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My first OBE occured spontaneously. In fact, I had barely any knowledge that such an ability existed at all.

I woke up one morning in my best explanation where i was not focussed on any one thing in particular. I somehow sensed everything in my bedroom and saw it all at once in a silvery haze. Not in perfect detail but enough to recognise that a set of draws was a set of draws. How I saw the world in this state of being is up for debate amongst all projetors. The crux of this experience for me was the feeling that I was out of my body. This laid a foundation for the concept of astral projection.

My second experience was again spontaneous. This time I could see 360 degrees which, at the time, I did not fully comprehend. I was staring at my little brother who was at my bedroom door and then I fell quickly back into my body and opened my eyes staring directly at him.

Now hopefully what I have so far said has laid a conceptual foundation for you as my first experiences did for me.

Since astral projection can occur spontaneously as well as consciously, it can be explained that conscious projection is gaining some control over an entirely natural process. One need merely look into the vast degree of literature and observe the millions of claims worldwide of projection to see that the "delusion" assumption is entirely false. Or at least, incomplete. Astral Projection is a very real, and NATURAL process.

You'll notice that everyone has their own preferred way of exit. It is obvious in our expression of OBE'S how subjective they are. For some people exit may take a month, 2 weeks or 5 minutes. Whatever method you decide to put into action is not guaranteed to be the one that will assist you in a successful exit the fastest. What is certain however, is that if you put no methods into action your chances of projection will fall dramatically. Just keep trying.

I hope this helps.

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When you are really tired, your astral body will automatically loosen from you physical body. This is no grounds to believe that you can CONCIOUSLY control the astral form however. In fact, I'd say that when you fall asleep you will be so tired that conscious projection will be close to impossible IMO.

I had insomnia a few years back and slept around 8 hours a week. I had never projected before and didn't during the disease.

I have felt extremely loose when I am very tired before but never actually projected. Any other experiences with this case?

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Anything that is "painful" during an OBE attempt should be stopped and posted on these forums. The specific pain is most appropriate as more people will then be able to help you. Until that time though, keep experimenting.

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Current researchers believe it all happens in our heads and that it is subjective.

Contemporary quantum physics is implying that our subjectivity, collectively and individually, IS reality. That it comes from within us.

It seems that ultimately, our deepest fear will be realized. Consequently, forcing us to be liberated from our immaturity and accept ultimate responsibility.

(Maturity and enlightenment in my mind are equivalent.)

There is a scientific known as Parapsychology. You might enjoy studies done in the field

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It is our inherent nature to be afraid of the unfamiliar. What you are experiencing is entirely NORMAL. Control will come with more epxerience, as with riding a bike.

Fear is a powerful force. Through overcoming that which we are afraid of, we learn to rise above fear. To ultimately accept death, is ironically where we learn to truly appreciate life.

Aphorism: "I have more to gain than lose. Take the leap."

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It's amazing how the face of OBE's have changed over time. These days everyone seems to be looking for supplements, brain generators etc anything that will speed up the process.

bravesfanwill - You do not need any audio files to help you project. There is more than enough information, and no-hows on these forums to get you out. I'd recommend getting out independently first.

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If you are having trouble trying to project wtih your hands on your chest, take them off.

The best method to assist in projection is rehearsal. You mind has different parts of memory. For example you have procedural memory which remembers things like walking, riding a bike, projection etc. Also parts of your memory that remember information about yourself, such as your name, family etc. You are probably familiar with cases where people remember their names but still remember elementary skills such as walking (there are more types and subsections of memory but I'll be focussing on precedural at the moment.) Keep practicing exit techniques as you have in the past. This will store the exit procedure in your long-term subconscious memory, making it A LOT easier to project.

Reiki energy and astral projection are two different processes. During projection, your hands and feet draw in ambient energy that provides your energy body with the adequate amount needed to generate the projected-double. In Reiki practices, the energy is going the other way.

Basically what I'm saying is to separate your projection and Reiki practices.

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http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/10/03/news/nuke.php

Is this evidence to support uneasing tension amongst the countrys? What are your thoughts on this? Related to the Mayan calendar and just generally.

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All good. As I said this is probably of more use to experienced projectors. I don't regret using it. If you are doing a reseach study it's definitely essential to have accurate results. Good luck with it. I'll be one of the ones the reads the article more than likely.

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The akashic records is where every thought, action etc in our dimension is recorded. It often appears as a library to people because it is the way we are willing to comprehend it. We have instant access to them as a higher being would.

Spirits do not control our memory. Possibly assist in storing it although I doubt that as well. Psychology provides a lot of evidence that would dispute that. At least enough to say that our brains to majority of the rememberring.

There are no antennas in the brain. Spirits do not control our memories. Higher beings exist in a world above space and time. They do not remember they simply know. They have no memory. As one day, neither will you.

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Wouldn't you consider that intuition. I have the same experience, except it occurs more often in daily life as well as in meditation. I think it's intuition. Intuition being the mediator between the higher-self and me now.

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It monitors your HR/BP behind the scenes as the game progresses.

http://www.wilddivine.com/WildDivineAboutBiofeedback/

Check out those graphs.

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I think if the concern of this issue grows strong enough there will be an independent inquiry instead of just speculation. Something that is a little more conclusive surely would have to be undertaken. September 11, IMO, has worked more in the favor of America than Alqaeda. I'm sure they are losing more men and are no where near as confident in victory as an army funded by tax dollars of an entire country.

Why would someone believe that bombing America is in no way going to provoke an attack? Isn't the whole reason they are taking such extreme measures because we "invade" their country for no reason? I mean they are not targetting people in Antarctica are they. This isn't some extermination of all who do not believe in Ulla. So what is giving us a reason going to do? Out matched in strategy, weaponry and finance... what the hell are these people thinking anyway? Trying to sneak explosives onto a plain after a huge increase in airport security after 9/11!?

Whatever the truth is, I don't know which is harder to believe. The fact that a government would ever commit such a crime against it's own, or the stupidity of these terrorists.

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This change in consciousness is clear in todays world. Quantum physics is already steering towards that direction. There will be a revolution in consciousness in our lifetimes. Regardless of whether the Mayans are correct about timing or not. Seeings how as Adrian said, they have been so accurate in the past I am left with no other option in which to steer my viewpoint

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The nature of the dream and likewise an OBE is a key variable. If you monitor the heart rate of an unexperienced projector during projection and then upon re-entry, the acceleration of the heart rate accelerates quite dramatically. Generally speaking. The same is true with dreams, exciting dreams (including nightmares) can cause increase heart rate of the dreamer.

There are not exstensive 'studies' as such, done at all with OBE's. The true nature of an OBE is not observable. Monitoring bodily changes only proves that there are definite changes in the body. Seeings how all exits are subjective this creates a big problem in drawing conclusions to aspects of projection. Higher realms - different vibrational states/frequencies? In above each other? Sub-planes etc etc. However our oppinions only go so far. What we are really searching for can never be satisfied by an oppinion. We are all scientific to a certain extent and spritual to another. Balance is the key.

Not meaning to sound rude, but what specifically are you looking for in this program? What is your interest with it? I have no objection, just so I can direct my answers a little more specifically.

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My heart resting heart rate normally is approx 54bpm. During an OBE it went down to around 46 - 44. So it does lower significantly. I've heard rumours Bruce Lee got his down to 12 and 20. I seriously doubt this but I haven't looked into it.

BP, for me, was something that wasn't really effected by OBE. Heart rate was more the dependent variable.

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NO you learn from your past lives and things you forgot in this life already. Your higher self. You learn from entities that have a connection with your interests. Because you attract like beings.

Could you explain the interactions between higher self, entities and like beings. As simple as possible.

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At the beginning you will not be able to comprehend. Simply because it's a new experience (Seeing in 360 degrees). However think of it as being the same as your normal vision. Right now you are focussed on computer screen. Everything around it seems like a blur, so to speak. 360 degree is not much different except there is more blur with potential to be looked at.

The mind cannot handle the astral dimension at all. As I've stated earlier: Your mind is not capable of speeds over 24 frames per second and cannot handle analyzing the astral realm while you are out. It does not come a long for the ride. You mind begins to interpret and analyse the experience once you re-enter.

The vision can be difficult to understand in the early stages. Simply because it's new. You'll get used it.

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Check out this technique I posted in a different thread. It was the reason I came to be a projector. It was given to me to cure insomnia, and I ended up waking up one morning out of my body. It will help with meditation as well.

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/index.php?topic=24600.0

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A perfect world is an ideaology. Focussing on the way we think the world should be is ignorant to the way the world actually is. IMO, a perfect world would be boring. This all depending on what we mean by a "perfect world". Let's just agree on a universal definition to save ourselves from a trivial debate.

Seeings how nothing, or no one is perfect and this is our reality, wouldn't imperfection ironically make something perfect? Make it complete, whole?

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IMO, the term "Out of Body Experience" is the most generic term used. As our understanding of OBE's grows, we need to redefine the terminology. There is a difference between AP and EP and all OBE's should not be called AP's.

The growth of projectors these days would indicate a future science of OBE's. Respected by the majority of the scientific community. The problem lies in observation. I don't think we are all suffering from mass hysteria.

We are the pioneers. Be proud.

I believe that OBE's to any higher level of existance is a reflection of consciousness. Where consciousness is reflected into the astral/etheric/mental etc planes. Enabling us to recall the experience upon re-entry. Quantum physics has recently discovered that an object can exist in two places at the same time. How this happens has to do with resonating frequencies. For example your computer monitor has it's own frequency. For it to exist in a different place it would just be another manifestation of the same frequency. This may be a little confusing. I think consciousness, or our point of awareness, reflects itself on a higher planes. Every plane/dimension are complementary to each other.

This viewpoint stems from our subjective nature. The point of view of the individual observer is always different. Different way of saying the same thing really. For example, if I look at my dog (IMO) I see something different than you would. Physically we see the same thing, but the way we interpret it is different. Concepts of ownership, sentimental value etc. If this idea is then applied to everything I look at, then in reality I am staring at myself projected out onto the world.

I care no more for the success of my words than is agreeable to truth.

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Vibrations differ in people. While people interpret them subjectively, in essence I believe them to be virtually the same with everyone. The differences can arise in the flow of energy. I've dealt with people in the past before who IMO have blocked energy systems. Their vibrations were generally more uncomfortable than those who had healthier systems. My vibrations are not uncomfortable at all. When you experience vibrations, you will be very inclined to focus on the vibrations. Ignore them, they are just a sign you projected double is being generated/prepared to exit.

Vibrations will be at their maximum the moment before exit. You will know when you are experiencing vibrations. They are quite noticable.

Have you ever experienced vibrations before? Where are you in projection attempts?

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Definately sounds to me like an Astral Wind experience. I think we see the symbolic imagery in a way we ourselves are able to understand at some level. Subjectively. This is the reflecting nature of consciousness.

I'm not sure why we are shown some of these things. Perhaps the signify a turning point in our life?

Is this problem still persisting or have things improved?

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The way you progress through the different stages is by, in laymans, relaxing more and more. Slowing down mental activity. There is more than one version of the program as well. Last time I heard anything related there was two. It can measure everything you mentioned. The actual device is well overdue however. Meaning that while it can record your physical status during projection, the information is largely irrelevant. IMO. You cannot really go over the results and go "this is where I need to improve". That has to be done through exit techniques, energy development and persistence.

Your heart rate does slow down somewhat during projection. I've read case studies on projectors that are smokers (nicotine), and their heart rates generally didn't slow down as much as those who weren't. The main variable being discussed here is physical fitness. It is not essential for projection. I find a light jog several times a week slows my HR down. I think it assists in projection, but is certainly not vital.

The machine will basically tell you, (not in words) that while projecting your body is running at it's minimum. I'm guessing this is because you projected double is using the energy.

Would I recommend buying it? For people trying to learn how to protect and reading this thread, understand that you do not need this program to project. I would say it is of more interest to experienced projectors anyhow. Your physical body operates differently when you project. You can use this program once. See what happens. Then have no use for the program. Perhaps use it to see what happens when you are seriously fatigued, drunk, wide awake etc. By attempting to exit while your physical body is in different states may come up with different results. I only did it when I was wide awake. It was around 3 in the afternoon.

IMO, it's not worth the investment. I would say it's mostly suited to people beginning a spiritual journey. Projectors can use it as a tool yes. It will measure your HR and BP.

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Just so you know what to expect?

Expect wonders beyond your imagination. Expect your whole perception of the world to change during and after the experience.  Most importantly, expect nothing at all.

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