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Once again I have to thank Robert for the wonderful book I picked up. I am up to page 367 and man, I will have to write him a personal letter one day soon as there are so many things he writes about that I have experienced first hand that I have to digest and contemplate over now. I wrote it off as fanciful events in the past, now I am seeing a more definate pattern I want to explore further.

With that said, I have had waking lucid dreaming while at work or in public places like on a bus or such. Sometimes I have startled myself when 'snapping to' for I didn't realize I was going out so far into the dream.
The most odd coincidental one was one that occurred on Sept 10th, 2001.
You probably know where this is going...

I was sitting at my desk at work. I work for the largest phone company in the tri-state area. It was 1:30 pm. I have always had the habit of zoning out into a trance, (I think the book says this is a bad thing?), and coming up with some wild scenarios. Every now and then the zoning would easily becoming daydream and then finally lucid, with sound and smell, etc. On this day I found myself sitting on train going from Newark into NYC. It was real, could feel the motion of the train etc. As we were going into the city, this guy asks me, "Want to see something neat?" as he opens a laptop on his lap. I reply to him, "Sure, whatdya got?" He proceeds to pull out a cellphone with an antennae as well and says, "With this I can control any plane in the sky..."
I begin to laugh and say, "Oh really?" and he smiles and laughingly says, "Oh yes, it's very simple...I show you." And the next thing I know, and reality distorts here for if you've ever taken the train or path into the city to Penn station, you know it goes underground, I see a plane heading for NYC. Then I project from the train to the city street about 10 blocks from the World Trade Center and witness a 747 or whatever crash into it.

Now, whether you believe me or not, I couldn't care less. The fact is it happened in real life unfortunately and I do have a witness to my statement above. He was sitting in front of me and as I was having this Lucid episode, at the EXACT moment that I saw the plane crashing into the building, he made a whistling noise that had a double whistle to it and the pitch and rise was the sound that you hear when a plane (decelerate?) for landing. The rising, high pitch sound. I jumped in my seat, literally, and the girl next to me said, "ARE YOU OK? What'd you see now?" (She knew about other events similar to this and more). I told her that I had a very weird daydream and startled myself. I then went to the desk ahead of me and said to him, "Hey Ron, what made you whistle like that? How'd you do that?" He laughed and said when he was a kid, he was always whistling, and got good when he went to ballgames and such. I asked how he double whistled and he did it again and I tapped him on the arm and said, "Dude, you scared the crap out of me, I was imagining a plane crashing over NYC and you made that sound at the same time...it made it SO REAL!" He laughed and said, "Sorry, thought you were working, not daydreaming..." and we laughed it off.

Until the next day... We watched in horror the entire day on multiple big screen televisions. Our work center looks like Nasa actually, exactly like you see on TV. Called a N.O.C. (Network Operation Center) that survails many states at once. As we were watching he comes up to me and says, "Remember what you told me?" and I said, "Unfortunately I do..."

Had to share this one because it was that real. However, the experience of thinking about and then seeing or hearing something I was thinking about the same or very next day is not uncommon to me. I get it on a regular basis when I take a long meditative shower in the morning. That's more precog however.

Thanks for letting me share...

Oahn

What works for people here in terms of the time of day you have the most successful OOBE? And location as well, (what area of home, floor/bed/chair, and facing direction N/S/E/W)?

I know for that magnetic North allows me to sleep better when my head is in that direction. East produces more vivid dreams. And taking a long shower or in bathroom where there is water gives me precog of daily or next day events. The mountains in Vermont also do my body and soul much good, feel rejuvenated after visiting...

Thank you all,
Oahn

Hello again...

I know we all have had many experiences, some we share commonality on, others truly unique. And because they are experiential in nature, (only to the experiencer), the emotion, passion and scope of their explaination and defintion lose a bit in the retelling of such. I know I have left out alot of details on several experiences so far because as you all know, these episodes or events we are taking part in are so much more grand and beyond simply defintion in their complexity. However, I was wondering if there were any marked changes that have every been noted by yourself or others. Moreso, have any of you ever had recorded evidence of such events? I give you the following examples:

Whenever I am connected to the higher energies, specifically when I feel connected with someone or become under the influence of 'inspiriational speaking' my pupils go fully dialated regardless of light level in the room. When this occurs, I find people staring more intently and focused on what I am saying, but now knowing why they are staring at me so. One woman was not so transfixed and noted the change at work while conversing with me late this week. She specifically stated, "Wow, what is going on with your eyes? The pupils are huge!" I know what causes this and will not elaborate at this time, but for those who do experience this, do you know why as well? We can discuss further if the topic leads in that direction.

Second, I might have access to some records which will prove insightful as to the altering of brainwaves in the different states one can attain when shifting their consciousness. Again, without further exposing myself here, I might be able to obtain a set of EEG's that were performed on me where the tester noted, "This can't be right?" to which I asked, "What can't?" He mumbled, "This thing is showing extremely high levels of Delta waves but you are awake and talking with me..." as he played with some dials and buttons. I don't know how long doctor's offices and hospitals hold such records, but I have a friend in that area now who would have access if I did not have disclosure rights. If so, I will scan them and post results to the gallery area.

Finally, have you ever caused the room to shift focus or energy level and brought others into your space as well? Best way I can explain it is like this:
You know the way you just KNOW what day it is? Or what time it is for that matter? Like when it simply FEELS like a Tuesday or FEELS like 10 PM? OK, sometimes you can be in an energetic state where you bring others into that state by being around you, where the room actually feels different at that moment, or that occupied space and area you are in, and it's the others that you are with that make note of it? I have had this on occasion as well.

What I am getting at is...have you seen the movie 'Altered States'? If not, see it. There is a scene at the end that was created by the group A-HA for the video take on me. Without giving away the ending for those who haven't seen it, what I saw in that scene makes me wonder if we somehow do the same by inducing or practicing the things we do, (OOBE's, Astral Travel, etc.) Can we cause some physical manifestations and changes, to ourselves and others, from developing so well internally? Scientists studying the phenomena or those looking to collect Mr. Randi's money would love to prove so anyway. Have we been looking at it hard enough at ourselves once awake? I think just as we tend to 'forget' our experiences because we are lazy in the remembering process sometimes, perhaps we are equally undiscplined in taking note of the subtle things in our awake state? I am not going to start on some namby-pamby eastern philosophy about this life place beng an illusion, but I will say that there is more to it than we are attuned too. Hell, there are so many electronic signals bouncing around us in this age of technology, what's one more brainwave, psychic wave or any other worth tapping into?

And why am I preaching that we HAVE to be more aware? Organic foods, the hydrogen atom, DNA...what do these things have in common? Things man has unfortunately found ways to exploit through unnatural means. If we don't learn about our natural gifts and use them the way the (universe?) intended, then we are quite possibly doomed. The military has already done much experimentation on Remote viewing. With things like HAARP in effect, what's to stop them from broadcasting something that would keep us in an Alpha state more regularly, heck, television does.

Oahn

Hello again...

I dont' know if the topic has been addressed, but about the importance of the spoken word, (before,during,after) any kind of 'travel'. More than just an affirmation or mantra or whatever, the correct combination of words can have VERY SERIOUS consequence and results. If you've never really considered the power in the spoken word, try telling your boss F*** Y** tommorrow at work, or yell a racial slur as loud as you can in a public crowd of diverse ethnic mix. And when you do this, make sure you do it WITHOUT INTENT, that is, make sure it is the words that you have spoken, not the emotion, or inflection in your voice or attitude that is causing the response in others.

***I AM KIDDING! DO NOT DO THIS!***  Those who would be offended by doing such a thing would react to the words you yell out, they would be doing so without knowing YOU the person who spoke them. They might not understand that you are conducting an experiment, or that I told you to go out and do it. The point I am making is exactly this:

Sometimes we might speak certain words while daydreaming or in a trance state. We might even place our hands on particular parts of our body without even realizing that we might be trying to affect our energetic bodies and not merely taking a different body posture. Whenever you speak, do so consciously, with full intent. You might find the affects to be quite more impactful. I share this thought with you because on several occasions I have uttered words aloud, at the audible level like when you are talking to yourself, and the results afterwords were not what I expected. One incident occurred when I stated right before bed, "If you want me, come and get me!" I don't know why I said this aloud, something compelled to me to say it. That evening, I had an OOBE into the astral plane. How do I know it wasn't simply a dream? Dreams are never so lucid. This dream is etched in my mind to this day. In short, I had a fight with looked to be myself. However, this self was laughing and had a dark, omninous presence about him. Perhaps it was my shadow self? That side of us all that we can never kill off.

Not convinced yet? One other question to ponder. What happens when someone calls your name and the voice is thrown in your specific direction? Unless it is your nagging wife or annoying husband, there's a 99.9% chance you are going to look up and see who's calling you. The exact moment you acknowledge the call, it is already too late. That person has exercised their power over you, even if it is just to get your attention. And isn't that enough? Isn't your mind's focus the whole trip anyway? Perhaps that is why we could never possibly know the true name of God? Who are we to have command over such a being?

And there are always those most beautiful words uttered from the purest of souls, that of a child..."Mommy", "Daddy"," I love you..."
Speak your intent, your soul and the universe is listening : )

Namaste,
Oahn

Yet another question? Sorry guys and gals, I have alot of questions as this is a new arena for me... : (

3 weeks ago I had a VERY lucid dream that was a bit unnerving to me. I wish to restate, until this past weekend, I have not been actively practicing nor desiring to learn about OOBE's routinely. I think it has been the universe at work that has been pushing me this way for some time and now I am finally getting around to acting on it.
In this lucid dream, I was in an exact copy of my home where my wife and I live now. I was being led down the hallway by these two smaller beings that wanted me to follow them. One was actually holding my right hand and push/pulling me down the hall, the other was near the top of the stairs waiting to help me down the stairs. I remember a feeling of apprehension and anger as I could not wake my wife and ask for her help against these 'little beings' Instead I used what my mind would think logically. Our bathroom is situated in the hall between our bedroom and stairway. As this being was on my right, I deliberately turned left and pulled away hard and said, "I have to pee..." and shut the door. The being looked at the other being down the hall as if, "What the ****?!" and I am now in my bathroom actually going pee. I opened the door and avoided eye contact with the little dude standing in front of me and turned right, back towards the bedroom and this time with more determination and not so lethargic as when I was being led out. The little guy pulled on me but I outweighed and outpowerd him and climbed back into bed near my wife. Ok, first part of experience. Second part. I hear yelling down the same hall, "GET OUT, GET OUT, GET OUT!" Sounded like a war was going on outside the front of our home. I was able to wake my wife this time and pulled on her to follow me down the hall, past the stairs and to the guest bedroom. As I looked out the front window, I saw what looked like SWAT teams kicking down the front door of the house and gaining entry to the downstairs. I told her, "Hold on!" as I opened the windown climbed out and told her to hold on to me as we climbed down. (I somehow created a ladder or something as we do not have proper exit ladder to get out in case of a fire in real life, I should probably get one). We got away from the home and heard all of this gunfire and yelling in the home and what sounded like some serious A**kicking on some people? The swat team came to the door, the first 2 guys carrying out something that looked like a bomb can, (big metal garbage can looking thing) and the other 4 dudes standing in the doorway with these big smirks on their faces, smiling at my wife and I. I looked them in the eyes and they were not the rough and tumble characters you see in most swat movies, no, these dudes looked more like the Angels you see singing in choirs, good looking, broad-shouldered look and something all too peaceful about their auras to be tough-guys. At that moment, something inside me know what just occurred and I remember hugging the one dude and saying, "Thank you, I know why you are here and I thank you for coming..." For you see, I believe now that they were perhaps guardians of sorts coming to take care of those 'little dudes' that were trying to lead me out earlier. Something I utter aloud in my home at many times to whoever might be listening is that, "If you are here of peaceful intent and love, then by all means, you are truly welcome..." And I mean it. I am the type of guy to give strangers a free meal. Just my nature.
SO! Being that this happened only 3 weeks ago and was a very powerful dream, enough to remember and wake with a "phew!, I'm tired" feeling, is it possible that this might have occurred on some OOBE level as well?
My thinking is that perhaps the universe had it in store for me to be delving into this at this time and these events were the natural course of awakening for me? Your feedback would be greatly appreciated as I am sure there is much I am missing or misinterpreting? Thanks again...

Oahn

Question to those who are experienced with this...
I have never been successful at having an OOBE as outlined by Bruce or Monroe or other techniques written. Perhaps because I fit the catagory of being very visually oriented I have the bad habit of expectation and my mind takes over with imagination before the OOBE can occur?
However, as I stated on another post, I wonder how many of the other 'journeys' I've taken in the dream state or through guided imagery might have been OOBE that was taking place in the Astral or other realms. As I am reading more and more of Astral Dynamics I am finding answers to the phenomena I have been experiencing all of these years with my now being able to better understand the fuller context of those events.
On this one occasion when I was doing a guided imagery session with a practioner, at some point my body went very deep in trance and felt as if I was lifting above the earth and accelerating beyond the planets and stars, beyond all known universes until all of it looked like a pinpoint of light at what I perceived to be the 'known center' of the universe. As I was accelerating away, (there was no visual point of reference other than the pin point of light that I was accelerating away from in the total darkness), I passed what appeared to be a (Native American Shaman?) who waved to me and who was also venturing out to wherever my soul was accelerating to. Finally I got to the end of my journey. I hit what felt to be a wall, however, it was more like a membrane, kinda like spiderwebs and jello? I concentrated on piercing it with my body to see what was beyond it and THIS is what stuck with me the strongest and actually changed my entire paradigm about the universe we are in. As I looked beyond the dark membrane of what was our universe's boundary. I saw many, many other universes which looked liked black orbs floating in what was some kind of cotton candy colored space with rays of gold and other light pulses flashing and shooting around, and floating in between the orbs where these colorful matrixes? and geometrical designs which I understood as to having intelligence to them? Some of these orb looked to be more transparent than other in that you could see that all seem to have the same center point of light eminating from their centers and some had more light filling their inner space than others. What was imparted to me while viewing all of this was that whatever created this place, (the universe), was merely making more of itself and the light that these 'universes' produced where the product of evolution and beings, much like ourselves, raising their vibrations, multiplying and creating more mass and being to their own universes. What I was seeing then was a macrocosmic view of the insides of God's being perhaps much the way the little scientists did in that movie where they were shrunk down and went into a human body? This place outside our universe was about light and vibration and geometry and stuff my mind could not understand, but it had life force energy to it, if that makes any sense?
The reason I am sharing this with you all is because the way I came back to my body was so fast and sudden, as if I was attached to the physical person lying there during the session and further, I was relating this experience to the practioner while it was unfolding. During this time, I could actually feel that my mind/focus was consciously in two places at the same time. In reading up on the topic of OOBE's, I am now discovering that this is not all too uncommon.
So, the question then is could this have been an OOBE? By that, I am not saying that this experience is truly how it is, but merely how my mind interpreted it. Thank you for any feedback on this...

Oahn

I first want to thank Robert Bruce for writing Astral Dynamics. Although I picked up Robert Monroe's works earlier in 1991-1993, I never made the connection fully to the OOBE's. I always wanted to experience them as described by others but never realized that I was already having them.
For years I've struggled with spiritual phenomena, the biggest event occurring when I had a full Kundalini Awakening in 1995. Up until that event, I was more amazed or enticed by the phenomena in the psychic/paranormal and other esoteric studies. I had, up until that time, many experiences with 'other worldly' things, including various aspects of divination and foretelling of things to come. Because the Kundalini experience was SO incredible, and lasted over a 5 month period, I was pretty much burned out when I finally came down from it and basically crashed back into a life of normallacy. I threw away alot of my old things, packed away my books on any of this stuff and tried to live a quote, "normal" life. I got a great paying job, got married to a VERY normal, conservative girl, heck, I even tried going back to a normal church on sundays with her. As much as I tried to be 'normal' from time to time I would still get 'insights', still have the lucid dreams, still say things to people without foreknowledge and leave them a bit startled, and still feel presences in the home and elsewhere.
So this past year I've gone back to letting my mind settle and doing some meditatation and prayer. Something led me to find the book Astral Dynamics and well, now the phenomena is back in full force. Things I have been reading in the book so far, (i've only made it to page 120 in the past 3 days I've bought it), have triggered something in me that's been dormant these many years. What really upset me however was chapter 5 on Waking Paralysis. I use to ask my school mates and others if they had ever had this growing up. Even one of my mentors, who teaches Reiki, was a keynote speaker for the Cayce Foundation and has done many years of Shamanistic work never had them. My wife as well, sleeps the entire night through. When I read this chapter, memories came flooding back into my mind. What I thought was normal all these years, having VERY LUCID dreams and dialog with people, sometimes the deceased, flying out over the neighborhoods or going ot friends' homes and waking them up to 'play', DAMN IT, I never knew this might have been OOBEs? I use to have those darn Waking Paralysis episodes so frequent, I use to have a fear of falling asleep on my back and even now, sleep on my stomach each night. And with waking up, on average, I will wake up about 2-3 times a night, and I wait, and try to remember my dreams. I have done this since about the age of 16. I actually looked forward to dreaming each night because it was so fanciful and fun. However, there were other repeating patterns that didn't make sense until now. Like the falling into the bed from above, (like those old Lipton ice tea commercials). Sometimes it would feel as if the bed was moving. Or what I call, Location shifting, where the room would feel as if it shifted 90 degrees or actually spun back into place. Other phenomena was seeing the stars through the ceiling and I lived in the apex of the home with ceilings that formed a point oddly enough. It seemed that when I have consciously tried to get out of my body while I am awake, it always failed, whenever I would daydream or go to bed at night, blammo, up and out I would go. This I have to read more about however and look forward to making it to the final chapters that go into techniques. And on one final note, in speaking with my mom recently and sharing with her this wonderful thing I've discovered, Robert's book, she told me something I never knew before. She, out of all the people I would NEVER guess, use to have waking paralysis as a child through teens as well. She was also always interested in the paranormal and stuff like this, but never did because she thought it was against her catholic upbringing. So perhaps that's where I get it from? There is much, much more than this and I hope to post in the future as well. Oh, one other thing. For Robert if he should read this per chance. I have had a phenomena occur where I was somewhere, an event, or meditation circle or such, and later on when I would sit and recall it to memory, I would see other things that I didn't see with my physcial eyes when the event accually took place. In going back to those persons and relating what 'extra' things or people I saw in the recall, they usually confirm in the positive that I was in fact 'seeing' or picking up on guides, or such that they knew of beforehand. Has anyone else ever had this happen?

Thanks again for all of your support or criticisms...
"Your friends will smile at you and tell you good things, your enemies point out things you might not want to hear about yourself; who truly helps you to become a better person in the end?"
Oahn

Okay, last defense here...

I know you might be skeptical about the claims made on the sight, or the testimonials themselves. Well, I have to tell you this...

I actually called the people who supposed made those claims in those testimonials. I called information and asked for their names by the cities they listed. Lo and behold, I was able to speak to 4 people about the program, if it was legit and if it worked. One guy was and still is, a blind bodybuilder, and we talked for over an hour on the subject of weighlifting as well.
I was really hestitant before buying this guy's manual, but I am SO happy I did. Again, the only othe  book that I could recommend on the subject is by Bill Pearl, Getting Stronger. He's a vegetarian bodybuilder who understands the sport better than anyone. And I would not be surprised if Francesco from MuscleNow got some of these concepts from him as well.

$100 is a laughable amount when you list all the things you probably waste your money on anyway. Think in terms of dollar to use ratio and the book is worth $1,000 easily...

Good luck with your workouts...
Oahn

Hey everyone...

Meg, that is an excellent question and one I have as a focus in helping me function and a part of my 'modus operandi' and how I work though this life.

It's a several fold question however, because it really is hinged on whether or not you accept that past lives are real events and the term 'soul' being applied here would define our true self, or the data disk, or true self or whatever you want to define it as which is capable of operating, having experiences and expressing itself on many different levels.

I make a joke quite often whenever there is a good discussion in a room full of people when too many nod in agreement with what I am saying. I make it a point to state, "When I get done with this current life, should I ever come to know ALL there is to know, in the end, I will still only be half right..." It's really implied and directed towards women, because I truly feel that because I am experiencing through a male perspective, I also believe the energies chanelled, the way I think and equally viewed by others and also the ability to create life is exclusively from the male perspective. Although I have tested for a high EQ (emotional quotient) and SQ (spiritual quotient) and IQ, they are merely aspects of self and not the sum of the whole being.

With this stated, let me answer you question more directly. YES, I have quite certainly witnessed the evolution of my being, but moreso, have reverted back those persons and aspects of self on multiple ocassions. More specifically, I have always felt the connection with Scotland and love the sound of those bagpipes and the food they eat, Central & SouthEastern Africa (I believe I was black african many years ago). Egyptian (pre-pyramid construction, actually, they were beginning construction of pyramids as I remember, and it led me to connect with reflexology and practice it again).
I believe I was a monk as I had a VERY vivid recall experience of where I was donning a brown robe and was in a grotto or garden and was waved on by a fellow brother to come and see what he had in his posession. It was rather important as it was conveyed to me as being a 'secret' document. But there was that duality again of my being me from now, with that person then from that period, and I got the impression that even if someone did see the parchment we were reading, they could not, because people could not read back in that period. (It felt like 1200-1300AD?).
I connected with the Native Americans of this land from what would have been 1300-1400 AD time frame. I wrote a wonderful story about it and will share it here next time I write on this post again. It is 12:29AM and I am quite tired tonight, so I will say what I can in this post.

There was also a connection to Nazi germany, sadly. Now this one was a total blow to my ego and really freaked me out later on when someone I had met through a meditation circle freaked me out in talking with her over the phone. I connected again, with myself in the past. It was (1943?) and I was there, watching people line up. They had stars and triangles and other markings as they were being round up and counted. I remember thinking, I have a wife and 2 children, this is my duty. I have rank and a future if I do this thing. This REALLY explained alot about my obsession in playing video games where you got to kill Nazis. I could spend hours playing Castle Wolfenstein and I enjoyed it immensly. Speaking of video games real quick if I might add to this. For some reason, I am very sympethetic to chinese and asians in video games when they are depicted as the enemy. When I see Nazis, no remorse, I kill them no problem. I think because in my gut I feel that the chinese, japanese and vietnamese are good people who have been rooked all their existance, but I don't know why I fell this way. I have to explore it someday as well.

How have these persons shaped me as the person I am now. For one thing, I am very friendly towards strangers and take a genuine interest in when foreigners take the time to share about their home country and culture. Sometimes I feel homesick, I don't know why or for where, I just know I do and that this life has been THE MOST DIFFICULT for me to complete. There is TOO much available to us at this period in time and unfortunately, one cannot pursue the spiritual and simple way of life in this ever advancing technological world., so...

I have to go, sorry if I am not making sense, but my head is spinning and I have to get some sleep...

Be well all...will make more sense next time, I promise!!!
Oahn

Hello again...

Let me restate again...when I've had past life experiences, (seven to date), they were definately from the past in terms of physical, earth, solar time where the clock hands move clockwise and the calender runs Sunday thru Saturday and January thru December. I have had 3 FUTURE experiences, 1 in which I felt that I was a spirit or ghost and 2 others where I was still in corporeal form, all experiences had that duality of mind I mentioned previously where I was recognizing the being whose eyes I was seeing out of as being me, but at the same time being me from this period as the experiencer. The future ones were both fascinating and grim however, and I don't really think the scenarios were based upon any media or hollywood influence as well as sci-fi or other ideas about an apocolyptic future. Unfortunately, in each of the future scenarios, the earth was in some form of distress, (natural devestation = wicked flood and nuclear accident in one) and one from what felt to be 2280 AD where I was above the earth piloting what felt to be a jet fighter type (only in terms of design, not for military use) vehicle which was flying above the earth. Each one of these events were also incredibly lucid, but again, the time frame and more importantly, in the thinking of the individual whom I was experiencing through, I was able to 'think' about the past, which then gave me an idea that the past to this person was still 150-200 years ahead of our own time now.

The best way I can explain this to you all is that for me, the person I am now in this time 2002, recalls history as being (1st) 1972-present (my life span) followed by (2nd) the time frame of my immediate family and grandparents as well as (3rd) the history of the world back to late 1800's. Everything else is pretty much irrelevant before than, or rather, there is little I can relate to as my own ancestors were not even here in America prior to 1910 so... (I hope this makes sense in establishing a pattern recognition to the history of time).

With all this stated, I am looking at the clock and it is 3 minutes til I leave work. I can tell you of when I was in India, Africa, Germany from my past, or either of the 3 future events in detail if you wish...please let me know if interested.
Have to go...

Namaste,
Oahn

Fredhedd,

You make a good point, but also a possible invalid one. It may be true that our lives maybe be predetermined or set to a limited number, and instead of a living them out in a linear timeline, they could be cast the same way you would if you had a handful of darts and threw them all at once at the dartboard, (the dartboard being the sum of all lives and 'your' universe).

However, I think the past has it's place in terms of 'past life experience' much the same way that it is used in the physical present life as a trailing edge of the location which helps you to move forward or ahead towards your next acheivable goal, (working towards a successful OOBE, or higher salary, or whatever). To get caught up in the semantics of any of the words we use to describe our language is just as silly as it was when former President Clinton used the legal system to state, (define what is, is).

In other words, you can sit here all day and say, Life is really the dream, there is no such direction as up, you didn't move forwards or backwords if you were always lying down and never really went anywhere. And you sir would be correct, to a lesser degree. While you are sitting there in your ego at that point, others of us will be traveling, and able to relate to one another by agreeing to the vocabulary and definitions of the words we are using to recount and share the experience, (something the rest of us learned how to do in grades k thru 6).

Furthermore, because each PAST life experience was felt as exactly that, (just as there is a distinct transition and feeling of going from monday thru friday in going to work on a daily basis), it is therefore regarded as such and not open to further disection and discussion. If you'd like to start a new thread, "How do you know a past life took place in the past", go right ahead, but for those who have responded, and understood what I was sharing with them, I look forward to hearing of your 'past' life experience so I may share another as well.

Namaste,
Oahn

PS - there is no wrench in the works here. I have checked and rechecked all systems and by all accounts of what seem to be the natural laws of physics and the varying theories on universal atrophy and such, everything here is AOK!

OK, I am awake now!

Here we go...GOD it feels good finally being able to get this stuff off of my chest. I have neglected looking at this aspect of myself and been trying to be as 'normal' as I could with pursuing a career, wife, family, etc. I haven't told this to very many or even a few people for that matter, so thank you for the opportunity.

First major trama *healed* in past life came about when I was doing a guided imagery session (where music is used to induce relaxed state, much like being in 2 places at once, physical body awareness and in deep state).
I was looking for the reason as to why I was afraid of Thunder sound. Up until the age of 26 or so, I would actually shudder and stick my fingers in my ear during a thunder strorm. I had always thought it was due to a war or something I might have been in, but no, it was something else entirely.
I found myself in what felt to be Scotland around the year 1000AD? I was chopping wood and heard a LOUD thundering boom above. I looked up and saw a UFO flying above and towards the forest. What was weird though was this person I was did not understand what he was looking at. Me (now) in this past life thing, knew what it was and there was this weird feeling of confussion between the duality of minds (I hope that makes sense). He went chasing into the forest, across a clearing or field away from his village. (200 yards?) into the woods he (I) see a craft about 25 feet in diameter in the ground and these 'Nordic' tall looking beings getting out and stepping down a platform. I am TOTALLY freaked out as this person, that is, he is scared and watches them from behind a tree. Then he steps on a branch and makes a noise and they look up at him. He panics and runs back towards the edge of the forrest towards his village. About 150 yards out, I (he) actually feel the sensation of this craft lifting up (the mass and displacement, much like bass sound from a strong subwoofer) moving up in the air and coming towards me. I get to the edge of the forrest and realize how big the distance is even though I can see the village. That if I go running across, they will see me and who knows then? I run anyway. I am breathing hard and can feel this thing coming behind me from the sky, I glance over my shoulder and see it coming down, diagonally towards me and ***FLASH*** white light.

I am now on the ship and wake up. I am sitting in a room with smooth round contours, on a molded bench around the rim of the craft. There is a big window and I can see the planet earth from above, (he can but is totally ignorant and can't comprehend what he is seeing). They are smiling at me and say, "You will not understand this now, but you will one day. We are watching you all and when the time comes you will join with us as well. We are trying to help you to become what you are to become anyway." They show me a star map and something about the future. However, this guy, (me) unfortunately is a Dumb "F" compared to modern man so they might of well told me that I was going to get laid by Pam Anderson and he would of still looked like the 2nd man on line in the homo-errectus chart of evolution. LOL! Really, the duality of minds, his from then and mine from now, I wanted to take control and ask then a bejillion questions, but that's the difference between a past life and OOBE. This was playing out like the most incredibly realistic movie and I was a connected participant. Other past life regressions had the same feel but what is EXTRORDINARY about them is the information instored in that prior person's head and what you know as true in that being.
For instance, I had another experience where I had a wife and 2 children, could remember them in my mind, I knew where I lived, and what I did, and what I believed, etc. REALLY weird when you have the duality of minds, PLUS your 3rd person here in a chair in the future...trippy!
Anyway, they returned me to earth and I heard the boom again, except this time there was no craft in the air. I got the impression that this person (me) did not recall the experience and it mirrored what people now report as missing time and abduction phenomena, without the greys however.
From this I determined the following. The thunder made some part of me recall the feeling of abduction. More importantly, when I was a kid, up until the age of 11, I use to be SO SCARED, of going home from my friends' homes at night. I use to 'feel' that someone or something was watching from the sky and if they could see me, they would get me. I use to stay under the bows and eves of trees and such and scurry from yard to yard, sidewalk to sidewalk running home as fast as I could. I had total recall of that when I had this experience, and just like that, it all went away.

The fear of thunder and the rememberance of this silly behavior as a kid, remembered and GONE!

I have 2 or 3 other experiences I'd like to share in this catagory but I have to go home from work, (nice job, huh?!). If you are interested, I will be glad to share!

Namaste,
John

Hey guys, correct me if I am wrong here...

I think napoleon stated in the first post (Sorry for my poor English) and with that, I kept thinking as I read (his?) posts thereafter that it wasn't so much negativity as it was practicality and reality on (his?) part?

My impression of foreigners in general is that they are not as spoiled in America with an attitude of you can simply DO EVERYTHING you want whenever you fancy. I think some countries are more disciplined and more realistic of the world THEY live in. Heck, to grow up in a socialist or communist country would give you a HELL of a lot different perspective to the possibilities you have in life. I think America is a progressive place to live as far as exploring as many religious and spiritual studies as you want without having to suffer dire social consequences for doing so.
I believe in China and Russia, the bible and christianity were banned for many years. In India, you could be subject to a caste system if you are of any worth and the rules that govern it. In the Islamic countries, can you question the possibilities of other spiritual paths as well without being an infidel? And don't forget the power that church and religious organizations can have on someone and screw up their thinking because of dogmatic practices. Because of those spiritual dogmatic influences, (and that includes MANY people in the USA, ahem catholics). you would be too fearful to think outside the confines of your church, lest you go to hell. So napoleon might be correct to a degree. Some people WILL never get this stuff, no matter how hard they try, until they address those mental, spiritual or emotional blocks they have already programmed in their mind preventing them from success in this arena.

I hope I am not off-base here but at best, if napoleon, (or I for that matter), is to be criticized, please let it because of simply being misinformed. And please correct us both from a place that we are on the same team, we are all seekers of truth.

Namaste,
Oahn

Hello,

In short answer to your question, I have undergone several past life experiences, but there is never any certain way to know for sure if they were really yours regardless of scientific method of examining information uncovered in such instances. For example, even if you somehow seem to recall a time and place, and can confirm with looking up history that confirms your recalling, how do you know it was actually you from a past life and not simply 'DNA Memory' of one of your ancestors that you are connecting with?
Not trying to discourage you here, but I am trying to give you some possibilities to consider just in case you have a dreadful past life experience, (one of mine was) and so you can have a better way of dealing with it.

I am about to pass out due to lack of sleep, but i will continue this thread tommorrow when I get to work. I'm sorry...

Off to dreamland,
Oahn

Yippee Kiya!

Hey Donna, thanks again!

Well...funny how the universe works when you agree to work with it.
I put out to the universe the following statement, "I am willing to work for you if you would please guide me to do so..." And in the past 2 months, it has been doing exactly that!
I have connected with Genevieve Paulson, author of 'Kundalini and the Chakras: A Practical Manual-Evolution in This Lifetime' through phone conversations and have discussed my experiences in length on the subject of Kundalini energy. She confirmed that I am working with it as she knows it.
And now, the second step, which I thought was going to align this way, is the same connection I feel with the OOBEs.
After looking at the site you gave a link to, I already contacted a practicing meditation group in my area, (only 12 miles away) and I am ecstatic to know that I will have mentors now in channeling and maintaining the energy properly.
There are other syncronicities occurring as well, but if you know anything about anything, some things are meant purely for you, the experiencer, and not meant to be shared with others...with that, I simply say, "thanks to all of you who have welcomed me aboard in this forum. It seems you have helped me greatly already!"

Namaste
Oahn

Thank you Donna,

Well received here...excellent site link!

Namaste,
Oahn

Thanks for the link!

Oahn

Waterfall,

Wonderful posts...I would like to know more about the face changing phenomena. I have been told, and accused, by past girlfriends and several stranges, that on occasion, my face had changed with what appeared to be afterimages or alterations which resembled people of different cultures and time periods. I have connected with this on only 3 or so occasions myself when also feeling like such people but never gave it much thought after that. I was certain that the phenomena was somehow linked to possible past lives but the way you describe it, multiple souls in a soul group would also make perfect sense.

Thank you,
Oahn

Don't know about the visualization technique, but I know what works and what will save you money, time and frustration in the long run.

Check out the following website:
www.musclenow.com

Read what the key has to say and all of the testimonies given.
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PS - I am under an alias and will not give you my real name so as to prove that I am not gaining anything from this guy's book by endorsing it. Oahn Macleod is obviously a fascade screen name. And it's not my site and I am not the guy selling. I live in NJ, he is from PA and I simply came across his site and got lucky in finding it. You are now lucky to know where to look as well!
www.musclenow.com

Sincerely,
Oahn

Too much said on this not to comment further...

First things first. There are MANY things that can awaken Kundalini energy and as far as few people having the experience, I can't state that to be true or not true. I have read much literature on the topic and can state my belief on the subject from the following experiences. A quick run down of what YOU WILL experience in a full awakening is as follows:

*A feeling fo fire that will shoot up from the base of your spine all the way and out the crown of your head. You may even feel a band of energy going out of your head but will feel extreme joy/bliss/sensation like no other. When it is happening, you can't stop it! Like the elevator in WIlly Wonka, it's UP and OUT!*

*Connected with the universe and what seems to be UNLIMITED ACCESS to the universal knowledge. You actually feel in the frame of mind that you can know everything, that is, you are open to it, not necessarily receiving it"

*Physically you feel better than the best orgasm you've probably ever had! And afterwards and for weeks to months to come you would very well see yourself sleeping less and doing MUCH more. Your actions are quick and perfect in excution, including heightened perceptions, smell, sight, hearing, precognitive, etc. However, you are also more open to emotional mood swings because everything is more open and sensative to energies around you.* (This in turn lead to profound changes in my business dealings, contacts with people, my physical appearance, stance, manner of speaking, eloquence, profoundness, and changes of personality that EVERYONE was taking notice and asking, "What has happened to you? You are so full of energy and can you give me some?")

Mr. Bruce states, "I worked out kundalini for myself, with no instruction. I should have died, but I did not." Thankfully I did not die either. My experience finally did end with my having to go to a hospital for 2 weeks to try to establish a healthy sleep pattern again. It was here that I had my first EEG and recording of very high Delta states when I was fully awake and Alert. This was after 5 MONTHS OF WORKING WITH IT! Had I had a Guru as recommended, I would have learned much better grounding techniques, and how to channel the energy in a more healthy fashion. And the coming down from such a high was SCARY as sin itself. It's like getting a cow to go up stairs, not too damn hard, but down, OH BOY! Going up in energy is easy because IT IS the natural progression, just like it's easier to go from poor to rich in material wealth (not talking greed, talking comfort level afforded when money is properly used). You connect with Godhead and other forms of higher self, guided, everything. Very fasinating.

I had been practicing active meditation, energy work, energy rising, primary chakra work, channeling, inspirational writing and intense prayer and mantra for many years before this occurred. The straw that broke the camel's back was when I stated, "I PRAY FOR DEATH, GIVE ME A SHAMANIC DEATH!" Whammo!, that's when the serpant awoke. The room became dead silent as if in a vacuum, (like when you go up in an airplane and your ears clog up), and finally the fire and rushing of energy. INCREDIBLE!

I was neither scared or in pain, just weeping in joyful bliss and thanking God for hearing my prayers. And there was a new, very incredible view of the world around me. I was now connected to everything, animals, earth, people, everything!
******THIS ENERGY CANNOT BE MISTAKEN FOR ANYTHING YOU'VE EVER EXPERIENCED! WHEN YOU HAVE IT YOU WILL KNOW, NO DOUBTS WHATSOVER!***** You cannot liken it to a lucid dream, or OOBE, or psychic flash, or wonderful Reiki session or anything else. It's like plugging a 110V appliance onto a 220V circuit, IT IS SUPER CHARGED ENERGY!
It's not raised once, it comes on in 'waves' afterwards of varying degrees, but seldom, if ever, as strong as it does the first time it "AWAKENS" because this is where the initial release is made and the pathways are shaped for how your body releases and channels it. If you have blockages, if you have areas that you have not worked on, if you have not prepared mentally or stated your intent at the onset, there may be 'unpleasant consequences' in releasing such energy too soon. By unpleasant I mean, through lack of understanding of what is really going on. It's like someone having to have a heart attack to find other things wrong with them in their body that they should have known about before and done something sooner.

Sometimes 'negative' side-affects and events help us to move through things we are unwilling to acknowledge and help us to make it through what we 'thought' we could not handle. At all times, not sometimes, Fear is best conquered when having to deal with it as it is, otherwise it wouldn't be your fear now would it? If I am afraid of the dark and not spiders and you keep dangling spiders in front of me, then how am I going to get over the fear of the dark thing?

And with regards to so few having the experience, please believe me when I state that it is overrated in who ever says you should try to have one. Like any other modality or school of thought and study you wish to pursue, you only get out of it what you put into it and if you are working with other methods that are working VERY well for you, then 99.9% of you will NOT have a Kundalini most likely. It's like learning trying to learn EVERYTHING that the school teacher knows in order to pass the one class subject they are teaching. It is in know way necessary for you to know all they know for you will pass proficiently with what they teach you and you will go on to learn other things you need to learn 'specifcally' for where you are to go in life and what vocation or thing you wish to pursue in YOUR LIFE.

In this respect I believe that Robert Bruce is teacher with many gifts and advanced experiences. I myself am on this path and have been told I would be since I was 4.The only difference between Robert and I is what a good friend of mine had told me a long time ago. And before you think me pompous in holding myself in high regard, please read the following which has changed my life forever!

I have a friend who was a mentor to me, went to M.I.T., earned 2 PHd's, worked on the Apollo missions for NASA, speaks 5 languages and is working on advanced theories that could possibly replace maxwell's equations one day. I said to him one day, "Paul, you are SO MUCH SMARTER than I am at things, I will never be as smart as you..." (I was 21 at the time, he was already 61). You know what he said to me, and you should really take it to heart before you hold anyone so high, including Mr. Bruce, (sorry sir)...he said, "The only difference between you and I is that you haven't been tested yet. Sure, I went to M.I.T., I got my 2 PHd's, I wrote papers that got published and so on...hell, I could very well be smart, but it's only because I was told that I was going to be tested on what I was going to school for and I made it a point to learn what I was learning, and to learn it well. You are seeing a man who has lived 61 years and has questioned himself time and again, checking his life the way he would equations and thankfully, somehow, godwilling, I think I've gotten it right? You see the result of my life, the house, the wife, the 3 children, my PHd's on the wall, but what you did not see was the work it took to get there. Give yourself time, learn everything you can, and when the time comes, you will be tested. Whether you pass or fail is up to you, so your best bet is to simply be ready."

When he said that at me, "WHOA!" I was blown away!!! I never really saw it that way, nor did I have as much respect for myself as this guy obviously had. I had always compared myself to others in regard to what they had, or accomplished and looked at myself in a manner of, you have to catch up or do better and so on. What I was missing, what was wasted on me was all of the compliments and remarks people had made of me all of those 21 years while I was growing up. I was struggling to acheive certain things in my life based on the distorted views I had of my own self image. I had failed to see all of the good qualities I had already and the work I had put in already in making it to 21 years of age. And with my friend Paul, he was right. I didn't see the fact that he was 1 of 13 children and had to do well in school in order to make it, came from another country (Canada) and was in school until he was 28-29 years old. That he didn't make much money for the first 15-20 years of his life and had lived in the same home for over 30 years. I was only seeing what he had amassed and accomplished later on.

It's very difficult to write about yourself in the positive, we are not taught to view ourselves that way. We are so on guard and protective of our fragile egos that we are quick to take the defensive to those who speak in the positive about themselves. I have always been told the following of myself:

*I am highly intuitve, I am well spoken, I am intelligent, deep, creative, artistic and musically gifted (play piano and perfect pitch) Mechanically and Technically inclined, well developed EQ (emotional quotient), well developed feminine side, secure in my sexuallity (have no trouble hugging a man or kissing men on the cheek as sign of affection in public, just brought up that way), so this might include gregarious, demonstrative qualities as well. A leadership type person (good at taking charge and leading others), inventive, loving and a good guy, even nice. Terms I heard time and again but never accepted fully. If someone said, "You're a nice guy..." I'd reply, "no, really..." and shy away... and when you think about it, isn't that a real slap in the face to the other person who is paying you the compliment? You rob them of the joy of doing so, (I like giving people sincere compliments) and also, you are saying to some degree, "Your words mean s**t to me, I don't really believe you and you are basically wasting your breath." Think about it. Why would they say it if they didn't mean it. New rule, and you have to believe if, you don't have a choice. If someone tells you something about yourself and you've heard it at least one or two other times from others as well, then it must be true. Period. That includes the negative as well as the good. I've sat and reflected on the negative and tried to make it better. Sometimes the truth really does hurt.

What I am getting at people is, "Please, take a good hard look at yourself. Assess the work you've done up to this point. Release the ego and realize, you've come VERY far in spiritual terms by even joining forums such as this." There are people who are good with money in life, some with business, some with people, some with agriculture and the list goes on. You have chosen the spiritual path and as harsh as it sounds that you might not have a Kundalini experience pleass ask yourself, "What is my real intent in having one, to wear it like a badge and brag, I had that too, or because I truly think it will change my life in such a way that I need to have it or never feel complete?" In regards to Mr. Bruce, he is a master in his own right and has acomplished much indeed. I hold him in high regards and experienced in the realm of OOBE and Astral travel but not at the expense of re-enforcing self-doubt about myself like so many newbies and bodhi's do when learning something new. You see it in so many groups, the one who thinks they aren't going to get it going on to be better than the rest who thought they were better...funny the way the universe works.

I've thrown a lot out here. Blast me if you wish. Hopefully you will re-read this post if you are on the defensive with the ego and think I am coming from that place as well. If so, please go back and read this as if your brother or loved one was telling you, because friend, there is much I have to learn about other aspects that I have or may not be able to. Please master those if you are already on that path and share with me the same raw truth. Collectively, we might one day come up with the final answer.

Namaste,
John

I have seen those floating things, (look like tadpoles or something) floating around when staring at a blue sky out of focus. They seem to be internal to the membrane of my eye.

In the dark of my bedroom at night, I don't look for them anymore because I'm tired now at night, I use to see "Magic Dots" and call out to them each night when in bed. They would float around the room and surround the bed and keep me company so to speak. They would sometimes take shape and even float right up to my fact and take different abstract forms. They almost looked like the dots you see on a TV screen when sitting SUPER close, the pixels on the screen, red, blue, green.

Don't know if that's what you meant, but had to share...

Thnx
Oahn

Ahh, love coincidences like that...

Sometimes it's syncronicity and serendipity as well...

I remember, was it last year, when George Harrison died and for some reason I went out for Indian food for lunch. I didn't go directly to this resturant, in fact, I wasn't even going that way for anything really in my car, but found myself there none the less. I sat down and was about to begin eating from the buffet when I saw the owner talking to another customer was obviously looking for a place to sit and eat. I was sitting at a table for two and asked if he would please be my guest. He asked if it was ok and I insisted that he sit and enjoy some good food. The owner thanked me and he got went to get his food. While doing so I kind of evesdropped on a conversation that was going on at a table next to me about spirituality and mystical experiences and such and thought about my own experiences with Kundalini energy. The gentleman returned with his plate of food and sat down a few minutes later. Shorty thereafter we struck up a conversation and it turned to George and 'The concert for Bangla Desh' and the introduction of Ravi Shankar. Then I asked this guy, and really didn't expect an answer other than, "What's that?" I asked, "Do you know anything about Kundalini work?" and he smiled and said, "YES, oh, I studied in India for many years..." and off we went with that conversation for the next 30 minutes. He really knew too, about the power and the madness and everything in between. I shared my experience and so on and there was this totally harmony as if we were old friends connecting after some many years. It was one of the better lunches I had had in so long a time. We left saying goodbye and shaking hands and I thanked him for sitting as he thanked me for offering to sit and we parted.

As customary for me, I like to thank my guides and the universe at large on moments like this for it helps strengthen the beliefs I have about this life experience. I feel validated and 'right' in my thinking in that we are more interconnected than we allow ourselves on a societal whole and if I keep my focus and intent in that direction, I will simply find others who share like beliefs. That way, harmony is maintained by not preaching to others on how to think or belief, but simply, working with others who are already in agreeance. I look forward to the day when all of our goals are towards forward, progressive thinking for the benefit of each other and not the individual, ego-self. God knows I can't do it alone, and if you think you can, you are fooling yourself. Look around you...there are many : )

Namaste,
Oahn

Huh, I dream in the opposite as well...

However, I have the opposite problem from you as well...

I am a very confidant, outgoing person who everyone says that I look very confident, like I own the place at times. At business meetings, I am usually mistaken for the guest speaker by whatever hotel we are at because I am usually up near the front talking to everyone and the hotel staff and management always ask me where I want things set up and stuff. The funniest is in stores I get mistaken for management as well.

In my dreams however, the inverse is true. I actually find sanctuary in the anonymity given me in most settings and what's really weird is when I have a dream that involves flying, or super-natural powers or such, I really get ignored by those around me. I remember going back in time in one dream and trying to tell people in a high school class of things to come. I was back in the late 50's and telling them about Kennedy and the space program and the far future, where to invest their money, even modern advancements in raising consciousness and it was like talking to 2 year olds.
Oh, the other thing, for some reason, I can't harm people in my dreams. Whereas I would, and have, defend people physically in the real world, in my dreams, my punches, kicks, etc. have little to no effect on people. It's like I wind up to throw a punch at an enemy and when it touches their cheek or something, it's more like when you give that ole' "that a boy" type tap on the chin and they look at me like, "What's wrong with you wuss?"
I remember feeling, "Man, I don't want to hurt anyone anyway, it's really not my nature..."

Oh, and sometimes in dreams when I have those odd behaviors it helps me realize that I am in the dream state so I have a bit more control.

Oahn

PS - My biggest fear in life is that I won't get a chance to die this time around.
I have this sinking feeling that science will intervene somehow and I will be one of the unlucky candidates to have his life extended. That means I'll be working and paying taxes for god knows how long and NO chance of ever collect Social Security : )

You have to go to:
http://www.parabox.net/eye-candy/

and then choose Flasher down the list...

Sorry!

Oahn

If you need an excellent program for inducing different wave states...

I have used the following 2...
Flasher, which is a DOS program and very good in that it flashes to induce the alpha,beta.theta or delta wave state you want to get into.
It can be found at:
http://www.parabox.net/eye-candy/FLASHER.exe
***there is a warning not to use if susceptable to epilepsy***

And for sound waves, an excellent program might be found here at:
http://www.bwgen.com

Both are excellent programs, however, Flasher can only be used on WIN98 or prior as it is a DOS proggie, and I haven't take the time to see if I can somehow get it to run with WinXP properly. I believe if you make a boot up disk with it, and go to generic DOS, (if possible with XP), then you can run it fine...

Have fun with both...

Oahn