Hi Qbeac,
I have now read through the full details of your agnostic method.
To be honest I am very impressed, the entire project seems incredibly well thought out and not just from a scientific point of view but also from a projectors point of view, your expectations are modest and agree with what a projector would see as possible.
The largest problem you will encounter as indeed you have already detailed at length is issues with the projector creating and dreaming the validation target. Validation of a specific target is extremely hard, as the projector knows exactly what they are looking for.
This is not impossible however, and as you state it only requires that a few correct hits are scored for the evidence to be acceptable.
Now depending on how well your projectors are doing a couple of alterations could be made. For example a protocol could be put in place to prevent the projector from knowing in advance what the target should be.
This would require either additional help by a controller as in your level 2 validation, or the use of some computer software. The later would be the most practical as it would still enable projectors to practice alone.
The reason to remove as much knowledge of the target as possible until the point of validation is it makes the target must less tangible to the projector before hand. Instead of knowing that they must see a selection of words, cards or numbers, they know simply that something is going to be in the room which they must validate.
This way the scope for self creation of the target is much reduced.
You raised an excellent idea with the reality check of reading a piece of text clearly before proceeding. This is an excellent guide to focus, even if self created it still implies the idea of focusing to the projector. This could even be extended to include a poster on the wall at the exit location.
Personally once hypnogogic I do not leave my body until I have gained focus and verified the objectivity of the exit location. By placing a poster on the wall in this location that states simply. "Take you time, Focus, Now validate your target" we have an excellent reminder to the projector of what the purpose was and until that poster can be observed an exit should not even be attempted.
It is easier to clean up confusion before an exit is made then handle it once OBE.
You mention meeting people and exchanging information whilst OBE. This is likely to be easier than the other validation method, so long as the people meeting have some kind of connection.
It is a very regular occurrence to gain some information from someone whilst OBE, but often the person who provided the information has no recollection of the meeting. I think this makes it hard to prove the OBE aspect, in that it could be seen as a stronger indication of psychic connection.
It may be possible to describe the location of a person, I have had some experiences where I have been able to very accurately describe the contents, and look of someone else's location whilst they were sleeping. This would no doubt become much harder when used as a specific validation target though.
This is all a very fantastic experiment and I would encourage as many projectors as possible to be willing to take part and help out.
As for my own participation I am happy to help and even to participate in the experiments, I am however pretty much unavailable until the 18th of January due to work commitment. After that point I will happily take part in the experiment.
Also earlier I spoke of software that could be used to randomize the validation target. A piece of software or a web application could be used that would display at random one of the target medium to the variance required mathematically. It could incorporate a delay so that the projector would not have to see even a hint of the target in advance. Words, images or text could be displayed, even audio or video could be played for later validation possibilities. Further to this logging of results could be entered directly into this application or web application so that statistics could be automatically registered as projectors completed the experiments.
Personally I believe it makes most sense to use a web application, as then all results can be compiled onto a central database so you can get a better view of what is happening in real time.
Just so happens that I am a software engineer, and at my point of being available which would be 18th January onwards I would be happy to program the suggested application and website, for free obviously, to the specification of the experiment.
We can talk on this more later and in detail if you would like to proceed as it could be tailored exactly to your needs.
Kind Regards
Gav
I have now read through the full details of your agnostic method.
To be honest I am very impressed, the entire project seems incredibly well thought out and not just from a scientific point of view but also from a projectors point of view, your expectations are modest and agree with what a projector would see as possible.
The largest problem you will encounter as indeed you have already detailed at length is issues with the projector creating and dreaming the validation target. Validation of a specific target is extremely hard, as the projector knows exactly what they are looking for.
This is not impossible however, and as you state it only requires that a few correct hits are scored for the evidence to be acceptable.
Now depending on how well your projectors are doing a couple of alterations could be made. For example a protocol could be put in place to prevent the projector from knowing in advance what the target should be.
This would require either additional help by a controller as in your level 2 validation, or the use of some computer software. The later would be the most practical as it would still enable projectors to practice alone.
The reason to remove as much knowledge of the target as possible until the point of validation is it makes the target must less tangible to the projector before hand. Instead of knowing that they must see a selection of words, cards or numbers, they know simply that something is going to be in the room which they must validate.
This way the scope for self creation of the target is much reduced.
You raised an excellent idea with the reality check of reading a piece of text clearly before proceeding. This is an excellent guide to focus, even if self created it still implies the idea of focusing to the projector. This could even be extended to include a poster on the wall at the exit location.
Personally once hypnogogic I do not leave my body until I have gained focus and verified the objectivity of the exit location. By placing a poster on the wall in this location that states simply. "Take you time, Focus, Now validate your target" we have an excellent reminder to the projector of what the purpose was and until that poster can be observed an exit should not even be attempted.
It is easier to clean up confusion before an exit is made then handle it once OBE.
You mention meeting people and exchanging information whilst OBE. This is likely to be easier than the other validation method, so long as the people meeting have some kind of connection.
It is a very regular occurrence to gain some information from someone whilst OBE, but often the person who provided the information has no recollection of the meeting. I think this makes it hard to prove the OBE aspect, in that it could be seen as a stronger indication of psychic connection.
It may be possible to describe the location of a person, I have had some experiences where I have been able to very accurately describe the contents, and look of someone else's location whilst they were sleeping. This would no doubt become much harder when used as a specific validation target though.
This is all a very fantastic experiment and I would encourage as many projectors as possible to be willing to take part and help out.
As for my own participation I am happy to help and even to participate in the experiments, I am however pretty much unavailable until the 18th of January due to work commitment. After that point I will happily take part in the experiment.
Also earlier I spoke of software that could be used to randomize the validation target. A piece of software or a web application could be used that would display at random one of the target medium to the variance required mathematically. It could incorporate a delay so that the projector would not have to see even a hint of the target in advance. Words, images or text could be displayed, even audio or video could be played for later validation possibilities. Further to this logging of results could be entered directly into this application or web application so that statistics could be automatically registered as projectors completed the experiments.
Personally I believe it makes most sense to use a web application, as then all results can be compiled onto a central database so you can get a better view of what is happening in real time.
Just so happens that I am a software engineer, and at my point of being available which would be 18th January onwards I would be happy to program the suggested application and website, for free obviously, to the specification of the experiment.
We can talk on this more later and in detail if you would like to proceed as it could be tailored exactly to your needs.
Kind Regards
Gav