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I think a lot of nightmares are neg created/influences - especially repeating ones. I have had a couple of dreams relatively recently, one in which I think it was an astral snake attacking me, resting its head on my lap in the dream and when I woke up I had a sharp pain in my upper right thigh, like it was biting me there. Since about then I have had trouble raising energy past that point, and have some real nasty blokages built up in the area. It has got to the point where I can barely raise any energy at all .
I think the reason for these things is to build up core images in your mind, so treating with CIR is a good plan. Once the images have taken root, they have a handle on you and can suck out yout energy, on way or another.
Zugzug what have you experienced? and Andy, that sounds really really scary. Have your CIRed the memories? If so, did you notice and interesting physical, mental and/or energy effects?

Hey
Schizophrenia is quite a umbrella for a wide range of disorders. Personally I see the mind as having a semi-permeable membrane seperating the conscious and the subconscious. In schizophrenia this memebrane seems to become much more permeable, in that the conscious mind picks up lots of psychic and sub-conscious impressions, but cannot particularly comprehend them or relate them into the real world. I have a friend (old pot smoking buddy...) who went schizo about a year or so ago, he carried on trying to balance a pint against the edge of a 2 pence coin when I saw him last, ended up quite wet..... Very confused, he realised at a background level that something was very, very wrong but he could not really comprehend or understand it, only bustle along with little control. This is why people who go that way are told to focus on the physical world, their job and life etc because this pulls them back down to the normal everyday person way of living, ignoring the states which they really connot handle. It is very sad to see though, still.

Mobius!

When you have only one ultimate God you can get around the idea of "who created that God" by saying simply that time does not exist at the highest dimension where He/She/It seems to dwell. To try and assign a gender, yeah thats a human concept. Such a being would be so far from the normal human concept of consciousness we have really no chance of comprehending it. I think that saying He is just a usefulness, you can as well say She but the masculine side of humanity has been in dominance for most of the last 2000 years, so it would figure from this male perspective that God is great and over all others and therefore a He.

I have never heard of that scientific experiment, it sounds quite amazing though! Have you got any links to it? I would love to read more about it.

Oh yeah, the Genesis bits where it says "we" created. Did you also know that in the original hebrew there are many different names for God - but these are not used in the english translations. The we which genesis refers to are the Elohim, vast spirit being who are suppose to be the builders of God, creators, I think. God created the universe, and once you have a universe full of consciousness ready to do your bidding, all that's needed is the Word and they do the creating for "him"....

Lastly, the idea of multiple Gods, well I think at least a few of them are created by humanity. And God is so, so vast, it makes just as much sense to pray to the one God like Islam as it does to pray to a certain aspects of God represented symbolically like Hindus do. Whether these aspects enjoy a seperate identity to the one God, well maybe they do, but I think again these fleshy minds of ours start to fail at times like this. Duality, like an electron can be a particle and a wave, perhaps like Krishna can be seperate from God and still in mind and heart part of the One? Although we are all part of the one, only on the physical dimention, so maybe dieties are the same only on a higher level and so encompassing "more" of God? I dunno, just guessing

ps Do pagans have a female God as the highest? I know almost nothing here but am guessing they are much closer in touch with mother earth than the male dominated religions, like (old?) Catholicism.

Winged Wolf,
I have also heard that many poltergiests are likely caused by children going through puberty. This could be seen in a similar way to what you were saying - like a human psi having an epileptic fit (lol). What I was thinking is that it may be more complex that this, in that what the above suggest is that there is lots of free energy going around. It could well be that this energy is picked up by negs, then used to create poltergiest phenomenon, which then create more energy (eg through fear), feeding the neg etc nice little energy sucking circle created, especially as more and more people come to look and go "aaaaggghhhh that hurt".
The reason I would go with this rather saying it is purely the unconscious mind of a person is that I believe abilities like psychokinesis have to be learned. I do not think that even the subconsious knows how to do it until we teach ourselves. I could well be wrong but it does not seem to be a natural ability. Everyone seems to have some psychic abilities buried deep in their minds tho, so I wonder how far this goes.

Adam,
bear in mind that these creatures can have many different attachment points all over your body, so you are probably right in all 3 areas. Good luck kicking it off! Approaching problems like this from as many different angles as possible seems to be the best way.



Edited by - inguma on 23 March 2002  16:16:48

Experiment!
Buy some crystals, whatever appeals (though I suggest one or two clear quartz nodes to start with), play with them, try and feel their energy, try and "become" the crystal - some would say ask the crystal to open to you. Run the crystal under cold water, leave it outside in sunlight or moonlight, see whether you can notice any difference. Just try stuff! Much of the sensing of energies is very subtle, verging on intuition at times.
One exercise, make sure the crystal is well charged, just hold it in your hand and try and gently draw energy from it. Then repectfully ask the crystal if you can have some energy, and see if you get more out/what happens.
enjoy!

Hey
No experience here, but spirits do seem to be able to move and manipulate things on the physical plane, as evidenced in poltergiest phenomena. I do not know how they do this, or how much skill/power a neg would need, but suspect it isn't easy and must be well learnt. I saw a ghosthunters type program on TV and, after doing some Ouija (......) they heard a glass smash, and went to find that a cup had been detamerialised from an above floor and rematerialised on the one they were on. They said this is reasonable common. But it could all quite easily have been faked and set up, I don't know, TV eh? And they were doing Ouiji. Although I am reasonable sure dematerialising/rematerialising is possible - many accounts from psychics, has even been recreated under lab conditions it seems.

Adrian I want to reply to your last post,
You seem to be treating all church experiences as a bad thing, when infact it sounds like the LDS church operates in much the same way as this forum - we all have our own beliefs, and present them and our experiences to other members in the hope that we may all learn something and grow from it.
And you cannot have noticed that Christianity has some very good points about it? I tell my parents (most!) of my beliefs, also how I try and live to be a better person every day, and they still think I am a good Christian. I expect you read lots of interesting mystic/etc books? Christianity also revolves around the reading of one very special book, which whether treated as fact, fiction or something completely different still allows deep and often profound insight. And really, it is difficult to take the bible completely literally because so much of it contradicts itself. OK, so many people may not know this, because they have been brought up to believe the good book as factual, but generally the people who go through life believing this are the same who have never recieved any real spiritual calling - if they did they would discover such things themselves ("seek first the kingdom of heaven and all these things shall be added unto you." said Jesus). So I stick to my above point, that the type of person is what determines spiritual growth, which may be affected slightly by church, but I think we will have to agree to disagree on how much. Like I said, I used to know many church goers, at my age the were normal people, the older ones were all very caring, and the serious - often evangelical - ones at uni are very sweet, lovely people, who seem to try and live life to the highest principles they know. But evidently you have different experiences. Heh, I usually keep all my beliefs hidden from the average christain, in much the same way as I do from the average guy on the street.

However all said I do loudly applaude you for the way you are bringing up your children! I just hope you are teaching them to see the good things in stuff like christianity. As someone on this forum brilliantly pointed out, in live always focus on the dunut, never the hole. I would also add that the hole is a function of the ring and in a way vice versa, if that makes any sense!
Wishing everyone all the best

Oh Adrian, one last thing about your children, how much success have they had? I saw this because I believe that children are naturally spritual and with lots of other interesting abilities, but we forget these things as we grow older and don't use the right faculties, or use the wrong ones (I am still trying to realise some of the things I remember saying when I was younger!). So I would be very interested to hear what happens if children are encouraged along the right lines of spiritual expansion. You say your eldest is already following a high spiritual path - would you mind expanding a little? Thanks in advance!

hmm
I think that the aura completely reflects the personality and mindstate of that person, so quite a lot can be found from it. I also think that although most people would not claim to be psychic, everyone is even if this is only working on the unconscious level and affecting conscious perceptions. As an example, I had an amazing spiritual experience, half a year to a year ago, experienced completely mindblowing universal love for myself and everything. My girlfriend and friend both noticed a change in me for a few weeks after that (I was less distant, and was really changed), and I believe one mechanism though which this works is by sensing the aura (also telepathic and actual energy connections). btw they didn't take long to notice this change.
Another good example I read in my book about psychic skills, is if you hug someone you are completely enfolded in their energy field (aura) and get a good idea of the "feelings" of that person. Last example, people say first impressions are usually right, again this is mostly through sensing the aura.
But all IMHO



Edited by - Inguma on 16 March 2002  03:02:39

Adrian, I agree with what you have to say in theory - that bringing children up under certain "pre-packaged" beliefs is restrictive, but not in practice. I expect you have your own personal reasons for holding your opinions, but I personally have never seen anyone who has been adversely affecting by religion. Some people are closed minded christians, but I seriously believe they would be closed minded people even if they were not brought up under the umbrella of organised religion. This is because quite simply, that is the mindstate most of humanity is in. People who go looking for their own way, like you, me, Daniel and most people here are rare, as is the way of society. Further, it is also possible to find people who are new age/mystic/claiming spiritual who are just as bad at being closed minded.
Lastly, I would like to say that although everyone has to find their own way, for some this way is organised religion. There is a chatholic priest/bishop (pretty high up, Mon Seignor?) person I know from back at the church in the falklands, who is the truly the most spiritual and holy man I have ever met. Nobody I have met in person comes close, he practically shines. He is a true Christian, who follows the catholic "dogma" (though he is relatively low and relaxed for a catholic), but I just have to think, look what he managed to accomplish with it.
So for someone who is aligned to set religion, it may well not matter if they are brough up in christian/buddhist/hindu because a) children reflect their parents b)if this is their way, they will follow it, c)if not (like me) they will go looking elsewhere and possibly d) the main organised religion in a country reflects the mindstate of that country (cause or effect? Both I reckon, symbiotic growth)
The only thing which I abhor is closed mindedness, which set religion does not have to be. Acceptance that other people (friends, family, neighbours) are different to you overcomes all these things.

The dual book "Liber Null & Psychonaut" (Peter Carroll) is absolutely brilliant! Chaos magick, truly very modern, not to take the philosophy of to heart (of which there is a minimal amount of), this style is for results only. The only book I own which comes close in content to AD (though very different angle), a seriously worthwhile buy. Also I am currently digesting "Initiation Into Hermetics" by Franz Bardon, which is said to be the very best book on this topic by many master. Looks like good stuff, but with some "mistakes" (eg with respect to OBE, not entirely accurate...although the course is excellent).

With respect to Uncle Al, well it has to be said that he really did know his stuff and was a powerful adept, even magus. The best way of describing his works is to say just get the general idea of it but no dig tooo deep into the details. He purposely put things in his books for neophiles to do which are unwise, but initiates would looks at and say "umm, I think I won't do that". A healthy pinch of salt advised! (this was so people would be forced to find things in their own way, do it themselves, and not just follow the text word by word - an attitude it seemed he frowned on, for good reason).
And just look at the legacy he left behind him....

Edited by - Inguma on 15 March 2002  04:31:32

Anyone know anything about the energy body/psychic affects of ketamine???

OK, now unfortunately I am no "expert" here but I do know that during organism lots of sexual energy is exchanged to your partner. It is therefore resonably logical that the quality of the orgasm determines the armount of energy released (eg female orgasm last longer, but take longer to...happen). So sex should be more of a exchange of energies, rather than a draining. However, a fair bit of energy is used up in the actual personal act of sex, like any good exercise (eg lots of calories burned).

I have also heard that too many organms is not good, although if I remember rightly it was something like more than 1 million in a lifetime. After that your physical body decides through natural processes that you have had enough, natural evolution has been forfilled and so the body starts to "shut down". I do not think most people need worry about that unduly, although I agree it is quite likely age and some sort of scaling is likely a factor.

Rob



Edited by - Inguma on 15 March 2002  03:57:05

Have been collecting crystals since I was ickle, now I use them for the energy/spiritual purposes.

Firstly, if a crystal is polished or not, I do not think it makes a huge amount of difference to the energy - I have both types, my favourite is a piece of polished amatrine (cross between amathyst and citrine) with six end faces. Next after this are clear quartz' - best is a large one, then a crystal ball then a small record holder crystal, though I don't use it that much. My first favourite is polished, my second is not, though I think for general selling purposes people seem to prefer polished. My crystal ball, has very interesting properties, tried a bit of scrying on it, with some success.
I think which crystals people are drawn to is very, very individual - I know this isn't that helpful, and I therefore suggest a good wide range is adviseable.

As for the benefits, I use them for all purposes from carring them around in my pockets (small rounded ones) to using them in meditation - eg amethyst is said to be good for converting negative energies to positive ones, my experience supports this. There are also crystals which completely clear themselves of all energy, have recently discovered this too (bit annoying, wondering what happened if I put a highly charged piece of metal between 5 of these crystals, the next day all energy was drained from it!). Crystals have many, many uses! But I do use them a fair amount in energy work/meditations, they help a lot (working primaries with them especially, my intuition tells me which should go where)

btw well cleared crystals are seriously preferable, ones holding lots of negativity just don't feel so good. The shop I buy from clear all of theirs, and it is reeeaaaally noticeable (so pure, so nice)

What do I look for, hmm, again fairly individual but often clearer ones are better (less "interferance" - purer, it seems).

btw all clear quartz have been shown through kirlian photography to absorb and adjust their energies to what they are held around, but I think that other colours (which are the same substance as quartz but with various metal ions distributed in them, which determine the colour) have difference qualities.

I think, personally my very favourites are well angled and distributed quartz-style ones which termine perfectly, in 6 faces. This is said to be the generator types, but I cannot fully verify this (although many crystals have given me huge, massively powerful energy rushes - usually clear quartz, coloured ones more modify energy, I think)

hope this helps!

Rob

Interesting debate,
I was brought up on Christianity, sunday to church every week, but now though I may basically hold many christian viewpoints, I would consider myself to be more of a universal religion - I appreciate something in all of them, and I trust that the ones I am not so familiar with (yet) also have good teachings.
My point is this: If someone is brought up well, and not encouraged to have a closed mind, then that is the way they actually grow up. Past that point, if they are aligned to the spiritual, they will discover all these things themselves. My father is a strong catholic, my mother protestant, both relatively closed minded to all things like OBE, but it does not really matter. If someone is the type to find their own way, they will, nomatter what religion they were taught at an early age - although they may appreciate that way more that others, this is simply because they know more about it;. What is important is the attitudes they were encouraged to hold, religion in that respect for most kids is very, very insignificant.
Further, I believe to follow dogmatically a certain religion is good for some people (eg my dad) because it provides them with comfort in the ritual, and they are not looking for anything else, happy as he is (bte my father was not brought up in that religion, he changed at about 20)

have had a few drinks, hope this makes some sense

peacus

Rob

Edited by - Inguma on 15 March 2002  02:58:57

I think
the purpose of life is to live it, to love and learn from it while helping others to do the same. To grow and then, one lifetime, to expand and evolve yourself so much that you leave this plain of existance, as the ultimate goal. And maybe, we will take more out that we begun with, that first morning aeons ago.

peace and flowers and bunnies!

ps lateralus - tool.....worry me, eg faip de oiad (think thats how you spell it, the last track, which I deleted only a few days ago) is very nasty, creates serious negativity in me - does me'nut in ! But the cover of lateralus seriously rocks!!!

Agreeing with the free flying bird

The Ultimate God, at the highest dimension, encompasses everything that is, was, and will be (probably, I'll never know), and is therefore its own opposite, and much more.

Focus 15 - it was, um, about half a year ago when I read this, I think. I remember I was on the site checking out a short demo clip of their hemi-sync audio trickery stuff. But as you can see, the story no longer exists there.....I am pretty sure it was there.
I just typed "monroe institute quartz" in google and came up with:

"It is the third-largest mined quartz in the world and was given to T.M.I. by a friend of Bob's. Shipped all the way from Brazil, this amazing gem can suck anything aberrant from your body in two seconds flat. I have later learned that some people refer to these crystals as Earth Keeper Quartz, with legendary power."
(-mmmm I want one)

at

http://www.intuitionmedicine.com/journal4.htm

so maybe I didn't dream it!!




Edited by - Inguma on 12 March 2002  20:23:24

Wasn't the giant quartz crystal given as a gift to the monroe institute, they placed it in the grounds and built a kinda maze around it? The one I am thinking of (I read this on their site), well I do not think even came from the area. I could be wrong! Although I will concede that ET's planting it there sounds much more interesting...

Hi there
don't have time to reply right now, will do soon, just wanted to paste in one of RB's posts off of the old forum I have held on my hard drive....is very very good! Enjoy:

"G'day Folks!

I had a strange and wonderful experience a few days ago thought I'd share here, as if I remember correctly some questions have been asked about nature spirits and elementals recently. However, this will probably ask more questions than it will answer.

I did a 5 hour trance meditation, starting at 11am, sitting in my office chair as I usually do. I had many OBE's and lucid dreams during this time, but an hour before the end I developed unusually strong astral sight with great clarity of perception. This is not like the usual real-time astral sight where I see other projectors and etc, but full astral sight where I am seeing into the high astral planes clearly. As you know, the astral light is bright and clear, far clearer than the light we have in this physical world. Everything is bright and vivid and colourful in the extreme, far more real and alive than here in the physical world.

NB: please keep in mind as you read on, that I am using at least 3 sets of eyes here, and 3 or more different levels of sight, including normal physical sight. I spent a considerable amount of time experimenting and switching between these during this experience. Of them all, physical sight was the most difficult to achieve while still holding my deep level of trance and astral sight.

1. physical sight
2. real time astral sight
3. normal astral sight
4. high astral sight

I was sitting at my desk, in front of my computer, where I usually meditate from. My astral eyes opened and I could see the room around me very clearly, more clearly in fact than in normal life. I seemed to have a pair of astral eyelids that I could open and close on multiple levels of the astral. I could also close them and see inside my minds eye, or open them and see the astral copy of the room around me. This was a bit confusing, but I am getting used to it and plan to experiment with it more in the near future.

First I noticed whisps of pale smoke hanging in the air around me, about head high, with astral sight. I thought there might be a fire, but sniffed the air and did not smell smoke. I opened my real physical eyes for a moment, and saw no smoke, so I knew that what I thought was smoke was in the astral around me.

I focused on one of the whisps of smoke and it changed into a small being, sort of unfolded itself. It had a face about the size of a tennis ball, with arms and legs streaming to a point of whispy smoke -- meaning the being was teardrop shaped. It maintained a dense smoke-like appearance, but I could clearly see its features, eyes and mouth, etc. It seemed to smile at me, or at least give me a friendly look, and then many other similar beings grew from the other whisps of smoke that hung in the air around me.

Intuitively, I thought these small beings were Sylphs, air spirits of some kind. I feel I have seen this type of being before, but have no idea where or when; a distant memory.

The sylphs surrounded me and then transported my astral body to an astral location far away. They flew me to a grassy clearing amidst massive trees in a beautiful astral forrest. Before me was a huge hollow stump protruding from the ground, like a wooden cave entrance. This cleaing had a magickal quality to it that is hard to describe. Out of this stump climbed a large being. It was humanoid, with an angular and almost square or hexagonal shaped head. It had long arms and legs and was covered in dense, short, light brown fur, with lighter patches here and there and some speckling and banding in light grey. Its body looked like that of a large spider monkey or sloth.

The being felt ancient and intelligent and powerful to my senses, although it appeared young and perfect. It was a very clean and neat looking being, well groomed. The thought went through my head that this being ruled all nature spirits, and was some kind of deity. I felt inhuman intelligence with cool kindness and curiosity emmanating from this being, and I responded with similar albeit slightly more-human feelings. It stood before me and looked at me, but did not speak. It seemed curious about me and I can only think that it sent the little spirits to bring me before it so it could examine me. Maybe what I had been doing, penetrating high astral realms in a powerful way, had attracted its attention. Then it waved its hand, like a command, and the small spirits carried me up into the sky, through many clouds and lots of blue sky, and showed me a great many high places. I had the feeling they were showing me their world, an airy domain of high places and clean air.

Eventually, the little sylphs left me and I found myself hanging in midair in a very high place, with nothing but blue sky around me. I could not see any ground. I think the skyblue colour may relate to the astral plane I was on, rather than actual sky. Then a thought came to me, almost like a telepathic suggestion, and I said respectfully and powerfully: "Paralda, Paralda, Paralda, King of the Air, may your servants cleanse me!" Immediately I felt a powerful force take hold of me and my arms forced to raise out to my sides. I felt transfixed hanging in midair with my arms wide, with a great power flowing through and around me. After several minutes I was let go and was transported back to my office; or so I thought.

I found myself in what seemed to be a different house, and several people (or spirits) appeared around me, one at a time. Some were dirty and shady looking and I immediately disliked them, sensing they were evil, and some I was not sure about. One was dressed in a clean suit and tie, but I did not like the feel of him. I invoked my sword and when it's blade burst into flame, I used it to draw banishment pentagrams and banished each of them. Better to be safe than sorry, methinks. After this I felt for my body and found myself back in my office chair. I had not fallen asleep, as I was still in deep trance and full of energy, with no reside of sleep.

I do not know what the above means yet, but hope to find out more in the coming months. "

Curiouser and curiouser, said Alice."

ps, compared with the astral planes, above the second astral plane anyway, the physical world we live in seems dim and slow and weak. The light is so much brighter and the energy is so much stronger in the Astral than it is down here. These poor tools I have of words fail me utterly when I attempt to describe it. I'll try and write a poem to express it. When I come back to my body after a high astral OBE, its like arriving in a shadowy half-dead world compared to the high astral. The spirit worlds are also generally very bright, high energy places. I look forward to starting an intensive exploration of the astral, beginning next year, with great interest and enthusiasm. I may run a weekly journal and post it on the forum and website. RB. "



- So Robert, if you are reading this, any updates? Find out anything more about what happened?? I think I can safely say that we would love to hear!!

Yes, real beings may visit you in dreams, but if you are lucid you will be able to tell them apart (if they want you to), as they will actually be able to hold a thought for more than a few seconds. Once a lady came to me in a dream saying "Rob, you're dreaming....listen to me - you are dreaming, wake up!!" etc. I didn't really believe her and was nowhere near lucid, she seemed quite annoyed and left soon enough. Shame. Once I was rude to someone (think I know who it was, asked them a question via e-mail a few days before), haven't ever heard from/seen him again! oops....but hey, I was waaaaaay off lucid. Although once I had a real good conversation with someone who claimed she was simply a creation of my sub-conscious mind (she was more lucid than I was....dunno if I believe her), sooo....not entirely sure. Personally I do not think there is too much harm in "beating up" creations of your subconscious mind, so long as it does not ingrain those tendancies into you! Have a couple of times hit people when lucid, I'll say it is fun!

I believe I have encountered elementals a few times, though I could not see them, just feel strongly the presence. They seem to fly/play around me, gives me an immense sence of joy/love, quite mind blowing and some of my fondest memories. When I get out of body....I will find them!
I say they were elementals, but really I do not know, I used to think they were water ones, but I suppose they could have been air. In my minds eye I saw a beutiful creature, female, blue translucent, just like what I would assume an undine to look like so maybe I was just making it up, though I suspect someone like Bruce Moen could strongly argue that what I saw/imagined was real. btw I am a primarily an airy person, but strongly water also (very very little fire, some earth but not balanced yet, probably cos fire is not strong enough, earth being a combination of the 3 etc etc).
These experiences sometimes come when I am reading up on elementals, making my mind very receptive, also I may have felt some out in nature but never anything personal, and once I prayed to Mother Earth to send help for a nasty chakra problem I was experiencing, another undine I think.
Occasionally when out on long walks in the hills (with parents), I allow my mind to put me into the mindframe of an elemental creature, and walk as they do. I may have been helped at times like this, but again, pretty powerful changes caused in me, though I cannot say the strongest experience caused such high/good emotional feelings (afterwards I felt I may even have turned slightly viscious, sharp), strange but very interesting.

So what have you experienced?



Edited by - Inguma on 10 March 2002  17:37:41

Hi Mawk,

Yes, I have seen those photos of water, they are very interesting. I too have been thinking for some time about improved ways of directly or indirectly viewing he effects of mind. However, I showed the article to my brother (skeptic extraordinaire), and now I think I would have to do the experiments myself. I mean, I could easily believe that emotions and associative influences (writing names on the outside, music, etc) could have such a real-world effect, but then again such photo's would be silly easy to twist to whatever results you are looking for.

As for consciousness, and how it works, well thats quite a big question! It would be semi-logical to say that the mind has the capacity to raise itself to different dimensional areas, and the astral seems to be made up from the collective unconsciousness and consciousness of mankind - but then why is it that astral projections are said to become very abstract at times, making the actual info difficult to download to base brain/physical level? This does confuse me, has been quite a stumbling block of logic (btw I cannot project). Perhaps the stages of spiritual development has something to do with raising the base level up to high refined dimensional levels/areas?

Or you could look at it and say that consciousness utilises a facet of the physical world which is relatively unknown - I often end up pointing to this area in techy discussions. www.cheniere.org is my source of info here. Basically he talks about how like energy and mass and interchangeable, also time is. This combined with some very odd physics leads to interesting concepts about "time-polarized photons and time-polarized EM waves". He says that mind works in the time-domain, not the 3 dimensional spatial one most physicists work with. Worrying, he claims during the cold war Russians were not so much interested in proving outdated theories to be right, but actually advancing knowledge, leading to the weaponisation of such technologies. Such weapons are said to be able to completely control people's actions, which sounds suspiciously similar to what RB was saying about "vitual puppetry" while under demonic/strong neg attack....but given another 10 years and I think the west may start to catch up a little (btw free-energy devices should start appearing on the market in under a year, and they use similar foundation physics).
Of course, all this talk of time-polarised waves could be the same/related to time polarisation...

"Masters of Limitation" - I love that term too! Never heard it before, I will try and do as you do, will see if the world changes for me. I can certainly see where it is coming from though.

"Inguma I think it was you who mentioned you heard a humming noise when dimensional beings were around on another post"
No, unfortunately not...my contact with other beings has been very limited, I think I have been quite rude in the past (doh!) to a few, not able to tell the difference between good and bad intentions.

Any thoughts??

Lastly, you said you are at uni - I have to ask, lecturer or student? And what study?? (from a student)

peace...Rob





Edited by - Inguma on 09 March 2002  14:56:12

Hi Focus 15,

"While there are many paths to progression, there are basically "2" types of road - smooth and rocky-."
yes, I like what you were saying on this. I would add that there is a third road, which is like a combination of the rocky and the smooth, but is more than simply the two meshed together. The middle way, balance, always the quickest and best IMO.

"Yet, anyone having the time to do any degree of research at all, eventually realizes that what we are faced with is a situation where open "deceit" has been institutionalized on a planetary scale."
Not too sure I fully aggree here! I think, that there is always another perspective, a different way of looking at such situations. While what you are saying may be true in some cases, and from some perspectives, you could also strongly argue that many of these social institutions out there are working for the good of humankind. Eg, whether Catholicism is right, or whether it should be forced onto people, is not so much the issue as the fact that there is a hell of a lot of good material there and 99% of those ordained into the faith are sincere people just trying to help others ahead. But it could also be said that due to the history of the church, you should shun it wherever possible! Just a different perspective, another facet of the truth if you like. Also government, may be horribly corrupt and decietful, but it they all vanished tomorrow, we'd be completely f*^*%d!! And you have to ask, why did it become the way it is? Grass roots may be more important than we suspect.

"Face with that, how are we to find out the answeres to these "Big Question"?."
OK I think that because there is always another way, you have to just try and be as open minded as possible while assimilating everything you know from your experiences into logical knowledge and getting as close to truth as you can, or at least your truth.

peace!




Edited by - Inguma on 08 March 2002  23:02:05

Possibly/probably some sort of sleep attack - do Core Image Removal (CIR) on the dream with a vengance, and let us know if anything particularly interesting happens! Nightmare, or direct paralysis style attack, I do not know.
I do not know whether you have read up on CIR, if not it can be found in the "articles" section, in basic psychic countermeasures, or something like that.