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Fresco, You wrote

I just recently found out that lower as well as upper astral planes go on forever.  Its infinite the depths of the lower atsral planes, and vice versa for how high you can go in the upper astral world.  The worst of the worst of humanity (Hitler types) would go into the extreme astral depths but whats fascinating is there's even deeper levels than that.  Probably places you dont wanna wind up

I agree with that in principle. However, I conceive as the lower and upper astral planes as simply stretching out to infinity, not going up (higher planes) or down (lower planes) on to infinity. In other words I see the lower planes to be an neverending mishmash jumble of ghettos side by side with totalitarian dictatorships and religious sects. There is no highest to lowest vibration/frequency. They are all more or less on the same frequency and each one could be a mini-hell to an unwelcome outsider. Same for the higher astral planes. They are also more or less on the same frequency, a continuous chain of higher learning centers, healing and recovery locations and places of spiritual enlightenment. You might consider some of the locations better than others yet travel between each is not so much up and down as it is a continuous journey forward and backward.

Regards 
Grey

Hallo Xplorer
Yes, the OBE is # 98, but I started numbering them back in 1993. So 98 OBEs over 17 years is really not that impressive.
Also you might want to record --
1) pre-OBE sensations, things like vibrations, sleep paralysis and strange noises.
2) How you moved about during an OBE. This includes floating inside a building, flying outside or instantly teleporting to another location.
3) any familiar or unfamiliar people or beings that you met OOB.
Note also that meditation, breath exercises, chakra and energy meditations done during the day (before an OBE occurs) are very important and should also be recorded as having an affect on an OBE.

Regards 
Grey

["Short Flight"]

Hi Xplorer
I'm glad that you started this thread 'cause I had an OBE a few days ago and am going to post it here. Usually I start a new thread topic yet this thread seems appropriate so here it is.
I titled this OBE                    "Short Flight"
Thursday November 11, 2010 (OBE # 98)
   This OBE was not preceded by a dream. It was late morning and I was in a deep hypnagogic state. Though there were no vibrations there was mild sleep paralysis. I had a sense that this was the right condition to deliberately go out of body and so made the effort to separate. Yet it was not easy and took about 5 minutes to fully get OOB. I was concerned about moving physically or opening my eyes and fortunately neither happened.
   Totally blind I rose up about 2 feet above my physical body. Without a plan of action or a specific goal in mind (forgot about Astral Pulse Island yet again! I need to do something about that) I decided to try to get outside by going through a window. Without vision I had to find my way by touch alone (forgot to use the "Clarity Now" affirmation, doh!). After a minute or so of groping about I reached the window.
   Getting outside through the window was surprisingly easy. I floated/flew about 30 feet above the yard lying horizontally. Gradually sight came, first I could see the yard, then the street and a nearby tree. I thought about what to do next and decided to visit CK (had not seen her since high school). This would take me to Stanton Heights, another neighborhood about a mile away. I made a flight of only one block and there an apartment building blocked my way. Unable to go over this building I tried to go around it. Yet the OBE suddenly ended and I found myself reintegrated back into the physical.
   Notes. Time was about 9:00 AM. Duration was 10 to 15 minutes. I lay on my right side. Location was a familiar physical Locale I. Deliberate,  Confused (due to initial lack of sight),  Flight,  Floated,  Sleep Paralysis,  Meditation (before),  Affirmations (before), Pranayama (before). After reintegration I was pleased at being able to deliberately go out of body yet was very unsatisfied with the quality and duration of the OBE.
Thanx for reading it. Regards  Grey

Greetings all and Happy Thanksgiving.

AlanRK your Quote

Don't listen to those who think astral projection is purely in the mind (it just shows how little their own understanding is of this topic). If you feel it happened, then it happened. What it was that was occuring, though, is probably not going to be known to you for some time, so try to avoid making conclusions based on shaky assumptions.

Excellant Post ! I totally agree. Sometimes negative encounters take place on the astral/ethereal plane, just like they sometimes take place in the physical world. Everything is Not all love and light. The extensive literature of folk lore, myth and religion as well as hundreds of OBE reports all mention encounters with negative and/or violent astral beings. For anyone to dismiss ALL of these reports as simply figments of an individual's trouble mind is indeed quite arrogant. And, oh yes, I do speak from personal experience as well.

Regards 
Grey

Hallo mindbenda
Congrats on those OBEs, even if they were kind of short. Flying is a blast, even more so when you can control it. 

Regards 
Grey

Hi Sublimy99

I second Xanth's opinion and yes it was an OBE. Affirmations do not always work while out of body. They don't always work for me anyways. So confusion and distorted senses Can be part and parcel of an OBE. You Did make contact with a close person, your son, and that is good. I view your OBE as a positive experience.

Regards 
Grey   

Hallo TaoistGuy
You might be surprised to know that many people first OBEs that were very similar to yours. Like you, many people did not know what an OBE was while they were experiencing it and so got 'freaked out' and voluntarily ended the experience. Later, when they learned what it was they wanted to do it again! So you should be able to go out of body again deliberately if you put in enough time and effort.

Sincerely 
Grey

Hallo Cian
Sometimes your astral awareness will play tricks on you. It is just faulty perception, maybe caused by being too close to the physical body. It happens to many people and that includes me. My advice is to not be concerned. Concentrate on doing something else during the OBE.

personalreality, your quote

because you're not actually "out of your body

What do mean??? 
Can you explain???

Regards   
Grey

Stookie
Yes, it is easy for me to be discerning and analytical AFTER the OBE is over but it is much harder to be that way during the experience. I expect most people are that way too. So I catch obvious mistakes and incongruities only later after they occur.
Hopefully by writing up and posting each OBE I will highlight the obvious errors and not be fooled a second time. My motto is to "pay for my mistakes but don't repeat those mistakes".

Regards 
Grey

Hallo Sodom

That Was an OBE. You had enough astral awareness to realize the difference between being out of body and being in a dream. Note that you saw your physical body asleep and that is almost always a definate sign of being out of body. Well done.

Regards 
Grey

Greetings all

Another OBE to report here. Nothing very dramatic about it yet this experience Does have some interesting points. Note my confusion about the friend/thought elemental. Also in many ways this was similar to an OBE that I had last month (both were preceded by a dream). Here it is, the title is


                                      "A Friend? No, A Thought Elemental"
                                            Friday, November 5, 2010 (OBE # 97)
   This OBE began with a dream.
   Dream. Harry and I were back in New Orleans living in a large 2 room apartment in a multi-story building. I was resting on a sofa in a meditative state. I heard a strange noise so Harry took a look around yet nobody else was there. A few moments later I felt very mild vibrations and so became aware of the possibility of going out of body.
   OBE # 97.  It took 2 or 3 attempts over several minutes to separate and achieve the OBE. I simply floated up off the sofa and went up the wall to the ceiling.
   I was still in the apartment and Harry was also there. It is (now) obvious to me that Harry was only a thought elemental / dream character and was not actually there. Yet the location is not as obvious. Perhaps the place was an unfamiliar physical location or it may have been a non-physical ethereal realm. Or possibly I was still in my own bedroom and dream imagery distorted my astral awareness.
   Wherever it was I floated around up near the ceiling and called out to Harry to witness and 'confirm' the OBE. Harry heard and saw me and expressed amazement. I was excited at the idea of having a friend validate the OBE without realizing, of course, that the friend was not really there. So I spent a few minutes explaining the basics of the OBE to the thought elemental Harry. This was a mistake because it wasted time and kept me too close to my physical body. As a result reintegration with the physical soon occured.
   Notes. Time was between 4:00 - 5:30 AM. Duration lasted about 7 - 10 minutes. I (probably) lay on my left side. The location was either an unfamiliar (physical) Locale I or else an ethereal BST. There was a familiar being - a thought elemental. Dream >>into>> OBE, Deliberate, Emotional, Confused, Floated, Vibrations, Pranayama (earlier), Meditation (earlier) and (maybe) teleportation.

Thanx for reading. Comments and questions are welcomed.
Regards 
Grey

Hi dorian
That Was most probably an OBE. Don't know why you went zooming up into the sky and ended in space. Sometimes those things just happen to inexperienced OBEers. Thoughts can control actions when out of body so maybe you had an unconscious hidden desire to experience space flight. Control in OBEs is usually a function of experience so in your next OBE (and future projections) you Should find it easier to go places where you want to be.

Regards 
Grey

I can recall seeing my astral/ethereal body only once in a mirror during an OBE. Except for the (astral) clothing that I wore my astral body Was the same as my physical body.

Regards
Grey

Greetings

personalreality, Inner~Peace, Captain Picard, and Xanth, Thanx for the friendly comments. I should note here that after documenting my own OBEs I began to use the same method to document other peoples' OBE accounts posted on various websites (including this one). This eventually led me to amass, collate and post my "OBE Survey" ( a compendium of info on over 14,000 OBEs) that is posted here at this site (and on astraldynamics.com). The link to Part I of that survey is here --
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_out_of_body_experiences/obe_survey_report_part_1_introduction-t24896.0.html

Alex, yes, you have also broken an OBE dry spell. I made several comments about your recent experiences in your newest thread.

Eyyoshi
You are close to discovering the bridge between lucid dreams and OBEs. You are right when you claim,

Dream to projection would be soooo much easier.

Yes, indeed it is. Transitioning from dream/lucid dream into an OBE is an ART that is well worth learning.

Thanx  
Grey

Hi Uraotoko

Perhaps you were somewhat confused during this experience. If you could get up and walk away from your bed then you either HAD to be fully out of body or else were sleep walking. YES
It actually appears (that you DID have at least one, and probably several short OBEs yesterday. The inability to move the physical body indicates sleep paralysis (a common phenomenon associated with OBEs). You could get out of body, walk a few feet away and then teleport back to your physical body and repeat the process all over again.
Regarding your questions --
The ability to float/fly and go through physical objects is usually directly related to a person's astral awareness. The more conscious and lucid a person is the easier it is to float and materialize through walls.
Since you were not very lucid it was just beyond your ability to float or to go through a wall. That could happen during your next OBE if you are more consciously aware of being out of body.

Regards 
Grey

Hallo Alex
A truly interesting account of some exceptional OBEs. I have read a few accounts of OBEs by other people who also saw themselves from a third person point of view --- they saw their own physical body during the OBE AND also saw their astral/ethereal body from a third person point of view.
Here I would like to comment that this MIGHT encourage the belief that each of us is MORE than a physical body and an astral/ethereal body. The Hindus, for example, believe that there are 3 (or more) bodies for every person. Hindus believe in a physical body, an astral/ethereal body. a causal body, a mental body (etc, etc). And yes this can get rather confusing. More simply put is a Judeo-Christian idea of a separate physical body, soul and spirit, each existing independently of the other. I am not particularly endorsing any of these religious views but thought that it was an appropriate chance to comment that such views DO indeed exist.

Regards 
Grey

Hallo to all. Recently I broke a dry spell of nearly 7 months without an OBE.
Here it is --

       OBE Titled   "Transition Into Astral Awareness"
               Sunday, October 10, 2010 (OBE # 96)

   This OBE was directly preceded by a dream.
   Dream.  I was living in New Orleans. Harry was there as my roommate. Eventually I moved out of that apartment and was staying in a very large warehouse-type building. Here I missed obvious clues for lucidity including furniture and items disappearing. Writing also kept fading away. Eventually this dream transitioned into an OBE.
   OBE # 96  This began in the large, mostly empty, warehouse room. I was already out of body. The place was either an unfamiliar physical location or else was somewhere in an ethereal belief system territory.
   My consciousness transitioned from the dream into astral awareness. Yet this astral awareness was not complete because I thought that my physical body was in the warehouse room. I was not physically there of course. I floated up about 18-20 feet to the ceiling. This felt quite good. I was mildly excited.
   The room was completely empty. I decided to look for my physical body yet (obviously) could not see it. This OBE was quite short as it lasted less than 2 minutes. Lucidity was not strong so my consciousness transitioned back into a dream, actually a false awakening.
   False awakening.  Here I tried to record the OBE on paper. Again words kept fading away so I finally realized it was a dream.
   Notes.  OBE # 96  Locale I or an Ethereal-BST. No other persons or beings. Travel-teleport, Deliberate,  Dream Into OBE,  Floated,  Short,  OBE Into Dream,  Meditation (earlier),  Pranayama  (earlier).

As usual I appreciate any comments or questions. Thanx for reading
Grey

Hallo moondreamer and welcome.

It sounds like you are a seasoned 'traveler'. That's good. Hopefully you can share some of your out of body experiences with us in the forums. I'm always interested in reading others OBE accounts.

Regards 
Grey

Hallo XP5000

The non-physical locations that you have been to while out of body are probably "Belief System Territories" (BST). A BST is an astral location inhabited by people of similar social, ethical and/or religious beliefs. Basically a place where like-minded astral residents enjoy being. There have been many OBE reports of people going to a BST while out of body. I have been to a couple of BSTs OOB myself. What is special about your experiences is that you have learned the names of some of these BSTs, which is really quite unusual.

Regards 
Grey

Hallo
To reply to your question --- Yes, it Is quite normal for a person to go out of body without trying. It is called spontaneous projecting or a spontaneous OBE. In fact spontaneous projections are probably more common than deliberately induced projections. Actually if a person puts in the effort to have an OBE and then falls asleep, as you did, then it is much more likely for him or her to go out of body later that night. Actually that seems about right, you did the work so you should get a result, even if it happens when you are asleep.

Regards 
Grey

Hi Webstar

Well done! Yes, sometimes an OBE occurs when a person least expects it. That happens to me sometimes, anyway. Your account well very written, lucid and easy to follow as well.

Thanx for sharing here 
Grey

radman.
A quick comment about affirmations. It is just basically saying out loud what you want to do while out of body. Some affirmations are more commonly used. The best example is, "Clarity Now!" But you can use affirmations to help you do anything and achieve anything that you set your mind to do OOB.

Regards   
Grey

Hallo Magisson

To answer your question, the big New Thing regarding OBEs is Phasing (specifically the versions of Robert Monroe and Frank Kepple). I am not a practitioner of phasing, I prefer OBEs the old fashion way. Yet phasing and focus levels are currently much in vogue.

Regards 
Grey

Hi Katie
When the physical body is sick many people find that it is actually easier to deliberately have an OBE. Perhaps the hold and the pull that the physical body exerts on the non-physical (astral) body is much less during periods of sickness/illness. That is one possible reason. One good example of this was the writer and OBEer Sylvan Muldoon (Co-author 0f "Projection of the Astral Body"). He was a sickly child and experienced hundreds of OBEs. Then when his health began to improve the frequency of his OBEs dropped dramatically. He wrote about this extensively in his book showing that the strength of the physical body has an inverse affect on the ability to have an OBE.

Regards 
Grey

Hallo Jarrod and welcome.

There is much info here that can help you increase the frequency and length of your OBEs.

Regards
Grey