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#1
Welcome to Dreams! / Dream Walking
November 16, 2002, 21:09:02
Does anyone have any experience with, or information on dream walking? I've heard that once you have mastered lucid dreaming you can leave your dream setting, enter the dream plane (astral plane?) and from there you can enter into and interact in other people's dreams. Someone brought this to my attention but this is all the info I got. Has anyone heard of this?

#2
Has anyone here ever ingested or smoked salvia divinorum? This is a plant that is a part of the mint family and is primarily grown in southern Mexico. It is currently legal in the United States and produces very profound effects when smoked. The reason why I am telling you about this plant is because of the amazing experiences I have had with it relating to Astral Projection. Every time I smoke it I immediatly lose consciousness. My friends tell me I am out for 3 or 4 minutes. What happens to me during that time is amazing. I did not know exatly what was happening until I read Astral Dynamics, particularly the part about the mind split effect and lost shadow memories. while I am passed out physically mentally lost shadow memories of past Astral Projections are being unlocked and I get to receive these memories in real-time. It does not feel like I am having  actual OBE but when these memories flood my conciousness it is so real and I remember the projection very clearly.
So far every shadow memory I have unlocked during my salvia journeys have been from the Astral plane. No lost real time projection memories have come. This experience proves to me that lost shadow memories or not lost forever but are stored away in the brain and can be unlocked. I am sure that there are other ways to do it also. The Salvia Divinorum that I use is extremely strong because the plant matter is mixed with a purified extract of salvinorin A (the active compound in Salvia Divinorum) and I recommend that this is the type of material to use because you only need to take 1 hit so it is not bad for your lungs. If you want more information please visit Daniel Sieberts web site at www.sagewisdom.org. The other day I also found  web site that was selling salvia divinorum and there whole pitch was that it instantly gives you the power to Astral Project. I strongly disagree with that and all of my conscious OBE's have been done without the use of any drug.
If you want to check out that site it is www.lucid-dragon.com.


#3
Hello everyone! This is my first post on this forum and I am so happy I found this site. Astral Dynamics found it's way into my hands a little over a week ago and it is completely blew my mind. I have had countless fully conscious real time and astral projections over the last 7 years. The book The Projection of the Astral Body by Sylvan Muldoon got me out of my body and was my bible. Every single one of my OBE's have occured when I wake up in the middle of the night with roaring full body vibrations rolling through my paralized body. I know what is happening and I roll right out of my body. This has happened to me countless times over the past 7 years but during the last 2 years I have found a way to guarentee that I wil have a string of these mid-night OBE's and it is quite a odd way to do it. I also have no idea why this happens to me so I would highly value any of your opinions on this.  
During the entire time I have been having OBE's I have also been smoking marijuana on a daily basis. I used to have OBE's at complete random until about 2 years ago I discovered that if I go all day without smoking at all I it would take 3 to 4 hours to get to sleep and I would have a string of OBE's lasting hours sometimes. I have since then tested this many many times and it happens without fail! I admit this is a crazy way to have conscious OBE's but what works works. I now do not smoke 3 days out of the week and dedicate them to astral projection and energy work. Has anyone ever heard of this before or have any idea why it happens? I would value your opinion.
One more thing I want to tell you is that Astral Dynamics is now my bible. The NEW system is incredible and the first time I tried the rope technique after relaxing for about 15 minutes I felt really dizzy, like i was spinning to a 180 degrees from where i was and then the vibrations started and I almost had a OBE for the first time where I started fully conscious. This is now my ultimate goal and I know that NEW and the rope technique are going to work.



#4
Wow, experiencing synesthesia all the time as part of your daily seems overwelming. I have experienced it temporarally when I smoke pure DMT or eat a bunch of LSD, and the experience is particularly intense. For people who live with this condition, is it something you are grateful for and benefit from, or is it something you wish would go away?
#5
Welcome to Astral Chat! / milk
January 19, 2003, 02:54:26
Soy Dream is my favorite brand. Milk is for baby cows not adult humans!!
#6
I have been using mind expanding plants for longer than I have been astral projecting and I have experience with DMT and 5-MEO-DMT. This is the most powerful drug I have ever taken, and one of my favorites, right next to psilocybin. The place this drug takes you is surprising and deeply psychedelic. I can tell you, because I have a lot of experience in both places, that DMT does not make you astral project in the same way that we discuss on this site. DMT allows you to experience a different reality. The receptors that are taking in "reality juice" seritonin, are now receiving DMT. DMT is structurally similar to seritonin. There is no way to prepare yourself for this sudden shift in reality. I'm terrified every time. But it's human food and I love it!
#7
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Originally posted by Synapse:
if u want explore using drugs get some skunk.

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Right on brotha!! Ahh, the joys of California!!

#8
What's the "real thing"? The salvinorin flash is just as "real" as a conscious astral projection, they are just completely different realities. When you get a full dose of salvinorin A, or DMT you are thrown into a completely different reality and it becomes less like a drug experience and more like a happening, or a unique encounter between you and something in another place. Just like astral projection. I have dedicated a lot of time to exploring the astral realms and the psychedelic realms, seperately of course, and consider both of them to be completely real and use both of them to explore myself and enter new worlds.

#9
Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Lost the knack
November 24, 2002, 00:05:35
Yes, you will get back what you lost. I know this because I know that all  it takes is the will to do so, and you have that will. Let the adventures begin!!

#10
Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Lost the knack
November 23, 2002, 23:42:49
How were you flying in the astral before you stopped? What made you stop? Why do you want to start again? These are all questions you should ask yourself. Astral projection is a very deep personal experience and I have found that if you meditate and communicate with your inner self all your answers will come to you. You have already had astral experiences so you know the reality of it and you know what to expect so all that is needed to begin again is personal communication with your inner self.

#11
I have also been having spontaneous projections for most of my life. For the past 7 years I have been studying astral projection and realize that most people are not as blessed as we are. Fear is definantly a major barrier we need to break through because we are not inducing this upon ourselves, it just happens, which at first can be quite frightening because you don't know what's going on. Now that you are becoming educated on this it's time to embrace these sacred moments without fear and begin to explore the astral realm!

#12
I have a deep relationship with Salvia and have been blessed with the opportunity to smoke pure salvinorin A. I have given my opinion of this substance in my post under the same name as this one. If you want a legit supplier of salvia divinorum order the "extra strength" enhanced leaf from www.sagewisdom.org. 25mg of leaf, which is a wisp of smoke, contains 1 mg of salvinorin A. There will be no complaints of "not feeling it" when you smoke this. You will be catipulted from your reality and the leaves of the shepherdess will show you hers....

#13
Welcome to Astral Chat! / I'm in trouble...
November 20, 2002, 16:10:01
Ah, the evils of alchohol. Seems like everyone meets the alchohol devil face to face at some point in there lives. Years ago I got to the point were I would completely black out and forget everything every time I drank. Fortuantly I was never a agressive drunk but I definantly would get out of control and eat a lot more drugs than I would have if I wasn't drunk. One time I ate 25 hits of pure LSD while in a blackout. I don't remember doing it but I fried balls for like 4 days. I get out of control when I drink like that!

#14
It sounds like you are all set to go except your energy level isn't high enough to sustain your astral body while it's away. This is a problem that plagues many people atempting concious OBE. Robert Bruce realized this when he developed NEW. In his book AD Robert gives a condensed version of NEW that is designed to build energy for people wanting to Astral Project. When in your situation he recommends taking a couple weeks off trying to project and cocentrate on building your energy. It sounds like you are real close and once you build your energy there is no limit as to what can happen! I wish you the best!


#15
Welcome to Dreams! / Lucid Dream to OBE?
November 19, 2002, 21:02:35
It sounds like you experienced a conscious OBE. Now that you know what it feels like to project from a lucid dream, and the fact that you go lucid every night, you have yourself a very reliable personal technique for projection! At this point I recommend reading Astral Dynamics, if you haven't already.

#16
I felt it.

#17
Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Astral wind...
November 14, 2002, 19:26:23
I've had what I believe to have been astral wind experiences a few times. When I read that part in AD it really hit home and he explained what was happening really well. For me I will be in real time usually shortly after the exit and I am still close to my body when I will become paralized in my real time body and then be sucked backward towards my body by a uncontrolable force. I think I am being pulled back into my body but I will float pass my body and into my closet or wall. At that point I feel I am being blown through a tunnel at the speed of light when suddenly it stops and I either find myself somewhere in the astral realm or I wake up paralized back in my physical body. In the latter case I believe I still ended up in the astral plane but lost all shadow memories of the experience. What do you think? is this a astral wind experience or just a tube-type entrance structure?



#18
The human brain is full of receptor sites who's sole function in life is to receive and properly distribute psyhoactive chemicals given to us by God/Godess. I believe using chemicals in our brain is part of our nature and evolution.

#19
Thanks for the article. It was dead-on. The earth is in a transitional phase that all planets and the beings that inhabit it go threw. We are about to leave the 3rd dimension of this planet and rise into the 4th then 5th dimension. The way things are going here in the 3rd dimension I think it will soon look like venus or mars does, but in the 5th dimension we will be thriving and earth will be more beautiful then we have ever imagined. I believe races of being have already lest the 3rd dimension on the other planets in our solar system and that's why they seem to be uninhabitable. I believe there are races of beings living on all the other planets but they are in another dimension. The Hathors live in the 4th dimension on venus. They are helping us through our transition, as well as all the ascended masters from our planet. This is a amazing time to be alive and the transition is going to be beautiful!

#20
It sounds like you are falling deeper into trance. When the full body vibes hit there will be no question. It will feel the same as when you woke up in the night with the vibrations, probably stronger. When you do get the vibrations next time try using the rope tequnique.

#21
I think you might be experiencing somnambulism (sleep walking). This has happened to me a few times and it felt just like you described. Your sub conscious mind is controlling you when this happens. What I think is happening is you are about to have a OBE whether it be conscious or unconscious but the body is not relaxed enough so it gets up and does random things instead of the astral body. Does that sound about right?

#22
This happens to me all the time. You should take advantage of this situation and not scare yourself out of it because you could have a fully conscious OBE. Next time this happens relax and flow with it like you would any other OBE. You are probably having full on astral projections and maybe just losing the shadow memories. Robert Bruce has some really good methods for increasing your shadow memories in his book Astral Dynamics.

#23
I have been vegan (no meat or dairy products) for 5 years and found that that diet is extremely good for astral projection.

#24


I have smoked herb regulary for the past 9 years and have had hundreds of fully conscious OBE's over the past 7 years. If you read my first post titled "what's your opinion on this technique?" you will see that actually NOT smoking weed all day causes me to have fully conscious OBE's. In answer to your question that if herb damages your astral body I would say that it does not because I have been astral projecting for 7 years and my experiences are getting more amazing, and vivid all the time, especially over the past 2 years during which I have had controlled OBE's by using my technique I told you about (not smoking all day).  This method works for about 3 days and then my OBE's hapen at random like they would for my first 5 years of experience. I would be against actually using marijuana during a atempt at projection. It has never worked for me. It seems like it works against projection when you are high. I do enjoy meditation and energy work though while using herb. I think one thing you should trust is nature and her gifts to man and using any of her tools will not give you bad karma as long as you use them properly and with love.