS IS NOT WHAT WE WANT.

When I am about to project, one thing I notice is that my PHYSICAL eyes are NOT doing the looking.  I sense the blackness and I "see" things, but my physical eyes are completely asleep.  No pulsating, no movement, nothing.

To really experience this, you will have to remember this post when you wake up in the middle of the night.  The next time you have to get up to go pee or something, when you lay back down, just close your eyes and you will see what I mean.  The physical eyes just sit there behind your eyelids like a zombie.  They aren't seeing or (better yet) LOOKING for anything.

This is one of the steps you need to work towards.  When you lay down to practice having an OBE, spend a lot of time relaxing your eyes.  When you find yourself straining to look at the 3D blackness, catch yourself.  Ask, "Am I using my physical eyes to try and see behind my eyelids, or my astral eyes?"

Once you start perceiving and seeing images without your physical eyes trying to "look" for them, you have accomplished a big step.

2. MIND AWAKE....YES / BODY ASLEEP.....NOT REALLY

Ok, here is a bombshell for most of you OBE students.  We've all read and been told that in order to achieve an OBE, your must reach what has been termed the "mind awake/body asleep" stage, right?

Well, I don't know about you, but I think this has really hindered a lot of people.  Why?  Because they spend all their time and energy trying to put their body asleep that they end up falling asleep themselves!

Have you ever really asked yourself, "What does it mean to have my 'body asleep' anyway?"

After all, your body really doesn't SLEEP, does it?  It simply isn't active.  The heart beats a little slower, the muscles are relaxed, but it certainly isn't sleeping.  It certainly isn't having its own separate dreams, right?

"But Jeff, I think they say your body is asleep because you can't feel it.  You won't be able to sense it so therefore, it's asleep."

Ah HA!  That's where people go wrong.  The reason why you can't feel your body is NOT because of your body, but because of your MIND.  You must condition your MIND to have an OBE.

I believe 95% of you out there who have trouble inducing an OBE fall into this trap.  You spend all of your time focusing on preparing the PHYSICAL BODY for an OBE (which doesn't get to experience it), and less time on preparing your MIND for an OBE (which does get to experience it).

That's like washing your brand new car for your vacation to Disneyland, and then you take the train there instead.

Instead, when you lay down, get comfortable.  Make sure you're relaxed (paying attention to relax your eyes).  Once you relax your eyes, spend ALL of your time working on the MENTAL side of things.

Focus on the blackness behind your eyelids (with non-physical eye muscles).  As your MIND relaxes, the blackness with begin to take on more depth and three-dimensional qualities.

As your MIND continues to relax, these black three dimensional qualities will begin to hold for longer and longer periods of time before fading away.  They will also start to take on color.  

THE KEY IS TO LOCK ONTO ONE OF THESE THINGS AND HOLD ONTO IT.  If you can do that, it usually can suck you right into the astral.  This is also known as PHASING, something Frank was really good at explaining.

While I can't fill his shoes, I hope that this description can give you all a renewed hunger to achieve this state on your own.

3. RELAX YOUR MIND BY FOLLOWING YOUR LINE OF CONSCIOUSNESS

When you close your eyes to go to sleep, by staring straight ahead behind your closed eyelids, you will find that your mind kind of "blanks out", but you don't really become tired.  It's kind of like staring at a wall or something.  It keeps you occupied, but your mind really isn't moving in a downward, relaxed state.

However, if you mentally explore this area, you will see that there is a current, or energy flow that you can lock onto which almost makes you tired, and brings you closer to sleep.

It sounds "out there" and I'm having difficulty explaining it, but its almost like using a key to unlock a door.  If you simply push the key sideways onto the keyslot (aka just closing your eyes and staring straight ahead), this won't accomplish your goal of unlocking the door (aka having a full blown OBE).

However, as you work on turning the key (aka Feeling around mentally for this 'sleep trigger' point), you will find that after a minute or so, the key will slip into the key slot (aka You found the mental state to allow your mind to automatically begin falling asleep).  

Now you can ride that line further and further down by allowing your mind to automatically begin to relax, while you focus on the 3D blackness with your non-physical eye muscles.

Make sense?  In other words, right now, wherever you are sitting, if you were to simply close your eyes at this moment, you would not go to sleep.  However, if you leave them closed and mentally feel around for the right "sleep processing thoughts", your MIND would begin to daydream, begin to wander, and otherwise begin to relax and drift off to sleep. THIS IS WHAT YOU WANT.

Now couple that with the other two points above (by using your non-physical eyes and not worrying about the body), and these are the three MAIN OBE characteristics which can make the difference between an ordinary night's sleep and a wonderful, full-blown projection.

In closing, it is important to STAY POSITIVE.  Mentally tell yourself how EASY this is....that even though you have no idea how to do this, reassure yourself that your MIND already knows what to do, and that you're trusting your own MIND to teach you the steps to reproduce this at will.

With lots of practice and self-introspection, your mind will soon achieve this state of consciousness relatively quickly.

Hope that helps!

Hey guys,

As usual, this is copied directly as I entered it in the OBE Journal program.

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I had two projections this morning, one being my first MENTAL projection.

I was lying on my left side, semi-fetal position, and it was around 4:00am.

I remember reaching out for the scenery in my astral vision.  You see, my vision goes from being pitch black, eventually it becomes 3 dimensional and takes on some depth.....and finally, the depth turns into a scene.

Well, this scene turned into a full color projection where I phased into a room.  The strange part of it was that I didn't have a body!  It was weird.  As I moved around this room, I was consciously aware that I didn't have a body of any kind, unlike all my previous projections where I could feel my astral arms and legs.  This really made things clear to me regarding the differences between an astral and a mental projection.

I didn't know where I was, and it only lasted for about 10 seconds so I can't really describe the room at all.  I just remember being completely aware that my MIND was projected into this place, and that I had no type of body sensation present.....which made me think about my body and thus, ended my experience.

Shortly thereafter, I phased again into the astral, but this time, I was in my astral body.  I phased into the backyard of my childhood home.  I poked my head through the window of my room, and immedietely, I had the feeling that I was looking back in time.  My room appeared to be identical to how it was when I was younger.

I also suddenly felt very powerful and in control...almost as if I started to realize that I was "coming into my own" as far as projections are concerned.  Think of the Matrix part 1, at the end, when Neo gets up after being shot to death, and now sees things in a different light.  I kinda felt like that.

Still looking in my old room, I extended my arms open wide, and floated UP through the ceiling and above the roof of the two story house.  The clarity and realness was amazing, and I felt like I could stay out forever.  I tell you, it never gets tiring to simply fly, or to take a moment and realize that you're indeed out of your body!

I floated down from the roof and stood on the driveway of the house.  I looked up at this tree and said, "I bet I could jump up to the top of that thing."  So with a big jump, I ended up soaring to the top, and almost overshot myself!  I had to grab onto the very top branches to stop my outward momentum!

I then landed again, and suddenly became very bored.  I went over to the tree and said, "You know what?  This is the astral, and I can do some crazy things.  I think I want to take a big bite out of that tree."  Don't ask me why I wanted to do this.  I simply wanted to do something that no one has ever done before, and this was the first thing that popped into my head.

So I walked over to the tree in the front yard (the same one I almost jumped over), went up to its trunk, and took a huge bite out of it.  The chunk peeled off almost like a tender beef jerky, but it didn't have a taste.  I soon started to spit it out with great effort, because my mouth was full of the stuff.

I then walked along the sidewalk, asking aloud, "What the hell am I going to do now?"  I remember contemplating visiting a couple of people on the Astral Pulse forum, but I decided against it at that time.  For whatever reason, I don't know.  I also contemplated visiting a deceased relative, but soon thereafter, I thought of my body and returned.

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Mayan #1: Hey Paco, how's that calendar coming along?

Mayan #2: Dude, you have no idea.  I've been working on this thing nonstop.

Mayan #1: Really?  How long you been calculating that thing?  More than a year?

Mayan #2: More than a year?!  Try TEN YEARS!

Mayan #1: Holy sh*T!  That's a long friggin' time to be working on a calendar man.  How far have you gotten?

Mayan #2: Hmmm, let's see....I'm already in the year 2012.

Mayan #1: DUDE!  2012?!?!  You're f**king crazy!  We'll be long dead by then.  Why the hell did you go so long?  If it were me, I would've stopped after a couple hundred years.

Mayan #2: Well, after my chick broke up with me, I fell into a state of depression, and since I wanted to keep myself busy and not focus on her, I just decided to calculate the future calendar.

Mayan #1: Well dude, I'm just saying, 2012 is a long time from now.  Hell, the world may not even be around that long!  Tell you what.  Let's just stop this stupid calendar nonsense for good and go smoke a joint.

Mayan #2: Yeah, I suppose your right.  F*** this calendar nonsense.  Someone else can just take over for me when 2012 rolls around, right?

Mayan #1: (lights up a joint) Um.....sure, man.  Now take a hit.

And that, my friends, is what really happened.....and mankind has been debating about the eternal war between the heavens and the Earth ever since.

Hey guys....

Just had a pretty cool OBE this morning where I tried to hit a target person in the UK.  I will copy the entire experience here directly from the OBE Journal program.

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Position: Stomach
Time: Between 3:00-4:00am

I had two OBE's tonight, but first, I'll explain what happenend before.  I went to bed around 10:00pm and fell asleep.  Then around 1:30am, I awoke to get water, but couldn't go back to sleep in the bedroom, so I moved to the couch for a little bit.  However, I couldn't get to sleep out there either, so a little after 2:00am, I moved back into the bedroom and fell asleep.

For both OBE's, I transformed them from a dream.  I just remember in one dream, I held out my arm and stared at it, and told myself, "I'm going to OBE now."  I soon felt the familiar rushing/moving feeling, and BOOM!  I phased out of my body.

There was no separation feeling.  Just the feeling of movement as I automatically was moved into the black void.  I immedietely started to shout, "S**** in the UK" over and over.  My voice sounded weird and raspy, as it has in the past when I've tried to shout in this environment.

As soon as I started to say this, I started moving at incredible speeds, only this time, unlike previous times, I never lost my vision!  Normally, when I travelled at this super speed, things would go black and I would become disorientated, but it seems I've finally grown past that phase.

As I was moving, I flew upwards and soon saw billions of stars.   Billions.  My direction of travel was very calculated, and I knew that I was being taken on a specific path.  I sharply went from flying UP to flying sideways, from right to left, and all the stars started scrolling by my field of vision.  I even noted a galaxy (Andromeda?)in the foreground zoom by my eyes.  It was here that I started to feel scared.  Not only did I know that I was super far from my body, but I had no idea where I would end up, or if I would get back.

But alas, I remained calm, and trusted myself to know that everything would be OK.

I then started to fly downwards sharply, and soon, I saw the Earth approaching, and then the ocean, and then a huge island land mass in the shape of the UK.  It's hard to tell which direction I was flying, but it appeared that I was skimming above the EAST side of the island (the side facing Europe).  Where I was at, it appeared very green and then I started seeing large hotels along the edge where the land meets the ocean.  It was also daylight over there, and very bright. Unfortunately, I lost control around this point and I was not able to confirm my target.  I merged back with the physical.

However, it was interesting to note that I maintained vision at the super fast speed of flight, AND I appeared to have made it to the UK.

During my second OBE this morning, I began separating the same way (staring at something from within a dream).....but as I would separate, I would refocus on my body here (because of my wife snoring or moving in bed), and I would experience the consciousness split....I felt my astral body in one place and my physicial body in another, but it always resulted in my astral body reconnecting again.  

I did this a few times, separating and then focusing on my physical body, and it always brought me back with after affects of the visit.

Some other interesting things to note.  Right before projection, it's quiet....then a loud ringing occurs in my ears...then the ringing simultaneously disappears and the numb, buzz feeling engulfs my body.  And as the numb, buzz feeling disappears, I separate.  So if I had to draw it, it would look like this:

Mentally Quiet --> Ringing In Ears (for only a few seconds) --> Fades to Buzzing Vibes (for 5-10 seconds) --> Fades to Separation.

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Hello my fellow astral travellers,

As you know, I have developed a program to help record, track, and analyze your OBE experiences.  I just added two new exciting features to the program:

* Added the feature to analyze how many of your experiences happen when you're alone.  So when you compose a new entry (or edit an existing entry), you can check if you were alone at the time of the experience.  Then, under the analyze part of the program, you can analyze what percentage of projections happened when you were alone.

* Added the ability to allow the program to check if there is a more current version released.  I wanted to do this because many of you using the program may not have the latest version of OBE Journal, which could correct bug fixes or give you more exciting features that you're missing out on.  Now, the program will query the internet and tell you if you need to upgrade.

If you have any questions about anything, please let me know.

Whether you are upgrading from an old version to this new version, or if you want to install OBE Journal for the very first time, just read the instructions here: http://www.obejournal.com/downloads.shtml

I usually don't share my OBE experiences unless I discover something new, or something interesting is learned.  Well, I had one of those experiences this morning which I would like to share with you all.

This is copied directly from the 'OBE Journal' program that you can download here: http://www.obejournal.com

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12/24/03 8:00am

This one was kind of weird, only because it started out real clear, but by the time I got back, it was hard to decipher what really took place.  Again, another sign of short term memory problems in the astral.

First off, I believe this may have taken place from a dream body.  I was in bed (in a dream?), and I wanted to project, so I stared at the wall in front of me.  Even though I was fully conscious at this time, I almost think I was conscious from within a dream, since I don't remember staring at this wall in my real bedroom.

However, this same technique is something I HAVE used from my real physical body to really induce an OBE, so the results and sensations were the same.

My head was probably 2-3 feet away from the wall, but the more I stared and fixated on a specific texture point on the wall itself, the more it was drawn closer to me.  Not only did it seem like the wall got closer, but everything else seemed to fade to black in my vision except for this point.

Then simultaneously, two things happened.  The familiar numbness began to spread from my head downwards, and my astral body began to peel out shortly after that from my head downwards.

I found myself floating slightly above the bed.  Not sure if I was truly out, I did my usual test.  I took my hand and felt the wall I was previously staring at.  It was solid to the touch.  However, with a little push, after some initial tension, my fingertips began to sink into it.  BINGO!  I was out!

I then decided to test a theory that I never thought about before.  They say that when you're having an OBE, the sense of taste and smell are usually absent (or not noticed).  So for some reason, this is what I decided to do.   I took my middle finger and made a hole into the astral wall by pushing it through it.  I then scooped out a chunk of the wall and began to chew it in my mouth.  At first, there really didn't seem to be any taste to it.  Then, a real chalky taste was present in my mouth, almost like chewing on a flavorless flintstone vitamin tablet.

I began to search for some water or something to wash this taste out of my mouth.  The room and layout of the house was different than mine, so I don't know where exactly I was at.  Also, my memory gets a little sketchy from this point.

I remember jumping through a door in the house and appearing in their dark hallway.  Vision wasn't the clearest because of the lack of light, but at the end of the hall, I turned right into a kitchen.  I knew that I could "create" things if I wanted, so I said in godlike fashion, "Let there be light!"  

I expected the entire room to light up in a radiant light, almost like an instantaneous daylight effect or something.  Instead, after my bold demand for light, a single bulb light which was hanging from the cieling flicked itself on.  "Hmmm...not what I was expecting, but definitely better than the dark!"

There was another type of single bulbed light fixture hanging from the cieling which was off, so I simply took my right hand, opened my palm towards it, and said "Light" and it turned on.

I walked over to the sink, turned on the water, and began trying to wash the chalk taste out of my mouth.  I also seem to remember manifesting two aspirin tablets in my hand and trying to take those too.  There was a clock nearby in an appliance, and it said 3-something AM.

Here are some other things which I remember from the experience, although I don't remember the necessary order:

* In this same house, I walked into a bathroom which was being remodelled or something.  The sink was still there, but what used to be a bathtub or shower was all rearranged and under construction.  This threw me offguard, since to my astral mind, I expected this bathroom to be completely intact (as if I lived in this house).  

* I ended up outside looking for "someone", which I think was my parents.  The city was dark, and as I was flying along, I noticed a HUGE *something* in the air.  From my vantage point, it appeared to be a floating CITY, that's how big it was.  It was lit up with white lights in the shape of a multi-tiered triangle....at least this is what it looked like when looking at the face of it.  As it slowly passed by, it took more of a "ship-like" quality to it.  So I don't know if it was a space ship, or a floating city.  I briefly thought about the Bible when it talks about the new Jerusalem coming down from heaven in the Book of Revelations.  However, this was very futuristic looking.

It floated over some high structures to my right, lowered, and landed behind them.  I then glanced around and new that wherever I was, it was either Earth in the future, or some other place.  I didn't get the feeling that this "ship" or "city" was alien in nature...just advanced technology, a biproduct of this futuristic environment that I was in.

I still flew around searching for my parents......I ended up near an airport of somekind, with buses outside and lots of people going to and fro.  However, I never found my parents.

This is all I remember.  I slept alone tonight, since my wife was out of town.  I woke up periodically to get water, but kept going back to sleep without any experiences (until this one).

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Hey guys,

Just had another OBE and thought I would share it with you.  I am pasting this exactly as I wrote it from the OBE Journal:

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I was in a dream where I was at a house with Chris (my best friend) and I went to bed.  While laying down, I started to stare at this one particular image.  It was like nothing else existed but this one image.  The image itself reminded me of a blue electronic pager.

The longer I stared at it, the more I started to feel the vibrations come upon me.  At first, they started in my head, and slowly started to spread downwards to my neck and chest.  I noticed that when I lost concentration on this image, the vibes started to fade away.

I played with this sensation a little bit, knowing that the more I stared at the image, the more the vibes would come.  I willed the vibrations to move throughout my entire body.  As I did this, I thought to myself, "Instead of rolling out as I usually do, let's just try and be lifted out of my body."

So with the vibes in full effect, I felt myself almost automatically be lifted out of my body vertically, much like you would see a vampire vertically rise out of a coffin from a horizontal position to a standing position, in one smooth motion.

Floating above my body in a standing position, I was let down next to it.  The room was dark, and it appeared foreign to me.  It resembled the room I was in while I was dreaming, but it also appeared to be my childhood home.  Many of my projections seem to take me back to my childhood home.

Since things were really dark, I thought to myself, "I need to create some light."  Knowing that when you're projecting, one can control and create things with their mind, I held out both of my hands, palms upward, and willed myself to create to energy balls which would serve as a light source.

As I tried to create them, I saw flashed of light.  Then, it was almost as if my hands themselves emitted light, and wherever I  pointed my palms, it would illuminate the room, much like pointing a flashlight.  So I pointed the light ahead of me and saw a table and chair in what appeared to me a kitchen.

I went to the chair and decided to do some expirements.  As I touched the chair, I verified that it seemed solid at first, but with a little pressure, I was able to pass my hand through the wood.  One thing I noticed though, which I have witnessed in the past.  Whenever I touch things in the astral, IF I am able to pay attention, there is a particular energetic sound that is made.  The only way I can describe it is that it's like the sound of a Star Wars light saber as it's turned out.  The sound of constant energy buzzing.  This is what I would hear when I touched the chair.  However, as soon as I didn't focus on the sound, I was able to pass my hand through the chair easily, as if it wasn't even there.  No sound, no friction, just my hand passing through it as if it wasn't there.  Perhaps I raised my vibrational frequency above that of the chair without knowing it, thus allowing myself to move through it without friction?

I stood up from here, and decided to go up a flight of stairs.  This was just like the layout of my childhood home now.  As I got to the top of the stairs, I looked out the window and saw two people with their backs towards me, at the bottom of the driveway.  The appeared to be near two cars, a black mustang and another older foreign car.  Both cars were on, but these people were out of the cars.

I didn't know what they were doing in front of "my house", so I decided I should investigate.  Not wanting to jump through the window with the window blinds down, I saw a cord and decided to pull them up.  However, they wouldn't stay up, and as soon as I would let go of the cord, they would always slide halfway down again.

"Screw it," I thought.  "I'm jumping through them anyway!"

With that said, I jumped through the window, and suprisingly, I fell pretty fast from the second story house to the concrete below!  I landed on my feet and without any pain, but in the past, when I have jumped from a significant hieght, I either floated like a feather or I landed in a slow, fluid motion.

I appraoched the two people with their backs towards me.  They both had long hair, and I assumed they were female.  "Can I help you guys with anything?" I asked.

They slowly turned around, and one of the people was a male.  I couldn't tell if he was hurt, drunk, or just disorientated.  The female responded, "Not unless you can do something for Joey."  Joey was this guy she was with.

They started to back up away from me,  and I didn't know what else to do, so I returned to my body.

I was laying on my back on the couch, since around 2:00am I left the bedroom.  At 4:22am, my cell phone alarm went off, so I got up to turn it off, and laid back down.  This encounter happened a short time after that.

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Note: I have noticed that holding an image in your field of vision is one of the KEY things to either induce vibrations, or to strengthen your existing projection.  I don't know why this is, but it works everytime for me.  The hard part is actually getting a clear image in your minds eye to stare at.  But once it happens, as long as you're relaxed and not anxious, you can have a wonderful OBE.

Hey there,

I believe one of the keys to projecting at will is not only to have many experiences, but to have the right mindset and understand the difference between the physical senses and the astral senses.

Here is a great article I found which I think has a lot of great points: http://www.soultravel.nu/artiklar/021115-skip_atwater/newdawn-ENG.asp

Hey there everyone,

I just wanted to share with you this life changing lesson I have come to learn.  As we all know, being able to concentrate is a big step in having a conscious OBE.  

With that said, the key to concentration is....oh hey, a bird just landed on my window.....

Hey guys,

Sorry to make this announcement so soon after the 1.00.01 release of the program, but I found a very big bug with the last release that had to do with registration.

If you already have the program, here is what you can do to fix it so it doesn't affect you.  

1) Click this link and unzip the file: http://www.obejournal.com/Files/Journal.zip

2) Unzip the file by right clicking it and extracting it.

3) Put the extracted file (called Journal.exe) in the directory the program is installed in.  This should probably be "C:\Program Files\MyJokeMail.com\OBE Journal\" by default, unless you changed it.

That's it!  If you have any questions, or if you need further help getting this fixed, let me know.  Or you could uninstall the program and re-run the setup file at this link: http://www.obejournal.com/Files/OBEJournal_1_00_01.zip

Hey guys,

I felt that having the OBE Journal program stop all functionality after a 30 day trial was not very nice, so I went ahead and removed some of the restriction on it.

Now, you can use the OBE Journal indefinetely to compose your OBE's, AP's, and Dreams, regardless of how long you have had it.  The only restriction will be the analyze functions, which will be locked after a 30 day trial period.

I just didn't think it was right to not allow people to continue to record their experiences after the 30 day trial period.  That way, even if you choose not to register it, you can still have this great tool for logging and formatting your astral adventures.  

If you do choose to register it in the future, then you will still have all your entries saved and ready for analysis.

For more information or to download the latest copy of the program, go here: http://www.obejournal.com

Hey guys....

For those of you who use this program, I released the official 1.00.00 version today.

You can check it out and download/upgrade it by clicking the link in my signature.  If you have any other questions, let me know.

Hey guys,

I just released the latest version of this program for you all. Many of you are already using it, and this latest version reflects a lot of feedback and features that you requested.

http://www.obejournal.com/downloads.shtml

Here is some of the NEW things it does:

* How would you like to know how many OBE's you've had on a full moon, or any other phase of the moon?  How about other advanced data like knowing which position your body is lying in which has the most success?

Now you can cross reference all kinds of conditional data.  Instead of just knowing which position is best for you, you can now cross reference, like which position was best WHILE taking a nap, etc.

* Added ability to track which OBE's are spontaneous and which are planned.  This way, you can now analyze things like "How many spontaneous OBE's did I have on a Full Moon?" etc.

* Added a new "Lucid Dream" checkbox, so you can keep track of which experiences were Lucid Dreams and analyze data on them.

You can download this latest version here: http://www.obejournal.com/downloads.shtml

For screenshots or other help, click here: http://www.obejournal.com

Hello guys,

For the last 2 years (off and on), I've been designing a program called OBE Journal.  OBE Journal is an advanced journal for OBE's, AP's, and dreams.

http://www.obejournal.com

What does it do?  Not only does it allow you to record your experiences within it, but it will ANALYZE them all and calculate some important data, which I call the OBE Cycle.

I've already offered this program to a couple of people on this board, like Adrian and Gandalf, but now I feel like it's ready to be rolled out to everyone.

I would like all of you to check out the new site I created and let me know if you have ANY questions.  You can download it there as well: http://www.obejournal.com

OBE Journal is still in a BETA development state, but I'm sure you will find the program to be exceptional.  However, should you come up with any bugs, or feature requests, I would like to hear about them on the Tech Support forum: http://www.obejournal.com/Forums.

Again, I've been using this myself for about two years, and it's been such a help to me that I wanted to devote a lot of time into making it available to everyone else.

Hey guys....I am including my latest astral experience for you all to read and check out.

I woke up in the middle of the night, and before moving my body, I thought to myself, "Let's try and OBE."  I was laying in my right side and my body (my arm particularly) felt extremely numb, the same way your leg feels numb when you sit on it too long.

All I had to do was imagine myself getting deeper and deeper in relaxation.  Within seconds, my feet felt like they were melting into the bed, but what was really happening was my astral feet were raising up from my physical body.

I then felt the vibrations sweep over me instantly, and my heart chakra go wild.  I rolled out of the body and stood there in the darkness, holding onto something.  I then said, "I wanna go to the API (Astral Pulse Island)."

I imagined either a pyramid in front of me or the ocean, and soon, I was flying.  Fast at first, and then SUPER FAST.  I couldn't see anything at this point, but I just trusted myself that I would eventually gain eyesight as I got close by.  While speeding by in the darkness, I felt a spray of water come up on my leg, so I thought that perhaps I was getting near the island.

However, it seemed like I was flying forever, and I thought, "Oh no!  I don't want to be flying in this void the entire time and have that be my entire experience!  I need to do something!!"

So while flying in the darkness, I imagined that I was going to land, and sure enough, I started to drop, feet first, to the ground.  When I finally made contact with something solid, still unable to see, I took my hands on the ground and began to imagine that I was picking up sand, just hoping that this would transport me to the island.

It didn't!  My eyesite kicked in and I was in a bedroom.  It looked like the bedroom of my wife's childhood home (although at the time of this experience, I believed it was my own bedroom that I currently sleep in).  It was still really dark in the room, but I decided to turn and see if I could see myself on the bed.  I saw someone's head under the covers, facing the opposite direction, and took it to be my wife.

I then turned and left the room.  On the left was a door which leads to the outside backyard (this door doesn't exist in my house, only in my wife's childhood home).  I didn't question where I was, because I knew I was in the astral and anything is possible.

I took my arms out in front of me and pushed through the wall.  As I walked through it, I smiled, knowing how cool I always find doing that!  Outside, it seemed early morning and there was lots of light and color.  I tried to walk and suddenly, I felt light and wobbly, and I began to fly.

"Hmmm," I thought, "it's much easier to fly I guess."

Still wanting to somehow look for the API, I soared about 15 feet off the ground, trying to see if I was anywhere near a pyramid or the ocean.  I wasn't.  So instead, I decided to glide down the street, looking at the houses and cars below me....hoping that if I saw something that caught my interest, I would swoop down and investigate.

However, I started to lose the experience and I ended up back in my body.  I still need practice in going to a location that I try to target.

Hey guys, this morning I had a projection where I attempted to go to the Astral Pulse Island.  This is kind of long, but it also happens to be the best, clearest, and longest OBE I've ever had since I started 5 years ago.  Here it is, as I wrote it in my journal right after it happened:

I woke up, tossed and turned, and finally (quite easily) thrust my right hand out of my body and into the ground.  I rolled out of my body and discovered that I was floating in the black void.  

"Where do I go?"  Then it hit me....API.  So I imagined the pyramid in front of me, and to help, I visualized a triangle in my field of vision.  Immedietely, I started to fly, slow at first, then extremely fast.  I got a little scared because at one point, I started to drop off downwards at just as fast a pace.

Then, the drop slowed and slowed, and I knew that I was being dropped somewhere.  I imagined my hands scooping up sand, and then my vision kicked in.  The sand slowly faded and I realized I was in a room.  Not unlike my bedroom.  It was daylight, and it looked like Brandi (my wife) was in bed.....although I started to wonder if I was experiencing a past life.  It was hard for me to move, and I sensed I was wounded or something.  I wondered if I had been stabbed in the back and if blood was coming from my mouth.  I crawled a few feet at a time, but it made me feel nautious.  It was tough to maintain my vision, because if I moved my head too fast, I got dizzy.  I even threw up, caught it with my hand, and wiped it on the carpet.

"I wonder if that (vomit) will always be there when I wake up?"  Of course, the carpet and the house didn't really look like mine, but I knew the experience was real anyway, so I questioned if that vomit stain would remain there.

I slowly got up and began to walk.  I entered a kitchen and washed off my hands in a sink.  Then I looked out the big bay like window in the kitchen and saw a beautiful environment.  There was green tropical trees and mountains everywhere.

"I wonder if the island is around here?" I thought.  Everything was crystal clear and even in this projected state, I couldn't believe how awake and aware I was.

I flew through the kitchen window, passing through it's glass, and glided over the landscape.  I noticed a place which "looked" like the astral island, but without the pyramid.  "No, that can't be it" I thought.  I looked to my right and near the side of a large mountain, I saw a huge Pyramid.  "Well, it's not the astral pulse island, but I'm somewhere else with pyramids, so I mind as well explore."

I flew a little further straight ahead and now I began to walk up a hill with semi-tall trees sporadically growing.  I saw a flag on a flag pole that tipped over in front of me.  I noticed the pole looked old and that it needed to be replaced.  However, I bent over, picked up the flag pole, and inserted it back into the ground.

Walking a bit further past this, I saw what appeared to be a large grave.  There wasn't a stone on it, but instead, it was a memorial plaque with dates and pictures.  The name I focused on at the top was something that started with an "O" and even though I could CLEARLY read eveything, as soon as I looked away, it would be very difficult to remember.

For example, I read his name, the year he was born, and the year he died.  Then I would look up and say, "Now what was his name?"  And it would be a struggle to remember!  So I would look back, memorize it again, and do the same quiz.

I thought it said he died in 1101......not sure though, but I know for a fact that I saw 1101.  I also saw something, either 1925 or 9-25, as in September 25 or the year 1925).  I also got the impression that whoever this was died in his 20's or 30's, and appeared to be of upper class descent.  Below this name was another, taking up the most space on the plaque.  I had the feeling it was an older father-type relative of his, but I didn't focus on that, because I knew I had enough to try and remember to bring back as it was.

I noticed that around me, about 50 feet north, there seemed to be dancing going on.  There was also dancing to my left and right, both about 50 feet away.  I decided to fly north and check out some of these people.  I had to remind myself, though, not to let sexual feelings get in the way if I saw a cute girl, because it would ruin the experience.

As I approached one of the dance/party areas, I noticed to my left that some mentally disabled kids in wheelchairs were being escorted somewhere.  I either read or knew from somewhere else that mentally disabled kids (or kids in general for that matter) could have an easier time communicating with non-physical things.  So I decided to approach the kids instead of the group of party goers.

As the kids were wheeling by me in motorized chairs, I said, "Hey there, can you guys hear me?"  They didn't seem to hear me.  However, an older, wise looking gentleman who was standing nearby looked up at me.  He reminded me of Chris Sarandon, and American actor.  He just smiled.

"You...you can hear me?" I asked him.

"Yes." he said.

"Oh!  Well, I just wanted to see if I could talk with the kids to see if they could hear me."

"Well, " he said, "Some of them may not be able to talk right now."

"I know but I wanted to talk to them the same way you and I are talking....telepathically."  Now even though I said this, I was puzzled, because when I talk in a projected state, my mouth always moves, and it feels like I am talking like normal.  I have never not talked with an astral entity and not felt my mouth move, or watched the entities mouth not move.

"So, where am I?  Mexico?" I asked the guy.

"Peru" he answered.

"Ah....I was checking out that grave thing over there.  Who was that?"

The guy/guide began to explain that the guy was a very famous individual who invented things (which he named and I can't remember, but I definitely knew of his accomplishments).  One of the things he invented was something that had to do with the medical field, like discovering a disease or a cure of a disease.  At the time, it all made sense, but jumping out of bed as soon as this happened lost some of the data.

I then remember losing control and once I woke up, I wrote this down.  It was my longest, most clearest experience yet.  I was on my left side like normal, with my hand feeling slightly numb.  I remember before, when I would toss and turn, Brandi (my wife) would occassionally snore and I thought for sure that I would not be able to get to sleep, nor have an OBE.

Seriously folks, am I a bunny rabbit?  Look at my avatar and tell me if you see a rabbit or a real photo?  I have tried to upload my photo avatar three times, and each time, it shows up to me as a cartoon rabbit.  

I wrote to Adrian and he says he sees the photo of me fine.  So is my head up in the astral clouds or do you guys see big floppy ears on me?

Hey there everyone.....

Not sure if most of you remember me but I was a regular poster here in the not too distant past.  Ahhh, the good old days, when I used to see my name amongst the top 10 posters!

I just thought I would fill you in on a couple of things.  One, I'm still alive.  As many of you know, I run a popular humor site called MyJokeMail.com, and that's been keeping me real busy lately.  If it wasn't such a popular site, I would give it up and come here full time!

I'm also getting married in....gulp...seven days.  Many of you may remember the turmoil I was having about whether or not to tell my fiancee about my OBE's.  Well, surprise surprise, I STILL haven't told her anything!  I'm sure I will at some point though.  Here is a recent pic of us though at my 10-year High School reunion:
http://myjokemail.com/JeffBrandiReunion.jpg

In regards to my astral experiences, as most of you have experienced, there seems to be dry spells that come over us.  I was in one for a while, but I think I may be coming out of it now.  A lot of my recent experiences have been about me taking things slow again....not trying to explore, but simply sitting down on the floor, and breathing in the astral air.....You know, just taking in the environment.  Funny how even small little things like that can completely blow your mind when you're "out."

So that's my life in a nutshell.  I miss all of you guys who I used to chat with, and I will try to make an effort to come in here more.  If any of you ever need to reach me, I am always available at jeff@myjokemail.com.  I just find it hard to come here sometimes because I want to spend all my time reading the messages and I never have the time.  Heck, I don't even have time to read my own message board on my own site!

Miss you all.....

Hello everyone......

I know this is off topic, but I thought I would share with you that I proposed to my girlfriend, Brandi, on Friday and she said yes.

Here is a picture of the ring I got her: http://myjokemail.com/DiamondRing.jpg

Even though we've been a couple for almost 3 1/2 years, I have never told her that I have projections (OBE/AP).  I keep telling myself, "Ok, maybe you should do it tonight."  But then the time comes around and the moment isn't right.

I would like to wait until I can do this at will, so I will have better control over these things when I discuss them with her.  Until then, I just keep my mouth shut, even though I feel like she is closed off from a big part of me because of my silence on the subject.  Anyone else feel like that?


Keep smiling,

Jeff Mash
MyJokeMail.com - Jokes and Humor
http://myjokemail.com

I know this is an ASP board, so I don't know if it has this functionality, but my PHP board I run on my site has the ability for a user to click a link which takes you to the last post read.  

For example....if there is a thread with 10 replies, and you've read the first three, by clicking on this link, it will take you to post number four in the thread.  This is a very useful feature on my board, and it saves the user from starting at the beginning of the thread and skimming for the last post read.  Does that make sense?

Anyway, I'm asking because I haven't seen a feature like this here, and if there is one, I'd like to use it.


Keep smiling,

Jeff Mash
MyJokeMail.com - Jokes and Humor
http://myjokemail.com

You know, Frank said something in a previous post which just hit home with me in a very real way.  Basically, there is a fine, THIN line between your imagination and the astral realm.

Check this out.  Many times when we are trying to relax and go through our projection techniques, we are told to imagine doing something (like walking down a long path, climbing up a pyramid, etc.).  When we imagine something, you can feel that it's an OUTWARD thought.  It's something that we ourselves are generating and projecting into our minds eye.  We are consciously aware that we're creating this scene.  

For example, when I close my eyes and imagine myself walking under a tree, I can tell that, no matter how vivid I see the scene, I am in fact creating it.

However, at some point when I'm relaxing and trying to OBE, the images no longer become something I have created.  I can now observe (in a detached way) that the quick, fleeting things I'm seeing aren't being generated by my mind.

For example, I suddenly see a room with a table and an orange on top of it.  This isn't something that I imagined, because I would never THINK to imagine this scene.  So what happened?  Well, what happened was that I was using my imagination at first to help quiet my thoughts and relax my body.  But at some point, that fine, THIN line was intertwined/crossed, and I started getting images that originated elsewhere.  They came IN to me, not OUT from me.

Imagination flows OUT....and anything that you see which seems to come IN to your mind without you thinking about it is probably that 'other end of the channel' from which the astral resides.

That is just my two cents, and what I am coming to realize within myself.


Keep smiling,

Jeff Mash, Founder and Editor
MyJokeMail.com - Jokes and Humor
http://myjokemail.com