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Hmm that makes a lot of sense I have NEVER tried to project or visualize myself anywhere except ( inside my own body ) like trying to lift up or being right there near my body because I'm so compelled to try and see my sleeping body after hearing people say they have so many times .

I will try to move away from my body next time it happens.  I put sugar back into my diet the other day as well as eating more fatty foods and the repercussions on my mental, physical, and spiritual self are horrid. As much as I love sugar and fatty foods. I think I might be giving most of them up forever... Cutting them out of my diet really helped me get all the close to projections lately I believe.

Thanks for the positive feedback...

So if I do happen to project what should i do? should i stay away from my body? is it ok to look? should i go someplace in particular?

Ya. I am excited to try again tomorrow morning. My dog tends to wake me up around the same time each morning to go outside. However My son is spending the night tonight so it complicates things a little bit!  hes a good kid though so i might have to wait another night.

I have been thinking about it all day though. it is always fun in the process and I always regret not doing X,Y, or Z at the time its happening.

when I feel the heavy resistance I can't see anything either. I feel like i am trapped in the room and its pitch black. I can also still feel my physical body and WOULD be able to move it had i tried to.

I will try again tonight. I really think my diet and overall happiness has played a large part on my failures.

So The last few months I have more or less given up actively trying to project due to poor results at best. I have been working on projecting for about 10 years now with literally a 99.99% fail rate. I have never left my body other than on one rare occasion that I actually broke free and was so amazed I honestly thought I really just woke up and threw myself out of my bed on accident.

anyways The last few months I have noticed I have had a lot of bad dreams. Or dreams that have disturbing elements in them. The Recurring theme is I am dead, or pretending to be to avoid some kind of fear or harm.

On every occasion in my dream that I " play dead " or think I am dying I feel a strange numbness come over my dream body that steadily turns into vibrations. I feel them get stronger and stronger and then nothing ( on most occasions )

However sometimes I am able to kinda, pull away I guess. I feel like i'm  more or less trying to swim against a cruise liner propeller. It feels like heavy resistance in water. It is a rather weird feeling and I am yet to beat the current that is pushing/pulling me back. I usually run out of " energy " and I am pulled back.

This morning my dog woke me up early to take him out to the bathroom at about 7:20 am...  about an hour and a half earlier than I would like to get up. I let him out and then came back to my room and laid down on my stomach. I got comfortable and thought " what the heck why not try " I tried to stay as conscious as  I could, just playing out my dreams in my mind how I wanted them to happen.  In passing I fantasized fighting and falling to the ground ( to the position I was laying on ) in that moment I felt the strange vibration. It came lightly became more intense and then faded. I thought to myself, no come back. and " willed " them back. I got a second wave of vibrations  which was amazing to me that it even happened a second time!

The way I brought them back was imagining I was grabbing a string of 550 cord ( military term, its just a really strong piece of small rope ) and pulling myself away from my body. The vibrations intensified as I imagined pulling... however I witnessed a soreness or pain in my lower back right in the lumbar. I am very sure this pain was not physical due to it passing when the vibrations did, and hurting more so when the vibrations intensified. I am unsure if it was my position ( on my stomach ) or if one of my chakras is not doing so well which would be totally possible.

Changes in life lately:
Cleaned up my diet
Better sleep
Sitting too much - sore neck/ upper back ( might be related to pain during vibrations )
Lost 10 pounds
cut sugar down to 100g or less a day * this is actually not that much sugar compared to the average american diet... *
cut out most caffeine.

I had been heavily addicted to caffeine and sugar. My diet was poor and so was my mood. I have suffered ptsd, depression with dysthymia, head trauma that has resulted in brain atrophy, as well as just normal daily stress.

I have cleaned up most of my afflictions ( diet wise ) and have seen an improvement with my overall depression since i have started to lose some weight.

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I was wondering what others thought about this strange occurrence with the idea of using death as a gate to leave the body. I guess to me it just makes sense... I was raised christian and think of the soul leaving the body as I die. I suppose if it works there is no harm in it, but was curious if others have such weird  ways of exiting. Also curious as to if anyone has experienced changes in diet having heavy impact.

So I have been attempting astral projection/obe for almost 10 years not off and on for months at a time. The closest i ever come is the exiting part. I am either stuck and cant see anything ( only feel the sensation and resistance ) or I can see and i am rubberbanding back to my body over and over.

Lately however I cannot even reach this point. Every time I have gotten to this point i am on the verge of falling asleep. However I am unable to fall asleep on my back anymore.

does anyone have these problems?
Do I have to be very close to sleep to project?
I never feel sleep paralysis unless i am on the verge of sleep any tips?

I am cutting caffeine out of my diet completely too. I have found over the last few months that caffeine has taken away my ability to rach any vibrations and or projection at all. When it was out of my system I had a near OBE, but since its been back in my system i have been unable. Maybe its unrelated but it wont hurt to cut it out anyways.. lol

Sorry to Necro an old thread but I felt it would be better to contribute to this one rather than start another of hte same Topic. I am going on being awake for about 24 hours now. I feel super... uh.. tired? but im not. I feel spacey.. Im going to try to AP tonight while feeling like this to see if it makes any difference.

I will post in the morning

I just wanna say your post gave me a good laugh when mentioning grabbing the carpet. My first time projecting my head was stuck inside my physical and i flaled around like a lunatic trying to break free. My sister was playing the sims next to me and try as i might I could not break free.

when i woke up i looked at her and said " did i move? " she didn't even look away from the pc and said " nope " Lol i just laid down and thought to myself ... well that was weird...

hello,

I have been doing meditation and trying to project for almost a decade now so don't fret over little things   you are at the same point I am. I have never gotten over the hump really. I lay and meditate just as you say you do and I never experience paralysis when meditating.

I wont lie but I am starting to think I am " Too" awake.  The few times I have almost projected was after falling asleep slightly. Being so borderline asleep that I begin to dream but I am still slightly conscious. Or I fall asleep meditating and wake up and decide I will project.

for me its really a fine line between waking up and being awake. For me once i get up its done theres nothing I can do any even if i am awake enough to roll over and think about whats going on its usually too late.

I posted in the other section ( out of body experiences ) about a dream i had and it seemed to trigger something in me. I dreamt i was killed by hitting a rock in a river. I woke up but was still kinda playing out the dream in my mind. I decided to go with it and in my dream i could see myself dead on a stretcher and it concreted in my mind that my body was over there and i was over here kinda deal.

suddenly my dream went black and i was fully awake and tingling. there was no sound associated that i remember. But i felt like i couldn't move.. but i could.. my physical body was dead still. but i could move my astral arms.. i could feel it. When i reached up it felt like i was pushing against a strong wind... I wont go any farther cuz i dont wanna hi-jack your post...

In short. try sleeping first then meditate. It seems to get me a lot farther then meditating before sleep. I end up getting irritated after an hour of deep trance. When you truly feel it, you will know. there is no mistake and you will be able to move freely without fear of moving your body.

For me i seem to get the most results when i take naps in the late afternoon ( also avoiding caffeine has helped me )not sure why.

Too add to this, I just noticed a change in my diet that may have contributed to this. I haven't had caffeine in 2 days and im addicted!

Also when I was reaching up with my hands it felt like I was moving really fast or was being met with some kind of strange resistance like I was trying to swim through the air or something. Is that normal ? lol it has always been my experience in the past when separating it feels like im trying to walk against the wind in a wind tunnel.

So the last few nights (and naps ) I've had strange dreams that are very vivid and sadly I lack control in them or this would be much easier! However today I was taking a nap and I was having a strange dream that I was trying to cross a bridge with a group of people. The Bridge was unsteady and probably condemned.

I was hooked up to a harness and slowly making my way across this bridge. I had a partner just behind me spotting me and making sure I was ok. The group was hanging back to be sure it was safe. Below was a fast moving deep muddy river with large rocks. The distance from the bridge to the water looked to be about  15 to 20 ft.

Something happened. Suddenly this old rusty bridge jerked and I lost my balance and rolled off the edge. I was holding onto some kind of a cable that was attacked to the bridge running from one end of the bridge to the other as some kind of light support. My harner somehow got caught on a sharp old rusted piece of metal and was breaking. My spotter grabbed my line and was trying to pull me back up onto the bridge. It seemed impossible.. I was pretty much under the bridge doing a flex arm hang for my life or so what I thought would be my life. The bridge shuttered again and my line was cut. I tried to reach up to the side of the bridge and slipped. I just remember looking up at the man and suddenly I was in water. I was moving fast, So fast I didn't know which way was up. Suddenly I hit something and everything went dark. ( probably a rock )

I became conscious at this point but did not open my eyes. I tried to play along with my dream that I was dead now. My consciousness level was borderline and I started to feel vibrations. At this point I was not sure if i was awake or dreaming the vibrations. But, as they intensified so did my consciousness. I felt them come over me strong and I thought to fly... I reached up with my arms, I felt my arms separate and my legs and I suddenly felt as though Nothing else would move. My sense of disconnectedness was there and the sensation of flying was there.. but I couldn't see... Even when I tried to clear my view and say " clarity " or whatever would come to mind. I couldn't feel anything either.. It just felt like I was stuck in some kind of black abyss.   I realised in that moment.. my head was stuck... I couldn't be free of my head! I struggled but a little too much and ended up moving my body and snapped back


I had laid down for a nap with 0 intention of projecting but the dream was very " inspirational " ? I dont know if thats the right word but it put me in th right mindset to free my astral body.  I ended up staying in bed and taking another nap instead of writing it down. Had it been a just part of the dream I would have forgotten it.  However the emotions and my memory of my consciousness is a little hazy and I do slightly question weather It was just a dream or not. But even if it was, i had control of it.

awesome great to know. I will definitely look at it... Also some good news, I've been doing a lot of " praying? " while meditating that some help may come for him. Turns out his doc yesterday decided to start him on Lymes treatment to see if it will react because hes chronic, any testing would turn up negative even if he did have it.

So heres hoping !

Actually my ultimate goal is to experience freedom and explore the universe etc. Also see if there is a way for me to help heal someone i love on a spiritual level. Hes been tested for everything under the sun and no one can tell him whats wrong with him. they all say hes healthy and hes been in massive amounts of pain for the last 2 years. some kind of nerve pain. Not MS, not Lymes, etc etc the drs have given up on him and he doesn't even wanna live anymore because of how debilitating it is.

Thanks for the link I'll give it a looksy here in a minute. Also thanks for the tip I suppose I try that but theres a million different approaches and I guess I'll just try them all ^_^ I'm bound to get it eventually. If nothing else the level of calmness and meditation is doing wonders for my back.. the muscles all un-tense and I sleep MUCH better... and usually have some crazy dreams that are SEMI Lucid..

Sadly I'm not quiet sure how to " Make " it happen. But I did get further last night then I normally do so I will keep at it. I am pretty sure I felt vibrations of some kind. But it was not associated with any sounds or floating feeling.

tonight I will do the same as I did lastnight and try to push myself gradually thanks for the reply!

230am, wellno luck i think ill head to bed in a moment for real this time. Reached a new level of numb, warm, weightlessness.. intense pressure and felt as though i was swaying in water... but nothing happened past that. try as i might willing to move, float, fly, fall anything.. visualizing in my mind wht i wanted. begging any spirits or anything around me to help.. nothing.. i just laid there in this uncomfortable state of heavy tingling and detatchedness.... maybe i am just TOO awake in my mind while trying to do this.

I literally was in this state for almost an hour :/

thanks for the feedback, im not really sure why I stopped. I think because i wasnt progressing as fast as i wanted to and wanted to try the " traditional way " or at least the way others seemed to get there. However i understand its different for everyone. I try every day and night if possible, I will again tonight and if anything magical happens ill let you guys know! lol

I did really enjoy the falling feeling though.. I had live action dreams while awake ( day dreams are very very vivid for me lol )

So for the last 10-12 years i have had minimal success with projection. I at most will get vibrations and find myself locked within my physical body though experiencing the detachment... This is exciting and an experience all in its own for me. However 99% of the time I fall short of this.

Usually i lay, facing my head in the east toes to the west ( ish ) I lay quietly, deep breaths to relax, focus relaxation through the body, become heavy and numb sometimes it becomes hard to breathe due to this feeling in my face and neck ( so sometimes i have to move or shift my face to the side ) but rare. that aside... I reach fully numb asleep state, I sit.. and i wait, and i wait.. I try to focus on my third eye, i try to feel for any kind of change.. nothing happens

I might even drift off to sleep from time to time for a moment or two.. nothing happens.

I am not sure what i am doing wrong but eventually the desire to move becomes overwhelming. I get some kind of unsettling urge in my thighs to stretch or roll over onto my stomach as laying on my back is not how i like to sleep. Eventually I give up and go to bed... this has gone on for many MANY years to no avail, but I don't give up.

On a brighter note, when i was a young teenager ( 14-18 ) i used to get to this state and then imagine myself running and jumping off cliffs like super mario... landing on ledges below.. giving myself the falling feeling let me know I was on the edge of sleep... this seemed to increase my likelihood of success to reach vibrations.. the few times i did it was tremendously scary not knowing what to expect! but also extremely exciting also... then not knowing what to do next or when? do i try to get out during the vibrations? or after they stop? what if i miss my chance? what if it wasn't real at all and i move and mess it all up!

so yes, this is where i stand. Stuck. I was wondering if there is anyone out there who has experienced astral projection first hand on a more regular basis or can willfully do it somewhat reliably that could critique me... or give some tips.

Hey guys I have been following this site for a few years. About 10 years ago I was part of the astral society website and figured id register here to share some of my stories and such.

I honestly think I need to hook up with someone local to help me though, I have been at this for literally over 10 years and I have only had very few and far between experiences.

I in the past had several attempts where I was " stuck ? " within my body yanking against a rubber band to be free in the astral.

I have felt vibrations, pressure in my head like someones sitting on my face, I hear the rushing or pulsing electrical sounds or a rushing train like sound, I find myself going through everything except for actually being free of my body. If I ever do have any kind of experience it is within the prison of flesh sadly.


However lately I have had some very vivid as well as rather strange dreams!

A little about myself:

I am female, 26.. Prior military police, deployed to iraq and back once. I was injured in combat and thus ended my career in the army after only 2 years.. I finished my time completing my 4 year contract as a clerk in the orderly room and had a few very terrible things happen to me in short succession. I am now on disability due to the injuries and other such atrocities within the army that seems to happen quiet often to female soldiers ( if you know what i mean :/ )

So now I find myself being an avid video gamer, addicted to energy drinks, but otherwise eat moderately healthy. I keep dream journals ( starting to ) and i meditate every night. I have had a long history of meditation but i pass through phases of my life where i don't find time but the last 6 months i've made sure to meditate almost daily.

I sleep better and have some crazy dreams!

My goal here within the website is to maybe find a mentor of a sort. Someone with skype or something, someone who has had out of body experiences and can willfully do it. I would be eternally grateful and will document my progress as well as share my experiences and if i gain the knowledge to do it willfully I would then pass this on and teach other who showed desire.

This is something I am very passionate about and would love to learn as much as i can and yes i have read journeys out of the body and i did read astral dynamics however i am re reading them to get my mind back into it again.

I will  be posting shortly  and will be on here often if anyone cares