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#1
At the moment I believe that your astral body floats in your physical body or just slightly above it whilst dreaming and this also applies when lucid dreaming.  I believe that unless you find yourself paralysed or in a state where you decide to project, then this will always be the case.  I think that sometimes though for whatever reason, your astral body can slip away from your physical body whilst dreaming and its sometimes possible to tune into where your astral body is located be it consciously or not and then start wondering about from there.  From studying the subject over the last few years and comparing with my own experiences, this seems to make the most sense to me.. for now.
#2
Not last night but the night before, I had a really strange OBE experience. I had a few projections where I'd just be heading for my bedroom door and going through it and then returning straight back to my body and then a bit later I found myself becoming lucid in one of these environments where it seems like your at a location rather than something your mind has simply created if you know what I mean. I was in this garden area with a few greenhouses scattered about talking to this man with short brown hair who I think was named Scott and I asked him if he knew what astral projection or out of body experiences were. He said 'of course I do' I said do you visit the website 'astral pulse' at all? He said 'yes I do'.. I said a few other things but cant quite remember what was said. Then I went to feel for my cord which is common place now and once again, there it was attached to the back of my head. When I went to feel for it, this man looked at me and I asked him 'Do you have one of these at all?' He went to feel for it and he didn't have one. I moved closer to him and felt for it myself and as I did this, I felt a big tug on the back of my head and a snapping noise and I looked at him and he was smiling.. I thought oh my god! and willed myself back hoping that I 'could' actually get back and I started panicking a little. Then on returning, I found myself completely paralysed and not able to move or speak for what seemed like a good minute and then I finally was able to get up out of bed. This is actually unusual too as the sleep paralysis is usually only short and lasts only 5 or so seconds if that.

This thing with the cord does make me wonder though and is my main focus when either out of body or lucid in a dream but I also wonder if its only there because I'm expecting it to be there..
#3
I find that most of my OBE's are the day 'after' a heavy session on the alcohol.  As to why this is, I still dont know.
#4
Sounds interesting, what was the name of the program by the way?
#5
Something that often happens with me to be honest.. I'll project and everything is just like in an OBE state but something always crops up that doesn't make sense that makes me question what I'm experiencing and where I am (if anywhere).   
#6
Yea I've noticed that its not very common.  I've been having OBE's for about 3 years now and before this it was all lucid dreams but its only been over the last 3 or 4 months that I've noticed my cord.  I read about it ages ago and its not something I really focused on when I was having an OBE and usually I'd just roam about the house or outside and not think about it but the first time I noticed the cord was by accident when I put my hands in front of me to see what my hands looked like and on doing that, my hands came into contact with it and it seemed to come into view only when touched.  Now, when I have an OBE, I seem to want to see if its there and it has been there in each OBE.  The only differences has been how thick my cord is in each OBE and how dense it is.  It seems that when I'm close to my physical, the cord is less dense and thin but when further away, its much thicker and denser and almost like rubber. 
#7
Something I posted on another forum yesterday which you may find of interest..

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Just had multiple OBE's. :)

It's amazing to think that only a few minutes ago, I was layed in bed repeatedly projecting out of my body and wondering about the house. I had a really heavy drinking session yesterday and I've felt terrible today cos of it but on the plus side, It's always an ideal opportunity for an OBE attempt cos for some reason, I seem to be able to do it much much easier.

I was layed on my bed with my arms down my side and trying to clear my head of all thoughts which I pretty much did and then came the little warm tingling feelings in the ends of my fingers and then a few minutes later it got to the point where my limbs felt dead so then I slowly sat up (mentally) and I noticed how the floor felt which was the same as physically and I could feel the wooden beams on the bottom of my foot as weve not got carpets down at the moment. I headed straight for the door, passed through it a couple of times seeing if I could notice the difference in texture as we've had a new and solid one put on and I could but very very slightly. I headed for the landing and my vision wasn't clear at all and like looking through frosty glass. I 'said' 'clear vision please' and said it a few times as nothing changed but what I also noticed was that I was saying this physically. I tried not to say it physically but couldn't manage it. I headed downstairs and my vision became clearer but not perfect. I noticed some changes and how not everything looked like it should. For example we've just had our kitchen wall knocked through but the wall was still there. I went into the kitchen and at this point my vision quickly faded and I realised I was back in my physical but still semi paralysed so I projected again and I did this several times and kept loosing it once I got to the kitchen.

Eventually, I managed to project and get past the kitchen and I headed outside noticing the time on the cooker.. 5:35 . I got to the back door and decided to check for my cord again but before I put my hand to the back of my head I tried not to expect the cord to be there if you like. I slowly put my hand to the back of my head and couldn't feel anything and thought 'hmm this is a first but then I put my hand to the very top of my head and there it was but it was so thin like a piece of cotton. I felt around where it was connected to my head and it just seemed to go straight into my head. I then decided to not bother going outside and wanted to see how it felt on my physical head so I floated back upstairs and back through my bedroom door and I couldn't see myself and my bed was like it is now but I just couldn't see myself layed on top of it. I thought to myself 'well yea this is odd but I'm bound to be there' so I felt for the cord again and ran my hands down it to follow it back to my physical head and sure it enough it led to my physical head which I could feel but not see. On my physical head, where it joined, there was a few little bumps where it joined but barely noticeable and it kind of branched out a little bit. I held my cord in my hands again and couldn't believe how thin it was and I thought to myself again 'if I tugged this or it snapped somehow, would I remain in this state, possibly seen as a ghost'.

I decided to will myself back and got out of bed and went to check the cooker to see what time it was and it said 6:05 which is 30 minutes more than what it said when out. I felt all dazed for a bit trying to pull myself together a bit but feel fine now. I was just talking to my mum and dad after what I just experienced and in the back of my mind I'm thinking 'if only you could of just experienced what I have'. I told my mum and dad about my OBE's ages ago and don't really mention it now cos they just think its weird and I was dreaming. They really haven't a clue have they.
#8
What you could try as a verification experiment perhaps, is put some sound recording device in the other room and when out of body, float over to it and shout as loud as you can into it and see if it picks anything up.
#9
I've experienced this many times.  I believe that if your not fully paralysed and your aware of your breathing, then when you try to get out, it causes this feeling.  Usually I'll let myself go a bit more and then attempt to project again and then there's no pressure around my chest.
#10
I see my cord quite often.  The first time, I came across it by accident when I put my arms out in front of me to maintain lucidity.  I did this and felt something in the air and on looking more closely, I realised what it was and it was kind of like tinsel and a silvery blue colour and sparkling.  The other day I had an OBE and found myself down the road from where I live and decided to have a feel again so I put my hand to the back of my head and there it was but this time it was more solid almost like rubber and transparent.  I held it in front of me and noticed there was 2 layers to it like 1 cord within another and they twisted round each other.  I thought at the time 'I wonder if I tugged this and it snapped, would I be able to wake up'.
#11
Yea I experience this quite a lot.  Not sure what it is though.. sometimes its the covers then other times its me and the covers slowly being dragged.
#12
Hmm... I imagine you can go back but not forward.
#13
So do dream characters have any purpose do you think?  Every time I challenge a dream character, I get an angry stare as if I'm not supposed to be speaking to them or as if there going to get into trouble if they speak with me and straight away I can feel myself starting to phase out and wake up.  Do they know something that we don't perhaps?  There was one time when I managed to talk to this old guy but that was a one off.  What baffles me is when I've never even seen the person in my waking life and a lot of them tend to have there own personality.  I also wonder what I look like to them.  Once when I had an OBE and looked in the mirror, my eyes where all white and rolled back and I noticed I was floating about a foot off the ground.
#14
Its kind of what I've been thinking..

When I've projected and I'm floating about the house completely conscious of what I'm doing and aware that I'm actually asleep in bed, I think to myself.. if a ton weight dropped on my head right now, would I just remain here and end up as a ghost? and also... what if the only way to experience more than death would be to be in this state and if your not or if you don't consciously decide to project as your dying then that's all there is with no afterlife.  Its a heavy thought I know but what if all those ghosts that people have seen took it upon themselves as there dying, to project? and of course, can't return to there physical body. 
#15
Do you think that having a lot of experience with lucid dreaming and OBE's will help when I die?  For example will it be easier to come through to the physical in some way or other or show myself in others dreams.  Do you think I'll have some sort of a role given to me once I die perhaps? 

I've had lucid dreams all my life and there's not much I cant do now (when lucid that is, I'm still working on many things during OBE state) and I find myself teaching people how to fly, pass through walls and generally just creating things in front of me and watching others reactions.  Assuming there's more to life than the physical, I often wonder after experiencing all of this, whether I'll have a bit of an head start compared with somebody who hasn't experienced a lucid dream or OBE or someone that doesn't even remember any of there dreams because to them, surely all of this will be completely new..?

Just a thought. :)
#16
Not last night but the night before, I had a few minor sperations that didn't really go anywhere apart from the last one.

I was in my usual half paralysed state and carefully eased myself out and headed through my bedroom wall and onto our street. I worked my way round the corner of our street and at the same time I was a little anxious of how far to go. I looked up at the sky and it was black but I saw something which I've seen before a few times which is that the sky was a much more darker black if that makes sense and the stars and moon where much brighter and twinkled more and it was like there was no clouds or at least none that where visible to me at that moment and as well as these stars there where other objects that looked pretty much the same but that shot all the way across the sky and some sort of spiralled across the sky really fast. I was stood there for a good 30 seconds just thinking to myself.. 'are these shooting stars? ufos? or even other people flying about out of body pssibly? or something else. After a while of just staring at all this activity in the sky totally fascinated by it all, I willed myself back.

It got me thinking though... I wonder if its much easier to notice these things when out of body? and maybe that's why I never really see much cloud when out too? The next day, I was stood at the bus stop and was looking up at the part of the sky that I was looking at whilst out of body and thinking to myself 'I wonder if there's something going on right now up there that we just cant see with the naked eye..?'
#17
I had what was possibly more of a lucid dream the other night and in an instant without even thinking about it, my dream turned to the 18th century and everything turned black and white and I was observing this guy busy making a front door for his house which is just down the road from me, it was really fastanating seeing everything like it was at that time and the people where dressed completely different.  I didn't experience the seperation though so I'd class it as a lucid dream I think.  The different things that can happen in a dream or OBE is amazing, it seems everytime I go tosleep, I experience something totally different just alately. :)
#18
I've seen it twice now and the first time I wasn't actually looking for it but just happened to stumble across it as I waved my hands out in front of me after projecting.  When I did this, I felt a kind of static energy in a certain area in front of me like tinsel and then on inspecting more closely, it became more visable though when I put my arms back, it wasn't visible.  On running my hand along it, I noticed it went straight up onto my ceiling spreading across it and dropping down my back wall attaching itself onto my physical head. 

The second time, I projected and floated out to the front of my house and was floating about and then I looked back at my bedroom window and saw it go from the back of my astral head, right up into the air and then arch down going straight through my outside wall into my room.

Even so.. I'm still not sure what to think.. The problem is... once someone suggests something, it can quite easily be introduced to your OBE's/lucid dreams so even if you do notice it, your still back at square one again wondering if its because you read/heard about it or not.
#19
I've heard having a clear mind is better for OBE's although most of my OBE's are the day 'after' I've had a heavy drink when I'm feeling really rough and tired.  I always expect to have an OBE the day after drinking and most of the time I will do.  There usually spontaneous and will happen at some point throughout the night where I'll wake up slightly paralysed and I'll go with it and project.  This can repeat several times after and can actually be a little frustrating if I just want to go to sleep. 
#20
I find this really fascinating. :)

I've had a fair few OBE's where I've had to really put my all into getting through my window.  I've been hanging out my window for a while before really struggling to get my lower half through and was almost laughing at the same time imagining someone walking past and seeing a ghostly image of me half hanging out my window getting really frustrated. :)  I tend to just go for the wall now as I'm through the other side straight away with no problems at all.  I've still not gone through a mirror but I've seen myself in one floating a foot above the ground with my eyes rolled right back.  I think I posted that somewhere.  I think that's going to be my next aim when I get out actually, to head for a mirror.     
#21
That's interesting, I've not heard that before. :)
#22
I have to say, I'm always getting confused as to 'where' I actually am due to all the variations.  If I experience the separation itself first, then I usually assume that I'm having an OBE but then I'll float downstairs and talk to my mum wondering if she'll talk back to me, which she does and then I'm left completely baffled.  Someone said on another forum 'It's all about your level of awareness'.  I guess if you feel completely aware, then it would be at the OBE end of the scale and the other end being a dream that just flows on like a film without any awareness whatsoever.  I have many lucid dreams and probably 1 OBE every week or so but there's always those little questions that never seem to be answered properly, though its those that keep me hooked on the subject.  :-)

#23
When I project, if I have the option of going through my wall or window then I usually go through the wall.  My wall seems really easy to pass through and less dense where as my window is the opposite and I'm not too keen on that glassy scratchy feeling as your trying to pass through.
#24
Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: Good book?
December 11, 2007, 11:51:40
I'd go with Journeys Out of the Body by Robert A. Monroe.  You can always get your tecniques online I find.  Journeys out of body really draws you in and I found it to be really fascinating especially when you find yourself relating to things. :)
#25
I told my friends about the OBE's I have and they basically laughed at me.  The problem with me is I suffered really bad with social anxiety and depression at the time which to be honest seems to be what sparked my first OBE's off but didn't help in trying to convince them that these OBE's where real.  When I told my mum and dad, they said 'what do you mean have you seen a ghost?'.  I said no, basically when you go to sleep there's a certain point where your body turns paralysed just before you dream.. well I've been waking up as this is happening and then I can sit up and wonder about my room and house whilst my body is asleep'.  My dad said 'you mean your sleepwalking?' and laughed.  I just gave it up as a bad job and I've never mentioned it again.  The only place I talk about them now is on-line on forums like this one.  It seems the more OBE's I have, the more I want there to be an afterlife just so I could prove to them that I wasn't bonkers after all. :)