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Hi Mate,

Wow, good stuff. That is some really valuable info you've shared Lucky. I hear what you are saying about the magnetic field and the pulling away.

Moving along rather quickly you say?? I have never been more frustrated. I started getting a little bit doubtful in the last day or so, whether or not I could actually get out. But persistence prevails. Yes I am aware of the chakras and may have had to spend a little time working on it. I tend to get ticked off pretty quick though when things don't work as they should and it affects my ability to relax, so sometimes I just need to put things down and then come back to them later.

A couple of other people have said that I am moving rather quickly....the only thing I can think of that may help me move along a bit faster is I don't have any hang-ups on if the spiritual is real or not, because I've experienced it and have grown up with a spiritual influence (I am a Christian) but before I was, I was a druggo & a crim and when I decided to turn away from that style of living I noticed that I started to have alot of spiritual opposition - demonic presences in my room, sometimes wake me up etc and the feelings were sometimes overwhelmingly evil, so I knew I wasn't too popular anymore. While I was doing their bidding I don't think they had a problem, until I decided to change teams. So I tend to feel what goes on around me more than I see things.

Man you have no idea, I am just aching and itching on the inside to get out and I want to go and help in the bad areas (with an angel of course) where people need help, as I have read about.

I hear what you are saying about the rope deal and the log rolling. Here I am trying to pull a rope etc, but need to be out first. I hear you loud and clear.

And the name dalearner - yes mate I picked that name because I am always hungry to learn more and understand more about life etc. So I picked a name that would also keep me humble as I tend to get a bit cocky from time to time, so It's just a reminder to myself that "I AINT THE excrement" Like I used to think I was - which is what got me in the excrement in the first place LOL.

Mate honestly, I don't know why I have even started thinking about OBE's, just recently my business has been going well, life is good and I have the lifestyle I want, and then "BANG" - out of no-where I am feeling bored senseless with making money and I get a spritual hunger that just won't settle down and next thing I am watching you tube and start looking up OBE's and then I'm trying to do it. It's been a bit strange actually I don't really understand where this hunger has come from but I am determined to find out and part of finding the answers is to get out of my body and go find them.

About micheivious beings...hmm actually it was the first thought that came into my mind when it happened. What do you mean by not everyone is keen about getting out of my body at will?

In regards to your visual questions:

Visual when I close my eyes and then see faces or trees etc - Nothing, I don't see anything clearly like that.

However - In my imagination, it is crystal clear, I would say a 10 because sometimes my body jerks out of reaction so my brain must think its real.


In relation to chakras - here's a link to help with chakras

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3hy3P0W2BU

Chat soon champion

Cheers
Justin

Lucky, you are a champion mate. LOL, the rope technique?? I decided to cut the rope up and throw it in the bin. It's about as useless to me as petrol with no spark. I think what you have given me there should most probably help get me "over the hump", there is some really good stuff that I had not thought of so THANKS a heap.

About 5 days ago I was reading as many posts as I could on this website to get as many answers and knowledge as I could so I could get it happening as quickly as possible. From what I have read, I think I am doing ok....but those people who get projection on first go absolutely annoy the crap out of me LOL.

In regards to your comment about the astral and physical body getting out of sync, yes I understand what you are saying, it feels a little bit like when you put two repelling ends of a magnet together and they tend to start pushing each other away because the magnetic fields are out of sync (which is sort of what the vibrations actually feel like when I have experienced them).

I have been practicing to project about 2 - 3 times per day/night, as I have read that practice seems to be a major key. I noticed while doing a couple of times that I felt exhausted trying to project, so I did a search through the posts for answers and found that my chakras might not be charged.....I thought "what the heck is a chakra??!!" So I read up on it and now know what and where they are and what each ones functions is, so I have been doing some chakra techniques the last few days to raise the energy, as it makes a big difference I noticed - even physically, I used to need 10hrs sleep, since I started practicing I am lucky to get 6 hrs sleep and I feel about 5 times brighter than when I was sleeping longer hrs.

Also to answer your question, yes mate I am mostly a visual personality so anything visual usually gives me a good kickstart. If you could share that visual tecnique with me that would be great.

P.S - Also I have one other question. My leg was out, and my left foot was having trouble getting out and my leg started twitching alot and it was like my astral foot was trying to shake free - It felt like my astral foot was handcuffed to my physical foot, it was loose but I couldn't get it totally free - do you have any Idea what that sensation was all about - Mind you I noticed that was before I spent time working on my chakras - since then I havent had any troubles with that foot. 

I'll wait to hear from you.

You're A champ.

Cheers
Justin

Hi All,

I have had a couple of Lucid dreams etc, and am slowly getting to the point of being awake when it is done. It's getting that final point out that seems to be a little tricky.

1. I started practicing for a fully concious exit about 4 days ago. The first time I tried, I was buzzing etc but couldn't get out - my head felt stuck and it felt like my feet were up near the top of the room. However my chest felt like It was in ecstacy, and I didn't sleep all night because I was so full of energy after the experience.

2. The second time I tried the rope technique and after climbing for ages I could feel one leg out, and a little bit of my upper torso was out but my mid waist was stuck and I felt really heavy....then I could feel a tickle in the middle if my back, and then my back felt all light - it was weird, but I still couldnt move, and eventually it all just faded until I was in my body again.

3. The third time I could feel my head slipping away and all of a sudden I could slowly move my head, and I could feel the matter of my physical body moving through my head as I moved - strange feeling. But that's as far as I got. As soon as I tried to move any other part of my body as well, I ended up moving my physical body and it was all over.

4. The fourth time my head came out again, but this time it was below my physical head, I know this because I could feel my breathing from my physical body blowing air on my face, so I must have been slightly below myself.

5. Last night I relaxed again, felt the floating sensation but couldn't see anything even though I tried. I felt really light and felt like I was all the way out and my head must of been out this time because I could hear the ticking of a clock in my room - but there is no clock. When I got out of bed today I went to my desk and realised my watch was on the desk but it has no ticking hand on it. So I put the watch up to my ear and I could hear it ticking very very quietly, however when my head was out of my body last night I could have sworn there was a clock on my desk ticking away - it seemed so loud, so my hearing senses had obviously been working outside of my body.

6. I have tried the rope technique - that's nothing but hard work. The ladder hasn't worked either. Picturing myself near the door looking back at myself has been a little bit better, but not the greatest sense. But what gives me the most amount of energy and buzzing is when I put music headphones on and raise my vibrational energy and picture myself flying....it is very clear when I do this and my body just feels like it is plugged into the power socket in the wall, but I am more concious of my body even though the flying seems a tiny bit real. I just haven't yet been able to "crack it open" and get fully out and fully concious of it. After trying all this and once I go to sleep I usually get a lucid dream or two which seem to go on forever as I slept in til lunch time today, and my dream felt like it went for hours. I am sick of dreaming though, I am aiming to do it fully concious.

Any help or suggestions?

Cheers
Justin

I need some sort of explanation. I had never experienced an OBE until just recently by "accident". It was a little weird but as real as today was and was crystal clear except for a few details of a conversation I had.

I went to sleep recently and all I remember is then being awake and walking through a door into a room which had a wall of fire all the way around it. It was a little dark in there and it was set up like a theatre, the seats were all bench seats made of stone and were very dirty and they stepped up like a stadium style seating about fifteen rows. There was a dirty stage at the front of the room, and it was made out of stone. The first thing I recognised is that this room was full of human souls, and the people in there were dark (almost black), and it was like they were in a trance, and I don't know how on earth I know this, but they were all waiting for something, like it was a waiting room for them to eventually be going somewhere.

The next thing I knew I was walking towards the stage and standing at the front on the stage there was this "entity" who had the face of an angel and he was about 9 feet tall with wings, he was very captivating to look at, but I could sense that there was more to this entity than meets the eye and I knew somehow that he was responsible for the trance the people were under.

He then proceeded to walk towards me and started telling me something (which I can't remember clearly) but I knew he was trying to decieve me with something and I can remember that my response to him was "I already know the truth, so I am not interested. I am not staying here, I just came to get my brother"

I then proceeded up the stairs and about five rows up I went to find a seat, when I went to sit down a human soul came up to me and was pretty rude and hostile telling me that I was trying to sit in his seat. For some reason I told him very abruptly that "I was not staying but was just here to get my brother, so get out of my way". Straight away he backed down and moved aside. I sat down and looked accross beside me and suddenly appeared a dark soul, and I knew that it was my brother Jesse (who is younger than me and is still alive - Thank God). So I called out his name and he turned into some sort of insect and then dissapeared, however I hung around a little bit longer to see what was happening in this room.

Next thing, all of a sudden the room filled up with a massive fir like it was a freight train coming through the place, and then I woke up. But the thing is, I have had dreams, and I have had lucid dreams, but nothing as real as this was. But all day the next day it was as if I had really been there, which I am sure I was because it was just as real if not more so than I am sitting here typing this message.

Any feedback or thoughts on what actually happened?