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Exciting, exciting Owenp 185,

Congrats on your 4th ap!

Let us all know how your next experience comes along, and how you progress.

All the best,

Werp

Very True Old Dood,

Me and a couple of my friends used to think we were pretty cool for taking tramadol, vicoden, oxycotin, codein(i slaughtered the spellings, i know) quite often with each other and almost always after smoking a few joints.  The first time it was an okay experience and I had a phasing type experience, after that however, we needed more and more to feel the same, and eventually they got onto morphine and I decided that was too intense.  Later I realize, all of what I was doing was "too intense".  Anyway, there was some rambling, the main point was the first time i phased, after that I was more like a zombie 

Werp

BTW,

Does everyone know about the Our Ultimate Reality forums? 

At least, everyone under 18 

Werp

Ha. Weed. I agree with both xblimeyx and Carervnstoy.  Its GREAT and then some in moderation. I'm young, yes. But for a while just recently actually I was going through, with my friends, about a QP a week.  Not, like your run of the mill bull crap beaner infested schwa(wicsoninite term, we got rid of the G)  its more like middies.  Anyway, we'd get up, pack a bowl, then roll a jay, then a blunt, then some gravity bongs.  Anyway, smoking that much just isn't smart, when you finally do come down, you realize how beautiful life is and it can be a trip in itself if you've been high constantly for a while.  As of right now, I haven't done any drugs in..12 days. Ha, but like i said, a joint here and there, or a few bowls among friends=GREAT TIME.  The only time I've ever phased was when I was high as a kite.  But, when you get to the point where you have to smoke, you've had to much.

On the neural side of things, the only negative side effect would be that the dopamine levels of the brain are dramatically lowered.....HOWEVER, even if you were smoking, say, an oz a day, the levels return to normal after no more then a week of going without.

All the best,
Werp

HAHA...sorry this took a while to get back to...but yea definitely during class ALL THE TIME...talk about some transcending meditation right there, I pick a place, an island maybe, and then I walk around, set up a little blanket and umbrealla maybe...or possibley build a house...and before long I'm living there MILES away from school haha I love doing that

Going down on the exhale and staying in the same place on the inhale is the method that Robert Bruce describes to enter a trance in his 7 part treatise on Astral Projection.  When I first started meditating, thats all I used. 

Hmmm, actually sounds realistic.  Like if you gain enough energy you break through the plane your on and can see more of the other dimensions or other planes of existence.  If its the universe than it could still be one of the astral planes or "spheres" as some have taken to calling them.  Or it could also be like being an ascended master capable of breaking the boundaries of our universe and things such as that.  Thats just my two sense, I find the theory very creative, kudos to your subconscious! 

No problem, didn't know it was a fresh one when I posted it 

I noticed that as well when the forum link was given to me.

HAHA that MUST be it, AT&T just couldn't handle the truth!!! 


Novice, I'll definitely look into that in the upcoming months, and I'd have to agree with you on the older texts.  The new age ones seem to be more focused on selling the cook and having the publisher make money more than on the old ancient truths, or information.  Thank you for all your help.

Ahhh, its all coming together lol.  I understand that now, thank you.  And after reading the Kybalion I'll definitely research different branches of hermetic and different hermetic teachings and books as well.  Haha its interesting you said that you were throwing them out there as additional readings, because I did run up a search for the Emerald Tablet and am now looking into that as well. Much thanks.

And the confusion is now gone!

Isn't the Kybalion just a book on the teachings of Hermes??  That was my understanding, so thats why it appeared in the Emerald Table of Hermes.  The book was by "The Three Initiates," who were learning about Hermes.

Sorry that I didn't take the time to look it up, I was in a rush, THANK YOU!!!

Hey everyone,  has anyone read this book?  The Kybalion, it's said to be a book of Hermetic principles and I'm pretty sure Adrian got "As below so belove" from it.  Anyway, I downloaded it from http://www.hypnosis-kids.com/free-downloads.htm Once your on the site, scroll down until you reach Free Books.  I found it very informative even if it does use a little older language.  So, if your not to busy take a while and look through it and reply with what you think.  Also, to those of you who have read this book, what did you think of it?

HAHA Skippy, I liked that one...made me laugh.  As for me, I'm staying at 0!!! for karma, hmm might be hard.  Thats my goal anyway.

Hey what's up?  I'm Jake, and I'm 15...I've been into AP/OOBE/Meditation now since about two years ago, and used to have a name on here until the rents found out about it, ouch that was a bad one.  Had to attend counseling and go to church like EVERY DAY to meet with our pastor about how all this stuff was evil.  I've never had a oobe YET...but I will...I'm sure of it.  The one time I got closest I was lying out on my roof staring at stars, I got this feeling I was falling into them...got all light and everything went black and then my cell vibrated in my pocket  ehh oh well I'll get there.  BTW, Werp Weg Alles is Dutch and it means throw everything away.

Thanks for the reply.  That's a different way to think about it, and I hadn't thought it threw that way before.  Is it too personal to ask what the something else is?  Just curious I suppose...sorry if it is.  And if its not, what is it?

Thanks, that was what I was doing, however sometimes the "visions" become intense and I start getting dizzy which is what I meant by it makes my head spin.  I've been doing this since I was very young, of course I didn't know what it was back then, just that it was cool.  Thanks for trying to help though.

haha rofl Skippy, maybe we should all try that one!!!

lol probably not!! But I did try it this morning, and was able to recall my dream almost PERFECTLY!!! with lots of details....for this, first I was very still, and then I rolled very slowly to the different positions, I was able to remember a few pieces, and I associated key words with them.  After this I thought about the fragments, and just let the rest come to me.  THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!! From now on I'm doing this every morning if I thought I had a dream or not!

lol I know, and I really do appreciate all the help thank you.  In regards to letting you all know how it worked out with not moving and then slowly turning well, no such luck, I didn't exactly get to sleep as I was camping out at a Toys R Us for the Nintendo Wii the newest video game system.

eh, seems like I've been saying Thank you TalaNay an awful lot today haha.

hmm okay, it sounds very hard to do though, I'm not puposefully thinking about it, it just happens lol, but I'll try to just let it go.  Thank you TalaNay.

Usually I try about an hour a day, and on the contrary to headaches I feel rejuvenated and refreshed, and that makes much more sense that the first one would be achieved with one to two hours of meditation/techniques.

lol thats okay, I still had a wonderful time with it!!!!!

THANK YOU also TalaNay, I'll definitely try both those tomorrow morning or the next one.  Thanks for all the help everyone!

Hey everyone, I was wondering how exactly to tell if you've experienced hypnogogic images, or how to tell when you start them while phasing?  See, my problem is, is that while I'm trying to phase, I think that I might have had a thought.  That sounds strange lol, but I guess what I'm trying to say is that I'll have a image, and then I'll wonder, was that a hypnogogic one, and then I THINK that I had a thought, and a minute later that "thought" will be a hypnogogic image of that "thought" leaving me wondering if the "thought" was an actual thought or a hypnogogic image, and often times, just thinking this pulls me out of the images I did have.  Does anyone have any ideas on how to stop this?