The idea of proven is a very relative concept.
What makes you think that something can truly be proven. And if it is, what makes you think that it will be accepted?
Do you think the etheric and astral planes are proven?
If you can go beyond your concept of what is "scientifically proven", you'll see that you do not need what the "scientific community" tell you as proven before you can accept it as something as a fact.
Go to http://www.alternativescience.com and what you experience there will throw your entire paradigm of what you think is naive or not naive out of place.
It is because of the very reason that people refuse to accept certain ideas as fact whether proven or unproven, they have no guidance to rule out what is or isn't.
They put limits where they shouldn't and they don't put limits where they should. They don't know what to rule out and not rule out.
They are confused and will confuse people like you as well. I've done alot of research in these areas to finally know I don't need to follow or not follow what they say.
One of the worst mindsets to have is to believe that you need to see the experience and credentials of the person before you can take what they say is true. Some of the greatest misconceptions come from "highly credible people". It's better to judge an idea directly by itself.
By the way, the websites that I introduce here are not places which I get my ultimate foundations to know what is factual. I judge the authenticity of any knowledge based on the source knowledge that is from the most powerful places.
I was thinking that since this is the astralpulse forums and the metaphysics section, anyone here would be more open to what is not yet "scientifically proven" than others, I guess I was wrong.
Anyway I can see that you have much to learn. So I won't bother discussing with you about this. I know where you're comming from and the mindset you're in. If you'd rather stay in that mindset and not advance to the next level like I did, it's your choice to make.
Perhaps you've got to see the things that others see that aren't, and see if they really are.
What makes you think that something can truly be proven. And if it is, what makes you think that it will be accepted?
Do you think the etheric and astral planes are proven?
If you can go beyond your concept of what is "scientifically proven", you'll see that you do not need what the "scientific community" tell you as proven before you can accept it as something as a fact.
Go to http://www.alternativescience.com and what you experience there will throw your entire paradigm of what you think is naive or not naive out of place.
It is because of the very reason that people refuse to accept certain ideas as fact whether proven or unproven, they have no guidance to rule out what is or isn't.
They put limits where they shouldn't and they don't put limits where they should. They don't know what to rule out and not rule out.
They are confused and will confuse people like you as well. I've done alot of research in these areas to finally know I don't need to follow or not follow what they say.
One of the worst mindsets to have is to believe that you need to see the experience and credentials of the person before you can take what they say is true. Some of the greatest misconceptions come from "highly credible people". It's better to judge an idea directly by itself.
By the way, the websites that I introduce here are not places which I get my ultimate foundations to know what is factual. I judge the authenticity of any knowledge based on the source knowledge that is from the most powerful places.
I was thinking that since this is the astralpulse forums and the metaphysics section, anyone here would be more open to what is not yet "scientifically proven" than others, I guess I was wrong.
Anyway I can see that you have much to learn. So I won't bother discussing with you about this. I know where you're comming from and the mindset you're in. If you'd rather stay in that mindset and not advance to the next level like I did, it's your choice to make.
Perhaps you've got to see the things that others see that aren't, and see if they really are.