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Hi everyone,

Over the past 6 months i've been experiencing something quite unusual and rather amazing, I'm not sure quite how to catergorise it but I think the closest would be some for of lucid dreaming perhaps.

Basically what usually happens is, after a long period of sleeping of ususally 5-6 hours, I will wake up briefly and then drift into a wierd state of conciousness where I believe I am not dreaming or fully awake, but am perfectly aware and concious.

Now the strange thing is that during this time I have begun to experience beautiful music. Originally I would simply think about an existing song or composition and I could hear it back in amazing clarity, with every note and lyric being perfectly recreated. It was an incredibly pleasent and relaxing experience and would always awake after, often in total bewilderment.

Over the past couple of months I also have leaned that I can also create and manipulate completely original music in realtime. For example I can think to start off with a violin solo and build into a full orchestral piece. I can also change/morph the music to any genre, for example, classical to rock, rock to dance etc. It's amazing! The latest progression has been that I can create completely original vocals and lyrics to go with the music. The last experience I had, I was amazed at how everything rhymed perfectly and how the lyrics had such deep and emotional meaning.

What's most amazing to me about all this is that i've never played a musical instrument in my life and am not even what i'd call a 'musical person' and Im having trouble coming to terms with how exactly my brain is even capable of creating such vivid, intricate and moving music in realtime without a single fault. The only downside is, like some dreams, the music fades from memory quickly but the memory of the experience is very strong.

I have been thinking about these experiences a lot recently and am beginning to wonder if this strange phenomenom is limited to music. Im a 3d Environmental artist by profession and am planning to see if I can summon up imagery as well as music to inspire me in a recent project im undertaking. Currently when creating the music there is no imagery only darkness, its kind of like sitting and listening to your ipod with your eyes closed.

Im really curous as to whether I am the only one having this type of experience? or even if anyone can help explain what is going on?

Thanks!
Rob

Hmmm, I guess the link to letting go of old freinds and family could be related to a recent situation which has come up regarding moving abroad for a new job. However thingking about it more it still doesnt really seem to connect as i've been having these dreams long before this news.

Ever since I moved out in my new flat just over a year ago I have begun to have the strangest dreams which have begun to take over and ruin my sleep.

Before I moved here I only occasionally would dream (or remember my dreams) sometimes it would be weeks in-between memorable dreams and even then they would be unremarkable. But when I moved into my new flat, things changed drastically.

To start off with, the dreams were occasional and kind of pleasant enough, and I noticed they were always set in the same environment; what I came to think of as an 'alternate reality' of the town I live in now.

To describe this better, I would say that it a location that feels and looks like my town and area, but there are differences in the surroundings. For example, the park in the town is in the same location, but has many more trees and flower beds and is visually very different as are shops and buildings. This applies to many other areas but overall the layout is the same and feels very much like my town. Although it has differences these never change in the dream or 'alternative reality' world, and am now so familiar with the place, it's as if it were a real location.

To start off with the dreams were vague and didn't really go anywhere and just were focused in this location. Then after a few weeks I began dreaming about being younger and hanging out with old friends there. Pretty soon my dreams began to focus on the scenario of being back at my old school (in the same alternative reality town).
The scenarios were often quite nostalgic and I found myself dreaming of real friends and people whom I hadn't seen or spoken to in years along with some people I still know.

Although the whole thing was relatively pleasant to start off with, I began to grow concerned as the dreams became more and more frequent. Now every night I have very lucid dreams about being back at school and in this 'alternate reality', always with the same classmates and old friends usually in various different scenarios. These dreams are usually harmless but occasionally take a negative turn which leads me on to another dream I have alongside these.

I began to notice the tone of my dreams changing 6 or more months ago. At the same time as the recurring school dreams I also would dream of being back living with my mother and brother (also when I was younger, and still in this 'alternative reality'). Frequently I dream of being 'trapped' in the house while terrible arguments go on around me and feeling very angry or upset and frequently fighting to escape the situation.

In reality my memories of this house in aren't exactly amazing but they certainly aren't as negative as the dreams I have. In the dreams it's almost like the people are evil and are deliberately trying to upset me. I find myself waking up feeling very emotional, upset or angry and sometimes even shouting out.

Now I know that certain dreams can have meanings to them; the school scenario can mean I'm going through some kind of spiritual learning process and the arguments one means I could have inner conflict, but I'm confused as to what it is and why on earth it's been going on for so long and so frequently?

In reality right now, and in the past year, my life has been really good. I love having my own independence and my own flat; I work freelance and love being my own boss. My life is pretty stress free and I feel pretty confident with myself right now.

In fact the only stress I'm feeling right now is from these crazy reoccurring dreams which never cease. EVERY night I'll dream about both scenarios, often with the same themes or situations.
Feeling exhausted or tired within my dreams and being unable to sleep due to the arguments in the house is also another recurring dream (again, not tied to any real events or history)

It's gotten to the point where I actually don't enjoy sleeping. It's so strange because this stuff is never on my mind before I go to bed and usually I can be thinking about something entirely different.

Last night it occurred again, as usual, and as has happened many times before, I became lucid and realised I was just dreaming (when this dream occurs I now am so familiar I usually regognise I'm dreaming). Usually in the past I have been able to just fly out of the situation or try to change the dream into something more positive, but just recently it's almost like I have lost control. I find myself unable to change the scenario, fly or do any dream-like stuff.
For example, last night I thought to myself whilst dreaming: "ok this sucks, im gonna go dream of flying" I jumped and tried everything but nothing happened, I tried a quite a few things in fact, but had no luck; like the dream world is becoming too real.

After another disturbed night of dreams last night I feel at the end of my tether. It almost feels like my subconscious has been put into purgatory and I have to live it out this in the form of the same crazy dreams each night.

What is happening to my mind? Is my subconscious trying to tell me something, am I being influenced by something negative?

The only connection I can see with my school is that I occasionally drive by it on my way home, but this is usually pretty rare, and even then I certainly don't even acknowledge it.

Anyone got any ideas how I can get out of this vicious cycle of strange dreams?

-Rob

Hi I thought id start this thread after having another one of my regular apocapyptic dreams.

I dont know why but for a very long time now I have been having really vivid dreams of terrible things happening. The first is always a huge tidal wave! larger than you can imagine, as tall as the twin towers used to be, probably bigger. Its always a perfect day, sun shining clear skys,and im out enjoying the weather by a harbour of some sort (HK or japan i think).

Then I hear someone shouting, then many more, people start running and screaming in obvious panic and i turn to see this inescapeable tidal wave so huge that I just stand there, knowing there is nothing i can do, no escape. It comes in so fast and the dream continues right up to the point where I can feel the water hit me then the dream ends. Sometimes its in slightly different locations and I get the impression this is some kind of global event, and the wave is always the same size and the impending doom is always the same.

The second dream is always quick, shocking and just as real. In this dream it always happens in familiar places near me, like a relative or freinds house or in my own home. I'll be just relaxing or watchin TV or sometimes sleeping(strange for a dream) and then I will feel a rumbling, and some low noise like loud bass. I go to look outside and I can see the horizon glowing red, then within seconds I watch as a wall of fire races from the distanceI wake up a split second after the force hits me.

Strange huh? I think I have these dreams at least once a week, they used to be less but in the last few years they have gradually got more frequent and I feel I should post them to get them off my mind!

I'd love to hear if anyone else has dream of events like this?

Hi, I have this from time to time and I'm just wondering what it could all be about, and also if anyone else has experienced it.

Some nights, and for a long time, I will dream of people and places which are amazingly familiar to me, and yet, when I wake, I realise that these memories can not be true. For example, a couple of nights ago, I had a dream where I went back to visit my first primary school. I remember walking down this street and things started to become more and more familiar. Buildings, street names, as well as many other memories suddely came flooding into my mind, and I suddenly realised that this was where I used to go to school. It was so strange because at the time I could remember so many intimate details, like how my dad used to pick me up and drop me there in his car. Then I saw the school, and even more memories... old teachers came to mind, memories of classes i used to sit, even where and who I used to sit next to in class. Now I was begining to remember old freinds! I was only about 7-8 when i was there but as i walked in, i noticed how much it had changed... There was a computer room where the old library used to be for example!
when entering the old school, I saw one of my old teachers who I spoke to briefly and she gave me some of my old work which she had kept on file for some reason...

After waking up it took me a while to realise that this trip down memory lane never actually happened, but to this day the memories  are still strangely familiar.

As I have said before, this happens to me quite often, I seem to visit places in my drems which, even though I have never been to before, I know like the back of my hand... Even the people...

What do you think?

Hi everybody, sorry if this seems a bit off topic in this forum but as i find this a very helpful place not only for OBE but for many different aspects of life i thought i might as well gvie this a go

Basically over the past 5 years I seem to have delevloped a profound fear of flying & it has got to the point where even thinkin about getting on a plane sends me woozy
Its really begining to annoy me now as its affecting me from going on holidays/visiting freinds etc. I know im not crazy, and im definately dont need a shrink, but have been wondering what alternative techniques could help me. Im wondering about self-hypnosis/meditation and was wondering if anyone has used these in the past or have any suggestions?

Again sorry its a bit off topic but I know you guys will be helpful (i hope!)

Cheers
Rob

Hi, I just awake from what I can only describe as a half-Lucid dream, half -OBE type event. It started off as a normal projection event, being paralysed, but aware, then  I felt a tugging on my arm,as if someone was helping me out. So I let them do it, but once I was out I found myself being dragged downwards, which I heard is not a good thing so I threatened "Not down! if you take me there i will return to my body!". It didnt stop so i returned promptly.then, after slowly relaxing again (took short time, about a min) I felt the same paralysis but this time managed to project myself. At the time it seemed like a RT projection as I can remember everything so vividly. I floated out of the room and through the window (it was like breaking through a soft 'gluey' film) I then realised it wasn't my window as there was a big fountain outside, but continued anyway. This i now believe was a half OBE-Lucid dream type state, but the problem was I kept awaking and becoming conciouss again and re-projecting everytime i closed my eyes. It wouldnt stop so when i decided to get up and wake myself up a bit, I felt really, really detatched from reality (still do! almost as if this were still a dream or something) It certainly has messed me up big style, and I dont know wether im going to get any more sleep tonight as i feel so wierd, like my energy has been zapped. It felt almost as if I had awakened when doing it and began forgetting about everything in this world, in the same way you do when waking from a dream.

What is worrying me is that i just dont feel right now, I hope it goes soon, maybe its just that I am tired. Has anyone else experienced this??

Just saw the headline in yahoo, sounds very interesting, but the article is a little vague

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/030910/80/e817q.html

Cheers
Rob []

I've been having strange experiences and symptoms of OBEs since as far back as i can remember and to see all of you guys experiencing EXACTLY the same things in these forums (as well as many others) i cant believe it.
I cant help but wonder wether we are unique or just the lucky ones for finding this ability to project ourselves from the physical and realise so much more to life, or whether anyone if well enough informed to believe this stuff is real, could achive the same thing.

Tell me what you think! []

Cheers,
Rob

Hey everyone,
My name is Rob and I have been reading ur forums for some time now,
All my life i have had frequent sleep paralysis, which most of the time I tried to stop as i thought it to be a bad experience. I've had a couple of OBE's in the past which scared the heck out of me back then, but since reading these forums have come to understand what happened.

I have tried on numerous times, since learning about Sleep paralysis being the onset of having an OBE, to project but have had some quite wierd experiences which i would like to ask you about.

Once I awoke to find myself in the paraysis, and began to hear a whispering voice of a woman. at first it was far away but then became closer, to the point that it felt like she was whispering in my ear. I tried to take control and force the voice away, but when i did the whispering began to get faster. It freaked me so much that i came out of it.
What was this?? It felt like it was a nice voice to start off with and then i became intimidated by it!

Secondly though, and this is the one i really need advice on, is sometimes i awake and feel paralysed with vibrations going through me, but then they seem to stop and concentrate at the back of my head, it will start to build up and feels like my brain is going to pop or explode and is quite uncomfortable. I usualy can stop this easily by awakening, but as soon as i close my eyes it comes back! Im worried that if i let it continue that i'll die or something. I dont feel like i have control of it!

Cheers for any info on these things, Im trying hard to induce an OBE at will, but so far these have only happened involentarily.

Thanks


Do or do not, there is no try.

Hey,
Just want you to know I had exactly the same experience. It was very real at the time and when I woke up I felt very dijointed from 'reality'

I dreamt I went to see an old school teacher at a school I never went to, then I started to remember extremely intimate details about my school life; freinds, teachers, classes I took, even where I sat in the class. Then I started to remember my parents and the town I lived in. Like you said it felt so natural and like 'that' was my real life!

Totally freaky

I have also had one UFO dreams which was so vivid that I still remeber it with great detail, even today.

I was in a high rise building looking over what seemsed to be a big city like NY at night. it was dark in the room I was in, illuminated by the city lights and I could see into the night sky clearly out of the window.

At first it was beautiful and I was taking in the view. Then suddenly something caught my eye in the sky, I thought it was a star at first and then it started to get bigger. Suddenly I remember the mood changing completely as I realised this was a UFO, and somehow knew it was coming for ME! I saw them come in low across the city as if searching for me.

I hid in the window and didnt dare look to see if they were any closer, so I waited a while to see if they would go away. After a short while i popped my head up to see if they had gone only to find them right outside the window about 30 meters above and away from the building but close enough to know they had found me!

I closed the curtains hoping somehow to block them out, crouching in the corner of the room I could hear the sound of dozens of scuttling footsteps in the dull moonlight of the room, and the fear grew more intense. I somehow knew that I had locked my door to the apartment and just sat there starring at the door.

Suddenly the footsteps stop and I see the lock on the inside of my room (lock that u slide across) slowly move accross and  open on its own. The door flew open violently and I see about 10 of those lil grey aliens standing there. They move so fast that suddenly they are all around me lifting me into the air and it like im crow surfing. They move me so fast and I know they are taking me away.

Thats where the dream ended. When I woke up It took me a while to realise where and , WHO I was as it was so real I thought i was still this guy in the apartment!

I think I should also post about a city, town which I also seem to visit alot in my dreams, which, for some reason, I know like the back of my hand... Doesnt happen very often but man is it strange! I also have been having excrement loads of dreams over the past 6-12 months of natural disaters! really bad excrement, and it always seems to be the same thing...huge tidal waves very much the same size as what can be seen in Deep inpact (NY scene) and also in the Abyss special edition... but then I guess that is another topic

Really? Well when I was there I did get the distict feeling that it was in the past, but only in the 1970's or somethin, I was born in 1980. I never really thought of past life stuff, because i never really regarded it as realistic.. but I guess it would explain a few things..

LOL maybe but how do i get up there in the first place []

I was thinkin about this in the car coming back from work, and i agree. In my mind i know that its the safest form of travel and you are more likely to die in a car accident or walking down a street than in a plane, and everything else that is so true about flying, but even when i tell myself over and over, but im still controlled by some total overwealming irrational fear. I dont need telling how safe it is because  in my head i know it!  its just this stupid irrational fear which i need to sort.

well you could always see a doctor if you are worried...

yeah i totally can relate, when I was younger, even going back to only 4-5 years ago i wasnt really weary of flying at all, but the last plane trip i went on freaked me out, i think it was mainly because of bad turbulence. this is also going to sound strange but i had a premonition about it also... but it ended on a cliffhanger so i thought i was going to die, but obviously didnt. The whole experience put me off flying again, and it seems the longer i leave it the worst i  get. Thing is I really really wan to travel but this is just driving me nuts!

Been scouring the net for free hypnosis MP3's or anything, but no luck yet.

Hi I have also experienced this. It can be quite a crazy feeling and doesnt go away quickly

for me it was like a strobing light effect all around me, affecting my vision

whats this "chakra"? and all this enery work ??
how do i do this
?

Woah, you just posted something very similar to me, I had an OBE/Projection experience that really messed me up too, check it out here:
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8260

What after effects did you have?
I felt really detatched from reality...

The only reason I said it messed me up was that I just felt like I couldnt tell what was the real world anymore. I was also shocked as to how little I cared about this life and how all my freinds family and things that are important to me were being so easily forgotten.

When I was writing the messege I could also see strange stobing and flashes in the air around me, I thought it was just the unusual effects of projecting.

The thing that made it bad also was that the more I was projecting, the more my energy seemed to be 'drained'. It makes me wonder what could have happened if I had continued to project the rest of the night...

I have always had the ability to project since I was a child, although it always happens completely involentarily. I used to be scared of it, but since i feel i am now a bit more educated on what is happening to me I always try to test how real these things are when they happen.

The thing is, I still feel that I have no control when it starts to happen, and I just cant stop projecting, over and over.

Although I DO feel in control when im out, I cant help but feel as though someone or something is coaxing me out of my body sometimes, just to leech off my energy or even try to posses my body (as stupid as it sounds).

Its put me off projecting, but obviouly it will happen again whether
I like it or not.

How can I find out why I get so drained?
And also why I was being dragged Downwards to start off?

Hey guys,
I dont know wether to discribe it as uncomfortable, only in that im affraid of what might happen if i were to let it continue...
its start where u descibed, and then builds up to the top of my head, kinda like something it going to 'pop' or dislodge itself.

I read the forums and its osund like i may not be alone in experiencing this. Has anyone completely continued with this to see what happens?

Do or do not, there is no try.