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Gawd, Ganamoha, don't encourage her!!!      Besides, I was pretty funny, too.   

we don't allow that kind of talk

So, ban me!     Then we can go back to just talking in pm's, and spare these poor people the witty banter.  This is almost scandalous!!!  Two women from different camps secretly friends??  Well, hush my mouth!  *southern women talk*  And, lest you forget, I was crowned Queen of the Fluffy Bunnies after you left.  I stole your title!      So, let us agree to disagree about Robert.  I'm tired of arguing anyway.  *goes away to polish up bunny crown*

Jeez, Nay, where do I start?  First off, I just hosted a workshop for Robert and the cost per person is $200.  I don't know where you got the idea that he charges so much.  He even allows the person hosting the workshop to set the price, and is insistent that people with money problems receive a "scholarship" to attend...either at a discounted rate or free.   One thing I can say for sure, Robert is not in it for the money. 

Secondly, my post wasn't directed at you.  It was a general post trying to create a little understanding.  I'm really sorry if it came off that it was directed at you.  That wasn't my intention.  Even with our disagreements, I love you to death.  I didn't ban you, and fought hard for you.  And, you know you weren't banned for your beliefs.  The reason I posted was because Ewok contacted me with a link here.  After reading the entire thread, I thought it was a little unfair to Robert and to Ewok. 

Ok, about my "stars".  I don't feel superior to anyone.  On the contrary, I feel humbled that I've hurt people in the past because of my beliefs and the way I expressed it.  Robert has not pumped any sunshine up my arse, and I've personally never met a spiritual teacher more kind, caring, sincere, and dedicated to helping people.   He actually has and does tell people that they can create their own demons through fear and thought forms.  Because he also believes there are negative entities hardly makes him a bad person.  His healings are free.  That should speak for itself.    He's a lot more reasonable person than you're giving him credit for.  I've seen him several times tell someone who was convinced they had a neg that that wasn't what was going on.  He teaches people to clean up their life, and is a big proponent of the law of attraction.  But, he also believes there are forces that can affect people negatively that they may not have attracted into their life.  Nay, it's a belief, not a reason to become greedy.  He insists that people who host a workshop take a percentage for their trouble and work.  I didn't want to, and practically had to shove the money in his pocket.  I think you've built an image of Robert in your head that doesn't resemble the real man.

Ok, enough about Robert.  He always tells me not to defend him, that he can take care of himself.  But, since I know him and how he operates, I wanted to set the record straight.

I still can't understand why said possessed and neg attack victims continue to get angry when someone believes different than them.  Why the hostility?  Please don't tell me a neg is using me.

You know me pretty well to know that I would not say a neg is using you.  I think it's offensive when people say that to someone.  I don't pretend to know what motivates someone else.  I can barely keep up with myself.      About the hostility...we all get upset and defensive when we interpret something someone says as a personal attack.  Can't say what anyone else's motivation is, but I'm still working on fixing that in myself...and usually failing miserably.  And, I don't take your post as an attack on me, 'cause I know how much you love me, you little sh.t.   

Hey, I didn't know you'd gone back to moderating!  And, I see you are still speaking your mind.       I miss you terribly, and still think you're one of the funniest people I've ever known, you dumb f..k.   

Just in case anyone is interested, Robert Bruce does not take money for healings or depossession.  While there are many who don't believe in negative entities, which I can understand, we all have our own little demons we are fighting with.  (i.e. - anger, lying, drinking, and sometimes the hardest one of all to conquer - rudeness).  So, even if you (that being the universal "you", not aimed at anyone in particular) don't believe in negs, at least try to recognize when someone is in pain.  The pain shows up in many ways, and may not fall in line with your particular beliefs.  A plea for help is a plea for help, whether "you" give credence to it or not.  And, try to understand just how little making fun of them is helping.  If you were in pain, would you appreciate that kind of response? 

The high moral tone of telling them what to do and what's really wrong with them doesn't quite do the trick.  I should know, I've tried it myself.  All it does is heap more hurt on them, isolates them, and makes them feel even worse.  Is this how Oneness reacts to someone else in pain?   Is this how "you" want people to react when you're in pain?  I don't think any of us really wants that. 

If Robert has taught me anything, it's that loving those we don't completely agree with is the highest calling we can attain.  You may not agree with Robert or Ewok's beliefs, but the least you can do is afford them the respect that you would ask for yourself.  Robert is a healer, that's what he does.  He changes people's lives for the better.  And, no, I haven't drunk the Koolaid.  I've just witnessed in person what a loving, generous, and kind man he is. 

Now, back to your regularly programmed station....

Hi Nay!  *waves*  Loves ya!

I have the same belief system as Stookie, regarding this subject.  So, since everything is all just One consciousness, then no illusory individual consciousness can be destroyed.

[CF said:]

CF said:

How about 'mastery of your own domain?'

Seinfeld!!  Good God!  Is there anything we don't have in common?

I think enlightenment is very simple.  Turning a light on.  It's just remembering that we are God...that everything is God.  There is no separation.  One continuous energy that is divided only by illusion.  

Evolvement...now that's a different story.  Evolvement is the practice of putting your money where your mouth is.  Or, more simply, putting into practice the realization that we are not separate.  This involves learning, loving, forgiving, experiencing, and acting like we are One.  Much more difficult than enlightenment.

The Machiavelli personality test has a range of 0-100
Your Machiavelli score is: 55
You are a low Mach, you reject Machiavelli's opinions.
Most people fall somewhere in the middle, but there's a significant minority at either extreme.

I'd rate the bulls...  factor of this test at a very high degree.     There's too many factors and "you'd have had to been there" things that are not taken into account.  A bit simplistic.  Fun to take, anyway.  

Thanks, Marcus!  Hi Fliesatnite!  Good points.  I agree, and I love the quote by Peter Close.  One problem I've encountered though, when you are surrounded by negative people and are an empath, it pays to protect yourself.  If I didn't, with the kind of clients that I usually work with, I'd be an anxious wreck.  I work with a lot of people who have high anxiety levels.  When I first started, I couldn't figure out why my heart would be racing and I'd be getting all jittery.  When I figured out I was empathically feeling their energy, I learned to put up "imaginary" walls of steel between us.  It works for me.  Probably because I'm one of those people who believe we create our own experiences.  I created protection for myself so I can continue to help with just my own energy.  LOL!

Yes, I've read all of Michael Newton's books.  I specialize in regressions.  I hope to study with him someday.  I was once regressed by a man who learned from him.  I studied last summer with Dr. Brian Weiss, author of "Many Lives, Many Masters".  It was great!  You can click on my www. below if you want to check out my website.

Hi again, Marcus  
Yes, I do paint.  And, I'm a hypnotherapist.  And, female.  Hence, the nic!  Actually, I agree with everything you said.  Obviously, in mediumship, you have to talk with those who have crossed over from whatever plane they are residing in.  I made a generalization, that on face value, was too general.  

Good post, greatoutdoors.  I forgot about the red/green thing.  I'm a bit confused.  You believe in auras and energy, but don't believe in psychokinises?

Let's see...hmmmm.  I can't speak for anyone else, but here are a few of the reasons why I don't make a video:
- I can never find the video camera in my husband's office, under all his gizmos and paperwork in his bookshelves.
- I'm very computer challenged, so even if I did make a video, I'd never figure out how to upload it.
- If I did make a video and asked my husband to help me upload it, he would say he's busy and has better things to do.  And, then, he'd want an explanation of why I want to upload it.  Then, he'd ask me why I waste my time on these forums.  Don't want to have that conversation again.
- I'm too lazy to take the time, even if I knew how.
- I'm not here to try to prove anything.  I'm here to share ideas and helpful hints to those who are interested.
- Besides, if I went to all the trouble, I'm sure it would be picked apart and told a hundred ways it was faked.  So, in the end, it would be a waste of time anyway.
- But, if anyone is around northern California and wants to see it done in person, send me a pm.

Relaxation is key.  Try resting your elbows and arms on the table to help you keep from getting tense.  Loosely hold your hands.  Relax your entire body.  If you're stiffening up, shake out your hands, relax and start over.  

I don't meditate.  I just think "turn".  You can imagine it turning, or you can imagine a hand coming our of your forehead or third eye pushing it.  You might even blow on it gently to get it started to help boost your imagination.  This way, you'll see what it looks like when it's turning, making it easier to visualize.  

Don't get excited.  If it twitches, you've begun.  But, if you find your heart racing, it's probably not going to turn.  You have to be very matter of fact about it.  It's like any psychic ability...it works best when you are calm.

Hi majour ka,
It's quite important to know exactly who you are talking to when communicating with non-physical entities.  Just like people on the physical plane, there are spirits in the astral who enjoy pretending they are something they aren't.  When asking for a guide's help or advice, it's prudent to ask that only your highest spiritual guides with your highest purpose in mind communicate with you.  The highest guides are obviously going to reside in the highest planes.  They lower their vibration to be able to communicate with us, but this does not mean they are an entity of lower vibration.  A strong command that only the highest guides communicate with you usually does the trick.

Hi Silent Shadow,
I'm one of those who has had discussions with Mister Jingo concerning auras.  I think we agree to disagree?!  Hi Jingo!   I would say to trust your instincts.  You can read a hundred different books on auras and each one differs from slightly to greatly on the interpretations of colors.  When I first started seeing auras, I was confused, too.  Then some wise person told me the colors mean whatever they mean to me.  So, by practicing and observing people's moods and behavior, you will eventually come up with a knowledge that will be all your own.

To practice seeing auras with open, physical eyes, it helps to use a white background.  Don't look directly at the person or object.  BTW, everything does have an aura, because everything is made up of energy.  Use what is sometimes called "soft eyes" or unfocus your eyes.  Look anywhere from an inch to a foot outside of the person.  Don't blink for as long as you can.  If you blink, it will go away, but will come back if you unfocus your eyes.  

I find that it is easier to see an aura around an emotional person or a speaker.  This is because their energy is "pumped up".  After practicing and getting good at it, you will find that auras will appear when you aren't even thinking about it.  It's just like a sport, the more you practice, the better you get at it.

Never mind, the links on page 1 of this thread work.  Thanks!

Hi Covelo,
The links don't work for me, either.

Actually, Runlola, I'm a member here, also, so I think I'll stay.

greatoutdoors, there is a very interesting healing technique called "Quantum Touch" where you can see and feel bones actually move, among other types of healings.  They have a website, if you would like to google it.  I realize they are making claims that you yourself can't see, but I've seen it myself.  There's a funny story about Richard Gordon, the person who started the technique.  He was demonstrating in a chiropractic college, and when the administrators saw what he was doing, i.e.- moving bones with a gentle touch, they threw him out and disallowed any more outside demonstrations.  LOL!  Kind of changed the whole twist and snap into something very gentle.  It would hit their pocketbook, so they weren't fond of the idea.  Anyway, I just thought you might find it interesting, as you brought up more difficult types of healings.

My belief is that all healing is "self-healing" and that all anyone can do is help facilitate healings.  If someone isn't ready to be healed, for whatever reason, they won't be healed, whether it's a medical doctor or a psychic healer.  That accounts for why some people are healed and some are not.

I apologize for getting a bit out of hand.  In my first post, I was sharing information that I had first hand, and it seemed the majority of the responders to this entire thread were not only disbelievers, but were enjoying making fun of dirty blondes original post.  I don't know why he doesn't respond.  Maybe he just wanted to put the info out there and let other people decide for themselves.  I, myself, am a skeptic, but I've had too many times where I've had things happen to me that proved my skepticism unfounded.  So, I guess you could call me an open minded skeptic.  I didn't tell you to leave.  I am just always surprised when people who are very skeptical of paranormal things spend a lot of time on paranormal websites.  I would have a hard time on a skeptic website, so, I just don't get it...that's all.  I will try to be less defensive in future posts.

greatoutdoors,
I think that's pretty rude of you to call me a "sucker".  It always amazes me how "expert" some people think they are when they don't even bother to try something themselves, or have never even seen something done.  Armchair experts.  Why don't you try to find someone locally in your area who claims they can do this, and then sit in front of them, watch them do it, and then try it yourself, assembling everything yourself so you know it's not faked.  THEN, we'll talk.  

Like I said, and I think it bears repeating....my EXTREMELY ACUTE health conditions were vastly improved over a very short amount of time.  My SPECIALIST medical doctors were amazed.  THey BOTH told me they had never had a patient go from being as sick as I was (my Pulmonologist told me I was the sickest patient she had ever had) to as healthy as I was in such a short amount of time.  At one point, I was hospitalized for a week, and they weren't even sure I would make it). Later, after doing spiritual work, hypnotherapy and healings on myself, I started dropping 8 different medications one by one over about a month.  They were FREAKING and furious with me, because they KNEW I would end up in the Emergency Room.  I haven't been sick since.  And, the amount of medication I'm on now, my doctor told me last week, wasn't even a theraputic dose.  By the way, I am a Registered Nurse, so I wouldn't recommend this to anyone else, without a doctor's approval and overseeing.

Why in the world are you even on a website such as this, if you are so skeptical about everything?  They have website's for disbelievers.  Wouldn't you be more comfortable among your own kind?  Or, do you just enjoy making fun of people you don't know?  It's so easy when you don't have to look them in the face, isn't it?

I got a quick answer back.  So, here's what Loyd Auerbach has to say regarding magician tricks vs. PK:

"Hi Patty,

Well, you might tell them that magicians -- and special
effects artists -- routinely simulate real phenomena and
real things.  That does not invalidate the actual thing.  

Hey, I've been through an earthquake twice at Universal
Studios Florida.  Guess that means that all earthquakes are
simulated?

So, naturally everything can be faked.  The key in psychic
research is to control for that.  And are these people
suggesting that you are faking things?  They don't know you
very well.

I know exactly how Ted Lesley's version of the effect
works.  It can be easily controlled for or detected.
That's the key.

Loyd"

So, if you would like to argue with the leading Parapsychologist, I suggest you e-mail him from his website.  Hope this helps!

Regarding the magic trick that imitates PK with a target, I've contacted Loyd and asked him about it.  He's a mentalist and magician because he needed to be able to understand and recognize when something he encounters is fake or not.  Will post when I hear back from him.

[greatoutdoors said:]

greatoutdoors said:

in cases of genuine physical problems, it does not work.

(Regarding healings).

Obviously, you haven't talked to the hundreds of thousands of people around the world who have been healed from acute and chronic diseases and conditions.  I have 2 doctors who are specialists and are both in awe that I was able to cure myself by about 80% of extremely severe asthma.  This was after 8 years of hospitalizations, ER visits, and extreme amounts of medications that even the insurance company didn't want to pay for because it was 4 times the typical dose.  I haven't been sick or in the ER for almost 2 years now.  

Most people who refuse to believe are NEVER going to experience.  I'm sad for you.

Some of you from Astral Dynamics know me.  So, ignore this as I've already posted at AD.  I studied for about a year with the leading Parapsychologist in the U.S., possibly the world, Loyd Auerbach.  www.mindreader.com
He was very good friends with a man who was contacted by the U.S. government to try to do PK (psychokinesis). His name was Martin Cadin and wrote the book "Cyborg" which was used to develop the TV show "The Six Million Dollar Man".

The government came up with the prototype of a spinning four sided paper "target" on a needle for practice. None of the people who were governmental employees were able to make it spin.  This was during the era of the U.S. and Russia's Cold War.  Both were also working on Remote Viewing to spy on each other.  They contacted Cadin because he was the "go to" guy for anything that no one else could do.  He taught himself to fly and held the world record for the number of people (I think this was it) wingwalking.  The man was a self-taught genius in many scientific areas.

I have video of Cadin spinning 21 of these targets of all different shapes and sizes at once. His largest was around 3 ft. long. A show about him was on "Haunted America". You might be able to Goggle it and go to archived shows...Haunted America, Martin Cadin, PK. I haven't tried since I have several CD Roms from class. My teacher, Loyd Auerbach hosted the show.  Cadin isn't alive anymore.  Google Loyd Auerbach and Martin Cadin...you're in for a big surprise.

We learned PK with a target in Parapsychology class.  EVERYONE was able to make it at least turn within 10 minutes and most were able to keep it going for 30 minutes.  Mind you, most of these people were fairly psychic.  Loyd had a large bell jar, and just about everybody but me got it to spin inside the jar.  

I threw a PK party about a year ago.  Loyd entertained with his mental mind tricks and we taught over 60 people to turn the target.  (I bought lots and lots of clay and needles!).     Almost all of them were able to get it to twitch, and over half were able to get it spinning.  Being in a room where other people are doing it makes it easier to do.  Once you see someone else spinning the target, your belief factor goes WAY up.  

I can get 5 targets spinning from across the room just by looking at them and concentrating.  Lots of practice!  But, I have my own bell jar and can only get a twitch.  The only thing I can figure out is that I'm an empath and I have to put up imaginary metal walls between myself and others when they are agitated or upset to keep from feeling their feelings.  I think I equate on a subconscious level that stupid jar with my walls.  So, I gave up and only try it now and then.

Oh, and my best friend and her 2 kids were able to get theirs spinning like a top within 2 minutes of me showing them how.  And, they don't believe in ANYTHING paranormal.

Regarding Randi...you've gotta be kidding!!!!!!!!!!!!!  That guy will NEVER give out the million dollars.  No matter how much proof he's given, he always comes up with some insignificant reason why it can't be true.  If he was to accept the fact of anything paranormal, his career would be over.  He's built a career on disbelief and would have to start over if he actually admitted anything was real.  Money is a very big motivator for him.  

I believe Dirty Blonde's video, because of my own experiences.  Believe me, it's easier to spin a target than it is to make a fake film!  I wouldn't want my face on the video either, for privacy reasons.  Sheesh!!

Also,
If the Eloheim created this "Free Will Zone", are they still in the process of creating it, or have they reached a "hands off" period where we (the physical entities) are now doing all of the creating?  I recognize that on some level we are all co-creating, that time is not linear, etc.