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If Manifestation is real then would there not be evidence of someone creating something and bringing it back from the astral or mental planes down to the physical?

Forgive my ignorance if this has already been done! And I don't wish to appear rude or demanding, but:

I feel I must humbly ask, can we not prove manifestation by putting a skilled AP'er into a sealed empty room and have him manifest Jewell's or light bulbs or astral swords or a flower or anything!!?? and that would prove Manifestation right there.

Furthermore, the price of a precious/rare commodity like Rubies for example is set by their scarcity and perceived value. If any human being were able to manifest a single small ruby it would be in his interest to do so, we would also see a decline in the price of rubies worldwide as this new Mental supply methodology became possible!


The fact these things have not been demonstrated proves De facto that Manifestation is either not possible or not manifestation (I.e a conjuring trick)

I wonder if anyone has considered this? and I would appreciate any kind feedback! - I don't want to be a nay-sayer I'd love to bring back some precious gems from the Astral! 

Hi Everyone,

ive been wondering for a while now, what does the Astral Energy level of forum members mean?

what is it for and how does one raise his/her Astral Energy?

Thanks!

Ah, just noticed the date..

It was a mistake, its meant to be July.. im going on holiday in October so it must have been on my mind when i posted!

Thanks for the reply!  i think it was a dream looking back because i didnt have waking like  consciousness  (ive had that before and i know how powerful and REAL it feels) but i must have transferred into my expanded energy body to do the jumping up and thrusting with my legs (energy body legs) .. its cool to feel sleep paralysis!

  Hi Everybody,

I have just recorded an experience i had last night in my dream diary,

I was on a raised hill with some big concrete slabs as steps leading down and a few grassy areas around.
All the air around me was filled with thick fog, i tried to look around for objects in the environment but i couldn't see more than an arms length in front of my face.
The next thing i knew i was diagonally face down lying on the steps. At a weird angle, i was finding it hard to get back up and get back into a normal position.

I then tried to move for real (I tried to move my physical arms and legs in bed to roll over) and i couldn't.. i tried again with a lot of effort but i couldn't move at all! I realised i must be in sleep paralysis so i tried blasting upwards with my astral legs, like i was jumping up like a rocket, and i could actually feel the sensation of me doing this! i managed to move up and out a little bit, perhaps six inches out of phase with my physical body but i remember nothing after this...


Does this sound like i was in a dream or an OBE when i was in the fog?

i originally thought it was a dream but it occurred to me that it might be an OBE because I'm reading Astral Dynamics and it says about vision problems that can be encountered, i didn't think to remedy the vision problem with a loud affirmation at the time unfortunately!

i would be very grateful for any feedback!

Ant

It might well sound lame..

but if you consider that these are experiences that would normally be nurtured and developed throughout youth in times long gone by; either through shamanic culture or other advanced yoga practices.

Sadly in today's society energetic and esoteric spiritual practices are largely neglegted in the west especially, which in my opinion accounts for the percieved extra effort to achieve say Kundalini activation as a goal.

A few nights back i had intense energy focussed in and around my head area

i thought it might be my third eye or crown chakra.. i heard loud vibrations and heard some distict astral noise.. that sounded totally real and convinving
but if i slightly broke my mellow trance i could hear nothing

the sensations were more intense and making me feel like i was physically vibration quite intensely in my head area.. shortly after this i was able to move energy around my body easily using Robert Bruces tactile awareness excercises that i had learned well beforehand.. no actual projection but it felt like i could have easily projected from this state.. it was only fear that stopped me.

I thought id share this, and would be very interested to hear if anyone else has had anything similar to me?

Ant =D

Hi Victoria.. congratulations!

What method did you use? and what happened in Your Astral Projection?

phantasy meditation ?? lol

Shellyhood, are you from Jersey?

Im 24!

i learned to Lucid Dream a good few years ago now.. i find myself in them spontaneously mostly or by using the MILD or definitely more effective WILD method for those that are well read in Stephen La Berge terminology! haha

has anyone had an undoubted high level astral experience that they can share?



*what i mean by high- level is, an experience that they might find themselves in conversation with an intelligently responding dream character of sensation of Flying and jumping in the air and being able to stay there?

Hi, I found this post which relates to the original question.

(source ----  http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=46009)

This is the experience of someone who did not provide their name. They are 16 years old and BODY WEIGHT:    120 lb
DOSE:     2 'bowls'    of smoked  Cannabis  (plant material)

he says:

"the more I talk to him [a friend he is smoking bowls with], the more I come to think that the things he is telling me is not just human communication, but there is a hidden meaning behind all of his words"
he has a smoke with other people but then goes to his grandmothers house to meditate

"I am into meditation, and I had vowed to myself the next time I used a drug I would meditate and try my hardest to have an oobe."

"my awareness became amazing, I had experienced it before, but sober is completely different than high, its that point in which you can perceive everything in the room, I know how far away the walls are and how far the end of the bed is from my body. Now keep in mind, about this point, my perception of time was heightened, basically its like a time warp where I can see every instance of time behind me, while the present one is at one end of the time warp. This continued until I got out of my body."

I am 24yrs old and can testify to experiencing the sensation i think he is alluding to when he says "I know how far away the walls are and how far the end of the bed is from my body"

Ive had experiences much the same (not using any substance) where my limbs also feel 'giant' compared to what they normally are.. and then can equally feel really tiny at the same time and it feels like i could almost reach out and touch a door or a wall that is (in real physical terms) too far to reach. In my mind tho as i focus on the sentation of my limbsit seems it would be easy to reach out and touch something very far away..

Has anyone else had any sensations like that?

Lol

"it's not cheating because your astral lover is in a different dimension.
When a person is on the astral that person can have as many astral lovers as he or she wants." - Qball

of course its like Road trip and the different area codes..

Hi hays1012, that sounds interesting, what kind of psychic experiences? what have you gleaned?

Ive recently been having some brilliant spontaneous moments of Lucidity in dreams.. that feel like theyre being converted to obe's when i can feel my body as the other body in the dream.. thats the only way i can describe the sensation of having to try so hard JUST to remain conscious or semi-conscious at best... focussing on parts of the dream/astral or potential astral exit transition in the 'Real-Time' zone so to speak.

Has anyone thought or experienced the astral in this way before?
if so id love to hear just for my own understanding of this exciting phenomenon in consciousness 

Now that you've had some Astral Experiences, do you think you would find it easier/quicker to exit now?
and if so how long would it take you from being fully awake?

Thanks!

Hi Karamize!

I'm also interested in Remote Viewing, ive heard quite a few radio interviews with the great Russel Targ

Hi I read in an information source about Yogi Bhajan (who introduced Kundalini Yoga to the West)
that 'The Energy of the kundalini is released from the Naval center'
i also read on here that it starts at the Root Chakra... could anyone clarify this for me? as to which chakra the Kundalini starts from?

Thanks!