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There have been several times where I have laid down to meditate and not only did I start hearing the high pitched ringing I tend to hear ever so often quite obnoxiously, but the actual frequencies seemed to be modulating. Like the pitch would literally go higher and higher and back down again! So for say 10 seconds I would hear a ringing lets say at a "C note" and then it would raise to a D note for another 10 seconds, then to an E note - on and on and finally to the highest pitch possible, then back down again. Other times its not so much consecutive, but rather a low pitch for example to high pitch to and in between, etc. After hearing that sort of ringing a few times, idk I just felt there was an intelligence behind it. On psychedelics the sounds get even crazier. They become almost tangible, a lot like OBEs with the humming and pops etc.

uhm ive seen that on salvia a few times, it was like a green grid.

I think what he is experiencing may be very real. I have been there. And everyone thought that I was BONKERS. He may seem paranoid but I trust that he has his reasons. Reasons we may not be able to understand with our perception at this point.

Horaciocs,

EDIT: My post was more inclined to a "do they use AP?" question. Regarding they stopping us from reaching it, I believe it might even be happening. Some magnectic field interference, satelites, it could all be aimed to keeping us drowned in the physical. But that's just speculation.

Initially I skimmed through your response and went back to the main forum. But that last thing you said triggered something in me. Summer of 08 I had a spontaneous kundalini awakening. I didnt know what was happening at the time, it didnt hit home untill about two months into it that that was the case. Before it happened, moments before, I was pleading with the beings that were surrounding me to not do whatever they were about to do. I didnt believe it was the right place or time for it. I didnt think I would be able to handle it. They werent havin any of that though and off it went. A few days ago I decided to take the time to write down the visions/vibes I was getting at the time. As I was doing this I realized, or wondered rather, if maybe the reason it started off as beautiful and ended in a much darker way was because from the very beginning I was resisting the process or it could have just been my shadow coming through? (But there could be a lot of other reasons as well, including the fact that i ended up in a mental hospital for a short period of time, etc. etc. the list goes on) But basically, I dont know if this was symbolic or I was just percieving things in a negative light or this was something taking place here and now but ill copy what i wrote down the other day.

"something is controlling me. a sort of device that involves sattelite. it scans me and produces uncomfortable "volts" or surges of powerful energy flooding my circuits. very electrical. feels like i am being electrocuted"

For a few months I could not stand to be around anything electrical. They all seemed to physically hurt and irritate me very much. I also got the impression that a lot of people were clueless to the energy manipulation that was taking place. It felt like a battle was taking place. Like the government had these instruments that could directly disrupt a persons energy system. And even direct negative harmful energy to the person. Like an attack. And they were completely unseen.

This was more of the "neg" stuff that I percieved at the time. But like I said there could be a lot of reasons why I saw things in that way... so yeah i guess what im trying to say is although you were just speculating, I think it might be something that could be possible. I remember everywhere I went I had to have some form of protection lol. Like Id arm myself with crystals and stones and maybe like a tarot card that felt right and stick it behind my belt buckle under my shirt. Jesus. Kundalini. *sighs*

Very interesting. I had an experience not too long ago that is very similar to yours. At the time I was under the influence on Salvia, but what happened was very much like you described. Here's a snippet from the journal entry:

sewed up and stitching
"like were being manufactured" alex
"like a sewing maching"


Beings? or individuals, all connected and linked. Infinity. Felt almost like apart of a mailbox, or end of a piece
of furniture or a white couch? Almost seemed pointless. Upsetting cuz our whole life was merely... false almost.
like we were actually asleep. a lot like the matrix, in a sense. like it was my first time (though it was more like my
3rd time experiencing almost the same trip) really waking up/ or remembering that i had been asleep my whole life, or unconscious
in a sense to what was actually going on or happening my entire life. that i was apart of this whole. i was merely a speck
is how "enormous" this infinity of me's went. i got the feeling that, yes they were all me's. and that i wasnt the only one
who was apart of this. i briefly thought of the news, and the newscaster, and how silly their news stories were compared to this.
how they had NO. IDEA. NO CLUE!!! That they were ALL apart of this. THey had completely been wiped clean, memories erased, no
memory of them ever being apart of this one massive unit. I sensed that there were more "units" Alex was apart of it. I felt Like
my life was my personality was just one out of zillions and more.



Anyway. it was very fabric of the universe feeling. Just thought I'd share.

Ive been noticing the same thing for the past ...6 months give or take. Sometimes they start to swirl around, but in the same way that you describe... with the timing and all. Then it starts to gather in a circle and I cant tell if it zooms in or out but then that just repeats over and over. There is definitely a pattern the times that I "look" hard enough, almost a bright blue contrasted with yellow.

I'll let you know what conclusions I draw once I get to that point lol. Still dunno but it is very relaxing to watch.

gonna have to give you a big fat NO on this one. Personal experience tells me this will not hold you back.

Keep your hope.

yes. in fact last month? i saw the eye of horus in a triangle. But basically everytime I close my eyes I have been seeing an eye staring back at me, or lots of eyes/faces. So your not alone on this one. Lets just go along for the ride.

lol, CFTraveler

Same.

Either way, I think it was a memory of something real, something you definitely experienced, whether it be an OBE or lucid dream (i tend to think they are in the same category anyway).

Interesting because last night I threw in the intention of having a conscious "OBE". I ended up having one but I must have forgotten that I asked for help, or didn't think I would get results that fast (even though usually this method of affirmations seems to work very often), so it was a bit startling when there were about 10 entities pulling me out, very business like, insisting that it be done even though initially I was quite startled by their presence.

What was your method to achieve this state?

Congrats to you though, it seems you have some interesting journeys ahead. And by the way, i felt no vibrations whatsoever last night either.

dont be so hard on yourself. your not failing in the least bit.

ive been seeing that as well, things shifting in the void, or movement. just keep on with what your doing and be patient with it. it is a slow start sometimes but the benefits you will reap will be priceless so dont give up even if you think your not getting anywhere.

Ive been wanting to get that book so bad T.L. - the inner paths one. I found it in the bookstore a few months ago and was pleasantly surprised when I realized Rick Strassman had another out that I somehow missed. Is it worth buying? I shouldnt even ask that. I loved his first book.

Anyway keep digging! The checkered pattern thing is interesting - I remember a few times going OB and seeing a checkered pattern, a sort of interdimensional portal it seemed,  where my bed should have been. Cool though that you finally saw yourself, I still havent and ive been popping out, at least consciously for about 4 or 5 years now. I usually just see a cloud where my body should be. Then again half the time I don't bother looking. Makes me think, maybe I would be just as creeped out as you if I were to see myself for what I was. Haha. Maybe I cant handle it on some level yet.

Funny, I have been noticing them too. Mainly upon awakening, neon oranges and blues and greens and reds. They seem very intricate and delicate? they move over my field of vision from left to right and upwards. Interesting!

Take a bath with some sea salt.

Number two: Check out robert bruce's forum: astraldynamics.com

There are a lot of tips on how to protect yourself. He calls them "negs" - and they tend to do just that, attach to you like a parasite and feed on your energy.

Good luck! And do your best not to let fear get the best of you. Hopefully this experience will make you stronger. ( I recently have been encountering such things OB, never have before either so it was very new and creepy to me as well. But I think in the end, it is a sort of test in a sense, from your higher self or whatever you would like to term it, so that you can come out stronger in the end)

Wow very interesting. I am actually in almost the same dilemma. Funny because he looks awfully like the guy I have been seeing lately. He has dark, almost black hair (long it seems but sort of pulled back) with a goatee. I cannot tell if he is "good" or "bad". He seems very joker/trickster like though. Funny that he said JC Penny because I used to work there during holiday season last year. And honestly, it was one of my favorite jobs. So dont be so quick to judge Pennys haha!

But seriously. About a week ago I was taking a  nap when all of a sudden I start seeing faces in the void. (I've been coming across this a lot lately.. lots of faces and peering eyes, anyone else??) I could feel entities around my body, some of them seemed to be massaging my head and forehead in circular patterns (again this is also a new and frequent thing as of late). This would somehow cause my headspace to sort of flap open? I first became aware of an old man, white long hair and beard, in a red cloak. He was teaching or explaining something to someone/me?  who was sitting across from him at a table. Then a jesus-like figure appears with his palms in prayer position at his heart. He opens his palms to me. Then a younger looking jesus rebel? with dark hair and eyes and beard (the one I described in the beginning) He took the center stage it seemed. He looked very serious and intent on watching me and then at times he was playful. Almost seems Middle Eastern or from medieval times. He laughed a lot. I think in part to some of my thoughts... I was so uncertain as to who he was and what his intentions were. For awhile, he seemed to be just enjoying my attention. He was doing backflips and all sorts of random moves. He even had something in his hand that he was spinning around, it looked like a string? with a triangle (portal?) at the end. Being very entertaining but when I mentally asked him who he was, he directed my attention to a mirror. I watched his hand move and point to the mirror and when I gazed into the mirror (note this is all in the void) I saw his reflection staring back at me? So here I got a little confused. Did that mean he was apart of me and I him? Or we are one?

Then it gets a little creepy here. At some point my "headspace" starts to suck up everything in a slow, vaccuum like fashion, and this man's body gets partially sucked into my head, with half of his body it seems, dangling out. IT looked as if he was struggling, or saying "No!!!" as he got pulled back inwards. I dont remember if he got pulled all the way in or what but I basically just sat up and said "WTF".


I was gonna do this in seperate post but ahh, I am in the same predicament. I just can't put my finger on this one. Does anyone have any thoughts?

I second what Greytraveller said but I have noticed a difference in the vibrations, especially in the last couple months. Much more stronger than I have ever experienced them. It seems like the frequency? is at a much faster or higher rate/speed.

Call me a spiritually liberal hippie, but my from my "understanding", youre not supposed to control kundalini. Like good sex, its just something you ride and experience.

:Love Light and Peace:

Corie

lol I completely agree with you. Seems I had to learn the hard way to get that lesson.

"Very rarely Kundalini explodes in  a universe-vanishing BigBang of duality-killing laughter.... "

That is pretty much , well exactly, what went down last summer. At the time I had no idea what the hell was happening. Basically it was just supposed to be a nice trip, as me and few friends were under the effects of what happened to be a fairly strong dose of a certain psychedelic. It was a very confusing time. I ended up in a mental hospital for a good week. They believed I was schizophrenic and accordingly, prescribed me some anti-psychotic medications. I only took these for two weeks. I felt like they were damaging my body so I stopped after the second week. I developed all sorts of strange reactions to the drugs and actually to this day (its almost a year in july since this happened) I still suffer from involuntary movements when I speak. I plan on filing a lawsuit as soon as possible for misdiagnosis and malpractice and personal injury.

Anywho, the experience itself as whole has changed me so deeply. Right before the "spontaneous awakening", well for hours I felt as if I was surrounded by thick slithering snakes. Finally I had had enough and went to a dark empty room. I was at my wits end. I asked the universe or whoever was able to help me, to make it all just stop. (the snakes and the thick negative? energy) I put my hands together and shut my eyes and meditated as I did this. Thats when I became aware of about 10 beings surrounding me, very loving and helping, beings I seemed to have a past or connection with, for when I looked at each one I instantly remembered our history together. They started to sort of whisper and move amongst themselves, it seemed like they were like wind in their movements, now I wonder if they were maybe gathering energy or something but while they were doing this, I had a sense that they were preparing to give me a sort of "key". And while I did not know exactly what repercussions this would have or how it would really effect me, I knew it was something very powerful and that i felt I was not ready. So i did my share of shouting. An absolute "nonononononononono" came out of my chattering mouth. NOT HERE!!!! NOT NOW!!! I was literally pleading with them.

They insisted, communicating to me that it was important and it had to be done NOW that it could not wait any longer. And it seemed they even were apologizing for sort of "leaving me in the dark". And then ZOOM. This feeling powerful still white light was shot through my entire body. At that point I wasnt even in my body anymore but basically jesus christ. A whole array of other things happened which I think I will post eventually either here or on the EIC forum. Its all interesting stuff but its funny because I used to be weary about the kundalini thing. I had heard about it before but never really gave it too much thought. Its funny because I didnt even realize what exactly happened untill about two months later when it dawned on me as I was online. and then i was like "ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh". that would explain. A LOT. lol

youve got to fight it. if not reject at least seize control of the dam thing. if you let things get outta hand things will go badly

I had what some would term a "spontaneous kundalini awakening" this past summer. From my experience, control is really the last thing I was able to maintain. This energy is/can be extremely powerful.   

Here is a link to a news article I happened to come across today about out of body experiences. Apparently, doctors in both the US and UK are going to be studying about 1,500 ("near" death) survivors to test and see whether or not the out of body experience actually exists.

http://www.news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7684684.stm

OBE or Lucid you ask?

I think you already know the answer to that question. And whether or not it was "just" a lucid dream, it really makes no difference.

Congrats!

Walking through long "locked" doors is an amazing feeling!

I think its interesting that you saw your reflection. After 4 years, I still have yet to see what I look like while I'm out and about.

My friend recently gave me the link to it.

Definitely a good site!

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Your parents seem very positive, which makes it easy to believe that they have never had any negative experiences.


I'm not going to lie to you though. I've had some amazing experiences as well extremely frightening experiences. In the end though, you will always have the power to change how things are going for you.


I wish you strength and courage!!! 

I think this experience was definitely "genuine". Though in a sense, I think all of them are...

I recently had a life changing experience which pretty much filled in most of the gaps that have plagued me for so long.

so the past life thing definitely hits home for me...

However, I now get the feeling that we lead multiple lives. Maybe this was just you queing in on an "old" you, positioned somewhere else in space/time.

Or vice versa, for the russian? 

Do your best to ignore it and learn to keep your emotions under control when necessary.

You can start by practicing this during your waking hours. If you can keep your calm during stressful situations throughout your day, it will be much easier to keep your cool in the midst of this chaos you speak of.

Much luck!

**If you're really curious, maybe try asking why they are screaming. If you feel that is not a good idea, then by all means, listen to your intuition.**