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#876
Killa

I'm not big on theories but there maybe two reasons for your interaction with family members OOB.
1) Those family members are also OOB at the same time. Or perhaps they are in a dream state - they could be having an OBE but experiencing it as a dream.

2) Those family members are thought forms created by your own mind. This is exactly what happens in dreams -- the people that we interact with in dreams are creations of our minds. Usually the people that we interact with in OBEs are actual (objective) discarnates yet sometimes we do create thought elementals and 'meet' them while out of body.

Hope this makes sense.  :wink:
Grey
#877
Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: First OBE
October 01, 2010, 21:58:42
Hallo Radman
Yes indeed, that certainly Does appear to have been a full conscious OBE. I like the way that you noticed something different or unusual in the dream/false awakening state and then made the connection into the OBE. I believe that false awakenings and lucid dreams are the perfect 'windows ' for going out of body. I have been able to transition several LDs and false awakenings into OBEs. In fact I currently repeat this affirmation, "I will recognize an incongruity in my next dream and become lucid" several times each day. So far it has not worked and yet I will keep repeating it until it does work.

Regards  8-)
Grey
#878
Hallo Katie
Yes, well done on your OBE.  :-)
A couple quick comments. I agree with Xanth about the silver cord. I think most people do Not have a silver cord and that includes me. Very few people report seeing a silver cord during an OBE.
The strange noises that you heard are also not unusual.
Flying is Great. If there were nothing else to do while out of body then flying would still make OBEs worthwhile.
Some people experience several OBEs in a short period of time (a few days or a couple weeks) and then go long weeks or months with no OBEs. So be aware that it IS possible that you could have several more OBEs in the next few days.

Regards  8-)
Grey
#879
Hallo Fresco. Very cool that you had your first OBE! :-)

Floating indoors IS a blast. Flying outdoors is MUCH better (believe it or not). :wink: Also it is not unusual for people to experience sharpened senses while out of body. It has happened to me once or twice, when my normally average eyesight was Very keen.

Regards  8-)
Grey
#880
Greetings iamkuljuarnot
From the description of your experience it Does appear that you had an OBE! Congrats :-)
Ask yourself--- how many times have I had a dream where I rolled out of my body then got up and saw my physical body lying in bed?? You don't dream like that (nobody does). Seeing the physical body from an out of body perspective is the tell sign that the experience is an OBE.
About the differences that you saw between the astral and physical. Those differences are actually quite normal. The astral/ethereal sometimes appears slightly altered because thoughts manifest as apparent objects in the astral. Usually the differences are minor yet I have, on occasion, noticed some dramatic differences between familiar physical locations and their astral counterparts.

Regards  8-)
Grey
#881
Welcome FutharkLifehack

Your user name implies that you are Runester. Yes?

The astral is the higher superphysical dimension that surrounds the third dimension physical world.  A person can access the astral in several ways. Some of these ways are clairvoyance, trance, remote viewing and the out of body experience.
In the out of body experience a person's consciousness separates from their physical body and is free to roam about and do as they please. Here at Astral Pulse there is discussion about all types of astral experiences, but especially OBEs.

Regards  8-)
Grey
#882
Welcome Royal
So its good that you have had OBEs before.
The dream world Is Very mysterious.
The physical world is also mysterious.
The astral world/dimension is also very mysterious.

Regards  8-)
Grey
#883
Welcome to Members Introductions! / Re: Hello :D
September 07, 2010, 19:02:47
Hallo edge.
Yeah, I'm also a member over at astralviewers and just read the account of your first OBE. You might want to post that here too as you'll likely get several responses.

Regards  8-)
Grey
#884
Hallo manwesulimo2004

[inserts  a pseudo witty comment because I could not actually think of one]  :-D
Look forward to reading your posts on the forums.

Grey
#885
Hallo to newtoastralprojection
Unfortunately not everyone can have an OBE within the first few days, or weeks, of trying. For some the wait until that first OBE can last many weeks or months. (My first happened nearly half a year after starting)
So the best advice (and I have given this to many others beside yourself) is perserverance. If you want the OBE bad enough it will happen, given time. Many times the first OBE happens when a person least expects. Stay with it and good luck.

Regards  8-)
Grey
#886
Asi
There is No one single Right method. Just go with whatever works for You. And the best way to discover that is trial and error. Intuition can also help. Sometimes you just Know what will work and what won't.
Also remember that when you are OOB it is usually necessary to put some distance from your physical body or you can be quickly drawn back to the physical body ending the OBE very quickly.

Regards
Grey  8-)
#887
Hallo Luis
It appears that you were in the state ready to go out of body but were still in the physical body and had not separated. Many people hear unusual voices and noises when in that half-awake and half-asleep state. Also the sleep paralysis (SP) is rather common and is a good indicator that an OBE is possible.
The next time that you find yourself in that situation and want to go out of body make a mental (Not physical) effort to roll your astral/ethereal body out of and away from the physical. This 'roll-out' method works for many people.

Sincerely  :-)
Grey
#888
Welcome to Members Introductions! / Re: crazy story
September 03, 2010, 20:50:56
Hallo ssch and welcome

The revelation of the spiritual realm is one of the most powerful, if not The Most Powerful, experiences possible. Xanth is correct, you are not crazy.
btw, but if you are then are have come the right asylum for there are anay people like you here at Astral Pulse. lol  :-D
Peace
Grey
#889
Hallo untermenschen

Yes, congrats on the OBE, especially if it was your first. Don't be too put off by the poor vision and confusion that you experienced. For some reason those conditions seem to be Very common with inexperienced projectors. Although even experienced OBEers do sometimes have those problems they Do tend to go away (or at least are not as severe) after a few OBEs.

Thanx for sharing  8-)
Grey
#890
Hi venom

Those two girls could have been physical people having an OBE (and possibly unaware of it, maybe they perceived their experience as a dream).
I found it Extremely humorous that they thought you were a ghost and ran screaming from the room, Haha  :-D
It is quite possible that your astral/ethereal body was insubstantial and ghost-like in appearance. This happens to people from time to time yet no one seems to know why.
Don't know where you where. It probably is not that important.
Yes a person CAN see their astral/ethereal body in a mirror. I have done that at least once. (I looked quite like my (physical) self btw, although dressed differently. I have read dozens or hundreds of OBE reports of people seeing themselves in a mirror during an OBE.

Regards  8-)
Grey
#891
Hallo grzazek, you asked

QuoteAll 3 of my exits have been into the RTZ, but really I want to get into Astral!! Any suggestions on how to do this?

Actually that is one of the more important questions - how to deliberately go from one location to another OOB. Honestly I am really not very good at this. Most of my OBEs are RTZ ethereal projections and most of my true astral adventures seem to happen by accident.
Desire and intention (prior intention) are important. Think about where it is that you want to go. Try to visualize that location (even if you have never been there.) Maybe try an affirmation (something like "I will go to_____ during my next OBE!) Just keep trying different ideas until something works.

Sincerely  :-)
Grey
#892
Xanth

Affirmations Do offer real possibilities for inducing both OBEs and LDs. I too have been using them on a regular basis. 3 or 4 or 5 times a day I say, "I will induce an OBE tonight" and "I will experience a lucid dream tonight" and "I will remember one or more dreams tonight".
So far this has worked well with remembering dreams (almost always at least one a night) and somewhat well with LDs (have had 2 or 3 in the last couple of weeks). Hopefully affirmations will eventually lead to 1 or more OBEs.

Regards  8-)
Grey
#893
Greetings all
It's good to see Astral Pulse back up and running again!
I have not had an OBE in quite awhile. My dry streak has reached nearly 5 months.  :oops:
I Did have a very cool dream about a dragon lately. There was probably no internal, hidden meaning to it yet it was enjoyable nonetheless.

Regards  8-)
Grey
#894
Hallo Energy from Within and welcome.

If this is your first attempts at astral projection and OBE then I must advise patience. Yes, yes, it is easy to council patience and much harder to remain patient, especially if repeated attempts over several weeks are unsuccessful.
However, many people do not go out of body until After several weeks or months of repeated tries. So remaining persistant and upbeat is VERY important.

Good luck  :-)
Grey
#895
Greetings Wisteria and welcome back.
Astral Pulse has been one of the few websites devoted to OBEs and astral projection to remain active and strong over the years. The boards remain very busy and the posts continue to be well worth reading.
Regards  8-)
Grey
#896
A hardy good weekend to one and all  :-)

I see that the last post in this thread was 8 days ago (and that was by me btw). So this leads to the question --- has this latest OBE experiment with API run its course?? :? Is it time to conclude the current experiment (and maybe start another)???  :?
I would rather begin something new, or even wait a few weeks, rather than let the current experiment continue with no interest and no active participation.

What do You Think??  :?
Ideas, anybody?

Curious  :|
Grey
#897
Greetings Ahzab

To answer your question. --- Yes there is such a thing as a person helping another person out of their body. It is a relatively rare occurance yet it does happen.
Regarding the threatening beings that you encountered. Yes, it is possible that those beings were only the product of your own mind. On the other hand they may also have been real beings with an objective existence. There is quite a lot of controversy about this. My feelings, backed by personal experience, is that you did the right thing. Better safe than sorry. Maybe those beings could not have hurt you and yet again maybe they really were dangerous. Anyway congrats on the OBE.

Regards  8-)
Grey
#898
Hallo T.L
To answer your question specifically --- No, I have not been to a place like the one you visited. However, I have read dozens of OBE accounts of people who have been to a place like that. It seems that many people who die ('pass over') Do end up in a place like that. Such locations have been variously described as "summerland", or a park or a reception center. Apparently many discarnate 'helpers' inhabit such areas and use their various skills to help the newly deceased 'transition' from a physical to a non-physical existence. Not surprisingly many people who have had NDEs have been to these places and many describe encounters with deceased relatives there.
My take on these places is that they are BSTS with a special function and are only temporary stopovers for those who need to reorient their mental and emotional outlooks to a new way of existence.

Regards  8-)
Grey
#899
Welcome to Members Introductions! / Re: hi
June 11, 2010, 14:22:00
Welcome Solidarity  :-)

Welcome Enigma9  :-)

Who is new??
Who is old??
Whose thread is this??
I'm confused??
Confused Regards  :?
Grey
#900
Hi Timandra
No, the animal is not a tiger.
There is one clue that might help. The picture that I selected has very vivid energetic images. It is motion and action. If you see it then you will see dramatic action, not a still picture/photo of an animal.

Regards  8-)
Grey