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Hello all. First time user, but needing much help here.
My rational mind is screaming at me right now that I am beginning to believe in this stuff. Quite honestly, most of my life, I'd write off my astral experiences as very lucid (redundant, I know) dreams.
But after this year, I just can't sweep it under the carpet anymore. And now I need some major help from all you kind souls out there.
First, let me say that I have never willingly had an astral projection. I have had many since I was around 8, but never instigated by myself. Instead, they have been spontanious. Recently, I have begun experimenting with different astral projection methods, but to no avail.
Last night, after 1.5 hours of meditation and Chakra method, I....fell asleep. But by around 4 a.m., I had a spontanious experience.
These experiences have freefalled in recent months: Whereas I would maybe have two or three a year, I'm now having one a week at least.
Why is that?
Another question: sometimes I truely think I'm dreaming instead of having a genuine experience. And not all have been pleasant.
For instance,  sometimes the room around me is lit in a brilliant bronze hue, like someone has a lamp on. But other times, last night in particular, the room is just as dark as it would be in the real world.
What is that about?

Also, my experiences never last more than a minute or so. I seem to not have the stamina to stay conscious in them, and find myself reverting to sleep. Last night was a rare exception. I had a string of five experiences, awaking after only a minute or so. BUT I was able to immediately instigate the vibrations once I emerged, and then again tinker with another projection.
In one of my instances, some sort of shadow was at the foot of my bed screaming at me in almost a comical voice. Scared the bejeves out of me.
Normally, I'm never able to leave my room either. Last night, I strongly willed myself into the backyard, and thought I ended up there, but I remember I seemed to hover just over the lawn, and when I looked up, I saw a brilliant night sky. But that was strange -- it was overcast all night. So, was that a dream?

I'm sorry I rambled. Acceptance is all very new to me, and I'm still skeptical. But the vividness of just launching from my body, the realism.....it just couldn't be a dream.

Any and all suggestions and sharings would be much appreciated. Either here or at my email:
cheesy80s@yahoo.com

thanks much

I never had an OBE experience that garnered any great creative work in my real ife. Heck, most of my projections haven't lasted longer than a couple of minutes anyway.
But I occasionally have lucid dreams that have spawned scripts and novellas. And I'm not referring to brief dreams; I mean epic all-nighters that have me roll-playing as some character in a story that has elaborate plot elements and all. I love those.

[Originally posted by Meg:]

Hey Meg,
I suppose what's helping me to accept the credibility of OBEs is my only recent readings on the subject. In the past month, I've read two books on astral projections, and much of what the authors' described happens in experiences mirrors my own (i.e., vibrations, bronze-hued glows in the rooms).
What I find very odd though are noises. Sometimes, my experience is completely silent. Other times, I hear popping and clicking sounds that dissapate once I exit my body.
Now, being the forever skeptic that I am, I have read that sleep paralysis (the psychological phenomenon where chemicals in the brain cut off physical reactions during dreams) has similar symptoms to an OBE, and may be confused as such. But I just can't fathom that "waking dreams" are as accurate as some of the details of things I see in my short OBEs.
Oh well, my research goes on.

quote:Originally posted by Meg:
I agree with you on that one. I've been spontaneously projecting since I was young too,  and I've also been making freakishly big strides with my OBEs the last few months (including the difficult acceptance thing!) I've gotten to the point where I know I just need to take a step back and learn how to do it properly - When I'm out, its such chaos!! I have so little control over my movement, recall etc. So I've just been taking it easy... The last few times I've woken with pre-exit symptoms, I've been concentrating on the sensations of my exit and I will just go and sit on the end of the bed for a while, try very hard not to get zapped back in, and try to focus on what is around me.  It's not as exciting as zipping up into the air or flying madly past exciting places, but I figure the astral word is not going anywhere and I do have the rest of my life (for a start) to learn how to experience it properly.

Good luck.

Meg

Meg

"...listening like the orange tree..."  - John Shaw Neilson

Thanks Fred,

I come from that generation who clearly remembers Shirley McClain's crappy TV movie about astral projection. So perhaps I expected my real OBEs to be as smooth as a motion picture, when in reality, perhaps they're disjointed and confusing. I read on here that the astral world -- again, having a hard time swallowing this -- is controlled by thoughts, and that thoughts amount to physical reality. So, perhaps until I can think clearly and control my thoughts, my projections will be disjointed.