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ok i tryed the alarm clock method yesterday and i had some werid experiances.... i swear i remember projecting like 10 times that night.... and each time i was putting twords an effort like trying to control my astral body and ignoring the one on my bed etc... but i dont really remeber leaving my body.... i just remember apearing in random places.... it was like i had dreams about projecting that i could acualy control...... but i couldnt fly or pass tho walls... and everything semmed to be afected by my subcousiness what does this mean.... it was werid because i remebered placed in my dream or astral than ive never seen befor...... in the astral or dream i was looking for my friend.... to seem him laying on his bed or etc... but I WAS looking for him... but not in the same place he is at now... its like a remembered him living in a different place that he did not live at... this is very hard to explain .... ive never really had a fully obe yet... i just got confused from all this dreaming last night... in the middle of the night i remembered most of it and now i dont remember anything really... its werid.... and its like i did 10 hours of stuff in a 4 hour period.... help!

do you acualy speek this out of your mouth or just say it in your head

dang.... this is better info than any techniquies i have read.... it helps me understand now... thanks!

i was wondering if anyone wanted to give me some one on one help with projecting.. if so msg me on aim : finalturismo

always remeber that god is in control of absolutly everything... and his will ,will be done... so if you are using the astral for things you shouldent , that could be the reason

i had a really werid dream.... in the dream i was jumping.... than it seemed i gained part consoisness..... it was werid... i like appeared in some random house that i remebered in my dream.... and i was able to fly and control everything... problem is i just dont remember it all that well.... it was very werid i have not a clue if it was a dream or obe...

ive been trying with the boxed nirvana 2 everynight and i started to get a fallin sensation... and i can now its like i can feel my self falling asleep.... like iam learning the process of when you fall asleep... befor i knew about projection and i just went to sleep and fell asleep.... but for the past few nights i can feel my self falling..... and when i lisen to boxed nirvana 2 and when i almost fall asleep the music disapears.... its werid than i catch my self than i hear the music again...

eat lots of pork befor you go to sleep and project..

thanks , i will give it a try befor i go to bed

its so hard for me to go to sleep when iam lisening to boxed nirvana 2 and when i do i find the ear phones out of my ears.... so far the boxed nirvana 2 got me the farthest... i dont see how it is possible to ignor those different things that are happening to you... its so hard.... i mean lol its some serious work... thanks for the tips any more people i need as much as i can get

ok iam starting to get to the point were iam like f it.... ive been studying astral projections for about 1 month and have been atempting them for about 1 week and i have only had 1 obe .... but that was in my sleep.... everytime i attempt it i only get to the tingling.... why is this.... help!!! any recommendations.... anything i should try new... ive never been to the vibration state help me get therE..

ive been trying for about a week... i play boxed nirvana 2 and lisen to that bionary beat in the back ground... i concentrated on it for about 10 min befor all i got to was some tingling in my feet .... ive never been to the vibration stage... and when iam doing this... it seems like i can never fall asleep...

how long did it take yall to obe after yall started trying to obe

i just got boxed nirvana 2... and i have been told when all else fails this can help alot.... so i was wondering what am i sposed to focus my mind on when lisening to this?