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Why? Are you afraid to close them? If you are you won't get far with this.

Try to learn how to AP the easy way, before you take on a more difficult task like this. I can't say the "right" way, because there really is no "right" way.

Like Xanth says, whatever it takes you to achieve a non physical focus will work.

Am I afraid to close them? no! most AP techniques you would but with the ganzfeld technique you NEED your eyes open or the effect is pretty much ineffective. The Q I had is can it eventually work with your eyes open? a simple yes or no from you would be fine please.

I just hope astral projection works with your eyes open is all.

My experience has nothing to do with what you will see.

If you are truly interested in this, it's time to cut some egg shells and try it.

You can then go to youtube.com and find some free Binaural Beats that you can listen to with your headphones.

It worked for me, possibly it won't for you. But YOU are the only one that can find that out!

We have a huge Forum here that has many different techniques in the Stickies and many threads that people have created over the many years.

...and yet, we still get the same questions, with people asking us about OUR experiences.

If you wish to see our own personal progress, you can read anyone here's profile, which has every post they ever made here, from the very first time they made an account here, until today. There you will be able to see their own progression. What they tried that works and what they learned through the years. A great one to start with is Frank Kepple's.

It's time for action now. My experiences are just that, my experiences.

We all help people here learn to AP, but then it's up to them to apply it.

No technique or method is a waste of time, if you learned from it. Sometimes what you learned is that it doesn't work for you.

Well then, on to the next one! 

Ty for that but I STILL need you to tell me how you were able to "phase" into the ganzfeld field. It IS possible to do this with your eyes open right? I am not wanting to hear about your experience as much as wanting to know what effects happened as you projected using the ganzfeld effect. Were you just staring at the whiteness then it became more real and you found yourself moving in towards it? how did it get you into the astral please. I NEED this info so I can get a rough idea on what to expect if I am successful.

Also I think static noise rather than binaural beats would be more beneficial as the whole point of the ganzfeld technique is to stave the brain of information.

It was helpful because it was a great technique to learn Focus with.

I didn't use it as a "Psychic Test" as they did with the original purpose.

I used Binaural Beats for sound, put the egg shell over my eyes and then turned on a Lava Lamp.

This was basically a poor man's version of a Light/Sound Machine, but it worked.

I had Hypnogogic Imagery and the colors produced by the Lava Lamp. through the egg shells were taking on their own unique shapes.

Like I said, it was a tool, but it was a unique experience in itself.

Here is page with more conversations on this topic.
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/index.php?action=search2

Can you please be more specific. I am trying to find out if this really works and if you can eventually project this way with your eyes open. When I click that link also it just goes to the search bar.

Please tell me how you projected from the GT.

I have used the Ganzfeld effect and have had great success with it.

It was one of the things that indirectly led me to my Laxman Light/Sound Machine purchase.

I had seen the Laxman while Phasing and while searching for info on the concept, I came across the Ganzfeld Efect and decided to give it a try.

I know that David Warner has tried it as well. He has a thread somewhere on the Astral Pulse talking about his experience with it.

Just do a search on "Ganzfeld Effect" in the upper right hand corner Search Engine.

Here is what Wikipedia has to say about it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ganzfeld_experiment

Just remember though, this is just another "tool" and you will find that you will outgrow it, just like you outgrow "Training Wheels" on a bicycle.

please give me info on how it was helpful for you? how did it work? please describe your experience projecting using it. Thanks.

The main diffrence is, that problems with automatically opening eyes are solved by this techniqe. If you got such, it is recommended to try it out.

More important than the eyes is the removal of disturbing noises and the reduction of all other kinds of perceptions of the physical body. Less incoming perceptions means higher chance of success. But it does not work continoulsy during dayly or too frequent application. The highest effect is during the first weeks of frequent application. Then the effect fades more and more! (Is, what i observed during my experiments with perception reduction)

did you try it? using ganzfeld?

So I read about the ganzfeld technique and got thinking maybe this could have some potential when trying to phase into the astral although the difference is your eyes would be open and not closed. It seems good as your in a meditative trance and are deeply drawn into hallucination type images your mind creates due to the isolation.

Anyone think this has potential? anyone tried it?

Ok wouldn't it be easier if someone is really trying to become rich to forget the lottery and focus on a horse race or greyhound race. This would simply be a lot easier to memorize rather than 6 or 7 numbers sometimes backwards or what not. You would have to spend money on betting on the right horse coming in but the risk would be worth it. This would be a much better way of proof but of course people seem to try the lotto which seems more harder to do.

Thx for the all the welcomes also ty.

I understand. But there are many posters here that wouldn't lie about their experiences. This is very important to many of us and wouldn't lie about our personal experiences because of the stigma that is already attached to all of this.

But hey, Even if you are a skeptic, we would very much welcome your thoughts so long as they are not disrespectful. Anyways, please feel free to tell us about why you feel this way. If you are interested in finding out about this for your self, we would be more glad to help you.

ah I would not say I was a skeptic I know a couple of people who have been in the astral who I trust and I believe them. I think astral projection is a spiritual experience and not just all in the brain based on my own research. But however I don't believe any sort of future glimpses could be obtained whilst in the astral/rtz I just don't think its possible and can't ever be possible and those who I know who have done this agree it can't happen.

Thx for understanding also.

Hey first of all I want to say welcome to the Pulse.

Secondly, why the negativity?

hello. Sorry I just have a hard time believing that.

I did once request and see the future lottery numbers in a LD. All six numbers came up. three exactly as seen, and the other three reversed, ie 42 instead of 24. The only problem was that these six numbers came up in the Euro Lottery, and I bet on the UK Lottery! So make sure you specify exactly which lottery you mean, when you ask for the numbers!

yeh sure.