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"God" and "humans" are concepts, fabrications in the Mind, noise in the Mind. And "Mind" is also another concept, another noise...

and "noise" is also another concept....etc. Only in silence we could find "truth".  Each time we have a tought, we missunderstand.
Our toughts about God or ourselfs cover the "truth".

Opinion on level 1:

We need a meaning for life because we cant acept truely that we are going to die. We invent all sorts of theories to make feel our egos safe. There is no meaning but the one each construct to give ourselfs direction, order and purpose in an inherently nonsense and accidental universe.

"Heaven is all there is". I think thesse is a similiar way of thinking to "A course in miracle" teachings....¿heard of it?.  

I agree, the only "substancial", real or true plane of existence is Heaven, everything else is fantasy and tought twisted forms.  But heaven is not as Religion images show us, crowded of people enjoying still a body and infinite plasures. There are such places, but they belong still to the illusion of mind activity. Heaven is beyond tought or mind fabrications, thats why we cant really speak of it.  Mind has a big role in the creation of this universe...I guess with the insertation of  the Observer in our scientific formulas as a determinant element we will be getting closer to that aknowledgment: That we live in a mental world.

[The mind is not in the body, the body is in the mind]

The mind is not in the body, the body is in the mind. ¡What a crack in our believe systems if these is find to be truth !

¿Am I dreaming of being in a body sorrounded by other bodys? ¿ Is there a ONE univresal mind, dreaming itself as many and separate individualyts?

                          Ensoñador

For example, yesterday I was atacked by a demon wich wouldnt let me move. I was already out of my body and he tried to posses me. ¿Was these a sleep paralisis experience mixed up with my imagination, or did that atack really happened and that being was not in my mind but in another dimension of the real? I think both hypotesis are right. It was a demon from another realm, but also a part of me. It depends on wich perspective do I want to believe, and I keep both, for I want to see the whole scenario not just part of it.

            Ensoñador

There is always much more in everything around us, but when we find a logical explanation for something, we tend to believe that we  have resolved the mystery. We need quick answers to our questions in order to feel safe, and when something odd happens, we make tremendous efforts to place that event in our believe system and cosmovision by adjusting that phenomena to our old point of view. Sometimes, when we cant manage to place wierd phenomena in our know world perspective, we need to change our perspective from its ruths, and adjust it to that fhenomena.  What I mean to say is that explaining OBE from a brain perspective is in my opinion a limited and parcial view of the whole thing, same with aliens and other religious stuff.  

I can respect others point of view, but that doesnt mean I must ACCEPT them. It is safer or more comfortable to marriage with a point of view,  because many people cant manage to live not knowing anything. They want to accept certain things and deny others. What I suggest is a Yes and No posture for investigation. So, Yes and No, I am being skeptic.
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                                           Ensoñador

I wouldnt qualify all alien abduction experiences as "self created dreams", or as "just in your mind". Yes, it is a good scientific explanation, but its better not to jump into conclusions so fast.

                                          Ensoñador

Then its seems more like a "sleep paralisis", not an OBE. You awaked in your phiscal body insetad of in your astral body, wich was already projected. Did you felt any vibrations? Read in Astral Dynamics the explanation for sleep paralisis. If you experience thesse paralisis again, just let it be, focus on your toe as you did, and when your astral energy comes back and you can move, try to project again your self out with some technick. Repeat the technike until you fall asleep. You may hear also weird sounds, voices, and negative things, dont pay atention to them. Its like when changing from one radio frecuency to another, you can catch other stuff in between.

                            Good luck,  Ensoñador

I forgot to ask, did you saw your own body laying on your bed, or all the experience happened while laying on your bed? You were out of your body right?

                          Ensoñador

It seems like an OBE, but it looks like you missed the exit process. The force wich didnt let you move could be a reflection of sleep paralisis because being near your body. You cant move because your brain motor functions are not active, and you are still trying to move with them. You will have to use your imagintive functions to move, not your motor ones.
In astral plane you are no more a phisical organism, but your mind is still working as if you were in the phisical plane (its an habit). This will cause you too wake up, for you will be estimulating your motor functions. Use your belly botom to move, try to feel movement with it. The secret of OBE navegation is: Dont try to make things happen like in ordinary life, just let them happen. Dont think on moving, just move. Its an intuitive state that you will comprehend once you experienced it.

Try to go away of your body and you will find much easier to move, talk, fly, etc..

Well, I have to say also, that your experience could have been only a dream, a dream in wich you see your own body. The only way to disern this is that when having OBE you are very lucid and conscious about what its happening, and you have a sensation that everything is VERY REAL.

                          Congratulations if it was an OBE, wich I think it was.

                                            Ensoñador

Hello Kevin!

I dont believe reincarnation neither incarnation is real. ¡Whats born into existence is never real!  All things in time sphere never reach the point where we can say they are real. Realness cant be treathened.  Reincarnation happens only in our minds, life and death too. Step aside your own dream,... where you have always really been.  
 
To know your Higher Self you have to do nothing, stop concerning on the meaning of life. Dont search the answers, recieve them with an open heart and a calm mind. Forget all what you have learned, or read, empty yourself so answers may come. You cant reach God, let him reach you. Acceptance will give you understanding.  


Thats what I think and my advise for you, just in case I,m in the position to do so.  

Hello Schizo friends:


We are all crazy because we all percive differences between "me and you" or "this and that".   Any perception is an hallucination.  In order to percive there most be a perceptor, in order to be a perceptor there most be something to be percieved. But nor the subjet or the objet are real. It´s all "The Mind" playing with itself, and only realizing who the player Is, we can recover our sanity.

Schizo means divided, not integrated with the Big Whole, experiencing the lack of love or union. Gods creation is like a Big Bang, a big psicotic breakdown, a huge well planed and virtual fragmentation of the Whole. Reintegration is the process of recovering the ground of reallity, were we already are happy beings. (Evolution)

The world of a schizofrenic is a constant battle between life and death, to be be not to be, and ilussion of lack of plentyness, sustained in the mind.
See, the most frecuent topics of their hallucinations are: being so great to be chassed, or being so evil to be punished.  Both show a lot of self importance,...these guys take themselfs very seriously. They dont know their inner greatness, so they have to construct a world where they are important enough.  The world they know is one of emptyness, one of phisical and psychologycal abuse. Their egos where not enough reinforced to have at least, a good dream, just as we schizofrenics of normal day life do.

There is only suffer where there is an "I" who suffers. I think thats our original sin, to believe in ourselfs as separated entitys. Sin is the well planed error in our consciousness, the big time or oportunity to be an actor and not who we really are. We became so enajenated, so in "love" with our role, and we forgot we were acting. Since then, the universal forces are helping us to cure our cosmic amnesia and psichosis.

The magic is the ability to play consciusly with our own mind and in deep levels, thus afecting the virtual world around us. Magicians know how to alter perception, but they recognize all the time "That" wich can not be altered. Wisdom is the ability to descriminate the real from the unreal.

Schizofrenics are more conscious about death than we are. Their intuition tells them that they are not real or alive at all , and they run away from that feeling and try hardously to be real. They have unpurposely discovered the iulsion of individuality.  The magician discovers not only is own unrealness, but his inner realness or true being, and thats waht saves him from crazyness.

When we all ordinary peaple die, we become psichotic, for we will have to make front to our own extintion as separated individuals, and our happy crossover will depend in our capacity of letting go; not only our familiy and things, but our own ego. If we fear we will suffer terrible hallucinations, if we feel guilty we will create a scenario of punishment until we let go or forgive ourselfs, if we have desires to conserve a body and see our ancestors we will. That could happen until we realize and acept we were death from the beginning and become absorved into vacuity (buddist vacuity). Earth, Hell and Heaven, their are both insane, cause even in the high planes where ther are still distinctions, or mental creations, we havent yet returned to what we really are.  In order to be born in the world, God had to become a man, in order for a man to become one with God, he has to "regret" being just man. Its like waking up from a dream. Death is like stoping dreaming. All characters (egos) vanish, so we stop being the dream and awake being the dreamer.

                             
Freedom is when we are already awake but we can still dream what we want consciously. We would never again forget who we are, unlees God  or we want to play it all over again, and again, and again.


Good bye, dear loony house partners

Hello:

Last weekend I went to a Transperosnal center (Manantial) here in Mexico City in order to heal some wounds. I took a two day course called "inner liberation". There I worked with holotropic breathwork or "pranayama" breathing.  Well, I expereinced a lot of fear while doing it, but at the end It was perty good, and did expressed a lot of repressed feelings.

Two days passed and I had this astral experience I would like to share:

I went in a dream to the center, walk in to the experiementation room, and there I used a spiritual sword to make a light explotion. Then I start spinning the sword on the air and made a red-orange spiral. I went inside the spiral and start moving around. While spinning I heard a lot of people crying, others vomited, screaming and laughing like a loony house, or like Dantes hell.  Terrible voices and spirits started to aproach me, spinning around me, saying "your going crazy" "your are going to broke your self in peaces". I knew I had to go all staright up through the spiral in order to be in the Great Light, but I doubted and felt a lot of fear. I felt I was going to explode but I woke up. When I did I phoned my father to tell him this horrible nightmare, but he wouldnt listen to me, he just interrupted every time I want to tell him something. I cried a lot, feeling alone and with no comprenhension from others. Then I woke up again, I had just one of those false awakings.  

When I truly woke up I could still feel the pressence of thesse negative entities, (I ddint want this sipirts to be visible, thta could make me insane) So I went to the Kitchen for a Glass of water to purify the ambient, and then I could sleep again. But I was still very ansius so I masturbated to calm and relax.  In the morning when I woke up I was really really tired, almost with no energy. I cant remember being that tired before. I was really depressed in the moring, sadnesss, ansiety, panic atacks, all toghether. I went to work like that, and saw in the children hospital a little girl with Aids in a terminal phase. I started to beliefe life is horrible and got angry with God.  ¿Was all this a visible and invisible Test? Yes, I believe my faith is being tested. I guess I,m fighting my own demonds, but ¿how can I know for sure if these were my own fears or really ghostly spirits? It looked like they didnt wanted me to climb up to the Great light, ¿why?

I would like to hear if someone in here has these kind of atacks, and how do you handle it.

                                                        Thank you very much

Hello:

Last OBE attempt was like this: I relaxed, then vibrations started, then I tried to santd up in my energy body, but I was too heavy and couldnt do it. I made and extra effort but start feeling pain. Iv´e achieved it other times, but latly I cant get away from my phisical body. ¿Is it because not good relaxing? or because Did too much effort made it more difficult?  I remember of being awake and tiered but not being able to seelp, then when I finally could sleep for a while this happened. other thing, I find in real time zone harder to move than in Lucid dreaming, also flying. WHy?  Well, I,ll just wait next a little bit more after vibrations occur, maybe I,m not letting al energy to shift to the astral body?  By the way, while this was happening I was afraid of being trying to proyect eteral body, cause this could make me ill or death. I mean, I wasnt shure If I was pulling out my astral or my etherical force. Thats wahy I quited.

            ENsoñador

Hello:

Last night I woke up in the middle of the night with a "bad Flue" (dont know how to say it in English). I started to pray for a while and did some energy work with my neck. When I selpt again, I was dreaming of going to see a doctor. When I got to the place, I start to feel weaker and weaker, suddenly I felt on the ground and couldnt move at all. Then I heard a really scary laughing. I fought to move and started to tell this entity "Light be with you". I tought I was being kidnapedd or something. I couldnt see a thing, my eyes were closed and could not open them. I was anymore at the doctor, I was at my bed parallised. I knew I was in a dream and wanted to wake up,then I tried to OBE and leave the place. Then I start yelling for someone who was sleeping at the other room. When I finally could move I was lying in the kitchen like a small kid in a corner, scared to death. Then I became angry and jumped into the kithen table, and I saw my opressor behind in the shadows. I yelled and jumped to atack it thinking I had a sword at my right hand. Then I was again at my bed trying to move. When I did, I notice all was a dream, a real time zone dream maybe or low astral neg atack.  I was not breathing well, cause I had to much clothes on me.   This feeling of being anesthesiatet "with out moving", is horrible.  I, ve had many of this neg experiences, especialy this last two years of OBE exploration.  I dont know why they atack me, they dont dialogue when they wnat to do so. Many would say is my own negativity, thats a posible answer, but as how I see it "the more I walk a spiritual positive path, the more you atractive becmoe to this beings"  Other answer to this is the Flue I have, illness make you more vulnerable, it makes one realize how fragile we are. Maybe this fragility causes fear, and that bring this negs to me. Most of my experiences arent shinny and great in the astral. A healer told me I should forget the astral dimension and go further... When they atack is like being possesd by them, is like something stronger than my self captures. MMm, probably it was just sleep paralysys or mixture of neg and sleep paralisis.

Dark angels, humanfrogs, inmense mosquitos, shadows, mongs with red eyes, dragons, crazy lunatics, and all NEGS ¡I wont quit my Yoga! More praying and more meditation, more love, more change in my mind,...they wont stop me.

If someone can tell me whats wrong (is it wrong?), why is it that when I intensify my will to practice the spiritual path, this things come. Its probably same thing when meditating, mind rebels against silence, and our debilitys shine more intensly wnen we are trying to conquer them.

Negs attack not only negative people, but also peaple trying to change.

                             Ensoñador

                              Ensoñador

Hello:
Sometimes, when I,m just partially relaxed, I satrt feeling vibrations at some part of my body, (hand) but its like a horrible burning sensation. ¿Does it really has to do with relaxation, or what is the problem? I ve achieved other times AP with no pain,... I guess it has to with atention, cause I was more aware of my hand than the rest of my body.  What do you think?
                                              Ensoñador

Hello, I need your help.

I have a friend, she is 22 years old. I ve been helping her with astral projection. She expereince somnambulism instead of Astral projection. ¿How is this fenomena related to spirit, is it really a sleep disorder? She has a small brian lessure, she has strong deja vus, and feel when somebody is next to die.

I guess her phiscal body is following her astral body, coping its movements, ¿But why? Are somnabulistic people more capable of medium experience? ¿Or posesion by spirits?  Her body is not resting quite well... I told her to stop her night experiences and try to have a deep sleep. ¿What is somnabulism in a spiritual sense?

                                Ensoñador

Hello:

I´v been experiencing lucid dreams 3 days a week, but only for fife seconds ,or so, being really conscious. It is more easy to me to OBE than to LD.  I can only make OBE in real time zone though....

I have two questions: How can I have a high level projection? I always find myselef out of my body but some friend told me I shoould not try to be in the real time zone for its a low level plane. I ve stoped my practises since then, cause Im trapped in that dimension and cant go any further.  My other question is about lucid dreaming....When I,m already conscious, how can I stay for long time like that? Its like I say to my self, "oh Imn dreaming!", but then as if never great happened keep doing my dream, following the same old unconscious patterns. Last week for example, I had this dream where I was running away from zombies in a Ferrari, then I realized I was dreaming, but then after a few seconds while I repeated to my self "Im dreaming, Im dreamin", I felt scared again about zombies and started again to run away from them. When I woke up I think: " How stupid, I knew I was dreaming, but still was afraid of this things"

                                 Thank you

Hello:

Is masturbation a bad inversion of energy?

Some friends and I have been dreaming about a plague of black insects coming from outerspcace or from the center of the earth. This insects eat matter, cars, and some people too. I wouldnt think about this dreams literaly as going to happen, but in a metaphorical way could mean that earth or humanity is on a purification process from its materialism and lack of spirituality.  What do you think, has someone dreamead about these or hear about thesse?

My dream was this: I was by a beautifull river, and strangely a human leg was levitating on the river. It was being eated by this black insects that had or made like an energetic field around the leg.  When I woke up I thought I was going crazy, I tought this was a good dream to be painted by Dali. Then I went to see my friends and he reminded me about the plague they dreamd 6 months ago.

                    Ensoñador

Hello:

I ve having some problems inducing WILDS. I relaxed my body and watch internal images, but when I start dreaming or get sucked in by the dream, I loose lucidity. The images I see arent clear and change too fast to know exactly what the are, and sometimes after watching them, I forget what I watched. Is an AP concious exit a kinf of WILD dream?
                      Thanks for your help!!

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Here is an article I found in www.lucidity.com, I hope the atach thing worked.

Has someone ever proofed that OBE is not a dream? Do we really are traveling in the phiscal real-time world when AP, or is it just a copy of our memorys. I think a good way to proof this would be to ask one of our family members to put an unknown objet for us in a room of our house and then check it out during OBe to compare the information we got next morning with the "real" object. If you have ever done this succesfully, I would be pleased to read your experience.  I,m running an invetsigation on the objetivity of real-time projections, so, ¡please help me with my homework!

I,ve expeerienced some times OBE but I havent ever made this experiement.
                           Ensoñador

                       

                                             

I would like to share an article I found on OBE and LD related to brain activity and REM states.(1999) How do I put it on the forumsn so everyone can read it?. Is there an e-mail adress or something so I can send it like an atachment?

                                   Ensoñador

Hello:

I had a strange dream, and just wondering what could it mean. I went to a house, get inside and I saw 10 copies of my grandfather. They were all different but the same person. Then I asked who was the real one and my grandmother told me: "Obviously the blondy one". Can you explain why so many, interpretation?=