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#876
Welcome to Astral Chat! / Our Favorite Quotes
July 11, 2002, 23:09:44
Weird
even samurai have teddy bears and even the teddy bears get drunk

- ?




I am pork boy, the breakfast monkey.

- All That




Dog for sale: eats anything and is fond of children

- Classified Ad




"Some people may think you're cute, Babe. But to me you're one very large baked potato!" -- Sylvester Stallone in Death Race 2000

- Death Race 2000




you did your math strategies wrong. there is no missing dollar. the men started out with thirty, 25 of that is with the manager, 2 of it is with the bellhop and they each have one dollar.

- Emily




Hippies, hippies... they want to save the world but all they do is smoke pot and play frisbee!

- Eric Cartman, "Southpark"




I shot an elephant in my pants. How he got there I'll never know.

- Groucho Marx




rabbits clinkity, clinkity, clink. Hello Mr. Zebra can i have your sweater cause its cold cold cold in my hole hole hole.

- Guess Who




I wish everybody would have to have an electric thing implanted in our heads that gave us a shoc k whenever we did something to disobey the president. Then somehow I get myself elected president.

- Jack Handey




If you ever drop your keys into a pool of lava, forget about them, cuz man, they're gone

- Jack Handey




I've been talking to dead rabbits and feeding bloody walls. I've done horrifying things with salad tongs. It's really eaten into my social life.

- Jhonen Vasquez




If purple monkeys weren't meant to fly then why do i only see them when I'm high?

- Joe




You can lead a horse to water, but if you can get him to lay down on his back and float in it, then you have something.

- Joe E. Brown




What I want to know is where the hell can you get a hotel room for $25.00?

- Larry




"You know I always thought unicorns were fabulous creatures too, although I never saw one alive before." "Well, now that we have met," said the unicorn, "If you'll believe in me, I'll believe in you."

- Lewis Carrol, "Throught The Looking Glass"




"If Pete fails the test, he'll look like a sucker and end up waxing floors like Cecil Tucker"

- Pete And Pete




I didn't expect her to counter my plan with nakedness.

- Riff (Of Pete Abrams' Sluggy Freelance)




A man walks up to a strange beast in the dessert, after many days of walking. He is at the point of exhaustion when he sees that the beast is eating its own heart. He says, "Why are you eating your heart?" And the beast replies, "I eat it because i like its bitter taste, and because it is my heart."

- Stephen Crane




You can't trample infidels when you're a tortoise. I mean, all you could do is give them a meaningful look.

- Terry Pratchett




The leading thief glared at the solid stone that had swallowed Mort, and then threw down his knife. 'Well, ----me,' he said. 'A ----ing wizard. I HATE ----ing wizards!' 'You shouldn't ---- them, then,' muttered one of his henchmen, effortlessly pronouncing a row of dashes.

- Terry Pratchett, "Mort: A Discworld Novel"




" you know what happens to popular people...They get fat"

- Unknown



fides quaerens intellectum
#877
Welcome to Astral Chat! / Our Favorite Quotes
July 11, 2002, 23:05:07


Beauty's attractive, and we dont want people to be attracted by old things. We want them to like the new ones.

- Aldous Huxley, Brave New World




The beauty of life, is that you don't have to be modernly beautiful to live it.

- C.S. lewis




To me the most important thing is the sense of going on. You know how beautiful things are when you're traveling.

- Edward Hopper




There is no excellent beauty that hath not some strangeness in the proportion.

- Francis Bacon




Expose yourself to your deepest fear; after that, fear has no power, and the fear of freedom shrinks and vanishes. You are free.

- Jim Morrison


We ascribe beauty to that which is simple; which has no superfluous parts; which exactly answers its end; which stands related to all things; which is the mean of many extremes.

- Ralph Waldo Emerson



To see a World in a Grain of Sand And a Heaven in a Wild Flower Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand And Eternity in an hour.

- William Blake, In Imagination



The essentials to happiness are something to love, something to do, and something to hope for.

- William Blake, In Happiness



If the doors of perception were to be cleansed man would see everything as it truly is... Infinite.

- William Blake, In Philosophy

In the course of history many more people have died for their drink and their dope than have died for their religion or their country.

- Aldous Huxley




WE [MOI], AS A GROUP, DO NOT RECOMMEND... VERILY, WE REPUDIATE ANY ANIMAL/MINERAL /VEGETABLE/SYNTHETIC SUBSTANCE, VEHICLE and/or PROCEDURE WHICH MIGHT TEND TO REDUCE THE BODY, MIND OR SPIRIT OF ANY INDIVIDUAL (any true individual) TO A STATE OF SUB-AWARNESS OR INSENSITIVITY ... that is to say WE ARE HERE TO TURN YOU LOOSE NOT TURN YOU ON

- Frank Zappa




My peers, lately, have found companionship through means of intoxication--it makes them sociable. I, however, cannot force myself to use drugs to cheat on my loneliness--it is all that i have--and when the drugs and alcohol dissipate, will be all that my peers have as well.

- Franz Kafka




You can turn your back on a person, but never turn your back on a drug, especially when its waving a razor sharp hunting knife in your eye

- Hunter S. Thompson




There is nothing more helpless and irresponsible than a man in the depths of an ether binge

- Hunter S. Thompson




I think psychedelics play a major part in what we do, but having said that, I feel that if somebody's going to experiment with those things they really need to educate themselves about them. People just taking the chemicals and diving in without having any kind of preparation about what they're about to experience tend to have no frame of reference, so they're missing everything flying by and all these new perspectives. It's just a waste. They reach a little bit of spiritual enlightenment, but they end up going, 'Well, now I need that drug to get back there again.' The trick is to use the drugs once to get there, and maybe spend the next ten years trying to get back there without the drug.

- Maynard James Keenan




I don't do drugs. I am drugs.

- Salvador Dali




Psychedelics are probably responsible for every aspect of human evolution apart from the decline in bodyhair.

- Terence McKenna, Food of the Gods




If it keeps you awake, it's art; if it puts you to sleep, it's a drug.

- Unknown




Annual drug deaths: tobacco: 395,000, alcohol: 125,000, 'legal' drugs: 38,000, illegal drug overdoses: 5,200, marijuana: 0. Considering government subsidies of tobacco, just what is our government protecting us from in the drug war?

- William A. Turnbow


fides quaerens intellectum
#878
Is there any real evidence suggesting that national governments indeed employ individuals as "psychic police"???

Please post any website URLs if there are any, thanks!

fides quaerens intellectum
#879
Welcome to Astral Chat! / Our Favorite Quotes
July 05, 2002, 00:58:45
"The terrible thing, the almost impossible thing, is the hand over your whole self--all your wishes and precautions--to Christ."

--Mere Christianity

"'Nothing, not even what is lowest and most bestial, will not be raised again if it submits to death.'"

--The Great Divorce

"A blessed spirit is a mould ever more and more patient of the bright metal poured into it, a body ever more completely
uncovered to the meridian blaze of the spiritual sun."

--The Problem of Pain

"For in self-giving, if anywhere, we touch a rhythm not only of all creation but of all being."

--The Problem of Pain

"What is outside the system of self-giving is no earth, nor nature, nor 'ordinary life', but simply and solely Hell. Yet even Hell
derives from this law such reality as it has."

--The Problem of Pain

"That fierce imprisonment in the self is but the obverse of the self-giving which is absolute reality..."

--The Problem of Pain

"Love is not affectionate feeling, but a steady wish for the loved person's ultimate good as far as it can be obtained."

--Answers to Questions on Christianity

"In the moral sphere, every act of justice or charity involves putting ourselves in the other person's place and thus transcending
our own competitive particularity."

--An Experiment in Criticism

"In coming to understand anything we are rejecting the facts as they are for us in favour of the facts as they are."


fides quaerens intellectum
#880
Welcome to Astral Chat! / Our Favorite Quotes
July 05, 2002, 00:51:42
C.S. Lewis Quote Page



"The Moral Law tells us the tune we have to play: our instincts are merely the keys..."

--Mere Christianity

"The proper rewards are not simply tacked on to the activity for which they are given, but are the activity itself in
consummation."

--The Weight of Glory

"You and I have need of the strongest spell that can be found to wake us from the evil enchantment of worldliness."

--The Weight of Glory

"Perfect humility dispenses with modesty."

--The Weight of Glory

"If God is satisfied with the work, the work may be satisfied with itself."

--The Weight of Glory

"When humans should have become as perfect in voluntary obedience as the inanimate creation is in its lifeless obedience, then
they will put on its glory, or rather that greater glory of which Nature is only the first sketch."

--The Weight of Glory

"As long as this deliberate refusal to understand things from above, even where such understanding is possible, continues, it is
idle to talk of any final victory over materialism."

--The Weight of Glory

"No Christian and, indeed, no historian could accept the epigram which defines religion as 'what a man does with his solitude.'"

--The Weight of Glory

"We live, in fact, in a world starved for solitude, silence, and private: and therefore starved for meditation and true friendship."

--The Weight of Glory

"To make Christianity a private affair while banishing all privacy is to relegate it to the rainbow's end or the Greek Calends."

--The Weight of Glory

"100 per cent of us die, and the percentage cannot be increased."

--The Weight of Glory

"When you invite a middle-aged moralist to address you, I suppose I must conclude...that you have a taste for middle-aged
moralizing."

--The Weight of Glory

"Whenever you find a man who says he doesn't believe in a real Right and Wrong, you will find the same man going back on
this a moment later."

--The Case for Christianity

"This year, or this month, or, more likely, this very day, we have failed to practise ourselves the kind of behaviour we expect
from other people."

--The Case for Christianity

"Human beings, all over the earth, have this curious idea that they ought to behave in a certain way, and can't really get rid of it."

--The Case for Christianity

"Safety and happiness can only come from individuals, classes, and nations being honest and fair and kind to each other."

--The Case for Christianity

"Reality, in fact, is always something you couldn't have guessed. That's one of the reasons I believe Christianity. It's a religion
you couldn't have guessed."

--The Case for Christianity

"Badness is only spoiled goodness."

--The Case for Christianity

"God has landed on this enemy-occupied world in human form...The perfect surrender and humiliation was undergone by
Christ: perfect because He was God, surrender and humiliation because He was man."

--The Case for Christianity

"Now is our chance to choose the right side. God is holding back to give us that chance. It won't last forever. We must take it
or leave it."

--The Case for Christianity

"It is in the process of being worshipped that God communicates His presence to men."

--Reflections on the Psalms

"I think we delight to praise what we enjoy because the praise not merely expresses but completes the enjoyment; it is its
appointed consummation."

--Reflections on the Psalms

"The Psalmists in telling everyone to praise God are doing what all men do when they speak of what they care about."

--Reflections on the Psalms

"Every poem can be considered in two ways--as what the poet has to say, and as a thing which he makes."

--A Preface to Paradise Lost

"The modern idea of a Great Man is one who stands at the lonely extremity of some single line of development--"

--A Preface to Paradise Lost

"Disobedience to conscience is voluntary; bad poetry, on the other hand, is usually not made on purpose."

--A Preface to Paradise Lost

"Reasoning is never, like poetry, judged from the outside at all."

--A Preface to Paradise Lost

"Only the skilled can judge the skillfulness, but that is not the same as judging the value of the result."

--A Preface to Paradise Lost

"Who can endure a doctrine which would allow only dentists to say whether our teeth were aching, only cobblers to say
whether our shoes hurt us, and only governments to tell us whether we were being well governed?"

--A Preface to Paradise Lost

"Everything except God has some natural superior; everything except unformed matter has some natural inferior."

--A Preface to Paradise Lost

"Without sin, the universe is a Solemn Game: and there is no good game without rules."

--A Preface to Paradise Lost

"In the midst of a world of light and love, of song and feast and dance, [Lucifer] could find nothing to think of more interesting
than his own prestige."

--A Preface to Paradise Lost

"It is in their 'good' characters that novelists make, unawares, the most shocking self- revelations."

--A Preface to Paradise Lost

"People blush at praise--not only praise of their bodies, but praise of anything that is theirs."

--A Preface to Paradise Lost

"To fight in another man's armour is something more than to be influenced by his style of fighting."

--The Allegory of Love

"The heart never takes the place of the head: but it can, and should, obey it."

--The Abolition of Man

"It still remains true that no justification of virtue will enable a man to be virtuous."

--The Abolition of Man

"Without the aid of trained emotions the intellect is powerless against the animal organism."

--The Abolition of Man

"As the king governs by his executive, so Reason in man must rule the mere appetites by means of the 'spirited element.'"

--The Abolition of Man

"A great many of those who 'debunk' traditional...values have in the background values of their own which they believe to be
immune from the debunking process."

--The Abolition of Man

"The preservation of society, and of the species itself, are ends that do not hang on the precarious thread of Reason: they are
given by Instinct."

--The Abolition of Man

"If we did not bring to the examinations of our instincts a knowledge of their comparative dignity we could never learn it from
them."

--The Abolition of Man

"An open mind, in questions that are not ultimate, is useful. But an open mind about the ultimate foundations either of
Theoretical or of Practical Reason is idiocy."

--The Abolition of Man

"Wherever any precept of traditional morality is simply challenged to produce its credentials, as though the burden of proof lay
on it, we have taken the wrong position."

--The Abolition of Man

"If we are to have values at all we must accept the ultimate platitudes of Practical Reason as having absolute validity..."

--The Abolition of Man

"What we call Man's power over Nature turns out to be a power exercised by some men over other men with Nature as its
instrument."

--The Abolition of Man

"Man's conquest of Nature turns out, in the moment of its consummation, to be Nature's conquest of Man."

--The Abolition of Man

"No doubt those who really founded modern science were usually those whose love of truth exceeded their love of power."

--The Abolition of Man

"You have gone into the Temple...and found Him, as always, there."

--from a letter "To A Lady"

"Relying on God has to begin all over again every day as if nothing had yet been done..."

--from a letter "To Mrs. L." (50)

"...art can teach without at all ceasing to be art."

--from a letter to "I.O. Evans"

"If the universe is so bad...how on earth did human beings ever come to attribute it to the activity of a wise and good Creator?"

--The Problem of Pain

"Love is something more stern and splendid than mere kindness."

--The Problem of Pain

"Love may forgive all infirmities and love still in spite of them: but Love cannot cease to will their removal."

--The Problem of Pain

"When we are such as He can love without impediment, we shall in fact be happy."

--The Problem of Pain

"When God becomes a Man and lives as a creature among His own creatures in Palestine, then indeed His life is one of
supreme self-sacrifice and leads to Calvary."

--The Problem of Pain

"If we will not learn to eat the only food that the universe grows...then we must starve eternally."

--The Problem of Pain

"Everyone feels benevolent if nothing happens to be annoying him at the moment."

--The Problem of Pain

"Unless Christianity is wholly false, the perception of ourselves which we have in moments of shame must be the only true
one..."

--The Problem of Pain

"The 'frankness' of people sunk below shame is a very cheap frankness."

--The Problem of Pain

"We have a strange illusion that mere time cancels sin. But mere time does nothing either to the fact or to the guilt of a sin."

--The Problem of Pain

"It is by human avarice or human stupidity, not by the churlishness of nature, that we have poverty and overwork."

--The Problem of Pain

"God whispers to us in our pleasures, speaks in our conscience, but shouts in our pains: it is His megaphone to rouse a deaf
world."

--The Problem of Pain

"[Pain] removes the veil; it plants the flag of truth within the fortress of a rebel soul."

--The Problem of Pain

"We regard God as an airman regards his parachute; it's there for emergencies but he hopes he'll never have to use it."

--The Problem of Pain

"It matters enormously if I alienate anyone from the truth."

--The Problem of Pain

"Those who would like the God of scripture to be more purely ethical, do not know what they ask."

--The Problem of Pain

"[God] is not proud...He will have us even though we have shown that we prefer everything else to Him."

--The Problem of Pain

"If God were a Kantian, who would not have us till we came to Him from the purest and best motives, who could be saved?"

--The Problem of Pain

"Tribulations cannot cease until God either sees us remade or sees that our remaking is now hopeless."

--The Problem of Pain

"Those who would most scornfully repudiate Christianity as a mere "opiate of the people" have a contempt for the rich, that is,
for all mankind except the poor."

--The Problem of Pain

"Every uncorrected error and unrepented sin is, in its own right, a fountain of fresh error and fresh sin flowing on to the end of
time."

--The Problem of Pain

"Heaven offers nothing that a mercenary soul can desire."

--The Problem of Pain

"Be sure that the ins and outs of your individuality are no mystery to Him; and one day they will no longer be a mystery to you."

--The Problem of Pain

"God will look to every soul like its first love because He is its first love."

--The Problem of Pain

"No good work is done anywhere without aid from the Father of Lights."

--Reflections on the Psalms

"An Ulster Scot may come to disbelieve in God, but not to wear his weekday clothes on the Sabbath."

--Surprised by Joy

"To be discontinuous from God as I am discontinuous from you would be annihilation."

--Letters to Malcolm

"'You come of the Lord Adam and the Lady Eve,' said Aslan. 'And that is both honour enough to erect the head of the poorest
beggar, and shame enough to bow the shoulders of the greatest emperor in earth.'"

--Prince Caspian

"Christ died for men precisely because men are not worth dying for; to make them worth it."

--The World's Last Night

"Surely what a man does when he is taken off his guard is the best evidence for what sort of man he is..."

--Mere Christianity

"Nothing is yet in its true form."

--Till We Have Faces

"If I find in myself a desire which no experience in this world can satisfy, the most probable explanation is that I was made for
another world."

--Mere Christianity

"If you are really a product of a materialistic universe, how is it that you don't feel at home there?"

--Encounter with Light

"It now seemed that...the deepest thirst within him was not adapted to the deepest nature of the world."

--The Pilgrim's Regress

"Though I do not believe that my desire for Paradise proves that I shall enjoy it, I think it a pretty good indication that such a
thing exists and that some men will."

--Transposition and Other addresses

"We are born helpless. As soon as we are fully conscious we discover loneliness..."

--Transposition and Other addresses

"It was when I was happiest that I longed most...The sweetest thing in all my life has been the longing...to find the place where
all the beauty came from."

--Till We Have Faces

"There is a kind of happiness and wonder that makes you serious. It is too good to waste on jokes."

--The Last Battle

"The very nature of Joy makes nonsense of our common distinction between having and wanting."

--Surprised by Joy

"All joy...emphasizes our pilgrim status; always reminds, beckons, awakens desire. Our best havings are wantings."

--from an unknown letter

"Joy is the serious business of Heaven."

--Letters to Malcolm

"'You would not have called to me unless I had been calling to you,'" said the Lion."

--The Silver Chair

"A young man who wishes to remain a sound Atheist cannot be too careful of his reading. There are traps everywhere--'Bibles
laid open, millions of surprises,' as Herbert says, 'fine nets and stratagems.' God is, if I may say it, very unscrupulous."

--Surprised by Joy

"Thus, and not otherwise, the world was made. Either something or nothing must depend on individual choices."

--Perelandra

"Try to exclude the possibility of suffering which the order of nature and the existence of free-wills involve, and you find that you
have excluded life itself."

--The Problem of Pain

"If God thinks this state of war in the universe a price worth paying for free will...then we may take it it is worth paying."

--Mere Christianity

"Until you have given up your self to Him you will not have a real self..."

--Mere Christianity

"Critics who treat adult as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves."

--On Three Ways of Writing for Children

"The worst attitude of all would be the professional attitude which regards children in the lump as a sort of raw material which
we have to handle."

--On Three Ways of Writing for Children (100)

"Truth and falsehood are opposed; but truth is the norm not of truth only but of falsehood also."

--The Allegory of Love

"If nothing is self-evident, nothing can be proved. Similarly if nothing is obligatory for its own sake, nothing is obligatory at all."

--The Abolition of Man

"The human mind has no more power of inventing a new value than of planting a new sun in the sky or a new primary colour in
the spectrum..."

--Christian Reflections

"The very idea of freedom presupposes some objective moral law which overarches rulers and ruled alike...Unless we return to
the crude and nursery-like belief in objective values, we perish."

--Christian Reflections

"Atheism turns out to be too simple. If the whole universe has no meaning, we should never have found out that it has no
meaning..."

--Mere Christianity

"If we retain only what can be justified by standards of prudence and convenience at he bar of enlightened common sense, then
we exchange revelation for that old wraith Natural Religion."

--'Notes on the Way', Time and Tide

"When you are arguing against Him you are arguing against the very power that makes you able to argue at all."

--Mere Christianity

"If naturalism were true then all thoughts whatever would be wholly the result of irrational causes...it cuts its own throat."

--A Christian Reply to Professor Price

"Unless thought is valid we have no reason to believe in the real universe."

--Christian Reflections

"A universe whose only claim to be believed in rests on the validity of inference must not start telling us the inference is invalid..."

--Christian Reflections

"The laws of thought are also the laws of things: of things in the remotest space and the remotest time."

--Christian Reflections

"Morality or duty...never yet made a man happy in himself or dear to others."

--English Literature in the 16th Century

"You would not call a man humane for ceasing to set mousetraps if he did so because he believed there were no mice in the
house."

--Mere Christianity

"There is nothing indulgent about the Moral Law. It is as hard as nails...If God is like the Moral Law, then He is not soft."

--Mere Christianity

"Morality, like numinous awe, is a jump; in it, man goes beyond anything that can be 'given' in the facts of experience."

--The Problem of Pain

"All men alike stand condemned, not by alien codes of ethics, but by their own, and all men therefore are conscious of guilt."

--The Problem of Pain

"[Consciousness] is either inexplicable illusion, or else revelation."

--The Problem of Pain

"The road to the promised land runs past Sinai."

--The Problem of Pain

"Of all bad men religious bad men are the worst."

--Reflections on the Psalms

"It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies."

--The Humanitarian Theory of Punishment

"Those that hate goodness are sometimes nearer than those that know nothing at all about it and think they have it already."

--The Great Divorce

"I'm on Aslan's side even if there isn't any Aslan to lead it. I'm going to live as like a Narnian as I can even if there isn't any
Narnia."

--The Silver Chair

"Certain things, if not seen as lovely or detestable, are not being correctly seen at all."

--Letters to Malcolm

"[One] can regard the moral law as an illusion, and so cut himself off from the common ground of humanity."

--The Problem of Pain

"Human intellect is incurably abstract."

--Myth Became Fact, World Dominion

"The more lucidly we think, the more we are cut off: the more deeply we enter into reality, the less we can think."

--Myth Became Fact, World Dominion

"You cannot study Pleasure in the moment of the nuptial embrace, nor repentance while repenting, nor analyze the nature of
humour while roaring with laughter."

--Myth Became Fact, World Dominion

"The surest way of spoiling a pleasure [is] to start examining your satisfaction."

--Surprised by Joy

"History is a story written by the finger of God."

--Christian Reflections

"This moment contains all moments."

--The Great Divorce

"Where, except in the present, can the Eternal be met?"

--Christian Reflections

"So many things--nay every real thing--is good if only it will be humble and ordinate."

--Letters

"There are no variations except for those who know a norm, and no subtleties for those who have not grasped the obvious."

--An Experiment in Criticism

"If there is equality it is in His love, not in us."

--Transposition and Other Addresses

"Authority exercised with humility, and obedience accepted with delight are the very lines along which our spirits live."

--Transposition and Other Addresses

"Beauty is not democratic; she reveals herself more to the few than to the many..."

--'Notes on the Way' Time and Tide

"Democracy demands that little men should not take big ones too seriously; it dies when it is full of little men who think they are
big themselves."

--'Notes on the Way' Time and Tide

"The claim to equality, outside the strictly political field, is made only by those who feel themselves to be in some way inferior."

--The Screwtape Letters

"They do not get their qualities from a class: they belong to that class because they have those qualities."

--'Delinquents in the Snow' Time and Tide

"He who surrenders himself without reservation to the temporal claims of a nation, or a party, or a class is rendering to Caesar
that which, of all things, most emphatically belongs to God: himself..."

--Transposition and Other Addresses

"The true enjoyments must be spontaneous and compulsive and look to no remoter end."

--The World's Last Night

"The moment good taste knows itself, some of its goodness is lost."

--Surprised by Joy

"We have had enough, once and for all, of Hedonism--the gloomy philosophy which says that Pleasure is the only good."

--'Hedonics' Time and Tide

"Many things--such as loving, going to sleep, or behaving unaffectedly--are done worst when we try hardest to do them."

--Studies in Medieval and Renaissance Literature

"Conquest is an evil productive of almost every other evil both to those who commit and to those who suffer it."

--Studies in Medieval and Renaissance Literature

"The universe rings true wherever you fairly test it."

--Surprised by Joy

"Heaven will solve our problems, but not, I think, by showing us subtle reconciliations between all our apparently contradictory
notions."

--A Grief Observed

"The notion that everyone would like Christianity to be true, and therefore all atheists are brave men who have accepted the
defeat of all their deepest desires, is simply impudent nonsense."

--Encounter With Light

"Now that I am a Christian I do not have moods in which the whole thing looks very improbable: but when I was an atheist I
had moods in which Christianity looked terribly probable."

--Mere Christianity

"Looking for God--or Heaven--by exploring space is like reading or seeing all Shakespeare's plays in the hope that you will
find Shakespeare as one of the characters..."

--'The Seeing Eye', Christian Reflections (150)

"Books on psychology or economics or politics are as continuously metaphorical as books of poetry or devotion."

--Miracles

"Unless the religious claims of the Bible are again acknowledged, its literary claims will, I think, be given only 'mouth honour'
and that decreasingly."

--They Asked for a Paper

"Odd, the way the less the Bible is read the more it is translated."

--Letters (25 May 1962)

"Poetry too is a little incarnation, giving body to what had been before invisible and inaudible."

--Reflections on the Psalms

"For whatever else the religious life may be, it is the fountain of self-knowledge and disillusion, the safest form of
psychoanalysis."

--Book Review, Review of English Studies

"The most valuable thing the Psalms do for me is to express the same delight in God which made David dance."

--Reflections on the Psalms

"We may ignore, but we can nowhere evade, the presence of God."

--Letters to Malcolm

"The difference [God's] timelessness makes is that this now (which slips away from you even as you say the word now) is for
Him infinite."

--Letters (1 August 1949)

"Perfect goodness can never debate about the end to be attained, and perfect wisdom cannot debate about the means most
suited to achieve it."

--The Problem of Pain

"No philosophical theory which I have yet come across is a radical improvement on the words of Genesis, that 'In the beginning
God made Heaven and Earth'."

--Miracles

"Though we cannot experience our life as an endless present, we are eternal in God's eyes; that is, in our deepest reality."

--Letters to Malcolm

"Mercy, detached from Justice, grows unmerciful."

--The Humanitarian Theory of Punishment

"Pure, spiritual, intellectual love shot form their faces like barbed lightning. It was so unlike the love we experience that its
expression could easily be mistaken for ferocity."

--Perelandra

"God has paid us the intolerable compliment of loving us, in the deepest, most tragic, most inexorable sense."

--The Problem of Pain

"'Yes,' said Queen Lucy. 'In our world too, a Stable once had something inside it that was bigger than our whole world.'"

--The Last Battle

"'How can I step out of [God's] will save into something that cannot be wished?'"

--Perelandra

"'Don't you mind him,' said Puddleglum. 'There are no accidents. Our guide is Aslan.'"

--The Silver Chair

"'Safe?' said Mr. Beaver...'Who said anything about safe? 'Course he isn't safe. but he's good. He's the King, I tell you.'"

--The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe

"'Then instantly the pale brightness of the mist and the fiery brightness of the Lion rolled themselves together into a swirling glory
and gathered themselves up and disappeared.'"

--The Horse and His Boy

"Only He who really lived a human life (and I presume that only one did) can fully taste the horror of death."

--Letters (c. September 1940)

"Where, except in uncreated light, can the darkness be drowned?"

--Letters to Malcolm

"'When a willing victim who had committed no treachery was killed in a traitor's stead, the table would crack and Death itself
would start working backwards.'"

--The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe

"Some people probably think of the Resurrection as a desperate last moment expedient to save the Hero from a situation which
had got out of the Author's control."

--Miracles

"The idea which...shuts out the Second Coming from our minds, the idea of the world slowly ripening to perfection, is a myth,
not a generalization from experience."

--The World's Last Night

"To play well the scenes in which we are 'on' concerns us much more than to guess about the scenes that follow it."

--The World's Last Night

"'Something of God...flows into us from the blue of the sky, the taste of honey, the delicious embrace of water whether cold or
hot, and even from sleep itself.'"

--'Scraps', St. James' Magazine

"'We do not truly see light, we only see slower things lit by it, so that for us light is on the edge--the last thing we know before
things become too swift for us.'"

--Out of the Silent Planet

"These things are not strange, Small One, though they are beyond our senses."

--Out of the Silent Planet

"A creature revolting against a creator is revolting against the source of his own powers--including even his power to revolt...It
is like the scent of a flower trying to destroy the flower."

--A Preface to Paradise Lost

"Really, a young Atheist cannot guard his faith too carefully. Dangers lie in wait for him on every side."

--Surprised by Joy

"You must not do, you must not even try to do, the will of the Father unless you are prepared to 'know of the doctrine'."

--Surprised by Joy

"Every sin is the distortion of an energy breathed into us..."

--Letters to Malcolm

"We poison the wine as He decants it into us; murder a melody He would play with us as the instrument...Hence all sin,
whatever else it is, is sacrilege."

--Letters to Malcolm

"...of that intimate laughter between fellow professionals, which of all earthly powers is strongest to make men do very bad
things before they are yet, individually, very bad men."

--That Hideous Strength

"And then she understood the devilish cunning of the enemies' plan. By mixing a little truth with it they had made their lie far
stronger."

--The Last Battle

"To admire Satan [in Paradise Lost] is to give one's vote not only for a world of misery, but also for a world of lies and
propaganda, of wishful thinking, of incessant autobiography."

--A Preface to 'Paradise Lost'

"The extremity of its evil had passed beyond all struggle into some state which bore a horrible similarity to innocence."

--Perelandra

"Hatred obscures all distinctions."

--'On Science Fiction', Of Other Worlds

"Sleeping on a dragon's hoard with greedy, dragonish thoughts in his heart, he had become a dragon himself."

--The Voyage of the 'Dawn Treader'

"The gravitation away from God, 'the journey homeward to habitual self', must, we think, be a product of the Fall."

--The Problem of Pain

"All that we call human history--money, poverty, ambition, war, prostitution, classes, empires, slavery--[is] the long terrible
story of man trying to find something other than God which will make him happy."

--Mere Christianity

"Every story of conversion is the story of a blessed defeat."

--Foreword to Joy Davidman's Smoke on the Mountain

"The natural life in each of us is something self-centred, something that wants to be petted and admired, to take advantage of
other lives, to exploit the whole universe."

--Mere Christianity

"[The natural life] knows that if the spiritual life gets hold of it, all its self-centredness and self-will are going to be killed and it is
ready to fight tooth and nail to avoid that."

--Mere Christianity

"This act of self-will on the part of the creature, which constitutes an utter falseness to its true creaturely position, is the only sin
that can be conceived as the Fall."

--The Problem of Pain

"The essence of religion, in my view, is the thirst for an end higher than natural ends..."

--A Christian Reply to Professor Price' Phoenix Quarterly

"From the moment a creature becomes aware of God as God and of itself as self, the terrible alternative of choosing God or
self for the centre is opened to it."

--The Problem of Pain

"At this very moment you and I are either committing [selfishness], or about to commit it, or repenting it."

--The Problem of Pain

"The dangers of apparent self-sufficiency explain why Our Lord regards the vices of the feckless and dissipated so much more
leniently than the vices that lead to worldly success."

--The Problem of Pain

"Prostitutes are in no danger of finding their present life so satisfactory that they cannot turn to God: the proud, the avaricious,
the self-righteous, are in that danger."


fides quaerens intellectum
#881
Welcome to Astral Chat! / What Dreams May Come
July 05, 2002, 00:43:23
I don't mean to beat a dead horse (I say that because I think I may have mentioned something to this effect earlier) but I believe this novel/book is a great introduction to NDE/OBE, etc. for those who have not yet expanded their horizons...my sister, for example, read the novel in her comp. religion class and now she and I can talk about the sliver cord, etc and had I mentioned any thing like that to her before she would have just looked at me and uttered, "You're crazy!" or something.  Anyway, I am still looking forward to hearing from those of you who read the book in the future...

-Dan

fides quaerens intellectum
#882
I remember a little bit about what he said in regards to that....he talked about some element that is found in the human brain that has to do with electricity and magnetism---magnite or something?  Anyway, high concentrations of this same element have been found in the top of the Aztec pyramids and in the middle of Native American medicine wheels (places of supposed great spiritual power, etc.)  

I found the book at my local library.  I bet it's still available somewhere, maybe on the net.



fides quaerens intellectum
#883
Some info on the book "Grand Illusions" by Greg Little:

JOURNAL OF POSSIBLE PARADIGMS
Issue 3, Summer '95


Grand Illusions
by Dr. Gregory L. Little
reviewed by S. Miles Lewis


Dr. Little has done it again! Subtitled "The Spectral Reality Underlying Sexual UFO Abductions, Crashed Saucers, Afterlife Experiences, Sacred Ancient Sites, and Other Enigmas," this book covers a lot of ground.
With this book Little has completed a sort of trilogy detailing the mechanisms of manifestation behind UFOs, angels, demons, and other apparitions. Far from debunking these encounters as simply hallucinations of the mind's eye, Little proposes that the witnesses often interact with physically real entities whose origin lies in Carl Jung's conception of the archetypes within humanity's collective unconscious. This is the kind of hypothesis which typically infuriates American UFOlogists because it undermines their hope and expectation for an extraterrestrial origin. But Little goes a long way to show he is not a psychological debunker by detailing his thorough investigations of specific Fortean cases. From apparent falls of worms from the sky to the "mysterious" disappearance of the Mississippi's Iron Mountain tugboat. He points out the shortcomings of purported government documents like the Majestic-12 papers and their researchers.

In Little's first book, The Archetype Experience, he brilliantly and succinctly illustrated how Jung (in Dr. Little's paradigm at least) conceived of archetypes as physical entities of psychic energy which have interacted with humanity for centuries. He also showed how the bulk of UFO reports, the 95% haystack, are intimately linked to Jung's concept of synchronicity which arose from his ideas about archetypes.

In People of the Web, Dr. Little extended his hypothesis into the realms of Native American studies. He examined stone circles, Indian mounds, and the ancient rituals that are linked to these sites. He presented a rich tapestry of Amerindian experience exemplified by the annual Massaum ceremony. It was during this 56 day ceremony that the Indians called down and communed with their gods.

With Grand Illusions, his third and most recent UFO book, Dr. Little has rounded out his theory, which could be called the "GeoPhysical Manifestation of Jungian Archetypes." In his first book he briefly mentioned the geophysical theories put forth by Dr. Michael Persinger and he has continued to reference Persinger's ongoing psychotronics research. Yet Dr. Little has strangely avoided any mention of British research into the Earth Lights Hypothesis.

Little presents a sober hypothesis integrating earth energies, brain chemistry, fairy lore, Jungian psychology, and journalist John Keel's ideas of UFOs as ultraterrestrial shape shifting entities of energy.

He details several American flap areas including the notorious Gulf Breeze hot zone. He astutely suggest that it is the perfect stage for a sociological experiment in civilian reaction to UFOs. A telling proposition considering that areas history of psychotronics/navy communications research. Particularly in light of Vallee's revelation of similarly proposed experiments suggested by the now infamous Battelle University memo he cites in his last book Forbidden Science.

Again Little provides much food for thought in his analysis of the near death experience as it relates to UFOs and the NDE Osiris cults of Egypt. He links the use of the pyramid to out-of-body-experiences induced by the cults' priests as a rite of passage to the Great Pyramid's alignments with Orion.

My only "gripes" about this book are these:

-Firstly, Little holds to John Keel's humorous explanation of the Roswell debris as the remains of a Japanese Fugo balloon. While I admit to having no clue as to the "true" nature of the wreckage I feel safe in keeping the fugo explanation far down on the list of probabilities.

-Little is a big fan of Keel's and references much of Keel's works. Yet when it comes to explaining possible links between unmarked helicopters and the modern UFO myth he writes it off as pure coincidence. It was Keel who proposed that certain phantom aircraft were direct manifestations of the UFO phenomena within his book UFOs: Operation Trojan Horse. And Dennis Stillings has utilized a Jungian perspective in his fantastic articles detailing the powerful symbolism of the helicopter in connection to UFO events.

-Lastly, Greg Little dismisses cattle mutilations as simple misidentification of predator attacks and satanic rituals. While I am convinced by some of his arguments (specifically the documentary/experiment where a surveillance camera caught natural predators "creating" a carcass identical to the typical cattle mute within a 24 hour period) I must wonder why an immanent scientist like Jacques Vallee would spend his valuable time on such misidentifications. And what about pre-modern era accounts of mutilations in connection with paranormal manifestations? Are we dealing with living folklore here as well? Thomas Bearden and Dennis Stillings both wrote fantastic articles about the inherent symbolism of these mutilations and the fear generated within our collective consciousness by these terrors. [see The Anomalist #2 ] I still think the possibility remains that some agency could be perpetrating at least some of these horrific mutilations in order to scare ranchers off their land and out of business, perhaps as part of an AgricCorporate Conspiracy or as an attempt by the government to "discredit the ufo phenomena, instilling doubt as to the beneficence of the aliens."

Despite these remarks I highly recommend Dr. Little's latest book. He is a fine researcher who will open many people's minds to the incredible possibilities that are evident within these strange phenomena.

The book is replete with fancifully shocking artwork by John Michael McCarthy as well as photographs and diagrams that help capture the subject matter detailed within Dr. Little's well written text.

Greg Little can be contacted through the fabulous magazine:

ALTERNATE PERCEPTIONS
PO Box 9972
Memphis, TN 38190


 
 
 
 
by Dr. Gregory L. Little
 
  CURRENTLY OUT OF PRINT
 
 
271 pages, 6 X 9 trade softcover, color cover
 
 
Line Illustrations by John Michael McCarthy
 
 
   
 
 
Foreword and Afterword by Brent Raynes
 
 
Extensive Index, highly illustrated
 
 
Retail Price: $19.95; Published 1994
 
 
ISBN: 0-940829-10-X
 
 
               
 
In Grand Illusions Dr. Greg Little continues to solve and piece together the most profound enigmas into a comprehensive and understandable theory. Grand Illusions is Dr. Little's third book on bizarre phenomena following his earlier The Archetype Experience (1984) and People of the Web (1990). Profusely illustrated, Grand Illusions takes its readers on an adventure through reports of crashed saucers and alien intervention, conspiracies in government and ufology, solving mysterious disappearances of ships and strange appearances of glowing objects and apparitions, through ancient and modern sexual abductions, and into the world of science. Sacred Native American sites and ceremonies, the Cult of Osiris, near death experiences, Satanic rituals and the core of Masonic belief are all explored. Following the writings of Dr. Carl Jung and author John Keel, Little shows how abductions, apparitions, and UFO phenomena are phenomena stemming from the electromagnetic energy spectrum. Grand Illusions is not all pleasant reading, and the implications of the electromagnetic spectrum manifestations are profoundly sobering.

In Grand Illusions:

The Disappearance of the Enigmatic Riverboat Iron Mountain Is Solved

Images of the Dead Emerge From Mirrors

Haunted Houses Come Alive Scientifically

The Scientific Search for the Soul Is Revealed

Native American Visions of the Little People Are Detailed

Ancient Incubus and Succubus Reports Are Explained

Sexual UFO Abductions Are Explained

Cattle Mutilations Are Explained

Rituals That Interact With The Electromagnetic Spectrum

Satanic Rituals Revealed

Brain Chemistry and the Electromagnetic Spectrum Made Understandable

Near Death Experiences Explained

The Real Use of the Great Pyramid

Shamanic Powers Explained

The Reality of Heaven and Hell

The Core of Masonic Beliefs



Reviews —

"His intriguing beliefs for me have melded science and spirituality into a rational and understandable theory. If he is right, it is the greatest discovery in the history of the world." —Mike Masterson, Editor, Northwest Arkansas Times, November 17, 1996



"...a new big step at confirming the incredible. 'The answers to UFOs lie not in the visitations of beings like us. Something far deeper and profound is going on.' ...presents systematic but provocative ideas about UFOs that include expansion of Carl Jung's ideas. ...Little surveys abductions through the ages, the biochemistry of the brain, the zealous search for God by some, and tales of little people. A rational, convincing and scary clincher."— The Book Reader, Summer 1994



"Fortean writer and psychologist Dr. Gregory Little continues his quest begun with People of the Web: a quest in search of crashed saucers, glowing apparitions, sexual abductions, government conspiracies, and more strange goings on. ...looks at various phenomena as stemming from the electromagnetic energy spectrum... Heaven and Hell, haunted houses, near death experiences..." — Adventures Unlimited, Fall 1995



"the culmination of a trilogy of works by one of America's most freethinking ufologists. ...Words are not minced and punches not pulled. ...You should add this instant classic to your bookshelf." — Strange Magazine, 1995



"...clears out some of the dross that holds back and devalues our work...he sets an example of what more of us should be doing." — Kevin McClure, Promises & Disappointments, 1995



"If it's insight into the human condition you're after, you want this book." —Bob Girard, Arcturus Book Service, 1994



"...a thought-provoking book ... devoid of tedious jargon... Highly recommended." — Leading Edge Reviews, 1994



Termed one of the six best UFO books ever published. — John Keel, Fate Magazine, 1998
 
 
 
To order by fax (901) 785-7592 by mail send to:
 
 
 
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fides quaerens intellectum
#884
Welcome to Astral Chat! / Our Favorite Quotes
July 03, 2002, 14:28:36
I love William Blake, so here it is!:
Quotations of William Blake
(1757-1827)

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from Annotations to Lavater, 1788 (age 31)
Damn sneerers!
True superstition is ignorant honesty & this is beloved of god and man.
Forgiveness of enemies can only come upon their repentance.
Active Evil is better than Passive Good.
They suppose that Woman's Love is Sin; in consequence all the Loves & Graces with them are Sin.

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from Annotations to Swedenborg, 1788
There can be no Good Will. Will is always Evil; it is persecution to others or selfishness.
If a thing loves, it is infinite.

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from There Is No Natural Religion, 1788
Reason, or the ratio of all we have already known, is not the same that it shall be when we know more.

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from All Religions are One, 1788
The true method of knowledge is experiment.

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from The Marriage of Heaven and Hell, 1790-93
Those who restrain desire, do so because theirs is weak enough to be restrained.
How do you know but ev'ry Bird that cuts the airy way, / Is an immense world of delight, clos'd by your senses five?
Drive your cart and your plow over the bones of the dead.
The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom.
He who desires but acts not, breeds pestilence.
If the fool would persist in his folly he would become wise.
The lust of the goat is the bounty of God.
What is now proved was once only imagin'd.
Always be ready to speak your mind, and a base man will avoid you.
Every thing possible to be believ'd is an image of truth.
The eagle never lost so much time as when he submitted to learn of the crow.
The fox provides for himself, but God provides for the lion.
He who has suffer'd you to impose on him, knows you.
The tygers of wrath are wiser than the horses of instruction.
You never know what is enough unless you know what is more than enough.
If others had not been foolish, we should be so.
As the catterpiller chooses the fairest leaves to lay her eggs on, so the priest lays his curse on the fairest joys.
Damn braces: Bless relaxes.
Exuberance is Beauty.
Improvement makes strait roads; but the crooked roads without improvement are roads of Genius.
Sooner murder an infant in its cradle than nurse unacted desires.
Truth can never be told so as to be understood, and not be believ'd.
The voice of honest indignation is the voice of God.
Man has closed himself up, till he sees all things thro' narrow chinks of his cavern.
Jesus was all virtue, and acted from impulse, not from rules.

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from the Notebook, 1793
The Question Answer'd
What is it men in women do require? The lineaments of Gratified Desire. / What is it women do in men require? The lineaments of Gratified Desire.
Lacedemonian Instruction
'Come hither, my boy, tell me what thou seest there?' / 'A fool tangled in a religious snare.'

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from Songs of Experience, 1789-94
Children of the future Age / Reading this indignant page, / Know that in a former time / Love! sweet Love! was thought a crime.

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from Annotations to Watson, 1798
The Man who pretends to be a modest enquirer into the truth of a self evident thing is a Knave.

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from the Notebook, 1800-03
When a Man has Married a Wife he finds out whether / Her Knees & elbows are only glued together

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fides quaerens intellectum
#885
Welcome to Astral Chat! / Our Favorite Quotes
July 02, 2002, 19:37:05
"One of the most adventurous things left us is to go to bed. For no one can lay a hand on our dreams."
-E. V. Lucas, 365 Days and One More

fides quaerens intellectum
#886
I haven't gotten my hands on Robert's new book, but for those of you who have, does he mention alien-like beings at all?  I am interested to hear what he has to say about this phenomena.  

THanks for the link Mc Arthur...and by the way, you know the individual who wrote that "Noonday Devil" thing?

fides quaerens intellectum
#887
Welcome to Astral Chat! / What Dreams May Come
July 02, 2002, 06:44:33
Hey, no problem!  I got scared when I read your post and thought, "Uh-oh, I hope I didn't spill the beans about some vital part of the story" and so I glanced over the thread and thought, you know, I don't think we spoiled anything...I mean myself and few others sort of talked about the plot, but we didn't spoil anything.  ANYWAY, I am glad we got that cleared up.  I really do look forward to hearing what you think of the book when you get a chance to read it.  I loved it and my father just finished it in like 3 days, so now I will continue to pass it on.  It's a good intro to OBE, NDE, etc. for people who may not know a lot about these things but enjoy a good story.  Happy trails!
-Dan

fides quaerens intellectum
#888
I found Paul's story, which seems more of a "non-fiction" relation of his own psychic attacks.  What does everyone make of this?  He also has a link to a photograph (near the end of his post) which I found to be frankly scary, how real it is I don't feel qualified to determine.  Anyway, here is what he had posted at strangeminds.com:

The Noonday Devil; Grey Alien Abductions
                      Written by: Paul_Schroeder


                      Abductions and their remnant elusive memories have opened all this for me,a
                      confirmed atheist until I saw aliens float me out of my body, in my bed at night. Then I
                      knew they were interested in an essence I never suspected I had - a soul.

                      Part of the alarming nature of the unknown is its mysterious link to the known; I awake
                      each night to a lewd exhibition of the merging. I open my eyes and turn to see the
                      digital alarm clock sitting on the lamp table next to my bed and see 12:12 am and
                      1:11 am and 2:22 am and 3:33 am and 4:44 am. This distresses me so badly upon
                      awakening that I cannot think; just a wave of panic that SOMETHING is waking me, as
                      the calculated odds of awakening each night precisely at those specific times is
                      astronomically impossible. The message intended seems to throw me off balance and
                      keep me wrapped in fearful confusion and lets me know that I am being toyed with but
                      yields no greater insight than to let me know that when I sleep I wander amongst
                      monsters and beasties.



                      Sometimes after abductions the interdimentional door, left open, invites the gangster
                      fringe element of the spirit world; sometimes demons are thrown into the equation as
                      spitework for attempts at thwarting abductions. But the unseen sinister world is as real
                      as the nose on your face.



                      The building, called Harold Hall, since renamed, perhaps stands four stories and
                      houses some eighty families. The basement area is the only place I've encountered
                      face to face the entity that followed me home and who stands gauntly by my bed at
                      night and delivers mind blowing dreams. It stands at the intersection of 92nd Street
                      and Fort Hamilton Parkway in brooklyn, not far from Shore Road on the Narrows and
                      abuts the old Army base still there, Fort Hamilton Army Base. I Know nothing of the
                      history of this building except that when I left, sure that anyone who entered the
                      basement would meet it, it seemed to have moved with me. I am straddling the fence
                      of the twilight zone surrounded by harassing, omnipresent, sinister, psychic, tenacious
                      entities whose presence fills me with wonder and indignation. Bless you for your
                      patience; the out-of-body attacks differ from my dreams in their vivid 3-D total
                      sensory envelopement and the inherent visciousness in provoking angst, realistic in
                      every way as compared to consciousness. The perspective is waking to find that I am
                      asleep wrapped in delusional thoughts and scenes, dreams so aligned with negative
                      thoughts that the scenarios reveal that they are imposed by virtue of their worst
                      scenario plots and their vividness. They, whomever these discorporate negative
                      thought entities are, are masters of delusions and I have recognized the raw power of
                      the vividness as more than my murky dream scenarios could ever muster and am
                      convinced that we are dead wrong about the nature of dreaming itself. At night your
                      astral body travels to realms from angelic to demonic, to a spirit world of myriad
                      vibrational levels and the pictures you see on the backs of your eyelids while you rem
                      are not dreams but visits, souvenirs of a greater reality. Like a goldfish who never
                      suspects a greater world beyond the ponds surface, the limited awareness of
                      humankind floats beneath the surface of a greater reality groping, mouth agape, in
                      total ignorance. Now, that's waxing my verbal virtuosity, dramatically.



                      Sadly, I've only met sharks, not the porpoises, in the ocean currents of
                      unconsciousness between 2 and 6 am and grounding is essential, but how? As we
                      struggle into consciousness each morning, a self-erasing mechanism destroys
                      memories of dreams. Only vague and vivid snippits remain as clues, but how many
                      people can recall dreams that were not dreams at all? I have recall for hours and days
                      afterwards of these impositions, unlike the general amnesia accompanying most of my
                      dreams, all of my life. I assure you that I have shockingly unlearned all Jungian and
                      Freudian concepts of dreams. It's only our own languag's impotence calling these
                      dreams. The Eskimos have myriad words for snow. We have only one word for dreams
                      that often are not dreams which we, ourselves, generate. My experiences, in the
                      extreme, illustrate this undigestible possibility to me. Paul, God bless you for the
                      chance to ventilate and exchange ideas in this horrid realm - horrid because that
                      attacks continue and vary in intensity to the point where I have tacitly accepted all
                      I've told you at the risk of denying everything about the mind and dreams I've ever
                      learned.



                      Description of haunting:

                      At night a large black shapeless mass turns out the lights while you are in the
                      labyrinth of mazes, hallways enroute to storage roomsin the back, and stands in your
                      way laughing evilly. There is a terror and a strong wave of hatred felt. Trying to retrace
                      your way in the darkness back towards the elevator, hugging the walls, brings air blown
                      onto the back of your neck, your name whispered in your ear and your clothing
                      clutched and plucked at by unseen hands. The presence is large and blacker than the
                      darkness surrounding it. You feel a sense of being watched and sense waves of intense
                      hatred which is undeniable. Flashlights fail and dim and blink out when you try to
                      outsmart its turning the lights out. The six floor apartment building ajuts the Fort
                      Hamilton Army Base a quarter mile away and is at the virtual foot of the Brooklyn side
                      of the Verrazzano Bridge. I have been the supt of that building between 1990 and
                      1999 and have encountered that entity through my denial to acceptance to raw fear of
                      it. It has intruded into my dreams, followed me into the elevator and into my bedroom
                      to evoke horrid worst scenario nightmares which betray that it knows my mind better
                      that I do. I avoided the basement, neglected my duties there and was subsequently
                      fired by the management office. This building stands at the intersection of 92nd Street
                      and Fort Hamilton Parkway in Brooklyn, New York. The psychic attacks continue,
                      nonetheless. I am drowsing over the bathroom sink half asleep and yawning,
                      supporting myself with my arms on both sides of the sink, tired, still half asleep naked,
                      when something brushes my face and loins, both just below the sink and just above my
                      face, above the sink. I open my bleary eyes and see an enormous conglomeration of
                      festooned fishhooks surrounding me, hanging from the ceiling across the sink. A
                      filigree chandelier of razor sharp connected fishhooks that I've stumbled onto, stark
                      naked, now with pinching sharp connections at my groin and lip and face that apprise
                      me, quickly panicking now, that I've been deeply hooked in myriad places, into my
                      genitals, pulling through my lip and my cheek and that to move backwards in shock or
                      panic flight is to deeply gaff myself further, inextricably and beyond help. I am
                      attached painfully and as I lift my right arm to gently work out the razor thin fishhook,
                      dozens of others fasten against and bite into my flesh scaring me further into
                      desperation and deeping my angst as I awaken, quickly now, to a gathering sense of
                      panic and helplessness. The hook in my cheek tears deeply into my mouth and the
                      fishhhooks unseen beneath the sink begin to bite deeper and more painfully into me. I
                      am a marionette impaled from face to scrotum and have wandered unknowing into this
                      macrome of razorblade-like fishhooks some madman must have concocted over my
                      sink in my bathroom. The slightest movement brings sharp, painful reminders that I
                      am stuck fast and in a nightmarish predictament I cannot solve as I am screaming, for
                      help from my wife who is asleep in the other room. Opening my mouth to holler, I feel
                      the deeper bite of the hook in the deep muscles of my face and I can only growl and
                      moan loudly, aware that I won't likely be able to reach her ears with my low moaning
                      and am becoming more entrapped with every movement. Like a monsterous windchime
                      of dangling fishhooks, I am trapped and my fear level climbs to near hysteria as I
                      awake suddenly in bed. Again I am aware of the imposed horror for etherial feasting
                      but dazzled at the raw power of the attack, the totality of sensory construction and the
                      visciousness inherent in the scenario. I am beset with demons, negative thought
                      entities who are malevolent and who know our minds much better than we do in
                      projecting telepathic sustained attack. How can you fight something you can't see?
                      This was the first of several creative virtual reality psychic attacks delivered on this
                      night and represent a continued program of spiritual and out of body attacks at the
                      hands of unseen entities who are clearly brilliantly malevolent and tenacious.



                      Submitted by Paul Schroeder for your comment and assistance. Some time ago a
                      friend of my wife's and a group of friends made a trip to historical sites in the Middle
                      East. During the tour she had a chance to visit a cave on one of the hills around the
                      holy city of Makkah. Inside, she was attracted by -she swears it was nothing but- a
                      bright light perched on the cave's wall, and took a picture of it. When she returned
                      home the rolls of film she used during the trip were developed. And she was surprised
                      to see a picture (attached) of a creature she never saw before in her life. She took the
                      picture and showed it to her spiritual teacher. The ustadzah explained that it was
                      Satan in one of its forms, as was described by her teacher decades ago while she was
                      still in school. Subhanallah! She made copies of the picture, my wife took one, and I
                      scanned it for you to see.

                      Click Here...



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                      http://www.abductions-alien.com/satan.jpg



                      The waves of sheer hatred, intense telepathic bursts of raw hatred felt by me in the
                      unseen presence of some of the harassing entities might well echo the demeanor of
                      this clearly interdimentional creature. Note the veination of the rock which bisects its
                      waist like a belt. It is transparent. Again I am convinced that, since a hateful bottom
                      spectrum of the unseen universe exists, I, too, have been grabbed and shaken by
                      demons, large, black, and strong as a bull and that a goodness, top-spectrum of the
                      unseen spirit world MUST exist. I have been snuck into faith by the rear door. The last
                      sentence of the letter accompanying this pix was: MAY ALLAH PROTECT US ALL
                      FROM DEVILS. The photo is authentic and, perhaps, the first I've ever seen of
                      ectoplasmic interdimentional evil. Note the ears and head area edges,unformed, and
                      the hooves and details of physiognomy. It has been suggested by UK experts that this
                      entity ALLOWED itself to be photographed as the rarity of such photos of such clarity
                      belies the elusiveness of these psychic mindreading sinister entities,i call
                      demons.They are horribly real and as psychic vampires are unparalleled.



                      The entity that tortured me was tenacious in following me everywhere I traveled and
                      made a point of letting me know it was with me as soon as I was sure I'd left it behind.
                      Doors would lock when I was showering although I was careful to leave all doors open.
                      Objects would move just within immediate sight and wild evil dreams at nighttime let
                      me know it was well with me despite my having traveled far. By all means, use my
                      comments and nightmare out-of-body attack scenario as a virtual experience.



                      Raw prayer to my spirit helpers to remove this dark entity has finally produced lasting
                      results. No horrid demonic nightmares or grey alien astral abductions have occured,
                      the result of a virtual miracle of faith and request. Seeing an evil, powerful,
                      attacking-with-nightmares demon removed by goodness is awe inspiring and
                      transforming and enlightening. Abductions and their remnant elusive memories have
                      opened all this for me, a confirmed atheist, until I saw aliens float me out of my body,
                      in my bed at night. Then I knew they were interested in an essence that I never
                      suspected I had - a soul.

                      Your astral body travels at night to realms from angelic to demonic, a spirit world of
                      myriad vibrational levels and the pictures you see on the backs of your eyelids while
                      you rem, are not dreams but visits, souvenirs of a greater reality. Like a goldfish who
                      never suspects a greater world beyond the pond's surface, the limited awareness of
                      humankind floats beneath the surface of a greater reality, groping, mouth agape, in
                      total ignorance. Aliens have failed to hybridize and now invade astrally to abduct,
                      monitor, possess, and to entangle their energies with ours to ride the reincarnation
                      rollercoaster of our auras giving a new meaning to a silent invasion. These are my
                      experiences.



                      www.davidicke.net/emagazine/vol16/articles/schroeder1.html



                      www.illuminati-news.com/schroederbooklet.html



                      www.illuminati-news.com/real_life.htm



                      http://davidicke.com/icke/magazine/vol-4/tapping.html



                      http://www.50megs.com/davidicke/icke/magazine/vol7/metdot.html



                      http://www.davidicke.com/icke/magazine/vol6/priest.html



                      Within a blackness, a voice intoning, resonant and deep, over and over and over. What
                      a beautiful child, such a lovely child. I am walking to a parade. Excited blare of crowds
                      and distant drums and trumpets propel me foward, holding two children, one in each
                      hand, as I rush expectantly eager that these small two experience the thrill and joy of
                      what is obviously a people-lined event just ahead. In my right hand is a small child of
                      perhaps six, in the other a frail, grey, long-armed and long-legged sickly tubular
                      creature-child who couldn't keep up. I swept this odd child up onto my shoulders and
                      felt its joy. It was a handicapped, ailing entity, sadly listless and lifeless. The scene
                      changed, as did the perspective. I was looking down at this tubular diapered child on a
                      bed as I heard that deep resonant voice suggest that I change its diaper. I was never
                      an eager changer of diapers with my own children when they were babies, choosing
                      sometimes to neglectfully leave a full ripe pungent baby for their mother to change,
                      who was due home any moment. I recoiled at the suggestion to nurture and care for it.
                      Both the creature and its toilet needs clearly repulsed me as I examined it closely. I
                      awoke, convinced that my experience was similar to others in attempts to have
                      offspring reunited with somatic abductee parents for nurturance as these hybrids seem
                      to be expiring. And that the word we use, dreams, is simply an inpotent problem with
                      our language's inability to describe it, the experience, in any other way.



                      Mass abductions are the taking of many people in an area at the same time, folding
                      time and space in a manner beyond belief so that time missed is not noticed by
                      abductees. As a loose rule, abductees' soul-personalities have agreed to participate
                      in these abductions at a distant point in time as a spiritual agreement and these
                      people are often virtual peace offerings between warring alien factions as somatic
                      banks to periodically retrieve somatic tissue from people with alien DNA, Most
                      abductees have alien DNA. They locate us as children to begin this tampering and it
                      continues regularly throughout life. I refuse to acknowledge this agreement as this
                      particular personality of mine has been purposely made aware of these intrusions and
                      as such reflect a clear violation of spiritual rights. I have dragged my feet and refused
                      cooperation. They change tactics and redouble their efforts. I enlist the spiritual help
                      from the same dimension that they use to enter and they lend demons into the
                      equation as spitework, muddling the picture. Tell yourself that you will remember and
                      vague and vivid snippits will remain which you can unfurl at leisure by worrying the
                      edges of the snippet - what happened just before and just after will intrude, slowly,u
                      ntil a fuller grasp entails. They now give me screen memories that are dreamlike in
                      nature and wrap me in general blackness at other times so that I awake with
                      nosebleeds, scoop marks and exhaustion without vivid remnants to recall. But the
                      screen memories are so aligned with their negative thoughts that the scenarios reveal
                      that they are imposed by virtue of their worst scenario plots and their vividness. They
                      are masters of delusions and can have you dreaming a snug little dream while they
                      march you around their craft for various nefarious purposes, and most are none the
                      wiser. I resent and frustrate their entrances, approaches and goals when I resist and
                      their tempers ill befit the advanced technology they have. Since they primarily wait
                      until you are in rem sleep, lucid dreaming works well to detect and interact with them
                      and is worth all the trouble it takes to master techniques of lucid dreaming. Prayer
                      works only if it is effective and repetitious and none of the standard appeals to saints
                      and Jesus works, but repeating GOD over and over does set up a different vibrational
                      level that can instantly end an abduction if one had the presence of mind. That's where
                      lucid dreaming comes in. Despair not, as they are psychic and have implants within
                      you that see and hear what you do, repeat often and with severe indignation to leave
                      you alone, now and forever. They'll hear you and then wait and see their reaction.
                      Never fear, they feed etherially from negative fears. Love them away and they'll be
                      puzzled enough to sit down and think things over before they come again. Remember
                      that creeping anxiety is the signature symptom of their intrusion and that if you feel
                      that fear building then they're aleady inside. Treat the anxiety as though it were a
                      person and order it away in the name of God. You'll see that the feeling abates
                      instantly but like yellow jackets at a picnic they unerringly try again, over and over.
                      Fighting them is a 24 hour, 365 day job from now on.

                      I, too, am convinced that effective repeated prayer that repells can and does work for
                      me, intermittently. The entities who abduct are unseen but the entities who assess the
                      testing I've been submitted to are flat like a gumby charactor, white like a refrigerator,
                      tall, hooded and telepathic in nature. The brain is somehow detached from the front of
                      the brain, where one's shoe hangs before one's eyes but one can't discern just what it
                      is. That's what looking out of the crafts window and seeing nebulae and stars was like,
                      precisely stated. The perspective was waking to find me asleep, wrapped in delusional
                      thoughts and scenes. I later discovered that these entities, just outside of sight, were
                      keeping me and a host of others during a mass abduction on short, psychic, surreal
                      leashes of control while manipulating them around the craft for various purposes. The
                      psychic nature of these entities is most uncannily canny and most who experience an
                      abduction will not recall being inside an alien craft or will dismiss these vivid
                      flashbacks as dreams. My only clue was waking with the joy of dreaming about a
                      wonderful wood inlaid staircase that brought me a rapture. It was unfurling backwards
                      in my mind. The events around the picture, and joy recalled at the staircase that
                      revealed it, was a ploy to erase the stars and nebulae I'd seen outside the window; a
                      cruel mind controlling taunt that ultimately backfired for the controlling mind reading
                      entity that imposed it. There is much yet to be remembered.



                      http://www.angelfire.com/zine/TheHaunt/theories.html


                      http://www.bridgeoflove.com/bookstore/icke/magazine/vol16/articles/schroeder1.html


                      http://www.davidicke.com/icke/magazine/vol6/priest.html


                      http://www.50megs.com/davidicke/icke/magazine/vol7/metdot.html


                      http://www.abductions-alien.com/user001.html


                      http://www.davidicke.net/emagazine/vol4/tapping.html


                      http://www.strangeminds.com/work.cfm?workid=182


                      http://www.darksites.com/souls/goth/blackflower/demons.html


                      http://www.strangeminds.com/work.cfm?WorkID=432


                      http://www.abductions-alien.com/satan.jpg

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#889
In the future, you can always let one of the moderators know (Adrian) and he can take care of anything along these lines.  I love this site too much to let it be polluted with filth.  I recently heard someone call pornography "toxic waste for the spirit"...

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#890
Welcome to Astral Chat! / What Dreams May Come
July 02, 2002, 01:02:09
First of all FallenAngel, I don't think I personally put any spoilers in my posts did I?  Regardless if I did or not I will edit the opening message and write "SPOILERS".

Anyway, STEPHEN about soul mates, I truly think the phenomena does exist insomuch that in my opinion every experience in life has meaning and some of it has to do with fate and our higher selves.  I don't pretend to understand how it all works, but someday I think we will...and I think we will realize that certain relationships, including family relations, were the consequence of decisions we made before this life.

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#891
Interesting you mention this idea, I too am writing a story right now that has something to do with astral projection.  It's really more of a story of redemption and seeking ones own identity.  It's a lot harder to write than I had previusly anticipated and at times it's hard to find the motivation required to develop character, etc. but I am determined.  Anyone know about publishing and how you contact them, etc?  I have a few books, etc. but I would like some practical information.

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#892
Welcome to Astral Chat! / THIS MAKES ME SAD
June 30, 2002, 00:06:50
Vast majority in U.S. support 'under God'
June 29, 2002 Posted: 5:28 PM EDT (2128 GMT)


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NEW YORK (CNN) -- Nearly nine in 10 Americans believe the phrase "under God" should remain in the Pledge of Allegiance, and most believe it is acceptable for the government to promote religious expression, as long as no specific religion is mentioned, according to a Newsweek poll.

The poll, released Saturday, also found that while a majority of Americans think it is likely that terrorist attacks will be carried out during the upcoming Fourth of July holiday, most aren't planning to alter their plans.

The margin of error in the poll of 1,000 adults conducted Thursday and Friday was plus or minus 4 percentage points.

On Wednesday, the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco ruled the Pledge of Allegiance was an unconstitutional endorsement of religion because it contains the phrase "under God," which was added in 1954.

Asked if the Pledge should contain the phrase "under God," 87 percent of those polled by Newsweek said yes and only 9 percent said no. Asked if the government should avoid promoting religion in any way, 36 percent said yes, but 54 percent said no, and 60 percent of poll respondents said they think it is good for the country when government leaders publicly express their faith in God.

Only 12 percent of those polled thought the government should eliminate all references to God and religions belief in schools, government buildings and other public settings, while 84 percent said such references are acceptable, as long as they don't mention a specific religion.

The poll found that 45 percent of Americans hold the view that the United States is a secular nation in which religious belief, or lack of it, isn't a defining characteristic. Twenty-nine percent believe the United States is a Christian nation, and another 16 percent believe the United States is a Biblical nation, defined by the Judeo-Christian tradition.

In regard to possible Fourth of July terrorist attacks, 12 percent of those polled thought an attack was very likely and 45 percent said it was somewhat likely. Thirty-nine percent thought it was not too likely or not at all likely.

Despite that concern, only 37 percent indicated that their plans would be affected in any way, and less than a quarter of those polled said they would avoid traveling, flying, visiting large cities such as New York or Washington or attending events in crowded public places such as theme parks or sports arenas.

Pledge of Allegiance
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.  






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#893
Welcome to Astral Chat! / THIS MAKES ME SAD
June 29, 2002, 01:01:01
I guess it comes down to this:  I believe in God.  I believe He exists and loves us.  I don't feel at al ashamed to show loyalty, devotion and love to Him for the freedoms I enjoy.  At the same time I don't pressure or force anyone to feel the same as I do, therefore if a parent or child doesn't want to say the pledge of allegiance, fine, have them sit quietly or stand reverently and not recite it.  

I feel that people like this man are imposing their will and forcing others to do as they say.  Anyway, no matter how much flak I take for this I stand by my God and I do it proudly.  No matter what you want to say, this country was founded my those who believed in God and trusted in Him.  Not everything done in the name of God is supported by God, but I don't feel this is any reason to wipe out the word "God" from every aspect of society.  And no, I don't think aethists are evil... in fact I don't believe there truly exists an "pure atheist" for everyone worships something, whether it be themselves, money, a principle, an idea, a hope, their career, etc.  I, like many others, strive to worship and become more like God and I see Him wherever I turn, in the trees, in the sky, in the astral and in the eyes of every man and woman regardless of their race or belief system.

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#894
I suffered extensively from night terror and not until I began researching OBE, etc. did I begin to put two and two together.  I remember having a reoccuring nightmare in which a feeling of chaos pervaded.  I also remember sensing a "dual" presence as well as not being able to distinguish real life from dream, ie. waking state from real time?

Suffice to say when I have children of my own I will be much morepreapred for if/when they experience this than my own parents were.  My parents always chalked things up to "bad dreams", how "bad" they cannot imagine.

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#895
Aplha-

I too enjoy uour posts, and even more so now that you divide your thoughts into paragraphs.  ANyway, I agree with you that everyone in this forum strives to be peaceful and receptive to one another's thoughts and opinions.  It's obvious that many of us disagree about many things, but a feeling of respect and understanding always permeates the posts.

Good luck with everything...

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#896
quote:
In order to make contact with more spiritually-developed entities, you must first gain a reasonable degree of control of your own Astral experience.


I agree with the above statement in general, although it is always possible to pray for help to recieve guidance on a more or less conscious level.  The desire to recieve help, as Frank also stated, is sometimes sufficient to summon the aid of a positive entity.

Frank, I have a question for you: how do you know if the help you are recieving is free of deciet?


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#897
Welcome to Astral Chat! / What Dreams May Come
June 27, 2002, 22:04:57
Mobius-

The depiction of the consequence of suicide is much different in the novel than the film and I personally attribute this to the fact that when the screen play was written I am sure they decided the major part of audiences wouldn't have found it compelling in the film because it is much to realisitic and depressing.  Although books have to be altered for film, it's tragic that some of the alterations are made simply to make sure the film will appeal to a wider audinence and make more money.  

I too have found that most people who see this film regard it as purely fantastic when in reality it should truly evoke some very introspective feelings. Anyway, I wasn't all that pleased with the end of the novel, and a few things in the book I disagree with completely, but all in all it's an EXCELLENT read and is definetly food for thought.  A lot of what is written is dead on, excuse the pun!  Please let me know how you like the book once you've read it, or even begun it!  
-Dan

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#898
Welcome to Astral Chat! / THIS MAKES ME SAD
June 27, 2002, 21:55:02
I'll I have to say is this: this country was formed by good, righteous men who believed in God and in personal agency, free agency.  The man behind this is atheist and I am going to have a big smile on my face when this ruling is over turned by the Supreme Court...just wait and see.

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#899
MORE:

What if you had to give an account of your life when you die?
In "The Limited," an award winning short film written and directed by Katherine Mackinney, John Hansen is about to find out.





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#900
Welcome to Astral Chat! / What Dreams May Come
June 26, 2002, 15:40:42
RICHARD MATHESON

The following details about Richard Matheson and the book "What Dreams May Come" were found at the Tor Website

Date Of Birth - 1926
Born - New Jersey
Lives - Richard Matheson has lived and worked in California since 1951
Some Awards He Has Won - The World Fantasy Convention's Life Achievement Award, the Bram Stoker Award for Life Achievement, the Hugo Award, the Edgar Allan Poe Award, the Golden Spur Award, The Writer's Guild Award
Some Television Scripts He Has Written - Some episodes of The Twilight Zone, including "Nightmare at 20,000 Feet" (the one where William Shatner sees a gremlin on the wing of the plane), "The Invaders," and "Little Girl Lost."  Episodes of Have Gun, Will Travel, Night Gallery, Star Trek (including the episode called "The Enemy Within," in which Captain Kirk is split into good and evil halves).
Novels And Stories Made Into Films - The Shrinking Man (filmed as "The Incredible Shrinking Man" in 1957), I Am Legend (filmed twice, once as "The Last Man on Earth" starring Vincent Price in 1964, and again as "The Omega Man" starring Charlton Heston in 1971), and Bid Time Return (filmed as "Somewhere in Time" starring Christopher Reeve and Jane Seymour in 1980).
Movie Scripts He Has Written - Duel (Stephen Spielberg's first feature film), the TV-movie The Night Stalker, and several of Roger Corman's Edgar Allan Poe films, including House of Usher (1960), The Pit and the Pendulum (1961), and The Raven (1963).
Quotes About Richard Matheson By Some Famous Authors - Ray Bradbury - "One of the most important writers of the 20th century"
Stephen King - "The author who influenced me most as a writer,"
Dean Koontz - "We're all a lot richer to have Richard Matheson among us."



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