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Q: Is evil eye & psychic attack really the same thing in so many different words?


http://jelleym.tripod.com/badluck/badluck.html">Bad Luck Murphy

I've had a lifetime of terrible timing, jinxacles, disharmony & illness (fibromyalgia). I remember even as a child, that my cheeks would kill me if I'd smile for a while at babies. That was extremely frustrating. I also had terrible stomach problems, terrible forms of laryngitis (if I'd even whisper the "M" or "N" sounds, it would feel like a knife through my throat & sinuses).

No child, teen, or adult should ever have been forced to endure what I have during childhood, adolescence or beyond. NOBODY except evil people deserve what was doled out to me.

I've also had people misguidedly misjudging me (or not hearing me clearly) on the basis of my misrepresentative voice which has always misrepresented my true meaning.

As if the above weren't enough, I've had negative synchronicity vis-a-vis people & circumstances. At various times in my life I've visited psychics who either mentioned that I was given an evil eye as a child, or else that I have bad luck, or else that an evil spirit resides in my house.

I've place cups of salt near my bed & computer area after reading a book by Judy Hall.

I'm non-hypnotizable (I've visited a hypnotherapist.) I'm a too-aware person to be hypnotizable.

During childhood I had the ability to enter a "daydream-like" trance when staring at lit candles, but even then, I'd feel self-conscious & sheepish about doing so, & I'd forcefully pull myself out of that state. During childhood I'd also see speckles continuously falling during the night when I'd be trying to fall asleep. I remember feeling mesmerized by them. I've lost that ability long ago, & I've also long since lost the ability to be able to visualize anything (including visualizing past experiences). I'm only able to remember in terms of "facts" rather than "visions".

My life has caused me to feel like the living dead who lost her "idealistic" soul long ago, & is thoroughly disillusioned by this world, & the experiences that some scapegoats are forced to endure.

http://jelleym.tripod.com/badluck/badluck.html">Bad Luck Murphy

quote:Originally posted by jkvoelk
I found it interesting to know that running water has an effect on them.

Actually, the concept of immersion in water from a live source isn't new, but thousands of years old. (Jewish laws of Mikvah. See this:
http://www.adatyeshurun.org/mikvah/

[none]

Y'know, this is a joke.

I've landed among people who talk at cross-purposes to each other.

What ever happened to non-judgmentalism?

Ever heard of the story of the blind men each of whom were touching a separate part of an elephant yet none of them were correct?

quote:Quoted by RB:
You believe you are under a curse, and even seem to embrace this. But curses can be lifted or eased. You need to find yourself an experienced shaman or white witch. You might like to Give Nita an email. See her nest of articles on my website.

I've already corresponded with Nita, so you can ask her her thoughts on all this. As for your term "embrace" that's judgmental coming from a guy who is touted as empathetic. If you'd read some of my other posts, you'd have seen that I already tried contacting a white witch, but received no response. That's the whole point. Anyone I've ever contacted for help has not come through for me. Again, you'll all probably believe what you choose to believe about me (perhaps because it's easier to be judgmental than to believe?) So be it, it's par for the course.

BTW, I've lost interest in this message board (disillusioned yet again, for the thousand & umpteenth time)

http://jelleym.tripod.com/badluck/badluck.html">Bad Luck Murphy

Inguma, uh, I may contact you.

As to the rest:

I have been simultaneously a simple & complex person my whole life.

I've been a simpleton with respect to matters which interest others: Facts (which are often "illusions" dressed as "facts"), finance, luxuries.

I've been complex in the respect that, since childhood, I'd always be sort of deeper thinking - the type to have fantasies, ideas, hunches, and to figure out the end of a story before someone would say it (NOT via PSI which I lacked, but rather on the basis of the story's content, from which I'd cull various facts & put 2 & 2 together).

I also never really had a grasp of humanity's baser nature until the past decade or so, especially the advent of Internet, though I was often capable (as some people were not) of understanding that others' tendencies are often based upon their physical abilities or limitations (or environmental upbringing) whatever the case may have been.

So, as you can see, I've always more or less known myself.

But all of you don't really know me, nor the sum total of my experiences, yet you've been offering advice.

How on earth can I be expected to respond, then? It would be too frustrating. Some things are beyond the scope of words especially on a public forum. So I hope y'all understand why I'm declining to respond individually. Thanks, & especially thanks to those of you who answered supportively & non-judgmentally!

P.S. Now, if there were a soulpalfinder site available (modelled on my demo site) that might be another matter, cuz I'd recognize a true soulpal if I'd "see" one. If one exists, that is!

http://jelleym.tripod.com/badluck/badluck.html">Bad Luck Murphy

Edited by - Murphy on 03 March 2002  03:03:35

[outside myself]

quote:Quoted by Robert Bruce:
Living a good spiritually practicing life is a very good way of reducing one's attractiveness to negs in general. It is not a perfect solution, but it really does help.

As a child, I lived a good, spiritually practicing life.
As a child, a curse was cast on me which had repercussions for the rest of my life to this day (so I was told by various seers at separate times and places).

So perhaps I fit into the category of "non-serious evil-spirit problems".

After all, I've never been physically bounced around.

It seems as if the evil spirits manipulate things outside myself (such as circumstances & people & interfering with communications) as pawns against me, causing such stress as to aggravate my predisposition to genetic chronic conditions.

http://jelleym.tripod.com/badluck/badluck.html">Bad Luck Murphy

[because John Doe was chosen as a tool for evil BECAUSE he's an evil-doer]

quote:Quoted by Joe:
If I go and attack someone psychically, I shouldn't incur bad karma if they karmically "deserved it".

If John Doe attacks someone psychically
because John Doe was chosen as a tool for evil BECAUSE he's an evil-doer
Then (logic would dictate) he should incur bad karma (perhaps at the "End of Days" as they say??)


http://jelleym.tripod.com/badluck/badluck.html">Bad Luck Murphy

[To Fastwalker]

To Fastwalker

Put it this way:

I'm in your ballpark with respect to the issues of possible negativity in certain bodies of water (such as the Fire Island guy and also noxious veins)

However, I don't agree with your viewpoint on the issues of accepting the way this world is.

In fact you mentioned that we come from different belief systems. True. My belief system is based on a combination of my own diabolic experiences, and senseless happenings I observe in the world, which I can in no way attribute to karma.

I think it may be true that some things have karmic explanations, but that many others can only be the result of evil forces allowed to be unleashed carte blanche.

http://jelleym.tripod.com/badluck/badluck.html">Bad Luck Murphy

[tried]

Attn. Inguma (Rob)

(by the way, thanks for your listening ear!)

In response to what you said:

I'm nowhere near being able to astrally project. I'm like at the other end of the pole.

One seer had mentioned that "everything is closed off to me" (whatever that meant). He had also clenched his fists and was vibrating (as if fighting against something).

A number of them seemed scared (as if they were able to see something scary beyond my shoulder that was invisible to me).

I've tried contacting Evelyn Paglini (she gave out her email address on Art Bell) but she never responded to my email.

So you see? I tried to get help - but no dice.

In fact, one of the numerous diabolical aspects of my luck is that nobody gets back to me (as if my communications are tampered with).

Furthermore, most of the time, the ones who do respond to me are either imbeciles, or else argumentative, non-empathetic types (who use sophistication as a weapon). It's as if the goal of my invisible torturer(s) is to deplete my energy & disillusion me.


P.S. Regarding what you said about RB responding, that's up to him. Thus far, he hasn't responded to any of my posts, perhaps because they're outside his realm. Perhaps for some other reason? who knows?

http://jelleym.tripod.com/badluck/badluck.html">Bad Luck Murphy

Edited by - Murphy on 01 March 2002  03:22:51

[no way]

I personally don't enjoy convoluted, complex, debates.
Nor do they impress me.
I don't enjoy a world that's a battleground of challenges.
Nor do they impress me.

I rather enjoy simple truths, and an evil-free world.

I would much rather become (to quote Robert Bruce):

quote:a race of bleating sheep sitting in lush meadows, watching the world go by

Furthermore, while many a story has been written "proving" the idea of Karma (such as those by Dr. Brian Weiss)

yet

my own experiences have disproven it. Because there's no way that all the many, detailed subtle manipulative nuances which my life consisted of including complex tortures involving hi-tech can be attributed to karma.

NO WAY

http://jelleym.tripod.com/badluck/badluck.html">Bad Luck Murphy

Other questions (besides fastwalkers' question about jacuzzi's) are these:

What about rain? thunderstorms? etc.

What about storms at sea which have caused shipwrecks?

What about noxious veins underground at spots where many car accidents were known to have occurred?

http://jelleym.tripod.com/badluck/badluck.html">Bad Luck Murphy

Inguma, it looks like you're the only one on-target with respect to my situation. I mean, WingedWolf is talking as though I'm psychic or have psychokinesis or something. Why are people so quick to draw conclusions?

His theory might explain why something happens simultaneous to thinking it, or why electronics might go haywire. It does NOT explain bad luck such as:
JUST in the week when I'm due to go somewhere, that's when something I'd been looking for for years in the classifieds becomes available, causing frustration. And people never getting back to me. And buses or grocery vans not showing up ONLY at the times I'm waiting for them (as I know cuz I verify from bystanders that "this has never happened before - it's the first time") while those bystanders (at separate times & places of course) don't realize that I might as well be hearing a tape recording of what I'd heard countless times before.

Regarding what you said about finding out who gave me the curse & why, one of the seers had told me I was given the evil eye as an 8-year old child, but absolutely refused to divulge any more info other than the fact that it was a young woman who gave it to me. He said it's forbidden for him to divulge the info. (I noticed that he had the ability to roll his eyes until they disappeared & only the whites of his eyes showed.)

It infuriates me that the bad people (in this case the curser) win against their victims. Joe was right for asking "where's the angelic defense?"

Since I'm not psychic, I can't access the akashic records.

I wonder why there isn't ONE website which advises people how to deal with long-standing curses that had been given them as a child? Or is there? (Is there a way to negate long-standing curses without resorting to witchcraft - which I'm wary of?) Also note that I had been told by separate seers at separate times & places that there's a negative spirit in my house.

P.S. So I guess curses & evil eye are one & the same? correct?
I.E. curses are evil eyes
BUT psychic attack is neither a curse nor an evil eye?

(I realize that this is just a matter of semantics, of course.)

http://jelleym.tripod.com/badluck/badluck.html">Bad Luck Murphy

[love]

Joe, I love your post, it's so on target! I'm glad someone finally spoke up, as I had been ready to point out the Emperor's "clothes".

I think that fastwalker is missing the point by quoting his dad "if you want good in the world do good".

The whole point is that life is an unfair race of powerless good people/entities against powerful bad people/entities.

People who wish to do good are impeded by the dark side
while the angels fail to come to the rescue.

Why not allow the good side to be more powerful than the bad side?

In my site, I mention the type of "fantasy world" I would live in if I had a choice - which I don't.

http://jelleym.tripod.com/badluck/badluck.html">Bad Luck Murphy

Edited by - Murphy on 28 February 2002  03:45:42

I don't follow.

I was told by totally separate seers at at different times and places, that I was given an evil eye as a child.

The way I understand it, people with the power to cast an evil eye are often unaware of their power, & do so unwittingly by feeling resentment or jealousy at any given time.

Children are supposed to be particularly vulnerable.

Indeed, since childhood I've suffered unusually uncanny & too-overstimulating jinxacles involving precision-timing working against me. Either NO action or tons of action. It wouldn't just rain, but also pour - in spades. Countless, endless times.

The jinxacles took a terrible toll on my life in terms of stress. (in addition to all sorts of genetically inherited chronic conditions, probably triggered prematurely by stress.)

Everyone keeps talking of psychic attack in terms of satanism & possession, without acknowledging those in society who've had the above type of manifestations.

And you better believe, I'm not the only one. A number of people have contacted me that they have had similar experiences as myself.

http://jelleym.tripod.com/badluck/badluck.html">Bad Luck Murphy

quote: The volume and speed of running water are certainly important factors. This is why, if crossing a garden hose fails, crossing a large water main will usually do the trick and break the neg attack.

A couple of years ago, I was in a boat crossing under Niagara Falls, with the water really spraying me. Everyone was given these weird blue plastic hooded protective "rain-gear"

But yet my jinxacle-patterned life continues to this day.

http://jelleym.tripod.com/badluck/badluck.html">Bad Luck Murphy

Pete, I have found Dead Sea black mud to feel more healing to my muscles than any mineral baths.

And you better believe, that mud was not moving let alone water!

http://jelleym.tripod.com/badluck/badluck.html">Bad Luck Murphy

Winged Wolf, I don't think it's that simple, as M.Scott Peck and [now-deceased] Malachi Martin might have told you.

Have you ever read People Of The Lie by M.Scott Peck?

http://jelleym.tripod.com/badluck/badluck.html">Bad Luck Murphy

Fastwalker, you've got a point.

I read this non-fiction paperback about some guys who were fooling around with a Ouija board on Fire Island (Long Island).

The author wrote that while he wasn't as susceptible as his "wimpy" friend to becoming possessed, nevertheless, there were entities which tried to harm him. He described how he was driving along the East River (I believe) when some force at the East River tried to get the car to swerve; also once when he was in the water, he felt himself being pulled under by a powerful entity.

I also wonder about the idea of noxious veins that supposedly are responsible for many traffic accidents & how this ties into the overall picture.

http://jelleym.tripod.com/badluck/badluck.html">Bad Luck Murphy

What about the various noxious veins that are supposed to be under the earth in various spots, and which cause traffic accidents, etc.?

Is there any connection between those, and between the idea of running water harming negs?

I wonder if negs would be harmed by noxious veins.

http://jelleym.tripod.com/badluck/badluck.html">Bad Luck Murphy

I have had a bad-luck life & have learned what it's like to be dominated by overbearing family members who are addicted to saying "No" (irrationally, I might add).

It's important not to let yourself get embroiled in arguments with either imbecilic or overbearing people, since they're so obstinate, that they always "win". (Note: they "win" according to the standards of this false world, but in the final analysis, they're really losers because of the destruction they wreak on their environments.)

I've learned that the only way to feel somewhat good about oneself, is to try & accomplish positive goals (no matter how minor, & believe me, with my terrible luck, ill-health & non-spectacular talents, my accomplishments are quite minor as compared to others').

Don't ever let others measure you according to their yardstick, and also don't ever measure yourself by society's yardsticks. That will only make you feel bad about yourself. The main thing is, to know that you tried doing something positive at least once a day (or once a week - or once every 2 weeks, etc. etc.)

http://jelleym.tripod.com/badluck/badluck.html">Bad Luck Murphy