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[Originally posted by Patty:]

quote:Originally posted by Patty:
Introspective
Sensitive
Reflective



You come to grips more frequently and thoroughly with yourself and your environment than do most people. You detest superficiality; you'd rather be alone than have to suffer through small talk. But your relationships with your friends are very strong, which gives you the inner tranquility and harmony that you require. You do not mind being alone for extended periods of time; you rarely become bored.


Patty

Patty....surprise, surprise.  I picked the same one as you!


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[Originally posted by Windameir:]

quote:Originally posted by Windameir:
Tisha
I had read Carlos Castenedas books probably about 15 years ago what are the last books you are refering too I haven't looked for his work in many years the last books I read I think werr  the Eagles Gift and the Fire from Within. I would be greatly interested to know if he has written more.

I never read any of Carlos' books, mainly because I didn't know if it would be too "out there" for me, you know?  Plus, didn't he get a lot of his astral experiences from some sort of drug?  Forgive me if I'm wrong, because again, I have never read his material.

The last two books I bought this week were:

1) Working With Your Chakras by Ruth White
2) Genesis Revisted by Zecheria Sitchin




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[Originally posted by KarenW:]

quote:Originally posted by KarenW:
Nosra, I am also new at this, but I have been seeing auras the last few days. For instance, I was talking to my friend the other day and I clearly saw around her a white aura and a light green outline. I looked away from her and looked at her again thinking I was just staring to long but it was there again. I was at work yesterday and a co-worker was talking to me and I saw bright red around her head. Again I looked away and turned to look at her again and it was there. I had to tell her about it. I think she thought I was weird but it was so vivid. I hope this helps a little. Karen

Karen, that sounds just like what I experience.  It's funny because I saw the light green/white color around my hand when I looked at it last night.  Pretty cool stuff.  



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[Originally posted by Tisha:]

quote:Originally posted by Tisha:
Hi!  I'm new to this section, and haven't had a chance to read all the posts yet.  Perhaps the answer is already hidden there.  Oh what the heck, here goes!

I don't see auras, but a few years ago someone told me my aura shifted from blinding white to rainbow multicolors in a kind of flowing way.  At the time she mentioned this, it was 2 am and I was tired.  The next day, she said I was all bright white, no rainbow colors.

So, what was up with that?

I'm not sure how to answer your question, Tisha, but like you, I am new to this section of the board.  From an early age, I guess I have seen aura's, although I never KNEW that is what I was looking at.  I always figured it was an optical illusion or something.  

For example, whenever I would hear people speak in front of a group (like teachers, pastors, etc), I would be staring at them, and I could see an outline of white light around them.  I just figured that this is a normal after effect of what the physical eyes will do to something when you look at it long enough.  However, after doing a lot of reading, I am "thinking" that I may be looking at people's aura's now.  I'm still rather skeptical about it, because it seems so easy for me to do.

So last night, I began to look into this further.  I held my hand up in front of my face with a light colored background.  Sure enough, within 5 seconds or so, my eyes adjusted, and I saw a bright white/greenish color glow all around my hand.  It's pretty trippy when you think about it.

So is this my aura or my eyes playing tricks on me?  I guess I will know the more I play around with it.  But if this is my eyes, then I wonder why everyone can't do this as easily as I can.


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[Originally posted by clandestino:]

quote:Originally posted by clandestino:
I read Robert Bruce's book recently, and I am fascinated by how he described the astral plane.

Please forgive me if this question has come up before...I'd like to ask those people who have had several projection experiences :
1) How does the astral plane look / feel / sound etc ?

From my experience, it's suprisingly very similar to the world which you know now.  Of course, I'm sure this is due to me projecting mainly in the real time zone, or a level close to it.  Most of the time, when I get out, it's so REAL that I have to thrust my arm through a wall just to prove to myself that I am truly out!

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2) Are your experiences similar / identical / different to Robert Bruce's observations ?

Some of mine are similiar.  Then again, he is much more experienced that me, so he has seen things that I can only imagine right now.  A lot of what you see and experience is due to your emotional state at the time, and how well you can keep calm through the situation.



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[Originally posted by CP:]

quote:Originally posted by CP:
Hi,
I woke up with the intent of OBE, but before I could do a tech., I fell asleep. I had a spontaneous OBE, I woke up to being electrically shocked, then rolled out of body. I stood up and regained my vision (I remember blinking).  I don't really know what happened after that, but I wan't conscious. This is so cool. Does anyone have any tips on how to stay conscious, and how to induce these conscious OBE more frequently?
Thanks,
CC

Usually when I am "out" I can start to feel when my experience begins to be difficult to control.  For example, I will be flying over some neighborhood houses, and I'll start to feel something tugging at me to return.  I usually take 3 or 4 deep astral breaths, and this seems to draw energy into me.  From there, it's like I get a second wind, the experience becomes more vivid, and I continue on with my journey.

Just thought I would mention my "Astral breath" technique, since it alway seems to work for me.  Not to mention, it's such an awesome feeling to just take in some good astral air!  It's so fresh and invigorating!



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I pretty much agree with you, Tisha.  THe way I differentiate my experiences is as follows.

When I am having an OBE, I am in full control of everything.  If I want to turn left, I turn left.  If I want to fly on top og my neighbors roof, I do so.  

However, sometimes, I have been in mid-OBE when I have felt my control wither away.  The best way I can describe this is like I go in "auto-pilot" mode.  I still experience a high degree of lucidity, but the experience begins to take on a dream-like quality in which I can't control.  

For example, after one OBE where I got out in front of my house, I ended up losing control of my actions and then I watched as the scene continued without me making conscious choices.  I continued on talking to people, etc. but I wasn't initiaiting anything.  It was as if my "subconscious" was on autopilot and my awareness was along for the ride.  I always considered those types of lucid experiences as LD's.

I hope that makes sense, and I feel it still proves that your theory is correct.




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[Originally posted by fallnangel77:]

quote:Originally posted by fallnangel77:
Since there was a post about John Edward I thought we might as well discuss this as well. I saw a show on tv last night called Pet Psychic on the Animal Planet channel. This woman says she can communicate with animals telepathicly. I have never heard of anyone being able to do this, other than in fictional works. Has anyone else ever heard of this? Is anyone on here able to do this? On the one hand, if people can communicate with other people telepathicly why not animals? On the other hand, would you really be able to understand an animal's thoughts if you could read their mind? I am curious what others think.

Yeah, I know exactly who you are talking about.  I saw one show where she looked at this cat, and she was like "Your cat is mad because you ignore her."

Gee Sherlock, looks like you made a hit with that prediction.



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[Originally posted by stryfe:]

quote:Originally posted by stryfe:
I have been told by a firend that I have no aura, and that she feels a sence of doom whenever we are in the same room. This is not the only person to tell me this, I have been told by her mother who is sympathatic that there is something un-natural about me.

Hmmm...maybe because you're from Canada?  

Just kidding.  Let me ask you....why would you be a friend with someone who feels some sort of perpetual DOOM whenever they are around you?  I would probably laugh at their assumptions and go on my merry way.  Hell, if these people considered you to be normal, that means you would be like them, and no offense, but it sounds like you'd be better off sweeping up elephant dung at the local zoo than hang around these wack jobs!



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RodentMouse,

One more thing you may want to try, for poops and giggles.  Have you ever tried to wake yourself up with an alarm clock really early in the morning?  I used to do this when I first started out.  WHat you can do is wake up about 3 hours before you normally get up.  Stay awaye for about 15 minutes, walking around or sitting up and reading about OBE's.  Then come back to bed.  What happens is that you'll slip into this relaxed, trance state MUCH easier.  The imagery will come almost immedietely, and you can shift into an OBE quicker.

I only say that becuase 75.2% of my OBE's usually happen after I get up in the middle of the night, go potty, and then lay back down.  I'll drift off to sleep, but not long afterwards, I will snap back to awareness and "get out!"

Patty: I love reading your posts, honey!  It's good to know that I have an astral counterpart out there whose experiences are very similar to mine!


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[Originally posted by rodentmouse:]

quote:Originally posted by rodentmouse:
thanks jeff_mash nad patti....

Jeff,   i thought the key to OBE WAS to keep fully aware,  i didnt know that at some point you had to let go and drift of into sleep.  

You're right when you say the key is to be aware.  However, you must be PASSIVELY aware.  Imagine being a spectator, just someone on the sidelines watching that thing called your body drifting further and further into a relaxed state.  I think a lot of people assume that being aware means still being "awake."  Therein lies the key.  You can be 100% aware while your body is 100% asleep.

quote:
The thing with the hypnogogic imagery jeff is that  its just a dream to me,  i only realise i was seeing the images when i actually snap back into the NOW  hence it was my unconsiouss doing the work at not my own consiouss effort.  
Has   simply letting go and drifting to sleep what everyone on these boards does?  i must have missed something

That would be a good question.  Again, I am of the opinion that almost all people drift off into some state of "Sleep" before they experience this shift of consciousness.  It's just that some may do it within seconds of falling asleep, and others take an hour.

quote:
so should i now once i raise energy and acheive a light trance, try to let go and let my subconsious desire do the rest??

Sure, try anything that you haven't tried before.  You may be surprised at the results.  Just keep in mind that while you are drifting from a light trance to a deep one, give yourself afffirmations that you WILL get out of body tonight.

quote:
everytime i have fallen into a hypnogogic vision,  i bring myself back because i knew that if i didnt bring myself back i would have fallen asleep?

That is good, because by bringing yourself back, you are making your trance deeper and still working on this "snap back reflex", for lack of a better term.  Hey, I like that one!

quote:
ive just this second thought.......is it my subconsious which is bringing me back  from the visions?

I think it might be YOU who is bringing you back, because you're watching and waiting for an OBE, so anything that happens out of the norm, you get jumpy and wonder if "this is it."  If anything, it's your subsconcious that is taking you further down, not bringing you back to an awake, physical state.


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You describe a lot of things that I think we have all experienced.  If I may be so bold, I would say that if you lay in this trance state and keep snapping back to your NOW awareness, then you aren't deep enough to go OBE.

When I do my relaxation techniques, like you, I get to a point where I see some cool hypnogogic imagery, and suddenly, my focus shifts back to my body.  Instead of getting discouraged, I relax even more, because I know that I am heading into the right direction.  The fact that you

a) saw something cool and
b) brought attention back to your body

means that you are slowly slipping deeper into a trance state.  For me, the longer I continue doing this, the MORE imagery I begin to see, and the LESS I begin to focus on the body.  Eventually, you will be engulfed in imagery, and if your trance is right, you will snap back to consciousness and experience exit related symptoms.  Sometimes, this could happen within seconds of drifting off.  Other times, you may drift off to sleep for 90 minutes.  The important part is PREPARING mentally for an OBE, so when you do drift off, your subconscous will remember your original intention and bring you back for your journey!


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[Originally posted by ZPE:]

quote:Originally posted by ZPE:
Sorry, I'm sure this has been brought up before, but here it goes.  Has anybody ever planned a Meeting with somebody from the Physical Plane, and Met Up With Them on the Astral Plane?  If so, how did you do it, and how was it?  I'm very interested in this, and would like to try it with somebody from the Net, and then Describe what they look like, where they were, etc.  

Cheers.

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I tried this with another astral projector friend of mine.  Although I didn't have any luck getting out, she did...and she was able to describe my room to me in detail.  The key is to focus on this person when you are out of body, and try to hone it on them.  Although I have had probably over 100 OBE's, I have yet to target someone like that.  Most of the time, I get out and my mind blanks because there is just so much to do!



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[Originally posted by rodentmouse:]

quote:Originally posted by rodentmouse:
thanks for the feedback,   i beleive  i have had astral sight but i can only maintain it for a few seconds as i get over-excited....

I  think it was astral sight, but it was in another part of my house which would be impossible to see from where i train for OBE's.  
So...
IS astral sight limeted to  where your physical  vision would be limeted to?

No, you can astrally "see" anything.  I believe some would call this form of astral site "clairvoyance."



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[Originally posted by jilola:]

quote:Originally posted by jilola:
I tend to believe the old explanation that earthbound spirits stay behind because they have some unfinished issues that they are unable to let go.(are they necessary ghosts? Aren't there spirits that normally inhabit the planes close to the physical, like guides, the famed ferryman of the souls etc)

This parallels the problem of having an OBE. We need to let go of the physical body and acccept the new plane of existence for the duration. Any earthly concerns or thoughts and residual attachment to the physical body tend to prevent us from exiting.  Similarly at death the soul has to let go in order to proceed naturally from physical plane to the spiritual planes.

2cents

jouni

A good movie which illustrates this kind of attatchment, in my opinion, is "What Dreams May Come" with Robin Williams.


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[Originally posted by rodentmouse:]

quote:Originally posted by rodentmouse:
hello to the people
I have some questions........

is astral sight just another word for hypnogogic imagery???

In my opinion, no.  When I see hypnogogic energy, to me that is exactly what it is: imagery.  They are images that I see before me that I am not controlling.

Astral site, to me, is when I can see whole environments and they are stable.  They aren't changing every other second like hypnogogic imagery.  

quote:
is  weather or not you get astral sight down to how developed  the brow chakra is???

I wouldn't know about this.  I don't really do any chakra work, so if mine is developed, it's a natural development without my knowledge.

quote:
and should astral  sight be in the real-time-zone?

I would say no, astral site could be in any zone.


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Hey there Grenade....

I am a newbie to this board, but I still wanted to say "What's up?"  My name is Jeff (there is more about me on my profile).  Glad to see you back, and hopefully, your metaphysical activities will kick in again!


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[Originally posted by rodentmouse:]

quote:Originally posted by rodentmouse:
for anyone who can answer it...

how do you actually know when you have seperated from your physical body???   are the wooshing sounds, buzzing, paralysis and vibrations all necessary criteria for seperation???

RodentMouse,

This usually depends on the person and the individual experience.  ALthough I have heard loud noises before, usually I will separate with just a really "airy sound."  

Have you ever flown in an airplane?  Sometimes, when you turn on the little air nozzle above your head, you hear this hissing sound.  I usually hear that when I am separating.  After that, all seems rather quiet for me.

However, I would think that depending on your mental state, you could hear any number of things (popping, music, screams, voices, etc.)




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Thanks guys (and gals),

I'm glad you like the website.  I put a lot of hard time and effort into it.  It was even mentioned on Entertainment Tonight last year, without my knowledge.  I thought that was pretty cool.

Anyway....

Patty....you sure did have me pictured wrong!  Hopefully, I didn't scare you by my real appearance!  You can always hear me talk in this first video I made: http://myjokemail.com/movies/MyFirstVideo_Med.wmv



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[Originally posted by Clarissa:]

quote:Originally posted by Clarissa:
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What do you mean, "target them"?

In other words, someone to focus on.  Many times, when I try to OBE, I lose focus and simply fall asleep.  If I knew that someone else at that exact same time was trying to OBE and focusing on me, then it might help to keep your mind on track and not let it slip away.

quote:
<<-::smiles boyishly:: Let me just clarify, for the record, that I don't feel up all these women when I am out! It happens every now and then, and always as the experience is ending.>>

It happens every now and then?  Somehow I got the impression that it happens every time you're out and about doing errands or something.

Now what do you mean when you say "as the experience is ending?"

By that, I mean that when I'm out, I usually start to feel myself losing control.  This happens if I allow myself to get too excited from being out of my body, or if I move too fast.  Once I start to feel these things, I know that I'm most likely going to end the experience soon and return.

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Now that sounds like a good astral self-defense mechanism I could use!!!!!!  Thanks!!!!!!http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile_big.gif" border=0>

Sure thang!  Glad I could help in your astral karate lesson for the day.  Speaking of which, check out the latest video I published on my website today: http://myjokemail.com/videos/NeverTrustAWoman.htm



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[Originally posted by Clarissa:]

quote:Originally posted by Clarissa:
Naughty boy Mr. Mash.  That evil smile gave me a chuckle for some reason, though.  You haven't had astral sex yet, but you get worked up giving it.  Wait until you receive it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Ah man, get ready for some mind-boggling intensity.

Yeah, that's what I hear!  Well, if it happens, it happens.  If not, I usually think of other things to do while I am out...like extending the experience as long as possible.  I'm not sure if any of you do this here on this board, but we should pair up with people and see if we can target them.  An old astral friend of mine did that with me, and although I wasn't able to get out to see her, she came to me and verified what my room (at the time) looked like.

quote:Originally posted by Clarissa:
Now take a look at this interesting experiment I conducted not long ago:  I gave a male friend of mine an astral "hug".  This male friend is not psychic and he did not "receive" my hug.  The next day I gave a female friend of mine an astral hug, and she "received" it just fine!  This female friend of mine though is psychic, so it appears that both parties have to be psychic to give and receive astral affections and other things....  And Jeff, I'm wondering if those women you "touch" can feel your fingers in there...  Do you see any reactions???

::smiles boyishly::  Let me just clarify, for the record, that I don't feel up all these women when I am out!  It happens every now and then, and always as the experience is ending.  However, I can tell you one thing.  They are usually surprised (as in, "Ooohhhhh what's this?") or they enjoy it.  I have yet to have someone astrally kick me in the balls, if you know what I'm saying!




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I agree with Tisha.  http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile_wink.gif" border=0>  

Astral sight and hypnogogic imagery are two different things.  When I am looking at hypnogogic imagery, I usually see things in my minds eye.  All is black, but images are coming before me and I simply watch them passively.

Astral sight, on the other hand, is something I have experienced many times.  Usually, I find myself laying in bed, looking at the room around me, and then it hits me that my eyes are really closed.  I'm sure at that point, I could probably roll out and have an OBE, but usually, if I'm just laying there using astral sight, that means I am too tired to actually roll out and have an astral experience.


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Astralmaster/Rodent dude,

It's a little hard to explain.  For me, I just KNOW when I'm able to have an OBE, and when I'm still in a trance state.  This usually happens once I have drifted off to sleep, and suddenly, my consciousness snaps back to full awareness.  There is (usually) an absence of sound, and in this moment, I feel that I am disconnected from my body slightly.  That is when I roll out to my left and I'm free to roam around!

Now, although I am not physically rolling, whenever you are in that out of body state, it couldn't feel more real!  It always amazes me when I do roll out that I'm not physically doing it.  Most of the time, in order to fully convince myself that I am out, I have to thrust my arm through a wall, or else I would think that I really rolled out of bed!


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I remember when I first read about the roll out technique, I was a bit apprehensive to try it.  However, now it is the most common way that I get out of body.  I simply twist and roll out onto the ground below me.

Depending on how much control I have, I sometimes have to crawl out of the room before I can get my bearings and stand without being pulled back in.

Other times, I roll out as walk away, knowing that I have enough energy to stay out for awhile.

Anyway, once you roll out, you will see how much easier it is to get out of the body, and you might just find yourself using that method of exit more than any other!


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A few years ago, I woke up in the morning after having a dream.  At the foot of my bed was the figure of an older woman.  She simply turned and walked through my door and out of site.  The second that happened, we lost all power to the house for a couple of seconds.

That night, my grandfather died while I was holding her hand.  So was this spirit I saw earlier my grandmother, saying goodbye to me?  At the time of my seeing it, she had already slipped into a coma, so she wasn't physically conscious enough to say goodbye to her family.

You decide.


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