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Hi,
Despite all techniques offered in lots of literature I still find little info on what to do when your body is asleep and the mind is still awake. Suppose I use the rope technique at the moment my body sleeps how long do I need to do this? It seems forever and then still nothing happens. At the end I decide to stop because I'm getting bored.. I once OBE'd but this happened when I continued using several visualisation techniques when I finally dozed off. I came in a dream where I still kept trying to OBE and only in that state it worked. This was the only OBE that I ever had which really was great but since I started doing it in a dream i still keep wondering if it was an OBE or a very very vivid dream where I had full control and awareness.
So I'm wondering what kind of state one should be to get to the fibrational states etc. Is it that you should continue to visualize yourself out of body (or something similar) and wait until you start falling almost asleep and THEN 'hope' you'll OBE? Robert's split mind theory
should then suggest that when you want to copy you're consiousness or awareness or.. into the astral body you physical body needs to be asleep or very close to it. Has anybody pratical info on this?

Hi Upstream,
Thanks for the advice. I'll try your suggestion.

I went to the page described and found a very very interesting and intriguing sentence made by the inventor himself. After reading this I concluded that buying a time machine which can give pleasure only up to 2013 because after this time all will be the same. Why would anybody buy it then? Shooting in your own foot?
So anybody who buys this stuff. Please focus up to 2020 and have fun..

I quote:
Steven Gibbs: When they sent some scientists from the Montauk Project into Earth's future they hit a barrier in the year 2012. When they tried to go past the barrier from 2012 to 2013 they couldn't go through the barrier, they could only go around it. But after they went around it they found that all life on this planet had been wiped out...everything. Cities were all in ruins and there was no life found anywhere...at least they couldn't find any. They concluded that everything had been wiped-out.

Hi, I noticed the discussion on NDE and the research done by van Lommel here in the Netherlands. You can download the whole report with findings etc at :
http://profezie3m.altervista.org/archivio/TheLancet_NDE.htm#results
Kind regards,
Laurent