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Hi everyone!  

It seems like its became very easy to know when I'm in the non-physical (dreaming not OBE's).  Has anyone also has this experience after practicing OBE's for awhile?  It seems the more I dream and have OBE's the more I realize I'm dreaming because it doesn't feel anything like an OBE.  Before I had my first OBE it was super hard for me to break from the dream scene or realize I was dreaming at all.  Now it seems I can see the dreams forming around me before I go to sleep.

My most recent example was a few nights ago I took a small 35 minute nap.  I wasn't trying to have an OBE but I was definitely open to the possibility.  Usually when I want to have an OBE I simply stay aware and wait and feel the "quiet spot".    

I was laying in bed, ready to fall asleep but I didn't feel that quiet spot.  Instead it was like my non-physical body was just waiting for me to make a move.   I started to feel like a liquid puddle of a human laying in my bed.  I could see a fuzzy outline of what my room looks like although it was all brown tinted (probably because I was thinking of the door which is brown).

I began to think about leaving this puddle and I could feel my thoughts forming into something I could transfer into and control.  Its funny because I know my thoughts are more real than my physical body in this world so of course I could leave my body with this technique.

I was slowly moving towards the door in this smoke form when I asked for clarity.  Although clarity wasn't that great after the request so I tried it again and still the same thing.  I had more control but it still felt like a dream.  

I opened my door and saw a room full of children.  I wasn't very interested in them for some reason so I closed the door.  I opened it up again and the children still remained although this time they seemed to be more agressive looking.  

I flew past the children and through the wall which brought me to what I feared most, the ocean.  I flew high up in the sky and blasted downward into the ocean.   Everything was fine until I thought of something huge coming from under me about to swallow me whole.    The weird thing is usually in my dreams I don't feel as pure, I feel too human and my human emotions usually get the best of me.  Such as fear and destruction.  Once I felt the mouth coming around me I let out a super sonic wave which destroyed everything and I woke up feeling like I didn't handle that situation very well.

Its got me super excited though as it seems like dreams are just going to be another chance to OBE

Thanks for the great info everyone! 

I actually haven't studied any type of meditation yet although now I'm going to start.  Its so crazy how happiness can bring even more happiness.  When you think life can't get any more amazing it does! 

Do people ever do meet ups from this site?

Hi WhatIsReal,

The fact you got to the vibrations and hearing names is a good sign.  I think that is the hardest part for some people.  its that quiet spot right before the vibrations come or noises.  I would recommend the shop as it will make your subconsicious always be thinking about OBEs which helps.

I also recommend buying a book, my favorite is:
Adventures Beyond the Body: How to Experience Out-of-Body Travel [Paperback]
William Buhlman (Author)

I feel a book maybe even more helpful than a workshop and cheaper.   This book is great, it really gets you immersed in the idea of the non-physical. I got my first OBE from this book by simply reading it.  I wasn't even trying to have an OBE when it occurred.  Its all about thinking about it throughout the day and really getting excited about it. 

Thanks!  Yes its all very new and exciting!  I think it really helps if you have a loving mind.  Its easy to do once you just tell yourself and think about it logically.  When I say loving I'm not saying you can't have dark thoughts or constantly be thinking of sex.

Its more about not letting negative things affect you such as hate, stress, sadness, etc.  Once you can purge these emotions your mind is very calm all the time and you can really focus on anything you want.  Its also not really acting like these things don't exist or pushing them down.  Its more about recognizing them and realizing why would you ever let any of these emotions stay in your mind at all.  All they do is bring more negative emotions when you recall them. 

Although I think the one downside I've found to having this mindset is some may view you as emotionless.  For example anytime I breakup with someone or something bad happens to me, people are amazed at how it doesn't phase me which makes them conclude I'm emotionless.   I think its totally worth it though and you may also notice an increased power of all your thoughts and emotions once you can change your mindset (if you haven't already).  

I've read about that system after I already had the strong high frequency vibrations above my chest.  Although its only above my chest that I ever feel the vibrations before exiting.  I've never felt any of the other points.   Although I did have an even higher frequency vibration the next night right after my first OBE that can't be compared to any of the other ones.

The thing that shocked me was trying to exit after being lucid.  I guess I never thought this would be possible although I did read about others doing similar things. I wasn't really looking for a confirmation about how different lucid dreams to OBEs are for me.  I treat any type of non-physical experiences equally.  But sometimes when I talk to others they just say it sounds like a lucid dream.  I just brushed it off and thought well to put names on any experience is odd and shouldn't make the experience any less amazing.   

Hi everyone!

Super weird experience lastnight.   I was having a dream and I wasn't lucid I don't think.  It was almost like I was just following the dream but in the dream I was actually trying to have an OBE.  My surroundings were very metal and dark, almost like I was in an underground city that got blown apart years before.  I had some people with me although I didn't know who they were but continued to follow the dream out.   

I soon found myself upon this huge metal scrap and the lady also next to me.  She bent over like she was going to pray and I laid on her back as if this was the natural thing to do.   I then closed my eyes and the best way to describe it is I was letting my non-physical reach out of my body.  I remember thinking, OH wow this is so easy! I found a way to get to the vibrational state in a few seconds just by letting my non-physical reach out.  I could visually see some mist reaching out of my body and as soon as the mist reached out I could instantly feel the vibrations although they were less powerful than I felt in the physical.  I didn't go anywhere I was just impressed I could feel the vibrations so fast and so easy in this state of consciousness. 

I then repeated this about 4 times to make sure this technique was solid.  After the 4th attempt failed I then realized I was actually dreaming already.  I still feel this wasn't an OBE because once the vibrations went away I was still in the same spot.  I then wanted to see how different a lucid dream was to an OBE.  I requested clarity and the clarity I got was pretty good but nothing compared to what I experienced during an OBE. 

I then knew someone was in the far distance that I wanted to see and I started running super fast (which is also something I never do in the astral).  In the astral I'm always flying and I dont' run, I simply teleport to where I want to go.  I also noticed I'm not as aware in the lucid dreams.  Even after asking for clarity things seem disconnected and my attention can't  focus on more than one thing.  While in the astral I can focus on everything and it feels REAL where a lucid dream feels like a dream although the surroundings are very similar (meaning you can do whatever you want).  I recall the feeling of going through the steel walls and it feeling just like it does in the astral.   Once I met the person I wanted to see sex occurred which is also something I never do in the astral either as I get this feeling of pureness. So sex never even comes into my mind as I feel its a waste of time and something I wouldn't want to do.  I then got transported into another crazy dream and woke up for work.

I honestly don't care to put terms on my experiences but this was the first time I could actually tell the difference since I now can compare with my OBEs. 

So to summarize, the differences I noticed:
LUCID
1.  Clarity isn't as good, even after requesting
2.  Form of transportation is more human (although It can be changed of course)
3.  Sexual desires still are there

OBE
1.  Clarity is amazing, you can zoom up on anything and everything
2.  Floating all the time without thinking about it, teleporting if I need to go somewhere
3.  No desire of sex, just a feeling of pureness
4.  A feeling that time is running (probably because I feel like I'm going to go back to my physical)
5.  Feels like a real experience, and I recall everything very easily

Hi everyone,

I've never really thought of myself as a spiritual person until after I had my first OBE.   Now I view myself as a complete energy being trapped inside a biological vehicle.  Ever since I made this mental switch from a physical being to an energy being its seemed to have unlocked some interesting things.

For example, I've always had a feeling of sensing emotions around me even if I can't see the persons facial expression.  This feeling increases dramatically if I'm smoking marijuana.  After I concluded that I wasn't my physical body at all but in fact an energy being all these feelings of energy increased beyond anything I've ever felt before. 

The best way to explain it is if you felt slight internal vibrations and you then requested to increase these vibrations.  The vibrations are different from the feeling I get when I'm about to go into the non-physical.  The vibrations I feel when I'm about to exit are more external.  I can feel for example a high frequency ball of energy above my chest.  But these vibrations I'm feeling now are deep inside me.   I can get to the point where I no longer feel my body at all but I only feel like a ball of energy and if I'm sitting up I could fall forward so its best done when laying down. 

An even more exciting change I discovered was a weird intuition of what a person is thinking.  This although isn't mind reading, its more like if someone wants to express something without saying it I feel what they want a few seconds before they actually verbally tell me.  I've only experienced this with my one roommate so I'm not sure why its linked to her and no one else.  I have a hard time enjoying peoples company especially if I view them as a possible partner after awhile.  I like to think of myself as a very carefree person who doesn't allow much stress or negative thoughts to enter my mind or if they do they simply pass by.  I think this is why I dislike relationships so much as its much harder to just let negative thoughts go away if they are coming from your significante other.  I wonder if my feelings towards her influences these experiences of feeling her thoughts sometimes. 

I'm not sure what it is but it feels like I finally know my true self and before it was almost like someone behind a mask waiting to be let out.   

The only questionable part is I'm afraid I may overload my senses and cause a seizure.  Is it possible to induce a seizure on yourself by overloading your brain with stimulus?  I almost felt like I was going to pass out because I was requesting more and more stimulus and it would increase accordingly.  Once I felt like I've increased it too much, I asked myself to balance out again which lowered the vibrations and I could feel my body again. 

A part of me wants to see what happens when I don't limit the energy but another part makes me feel like it may overload my physical body. 

Anyone else have any similar experiences or can give some guidance?

 

Hi everyone!

So I've lately been having some interesting experiences with my roommate.  She never had any OBE's and doesn't really believe in any of it but I tell her my stories anyways.  Well the first night I had my first real OBE the next night she was thinking something and I a split second before she said something I was already pointing at what she was wanting I was like wait, did I just read your mind?

It wasn't like I heard her thoughts but it was like her anticipation to express what she wanted was already in my mind.

After this I didn't really think much of it but then we both took some substances a few nights ago and there was no question we could sense each others emotions.  For example I was outside in the yard and I felt confusion and panic but I knew it wasn't my own feelings as I was loving my current surroundings so I immediately rolled into the room and she was freaking out because she had no idea how to type, I laughed and took the keyboard from her.   She then even brought up that idea that we are sharing thoughts. 

I feel we can tap into senses such as feeling people around you without opening your eyes in the physical (on substances) it seems to be even more enhanced.  I recall closing my eyes completely and knowing exactly where she was in the room and we did some experiments which worked as if my eyes were open the whole time.  Its like I could see an energy field of life around her but couldn't see details with my eyes closed.

Any ideas on this?   

I feel fear is a very human emotion that can manifest itself into something more.  The more you believe something the more real it gets.  I wouldn't recommend video taping what you feel is a bad entity.  By video taping you are basically making it even more real by feeling you can catch it up on tape. 

Also next time you encounter something scary in the astral don't fight it, either let it know your not afraid or embrace it in love.  You can transform fear into love much easier than trying to fight fear as it will only make it stronger the next time you're in the astral as it will always be on your mind.   

Sounds like an amazing time!

When you asked the questions, were they answered?  Also when you asked the questions did you simply ask or did all of you want to be answered?  If they weren't answered next time instead of just asking a question, really want an answer which I find increases the chance of being answered.

Happy travels!

Thanks! thats very helpful.  I've felt that state of pure bliss and I just accepted it without wanting to project.  Next time it occurs I'll just continue to welcome it and see how powerful it can get. 

Its interesting now that I know the feeling the bad part isn't bad at all, its more like a signal that the happiness is soon to come which instantly dissolves the fear and the love overcomes it instantly. 

I was wondering is there a time limit on how long you can be in the vibrational state?   I just had another experience where I had a sense someone was near me and I welcomed that feeling which turned into intense vibrations on my chest which usually occurs.  But when I'm in this state I usually have the feeling like my time is limited to go from vibrations to actually exiting my body.

The more I focus on the vibrations the stronger they get but theres always a sense that I have to hurry up and get out of my body before the vibrations stop which results in a less successful exit. 

I totally agree from the above statements.  If we have any beliefs that humans have put into our minds, its their reality they are pushing on us.  For me, I'll believe anything I experience and make my conclusion based on my own personal development. 

That's awesome news Soarin!  I would welcome the OBEs as they come.  You may not always have them as easily accessible to you.  For example, my first OBE was amazing, then the next day I had another huge loving vibration, the strongest I've ever had.  I was too excited though to exit my body and I just let the vibrations flow over me like a healing light. 

There is no connection with OBE's and not getting a restful sleep.  So you can have an OBE and wake up very energized.  If you think OBEs will keep you from having a restful sleep though they may.  I think its how you look at the OBEs and what they mean to you.

That loud "BANG" you hear is reported by many others.  Its actually a common experience and may not be related to the sounds in your house being amplified. Some feel its a simulated sound that occurs when your non-physical body is getting out of phase with your physical.  I've never heard the bang but I do always feel the entities approaching.  Before I feel them approaching it becomes very quiet and still and I know its go time!

what an excellent story!  The non-physical is an amazing place indeed.  So when you are usually in the astral are you walking or what is your form of transportation from point A to B?  For me its always flying (maybe because I'm in a wheelchair) and if I need to go somewhere its usually by teleportation, at first I thought it was flying but its so fast that I can't see if I'm flying or just appearing in the new position. 

The weird part is in dreams I'm always walking, but in the astral is flying.  I recall having huge issues in lucid dreams trying to fly.  My legs would always go up in the air first and my lower body would be pointing to the floor.

Thats super interesting chopstick, is he still around and when you saw him as a child, what did he look like? or was it a feeling that someone was near you and you would hear him?  Give as much detail as possible about how you would communicate.  I've always heard about this but never met someone who had this occur.

I haven't tried to ask for a guide yet, but next OBE i'm simply going to ask for assistance.  I heard this is the only request you need to get a guide to find you (they claim you are always being watched) but they don't interfere unless you ask or they can tell you need help. 

What I've learned from OBE's and any other type of mind opening substance is YOU are your own enemy.  Everything you are experiencing is because you are letting it effect you.  First example, "Ever since my father died it felt like someone was following me."  You some how manifested this in your own mind that perhaps your father was sticking around and following you around as a child.  The more you believed this, the stronger it would become (which it did as you mentioned).  As soon as you got the church involved it made that feeling of someone following you even more real, which fed the fears even more. 

Same with the feeling of negative energy you just mentioned below.  From my own experiences, I always felt things moving my body, voices saying things that seemed to be in a different language, dark entities moving me around, choking me (which wasn't them at all, it was me, holding my breath), etc.

Your mind is yours alone.  You must take control of your thoughts and realize you are a powerful spiritual energy that can overcome anything.  Once you become unafraid of these uncomfortable feelings, you then can welcome these "bad" feelings because you know you can't be harmed and your life will settle once again. 

Next time you feel those things coming near you, welcome them, get excited they are there and push love onto them.  Actually you don't even have to mentally push love onto them, that may seem like a battle between light and dark when its not that at all.  Fear is simply a low frequency of energy, love is a high frequency.  You are basically just changing the frequency level of the emotion which in effect transforms fear into love. 

You will soon find that you can transform darkness into light.  The only thing to be afraid in the non-physical is yourself.  Only you can overcome these issues by facing them front on and realizing they aren't anything to be afraid of, fear is just a human emotion, just like love.  You can take any external stimulus and transform it into anything you want.  If you feed fear, it will become stronger.  If you want to make fear into love, you can do that just as easily as you can feed the fear itself. 

You may ask yourself, "How can I mentally welcome these bad entities, or encourage them to increase their presence?"   If you feel a bad energy approaching you, get excited because you are most likely in the "quiet zone" which is a place where your thoughts are very sensitive to the environment. The worst thing you can do to these entities is try to fight them or protect yourself from them.  These bad entities aren't there to hurt you and you will soon find out once you welcome them to come.  They will instantly transform from fear to love and you will probably feel an intense vibration all throughout your body which is the next stage before you leave your body and enter the non-physical. 

For me I think about the bad entities as a verification that its almost time to leave my body.  So thats how I excited when I feel them near me, because I know soon after that, I'll be flying around in higher energy dimensions having the time of my life. 

Although on the other spectrum this is only my beliefs.  I do believe once your life ends your consciousness is released into the non-physical.  But I'm not sure what dimension you are released into.  When I think of the possibilities of ghosts, I do think of people who have ended their life and have so much self regret they can't pass onto into higher dimensions but are stuck in their own misery until they realize they can free themselves from all the misery if they just tried.  But this could be way off and probably is, when you think of the physical its more of a training ground for the consciousness to grow and develop.  Through hardship you grow as a person and you begin to realize the things you use to think were problems really aren't problems at all. 

But then you ask yourself, what about the children who have been raised in constant tourment?  If  you were raised to hate, you had no chance to develop your own consciousness but instead be brainwashed by another.  So for these people its almost like why would they be stuck in a lower energy existence just because another person has screwed their development?  So the rules seem very unfair if thats the case. 

But there is no doubt in my mind that we are energy beings and our consciousness is what stays forever after death even after the body dies.  But our senses are purely biological, the fact we see, hear, smell, etc I feel are all just biological traits we use in the physical.  In the non-physical, I heard from author's who have been doing OBE's for 20+ years, In the higher the energy level you enter your senses do fade and you just exist and accept/give energy.  It sounds like a wonderful experience I plan on attending when I'm ready!

I did have a similar experience when I was on a substance where I saw a blue energy glowing and some how I knew that energy was me and when I accepted the energy it was the most relaxing and amazing feeling I've ever felt.  If you blew out a candle and as the smoke raising, imagine if your whole existence was that smoke, so free and unformed.  When I came back to the physical my whole body was radiating this high frequency feeling that lasted several minutes. 

If you believe something with all your heart, even in the physical you will be affected by your thoughts.  I remember thinking there was a spirit/demon messing with me one night when I was studying for finals.  I freaked myself out so much that when I laid on the bed I literally felt something move my hair and touch my nose when I was trying to sleep.  The more I focused on it, the worst it became.   As soon as I stopped paying attention to it, it went away completely.

I can totally understand your fear of the ocean.  I am too super freaked out by dark water although if I'm scuba diving its not scary but beautiful.  if I'm above the surface and can't see whats around me I'll always be uneasy.  Usually the only scary dreams I have anymore involves water and usually some feeling that something is going to eat me soon

If I'm presented water in the astral who knows what I would do.  I would probably attempt to change its color to make it not look like water but instead like liquid air and then jump in

I've never had such an experience in the astral so I would imagine if you are viewing a past event you would feel the energy around you (and in this case it would be terror).  You could also try some shielding technique like requesting you won't feel any negative energy or ask to be protected by a shield of love/warm light.  But perhaps the images alone would still cause the sad emotions.  How did you travel to such an event or did this occur right after the separation into the non-physical?

With a little bit of work I'll bet you might just find that they are more scared of you.

I hope to find some more negative energies in the astral so I can do some experiments on them.  I heard traveling from the 1st energy level (the semi copy of the physical) up to space a lot of people claim bad energy lies there keeping you from traveling further into the universe.  But the more I read about it, its probably just the fear of the unknown.

Interesting I guess I never really looked much into past lives, I'll definitely check out that video though.  I always wondered why it was so easy for me to let go of things that brought me dislike.  It seems I have a natural filter for negative things.  Perhaps its because I know there are very few things you really need to worry about in the world.  But before my injury I use to worry about my grades, pleasing my girlfriend, looking perfect, etc. 

After I woke up with my life turned up side down it really made me realize how I was looking at life totally wrong.  I was worrying about the future that may never occur ( you could die for example).  Now I live day by day, loving every moment of it.  I guess thats how anyone can purge stress and unhappiness from their life.  I have spent the last 4 years setting up my life to be as pleasurable as possible.  I sometimes wonder when I will feel like a grown up or old.  I'm guessing it won't ever happen if I keep this life style. 

Another HUGELY important thing was the balance of work and life.  I'm a software engineer so you can easily get your life completely consumed by work and money.  I soon found out after you pass a certain income, the more money coming in isn't making me any happier.  So I picked a job that would pay the bills with some extra but I won't have to be a slave to the industry.  Life is a constant balancing act!

I can truly say with all my heart illegal substances and OBE's have changed my life for the better.  Its sad so many will die without expeirencing such mind opening experiences.   I guess sharing stories is one way to share the light