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But if this is the case and there are "Astral Cops/Security" who is to say we couldn't get passed them, especially if there is only one of them? What makes this one "Astral Cop/Security" person stronger than we are? Couldn't we just Astrally chop his head off or something?

Just a thought?

HaHa, that sounds pretty cute lol.

There is nothing "paranormal" about them lol. We all have the ability, end of!

Hey, great stuff!!!

I've recently been listening to Binaural Beats on my MP3 before falling asleep at night. I haven't yet acchived my second OBE from it but its only been a few days of listening to it, but what I have noticed is I have very vivid dreams in full blown colour or I have a Lucid Dream, so it shows they do something.

Where did you get these CD's from? Can you download off the net or do you have to buy?

Keep up the good work!

***Thanks folks***

Still in hot persuit of my second OBE No luck yet, but I'm on the case lol.

Can't wait to hear it Exclip Keep us all posted!

Well congratulations on your first (You'll be saying that to me  eventually) , and yeah I've read about how APs are differnt from Lucid Dreams (I'm a Lucid Dreamer myself). I've had Lucid-Dream Out of Body experience, dreaming bout how i got out of my body in a dream, and i've heard you can induce OBE's with Lucid Dreams, how do you do that?

Hey thanks! I look forward to saying it to you, keep us posted....

I think when you're Lucid to just basically will yourself into the Astral or OOB. I'm not sure though, best ask someone who is more experienced. I'm sure that's what I've been told though, just will yourself and go with the flow.

Good Luck!

So you guys have a built-in reality detector that allows you to tell whether an experience was a lucid dream or an OBE without making any validations upon waking?

You know, a lucid dream can feel as real as waking reality, and an OBE can be as muddy as a "regular" dream. What you should look for when you want to classify the experience is not how real it felt, but rather the whole induction process. If you distinctly felt the shift to the "second body" and then felt vibrations, then felt this sudden "rush" of energy or heard a roar, and then started floating up in your room and went through walls... Well, indeed I would call that a "real OBE" ; but it's not that anything else is not "genuine" -- it's just not possible to know what happened.

Can't get no realer than this -

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_experiences/i_did_it_last_night_way_hey-t25397.0.html

It's my story of my first OBE (inc's, vibrations, floating, buzzing, etc,etc,etc *wink* *wink*).

Aww, thank you hun!!! That's much appreciated. You're a star!!!

Yes, that sounds about right actually. Thanks for the insight!

Hey,

I've just tried to download this file but its expired *sad face* lol. Would anyone be kind enough to send me the file? It would be much appreciated! If so, PM me and I'll send you my email addy.

Thanks!

I've just had my first OBE and it was totally different to any Lucid Dreams I've had, totally! It felt so real (just like our real, physical life), not like any kind of dream, Lucid Dream.

Most people find it easier to project if they wake-up in the middle of the night by setting an alarm to wake them, then trying to project as their body falls back to sleep. This is how I did it and it came very natural. Unlike when I try to project from meditation in bed at night before I go to sleep, I haven't had any success yet on this front, but many people do.

Sounds like an awsome OBE!!!

I wonder why things seem a bit blurry in the Astral and not crystal clear all the time?

I have been astral traveling since I was 3. Thats only 32 years. I think all of us are new here. Each time you can learn something. What's 32 years in the drop of eternity?

Sorry if I'm wrong but I read this from you " have never done this before that I can remember anyways." So I thought you were new to Astral Travel, obviously not then.
Still sounds a little far fetched but who knows what others do in the Astral, I've heard some facinating stories before all from experienced Astral Travellers. The thing that threw me from you was the "chosen one" speach -  "The Guardians of the Astral enforce order. Jobs are giving to different entities to help enforce that order. The rap sheet of this person was giving to me in my mind. My guide took me there." I've never heard before that "The Guardians of the Astral enforce order and give certian jobs to different entities to help enforce order." Can any experienced travellers tell me if they've heard of this before or if they've ever been asigned do a similar job for them? Thanks!

Wow, OBE's while taking public transport, how cool. I'm just getting started with having my first OBE in my own home, in my own bed, I can't wait until I'm that experienced where I can AP while on a bus or train

Great Stuff!!!

Energy cannot be destroyed as already been stated, it is, it has been and it always will be!!!

No offence to you at all but this does seem very far fetched, I could take it in more if a really experienced Astral Traveller had said it, but for a newbie to this kinda thing such as you I really find it hard to believe (especially the "chosen one" kinda act)...

If it is true, good for you, but if not, please don't lie it's not attractive.

Congrats to you!!! I've also recently had my first OBE experience, I didn't manage to get out of my bedroom like you did but it was still amazing. Sounds like a great OBE for your first one, especially since you took a good luck at your body without getting pulled back like most do when seeing their physical body, that's awsome, as must of been flying out of your window, woweeeeeeeeee!!!

That's what I loved the most about my OBE, the feeling of realness, no mistaking for a dream or Lucid dream, this was real life s**t lol but on a totally different level. It is like being superhuman.

Well done to you!

Thanks for the very helpful replies guys, and sorry I wasn't here sooner to reply! I've been mega busy of late and very tired from trying to project again every night since, it's hasn't got easier as you've already said Spawn-Xe, seems even harder but I'm a very determind person and very stuborn (Taurus the Bull) mwah ha ha ha ha, so when I want to do something I will do it (however long it bloody takes me lol).
I will take everything you guys have said into account for my next journey (if I have one *starts to cry*) and hopefully my journey will be a longer one now I know what to do to stay more calm and to keep OOB longer.

Happy Travels and Blessings!

Kristy

OMG, I did it, I had an OBE last night! AT LAST, 6 months or trying and a few days of being a member here and I got out

I can't quite contain myself today, I want to tell someone (everyone) but they'll think I'm mad so you guys are the ones that are gonna have to listen to my "story" lol, if you would, puuurrrrlllleeeaaasssseee! Here's how I did it and what happened ~

Ok, so the meditation techniques to try and get out haven't been working, I can reach the vibrational state easily, I get the vibrations, tingling, heat and tunnel like vision, start to see bright white and purple shapes and swirls, all that stuff you have normally before an OBE, but I can never actually get "out".

Anyway, I woke up around 5am this morning and felt myself dropping back off to sleep near on straight away so I started to think about having an OBE, I kept on telling myself "You will go out of body, you will", I started to imagine a huge black tunnel with me travelling up it as I dropped back off to sleep, still telling myself to go out of body, the next thing I know I get the vibrations (but stronger than ever before), I told myself to stay calm "Don't ruin it now Kristy, go with it, go with it", from what I remember I felt a pulling sensation on my forehead and then I was swirling up this black tunnel faster than ever, the next thing I know I'm floating (on my back, stomach upwards to the celing) I'm in my bedroom it's really dark, in fact I could hardly see anything, I managed to get myself upright as if I'm standing up (but still floating, feet off ground) and then it hit me, "excrement, excrement, excrement I'm OOB" soooooo many thoughts went through my head at this point, I was trying to remember what to do, how to get clarity, how not to wake-up, so many thing's going through my head it was unreal. Then I went over to my mirror in my room, I had an overwhelming feeling to do this, I knew I was OOB and floating in my room and I wanted to see myself in my mirror, I couldn't see myself, it was too dark, then I thought "My body on the bed, look round and see your body Kristy" I turned round to look at myself on the bed and instantly I was pulled back to my body as if I was on a bungee rope lol, it was that fast! I didn't see my body, all I saw was like a grey mist or aura lying on the bed and before I knew it I was back in my body - WOW, WOW AND F*****G WOW, I DID IT!!! I'm so excited right now, it's crazy lol. I didn't really feel a "bang" though when my astral body went back into my physical body, I'm surprised as I got pulled back at quite some speed.
I went back to sleep after half an hour or so of nearly peeing myself with excitement at what had just happened, and went straight into a Lucid Dream (I haven't had a Lucid 'from what I know' in ages) this was like a double whammy lol, my first OBE and then Lucid straight after. I knew this was my chance to get out again but it didn't happen. I was in this strange arena like place with all these people standing on the edges of this arena really high-up (like they could fall off the ledge any minuet). I didn't really like this place, it felt strange and was scaring me a little. I was flying and I flew up to this guy who was a white gay man but dressed like a black Hip-Hop star  It was very strange! At this point I kept saying "OOB NOW" but nothing happened, I thought I would end-up back in my room but I didn't. Then I started to spin myself while still flying off the ground (I'd heard this would get you to where you wanted to be) but as I span myself I got worried because it felt so real, like I was actually spinning around in my bed, I kept thinking "excrement, I'm gonna wake everyone up if I keep spinning like this", it actually felt like I'd took hold of my bed covers so I could spin myself around, it was so real, and then I can't remember anything else, I must of gone into a normal dream or something.

A couple of quick questions -

Because it was around 5am when I projected in my room it was dark, is there anyway of making it light in my room when I next project or does it stay dark. I can remember thinking clarity all the time but when I was OOB in my room it was just as it would be in real life at that time in the morning - dark. When I was in the Lucid Dream there were more colours n I could see quite well (a little cloudy though).

How can I stay OOB longer without getting pulled back on the bungee rope to my body lol?

Should I of seen my own body as if it looks in real life?

How can I clear my mind while OOB or in a Lucid Dream so I'm not asking myself to do all these thing's at once i.e. clarity now, OOB now, spin now, etc, etc. I think this is what ruined my Lucid Dream, I was wanting to do so much in it, especially get out of body again.

Does the spinning technique actually work to take you to another place in the Astral? It felt like I was actually spinning at top speed in my bed and I got worried I would wake others in my house up with all the noise from it?

I have so many more questions but they keep coming and going as I can't think straight today, I'm far too excited lol. If I think of any others I'll post them later.....

I think the best way for a newbie to have an OBE is to wake-up in the middle of the night and tell yourself to go OOB when you're dropping back off to sleep. Also imagining a tunnel and travelling up it works well. Doing it in the middle of the night is a lot more effective (for me anyway) than doing this from meditating.

Thanks guys, your help on the questions would be much appreciated!

Blessings!

Wow, that is AWSOME!!! Way ta go.....I can't wait to have my first one, I'm so close yet so far. I'll get there soon *prays hard* lol.