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Lately, I've been having these very short projections where I (think) I am just above my body but I am having a hard time seeing so I consciously lift my "hand" up and rub my eyes and then I can sort of see but I become too aware and then my awareness flips back and forth from my sleeping body and ultimately I wake up. Does anyone else ever have this problem? Do you also just rub your eyes with your "astral" hand? Sometimes they are so short I cant tell if it's a dream or a projection.

I've noticed lately that i keep getting very strong loud sensations of projections followed by major sleep paralyzation when my upper body isnt covered up or is cold. I really have no clue why this would happen?

Not that long ago, i posted this...

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4256


The main part that I want to ask about is the smoke... this is the reason...

Last night I layed down to go to sleep and not more than 15 minutes into it, i started getting the LOUD sounds of projecting but they happened while i was dreaming. in my dream, there was insence burning. which is weird because just before i went to bed i lit half of one that was burning earlier. it was falling all over my bookbag that was in a box. i tried to catch it and then all of a sudden a TON of smoke poured OUT of my mouth i then became lucid and thought of projecting.

i then felt like i was no longer in my body but i had very bad vision. everything was in a fuzzy circle like thing and i felt as if i was moving at a very fast pace but i also felt like i was twisting around, i couldnt really see but i remember feeling like i had pants on and they were being pulled all over the place at the waist and the spot kept changing so that made it feel like i was twisting around. I then got VERY STRONG sensations as i came back to my body, and i was paralyzed for a short period of time. i eventually scratched my finger enough to get out of it. everytime this happens, it feels as if i'm supposed to go back out but i dont want to so i force myself to wake up.

any thoughts?

I've had spontaneous obe sensations since i was a child. For years though, I did not have them. Now that I have found out what they are and am familiar with the sensations, I am able to analyze them a little better than before.

last night, something happened that hasnt happened for a while yet it brought back memories of it happening all the time when i was a child... shortly after i go to sleep, (usually when my upper body is cold for some reason) i will have exit sensations. I fought them off as a child and was successful in doing so. Now, i'm able to use those sensations (when they occur which is rare) to actually exit my body. However, sometimes (last night) i will have the sensations and they will be followed by a LOUD ringing in my ears which frightens me. sometimes that is accompanied by sleep paralysis which i hate. Anyways, last night this happened and while it was happening, i became completely conscious of it happening so i tried to just focus on my breathing and sort of meditate while lying there. i then awoke and STILL heard the loud ringing in my ears along with my heart beating rapidly.

I'm just curious as to what this may be and if anyone else has any experience with it.

Thanks

I was just wondering if anyone knows of any good movies that deal with subjects we are all interested in. the only ones that come close that i can think of are Donnie Darko and Waking Life. Two of my favorite movies. Any others?

Not really sure how to explain this or if it's even the right place to post it. It's probably nothing but I was hoping i could get some sort of an explination about this. I was just outside looking at the sky (daytime) and I noticed a ton of white sparkling dots when i sort of focused on the sky, somewhat straining my eyes. I could actually really focus and see many of them and then a flock of geese flew overhead and i swear i saw another sort of transparent goose flying right with the "v" but it wasnt actually there? This is probably a stupid question but I just want an explination so i'm not left wondering.

well yesterday while napping, i started to have projection symptoms and astral sight. for some reason, the first thing i thought of was to ask to meet my spirit guide because i've read numerous things about people asking for their spirit guides and weird things happening or whatever.

anyways, i started to see a swirl like thing on the wall i was facing and i said "i want to see my spirit guide" then i said please dont hurt me becuase for some reason i felt scared all of a sudden. then i saw what appeared to be smoke right in front of my projected double and heard the words "this is a test" spoken and then i felt as if i inhaled the smoke and it went into my projected double. soooo i have no clue what that was all about.


the beginning of this year, i became a vegetarian and i havent smoked pot or anything really for that matter in like 2 and a half years. a friend of mine has a feeling it has something to do with the fact that i now live that sort of lifestyle and this was some sort of a test to see if i could overcome this fear as well as everything else?

i dont know, any thoughts???

One day, i had a discussion with my dad about astral projection (actually asking him if he was doing something that i saw while i floated into his room... he was) so anyways, we started talking and he didnt seem surprised at all at this and he went on to tell me some things that i didnt know about my family.
 he told me that when my mother was giving birth to both my brother and i, she spoke in tongues both times. he also said that there were many times while he was growing up that he would be driving or doing nothing out of the ordinary and he would feel what he described as a "whelling" up in his chest and then he would blurt something out in tongues. he went to see a priest or something about it and recalled a phrase that he spoke and the priest translated it to something like "God Lord Almighty" or something of that nature.

  I was just wondering if anyone has any information on this phenomenon and what it may possibly mean?

Mike

I had a month period where I was having spontaneous projections on and off throughout the weeks.
 Today about two months since that, I just experienced my latest spontaneous projection. There were two things however that were totally different than anything I've ever experienced before.
 First I realized that I was going to project because of the "white noise" i felt in my head etc... (i no longer get vibrations really because i've had them since i was a child, maybe i'm just used to them or something? i dont know) anyways, so i started to project and I swear i heard a voice say (very cheerfully i might add) MORNING!!! but it was like 2.30 in the afternoon and I was just taking a nap. that freaked me out and then to add to it i felt some sort of weird crawling feeling on my stomach (i think in my real time body) and i tried to "scratch" it away with my real time hand. hahah yeah this was sort of confusing for me but then it just got more weird.
 as soon as i went back to my body after being freaked out, i immediately projected again. it was like i wasnt supposed to go back to my body. this isnt the first time this has happened. anyways, i wanted to go to my hometown but ended up sort of floating away from my bed and found myself in some weird room with this like dark wooden arch thing? i was laying on the ground i think but i could see it and the rest of the room was white. i then got sort of scared and started to close my real time eyes. then i returned to my body (i hope).
   

Whew
Mike

When I meditate sometimes (I only have been regularly for the past like 2 weeks) I open my eyes and it's sort of like a strobe light effect (when it's dark in the room). Also, sometimes i'll see blue light while meditating. In Astral Dynamics, there is a short section about the "strobe effect". I know here he is talking about how the strobe effect may come during conscious AP's, and he goes on to say that it can possibly be the potential for clairvoyance (this too has happened to me before, seeing the strobe while trying to project that is). Anyways, does this happen to everyone? What does it mean?

Does it make anyone else sick just to try and comprehend why someone would want to create a "weapon of mass destruction". Seriously, what is the logic behind that idea? Bombs that can blow the world up more than once... wow i love those figures, that's like saying "You're getting 95 life sentances" ehhh ok? does that mean whenever you are reincarnated you have to go directly to jail do not pass go do not collect $200? ok back to the original idea, Why in the HELL would someone want to create weapons that would kill everyone? INCLUDING THE MORON THAT CREATED IT TO BEGIN WITH!!!!!! i'm so mad. yeah i know very little about history so someone please enlighten me as to why someone decided this would be a good idea. Did it start around the time of Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Guess i dont care as much about the history as I would like people to just freaking agree with me so i feel better. I'd also like to know why I'm up at 3 AM rambling about nonsense. k bye

OK.. so lately i've been having many more spontaneous OBE's and usually they last a few minutes but they only occur right in my room or within the physical area that I am in. I float around a little bit and then end up going back to my body. However, one time, I had an OBE and the first thing i thought of was to go to my house (i'm in my dorm) or to my girlfriends house. I started getting the feeling of being whisked away through the window in my dorm and i ended up in my old house that i lived in about 6 years ago. that was the house i was having the majority of my vibrations/sleep paralysis when i was younger. I dont know if it had anything to do with this but i didnt even think that i wanted to go there and i was there... my question is: How do you "will" yourself to travel to a certain location? is it not as easy as simply focusing on that location?

one more thing about that: would you still be in the RTZ if you were say across the country? or would that be the astral field? guess i'm confused on that as well someone help me out!

- Mike

right after i made that last post... i went to take a nap. I'm back at my dorm now and when i started napping, i started to dream. i remember one part of the dream and that was that i was watching TV with my brother. I then became lucid and consciously thought of projecting while i was in the dream. next thing i knew, i was back in my dorm room. i felt my legs start to rise first and then i rolled off my bed (which is about 7 feet in the air so that wouldve stunk if i really rolled off). the first thing i thought of was finding my spirit guide but i dont think i'm ready for that since this is all happening spontaneously. i also thought of negative entities but then i got scared so i said (and i actually heard this in my mind) "no i'm ok, no i'm ok". i floated in one secion of my room and then attempted to go to the room above me. i did have a hard time going through the ceiling this time so i came back to my room and tried to go to the room on the side of me. all of a sudden i wasnt really able to control and i started moving faster and i was in some room, that i believe is here in my dorm, and a girl was sitting on a futon talking on the phone i think. i reached my arm out and tried to touch her (first thing i tried to touch was her breast, then i thought what am i doing so i moved to her hair). nothing really happened and i started feeling pressure in my neck. someone please tell me what's going on. i never have all of these spontaneous sensations in such a short period of time and now i'm becoming so much more conscious of them. i dont know if this is a good thing but i think it is?  

- mike

The other morning, I woke up and got a glass of juice and then went back to bed... i had a hard time falling back asleep but finally did. a couple hours later, i started getting the sensations of falling and the "white noise" in my head (this was completely spontaneous). I was then able to realize what was going on and consciously exit my body. i rolled off my bed (not in the physical form obviously) and started floating around my room but it was too dark so i thought hey i'll go out in the hallway... my door was shut and i've read some places that it's sort of hard to get through solid objects but i just went right through it like it wasnt even there and i was in my hallway. i saw a blinking light that was from my smoke detector inbetween my brother and my room (i had totally forgotten that we even had one out there). and then i went down to my dad's room. he was by his window looking at something that he was holding and then i sort of got freaked out and became very aware of my body so i returned to it and felt the sensations of being "sucked" back into my body.



i then went to find my dad to talk to him about what had happened and asked him if he was in his room looking at something. sure enough he was over there looking at a reciept about 3-5 minutes before. he didnt seem surprised and told me somethings that shocked me a little. he told me that my mom spoke in tongues when she was birthing my brother and i. he also told me that he would speak in tongues randomly while he would be driving and he saw someone about it and they translated something he said to "Lord, Lord, God Almighty" or something like that. he said that one night he got a "whelling" up in his chest and he had a vision of a long brown haired man in a white cloak (jesus maybe) he also said that he witnessed the crucifiction and that it was far more violent/bloody than ever portrayed. if anyone has any information on any of this let me know!
- mike

I just recently saw the movie/documentary by Michael Moore "Bowling For Columbine". It has to be in my top 3 favorite movies now... I agreed with every single point about Americans and fear/gun control I thought the movie was well done, the interviews were humerous at times and the points made were valid and shocking. I apologize if anyone has already had a post on about this movie because I know it's been out since October but I was just wondering if anyone has seen it and what they thought of it?

I've had a discussion with my friends a few times about the possibility that the monks that meditate all day long and only eat rice like once a day are possibly projecting and fighting spiritual wars that may actually save our lives in various aspects... i was just wondering if anyone had any thoughts on that or if anyone has any evidence of this or websites?

I was just glancing through some posts and I saw that someone had read a book by  Aurther Edward Powell and I decided to look on amazon.com to see what kinds of books he wrote... After reading something, I realized that I would like to find a book that deals more with what the astral body actually is (philosophically maybe?) instead of all of the modern books that are more "how to". I've read AD and I love it dont get me wrong but I was just hoping to find a book that discusses more of the actual question "what is this other body"...

Anyways, I was looking through Aurther Powell's books and check this out... look at the review towards the bottom of the page supposedly by his daughter, it's somewhat humerous...

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0835600750/ref=pd_sim_books_1/002-4210942-8536051?v=glance&s=books

i think she needs a visit to this site and maybe then she wont think it's complete "balderdash"

oh and if anyone has any good suggestions that fit my discription of a book I'm looking for, let me know.

The other night, I experienced another spontaneous projection yet I was laying on my stomach. It occurred just as I started to fall asleep and it was very short... the main thing i remember is that my (real-time) body was facing down just like my sleeping physical body. I was wondering if this has ever happened to anyone?

Hi,
Lately I've bee having this problem which I feel is most likely due to the fact that I'm reading much more about the subject now than ever. Well first of all let me start by saying I've never actually consciously had a projection aside from possible ones as a child when I suffered from sleep paralysis for a long period of time. Anyways, if I just try and go to bed, I'll fall asleep, and lately, I've been having dreams about projecting. How do I know these are just dreams? Well, I'll be sleeping (in my dream) in a totally different location. Secondly it just doesnt feel like I'm out of my  body, it feels more like I'm dreaming about being out of my body and then taking things I've read and putting them to use (for instance when it just happened to me during my nap, I tried going through a wall where i was and nothing happened). So basically my question is, is this phenomenon normal and if so how can I differentiate when I maybe say woke up in the middle of a projection as supposed to had a lucid dream of projecting? Someone please help.

Hi everyone,
  My name is Mike. I'm new to this post yet old to experiencing OBE's. (Well kind of). When I was young, I would always have (what i thought) were terrible nightmares where I would be paralyzed in my bed and then feel a strong presence floating directly to my upper right area. Sometimes, I would find myself just above my body but I never actually would be looking down upon myself. I am now aware of what I think these sensations were thanks to a friend who is very interested in the topic and introduced me to it last year. I am about halfway through Astral Dynamics and am enjoying it! I am now having difficulties projecting yet I still have the symptoms (vibrations, racing heart beat etc...)
  One of my questions is this... If I am successfully projecting but unsuccessfully making what Robert refers to as the "Mind-Split" does anyone have any suggestions to the best techniques that work for them to make this split?
    Secondly, I would like to note that sometimes while attempting to project or enter a trance state in bed, I will all of a sudden feel as if I'm starting to fall asleep and then I'll see a strobe light effect while my eyes are closed (I read about this on page 185 but I am just now working with NEW so I was unsure as to why this would happen when I really haven't worked with my energy that much). One time I actually opened my eyes when I saw this strobe like light and it was still there when I opened my eyes. Any ideas?
    I apologize for the lenghthy post but I just wanted to introduce myself and give you some questions to help me with... Thank you in advance!

I've really enjoyed studying buddhism over the past couple years. I look at it more as a philosophy as opposed to a religion. I find that some books will refer to buddha as "Lord Buddha" which i do not do. If you do any searches on the four noble truths and then read the eight fold path, you can get a good idea as to what the philosophy of Buddhism really is about.

In regards to the spirituality of the religions, I think Buddhism is found within the self (as well as Hinduism) but with Hinduism, there are gods and goddesses (vishnu shiva krishna etc...) I met a Hindu on my campus who was handing out copies of the Bhagavad Gita which to my understanding is the philosophical book of Hinduism (much like their bible) he explained that his form of hinduism was a branch of it much like christians have methodist, baptist, catholic (if you still agree catholisim is christian haha). Anyway, i think they are in fact very similar. They are both accepting of other religions so if you are Christian and you would like to study hinduism or buddhism you can do so without feeling like you are doing something wrong.

i guess i would call myself a Buddhist christian??? i dont know i'm lost. [V]

It's weird, I used to have them spontaneously as a child (vibrations and noises) but never knew what was going on, then they went away and all of a sudden came back about 10 years later when I found out about Astral Projection. Now they just happen every once in a while. Usually they start out spontaneously and then I take over control for a little bit until I wake up or it gets mixed with a dream.

Rusty, i think mike is referring to chakra blockages.

Just out of curiosity, when else can you see these vortex? The reason I ask is because one time when I was out of body, I was floating just above my body and I asked to see my sprit guide which I have never done before. What appeared to be a vortex showed up on the wall in front of me and then all of a sudden, I heard (or so i thought) the words "this is a test" and then a ton of smoke was right in front of my face and i was forced to inhale it, through my real time body.

a few months later, I had a dream after lighting an incense before i went to bed that there was a giant incense burning and it was dropping ash into a box. I ran over to it to stop it and then I exhaled a TON of smoke. I then became lucid and started flying through the air through what almost appeard to be a vortex? It was as if everything on the outside was really fuzzy and the middle was a little more clear but still not cohearent. I felt as if i were flying forward and being twisted at the same time.

I figured maybe you guys would have some ideas as to what this was that happened to me? This was almost a year ago.

Waking life is one of my favorite movies, i actually own the DVD. I just love it that i can watch it over and over again and still pick up new information that i hadn't noticed previously. There are so many concepts packed into the movie yet they are all transitioned nicely in my opinion. The visuals make the movie though, It was cool how Linklater decided to have the film drawn over top of instead of keeping it in its original traditional style camera filming.

Another cool movie that deals with spirits, is called Spirited Away. It's a Disney movie but dont let that distract you. It's a very fascinating movie as are all of Mayazaki's films. Check it out!

I'm a 20 year old male and I have had the same girlfriend for about 3 years. We do not have intercourse and I am still a virgin, but we do partake in forms of sodomy (no anal). When I have an orgasm (which i have been able to separate from my ejaculation about 3 times (soooo hard to do especially considering the fact that I've never really studied tantric sex, I just heard about it and tried it, it's all a mental thing)) anyways, when I have an orgasm, sometimes I am able to get the same sensation that I get when I do energy work at night and move a point around my body. I can actually move the physical part of the orgasmic feelings all around my body and also make them last longer than normal sometimes.

I dont really see this as losing a vast amount of energy, I actually think it's possibly just another way to practice a different kind of energy work (sexual energy). Who knows. I haven't really read the majority of this post so maybe you already covered this but I figured I'd just share my thoughts on the subject.