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#1
I'd never use the ping pong balls for projection. For starters i've only projected twice, and those have been very brief without me even getting out of my room. So i don't have enough success to consider such a thing possible.

But mostly i don't want to fall asleep wearing them. Nor would i want to fall asleep wearing goggles. A facemask would be nice, but i don't have one. Having my room pitch black seems to work fine. But that's another topic. This one is about the ganzfeld effect, which i'm currently finding very useful for normal meditation.
#2
Quote from: kiwibongaSo is the inside of the balls truly white? When I do it with less intense light, it's all beige :o

EDIT: Something that preoccupies me is that I can't seem to stay concentrated. The cause is simple: keeping your eyes open too long hurts. I feel something coming (like the beginning of hypnogogic images), but as soon as I blink, it just goes away...

Another thing that's a potential concern is... Will my eyes close on their own after a while, or will I wake up the next day with dual pink eye?

beige would be a sufficient description i guess.

Are your eyepieces air tight? Mine are, and, while my eyes hurt after a long while, i can still keep them open for 20 minutes or so without closing them. When i take the eyepieces off they have condensation on the inside. So i'm guessing as long as your eyes stay clean and moist, you can keep them open for a long time.
#3
I tried it with white ping pong balls just now and it worked just as well as with my red pair.

A handy tip: Put blu tack around the edge of the ping pong ball eyepieces. This will help keep them stuck to your eyes while blocking out unwanted light, and it's also quite comfortable.

As for light intensity, i've found that sitting directly under a lamp hinders the effect. I just lie on my bed with the ceiling light on, and everything works great.

Each time i do this, the visuals become more defined and more intense. Good stuff.
#4
In the dark? your eyes would have nothing to ignore, so the whole effect is pointless. it would be like meditating with your eyes closed i guess. Just normal.

I bought 6 ping pong balls, and it takes one per eyepiece. I've already got a red pair, so i'm gonna make a white pair, and a green pair, and see if there is any difference.
#5
well i just tried this again with a less intense light, and it worked really well! It was instant meditation, as advertised. Very impressive. I think this will be a nice way to practice phasing, because you can literally see your vision turn itself off. One moment my entire visual field is red, the next moment it has faded to black. That's when i get what seems to be hypnogogic hallucinations, but it doesn't take very long at all to get to this stage. Maybe 3 of 4 minutes at most.The hard thing is staying like that for long periods of time.

I think, with practice, i'll be able to do it instantly. Thinking too much about my body, the ping pong balls, and everything else hinders my progress.
#6
If you subscribe to Frank's Phasing Model (and i do. he talks about things i'd noticed to be true before reading his stuff),  luicd dreams, normal dreams, astral projections, and OOBEs are all the same state of conciousness(should that be 'focus of attention'?). The only thing that differentiates these experiences is your will and expectation.

If you're having very vivid lucid dreams, why not try and teleport yourself somewhere within the real world without holding any expectations as to what it will be like, and perhaps you'll be in an astral projection.
#7
Quote from: SwimmingbearSumday,

How long did your session last?

I read in one place that a person could start to feel the effects (see things) in a few minutes.  In another source I read it could take a couple of hours before things really start to kick in.

Is there anyone who has experience using the ping pong ball method that could give a few pointers or explain things in further detail?
The time it took etc..

SB

it was about half an hour each time i tried. I have pretty rubbish powers of visualization, so maybe this was the problem. Or maybe i was thinking about the ping pong balls too much or something.
#8
this didn't work for me. I tried it first with white ping pong balls, painstakingly cut into a shape that covers my entire field of vision. I then colored them evenly in red and tried again, but nothing much happened. Once or twice i had the beginnings of what felt/looked like a hynogogic hallucination, but nothing to get excited about. One of them was an indistinguishabe feature that appeared to be on a ceiling of some kind, but that disappeared as quickly as it came.

It's a good thing ping pong balls are relatively cheap.
#9
It seems like the ganzfield effect works by giving the brain a wealth of meaningless data. The moment the brain recognizes that there is no useful information to be deciphered from the data, it just ignores it.

I'm definitely going to try this soon. Although i don't have any ping pong balls, maybe i can come up with some other way of doing it.