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Whoa  thats a real inspiration for me to keep trying haha! Congrats!

I guess you cant really, as a lucid dreamer ur taught that pratically anything unexplained in ur experience is just created by your head adn subconscious. But theres some paranormal about OBE rite? I been trying to do Trance exercises and now its giving me a sleep disorder, cant sleep realli well lately, cant fall asleep somethings wrong 

Yeah personally I've tried it, got pretty knocked out. So what should I do to make further progress in AP'ing? Any suggestions? -AP experts please help 

Whoa i didnt even know that was possible 

So it is possible to Astral Project when your lucid dreaming, right? By shutting yourself off from your dream and waking up knowing your body's still still asleep. I better start doing that if Im ever gonna AP.

Yeah but do u mean they're realli similiar?

Well congratulations on your first (You'll be saying that to me  eventually) , and yeah I've read about how APs are differnt from Lucid Dreams (I'm a Lucid Dreamer myself). I've had Lucid-Dream Out of Body experience, dreaming bout how i got out of my body in a dream, and i've heard you can induce OBE's with Lucid Dreams, how do you do that?

Yeah that kinda makes sense, self inflicting damage. And i have a friend who Lucid Dreams , i told him about Astral Projection and he says that OBE and AP they're all dreams, whereas the person dreams that hes out of his body. But yeh they're seperate things. I've tried conscious astral projection , i''d normally get to the Vibrational stage and then everything fades and nothing happens , dont know what to do, just wondering how long does it take to master conscious ap?

Wow. . . haha i didnt know electronics affects people when they AP, thanks! But Hey- if u need 4- 5 hours of sleep before you AP- wouldnt that be like Lucid Dreaming?

Yeah thats my question, do you normally need sleep before you AP or is it something that you can do when ur about to go to bed? (>are Rem periods Involved?)