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Ok this all happened about 2 to 3 months ago and lasted for about two weeks. Well it started out one night with me laying in bed doing my energy work and preparing to project. Anyway I'm doing the full body circuit when I feel movement and pressure to my right like something is moving around on the bed I stop what I'm doing and and focus my attention trying to see if it was just my imagination after about I'd say a minute or so I decided it was and then decided to go bad to my energy work, right before I started however I felt the bed sinking in again to my right about six inches from my body and I had a very strong impression of someone there and that the indention was a knee. I knew that it was nothing in the physical because I had already open my eyes and taken a look so being in the meditative state I was in I willed my astral vision to come into focus and instantly it did I was looking directly at my ceiling, from this perspective I couldn't see what was next to me so I forced the perspective to change over to my right. What I seen was what looked like a man on one knee looking down at the foot of the bed. I probably spent about 20 seconds looking at him when he turned around I realized that it was me. We made eye contact and instantly the expression on his face changed from one of anxiety I'd say, to one of pure rage and hatred, he looked severely ticked at me. Instantly he hopped over and landed on top of me and proceeded to rain punches down at my face. Aparently some how the paralysis had managed to sneak up on me without me knowing, because when I tried to move I couldn't all I could do was sit there and take the punishment he was dishing out. I could feel punches landing although they didn't feel like real punches in the physical there was a feeling of force behind them and I could feel a sharp sting everytime one of them landed and a strong metallic taste in my mouth and nose. Finally I manage to twist my head over to the left, broke the paralysis my astral vision switched off and it was over. I got up moved around, felt at my face, I wasn't really injured but my face was definatly tender with a type of raw feeling, and the metalic taste was still there. At this point I opened my window turned the fan on and lit some candles and inscence. I did a cleansing ritual and prayed. After about 4 hours I decided it was safe to attempt sleep, of course I was wrong because as soon as I would become relaxed my astral vision would kick in with the paralysis and he would continue to attack me. Anyway like I said this continued for about two weeks I was suffering from a major lack of sleep and my rope was at it's end I had tried everything I could think of to do I had finally decided that I wasn't going to let this thing run my life. I laid down in bed with the intent to project and start dishing out some punishment of my own, I prepared myself by doing some protective rituals and visualizations but when I got out it wasn't there nor have I come into contact with it since. Anyway I was just doing some surfing and came across some case histories about doppelgangers in which almost every one I've read where people see their own end up with their death in the near future. Anyway I've just got a bad vibe about this and any ideas you guys have on this would be appreciated.

What's going on, it's not like I'm saying anything offensive, more like the flow of information is being contolled.

Yeah, NEW has nothing to do with visualization, in fact it's designed for people who are not good at visualization, and focuses entirely on moving your body awareness.

This might sound a little crazy to some people , but when I start having problems projecting.  I take a break from the constant trying.  I still keep the intention in the back of my mind and such but instead of trying to force it, I let it come.  This seems to work for me.

I don't know what the cause is but I've experienced extreme pain on rare occasions with the vibrations.  I think it may have something to do with blockages but I'm not 100% on that.  I do know that when it happens to me, I usually do some light energy work but other than that take a break from inducing them for week or so.

It seems to me that this may also just be an awareness focus thing.  What I mean by this is that you may loose your focus for a second as your moving the energy around and then regaining it a few inches away from where you left off, essentially leaving the energy behind.  
I've done this several times in the beginning and well I still do it if I don't pay close attention.  You can flick your awareness back a few inches to try and pick up where you left off or just wait till you come back around on the next circuit and pick it back up.

I've had this topic up for quite sometime, does anyone have any other ideas.

I've no clue, but I don't think it's kundalini I've experienced spikes from that before and it didn't feel like this.  It's something though.  Thanks for the input though.

Ok to start off last night I was feeling quite sick and my throat was progressivly getting more sore.  I decided to do some energy work to see if it would help out.  I started as I usually do with the full body circuit and then into some chakra stimulation.  Only difference this time was that as I did the excersises I worded everything that I was doing in my mind and it seemed to  help me focus my awarness more intensly.  The thing is from the very beginning of my exercises I felt an intense burning where ever I pushed the energy, I could almost feel flames licking my skin and inside me.  Except it wasn't even slightly unpleasant, just very intense and different.  I've had localized burning everynow and then and even blisters resulting from energy work but nothing on the full body scale.  This continued up until I finally reached my brow and crown centers where it felt as if my head had turned into a furnace that was about to blow from the heat and pressure.  I even started to perspire heavily.  At this point I apparently fell to sleep even though I was wide awake at  that moment I have no memories afterwards.  I woke up feeling much better, but also I felt much lighter for whatever reason.

catsyniki, I know what your talking about.  But instead of focusing to intensely try letting go a little bit more while holding your intentions in your mind.  When my astral vision kicks in and I try to focus...it gets worse.  But when I go with the flow and only slightly guide it...it quickly comes into focus.

Good Job

Ok, Let's start off by telling you what a big impact this has had on my life.  I was raised to be a devout christian...to love god and to fear him.  As far as I can tell my way of thinking began to change when I was about 6 maybe 7.  I was in a pickup truck traveling with my mother and her boyfriend along the highway when for some reason (I don't know If he fell asleep or if he just lost control) but we ended up in oncoming traffic going straight towards a semi.  I remember seeing the truck barreling towards us and then my mother pushing me down and then everything just went black...The next thing I know I'm hovering above the accident looking down.  I seem to get a little closer to ground and I can see and hear the truck driver talking to someone on the cb radioing for help.  What seemed like seconds later I watched as paramedics arrived and began pulling my mother her boyfriend and me out of the wreckage. I remember thinking that something wasn't quite right about this...I mean this went beyond anything that I was brought up to believe, and the weird thing was, I wasn't even scared it was as if I was watching someone elses accident I had never before felt so comforatable and there was this sense of "knowing" that I can't explain.  The paramedics put us on stretchers and I watched as we were placed in the ambulance.  I turned to look at the truck we had been riding in when I saw something inside.  It was ME looking back up at me.  There seemed to be a very strong connection between myself and the me in the truck...we kept staring at each other as if we were both in disbelief and wanting the other to make the first move.  The next thing I know I am sitting straight up in the hospital with a nurse taking my vitals.  My mother and her boyfriend were in critical condition and I had escaped with out a scratch.  After that incident the out of body experiences came very frequently to me, sometimes came so strongly that it was as if I was being ripped from my body by some unseen force.  I thought that I had discovered something totally new but about the time I turned 15 I had found the internet and began doing research into what it was that was happening to me, and found that similar experiences have happened to countless people.
Not only have the obe's and astral projections come very often but I also have pre cognitive dreams, I can see things that are not anywhere near me, and have discovered that I can sort of influence others into making decisions through what I guess is some sort of telethapy.  Lol well I guess I'm rambaling but there is one thing that I am sure unsure of.  What was the 3rd instance of me during my NDE (the one that was still in the truck looking at me)?  Possibly my ethiric body knocked from me by the shock of the accident?  If so is it possible for the ethiric to exist in the real time zone without the real time double because obviously my consciousness was in the real time zone and had to have some sort of vehicle right?  Anyway any ideas on this would be greatly appreciated.

                                                      Thank You,
                                                      biggymatt

I was wondering if anyone has experienced physical pains as a result of energy work, particulary those of the new system.  I have been using the new system for several months now in an attempt to better develop my energy body and have had great success.  The other night however I had a very intense session and the next morning my entire lower body was in pain as well as a spot right below my right shoulder.  This were not normal sleep pains but a deep acheing through out the whole of the afflicted areas.  The next day the pains were gone with no trace.  If this has happened to anyone or you know what it is your feedback would be appreciated.

Does anyone know of a place I can go to in order to get away from everyhing in order to explore my spirituality.  Preferably a place with other like minded people like myself.  I feel as if I am trapped in this society I live in and just need some time away.

below is an excerpt from my journal, any thoughts and feedback on what exactly is happening would be greatly appeciated.

March 23

Energy sensations, head throbbing, light all around me

Yesterday I went through the normal routine stimulating my energy body and attempting to use different techniques to project, after a while I gave up and went back to my computer.  Later that night before sleep I did some more extensive energy work and attempted to get into that state between awake and asleep.  I soon realized that I was too far asleep than I needed to be so I brought myself awake.  I could no longer feel my body totally because it had fallen asleep will I had been flicking.  I did however feel strong energy sensations coming from my feet to my head (I could feel the energy being drawn through my feet and hands to an extent) every time it went through me an intense feeling or cold would sweep through me (as well as when I did any further chakra stimulation it would ripple coldness from that particular spot.  I soon realized that my head was pulsing/throbbing very intensely it was not painful just strange it felt as if there were a worm in my head crawling around trying to get out, it would throb to the left and then to the right back and forth as well as to the front and back.  I also had the impression that the room I was in was very brightly lit and surrounded with light, this impossible because I had turned all the lights off and my girl friend had closed the blind, I could feel the light pushing past my closed eyelids.  Through out the whole experience I continued to flick awareness to points outside my body and back repeatedly trying to get them to stay outside.  The next thing I know the phone is ringing the next morning and I wake up.  I felt strangely invigorated and acutely more aware than I usually do early in the mornings.  If I did project I don't' remember it but the experience is not a total failure as the sensations and the strangeness of the situation were incredible.

A question.  Many times while meditating and working on my energy body preparing to project, my astral vision starts working and I can see the room around me while my eyes are closed, even turn to look other directions if I focus hard enough. Sometimes I am aware of other figures or forms in the room around me.  They usually do not seem negative mostly just watching me.  Sometimes they are there for a sec when I exit but fade away quickly.  Are these figments of my imagination or actual beings?

This is an excerpt from my journal of an experiance I had last night any feedback would be appreciated.

April 5th

This experience happened about 1'oclock in the morning I had started my energy work and relaxation much before that though.

I had started earlier in the night with some visual relaxation program and then a self-hypnosis audio program.  When I went to bed I started with my energy work as I was already extremely relaxed.  I didn't feel much as I think that my energy body is becoming stronger.  After I got done with my secondary stimulation and full body circuit I started working on my chakras.  I felt as though I would fall asleep though so I alternated chakra stimulation  with projection exit techniques.  I would soon get tired and start to drift to sleep but I would catch my self before it took hold then do a little more energy work and then some more exit techniques. After this happened a few times I became aware of my astral vision and tried separating from my body.  I managed to shift my awarness outside a few times but only for a matter of seconds. Eventually I started to drift off to sleep.  I caught myself one last time but this time I asked for the vibrations to come and reached out for them, and they came.  They came so suddenly and intensly that I was caught off guard when I thought that I was ready for separation I started to just "let it take me" but I suddenly felt a sweep of dread come over me like I was in immense danger I could here banging and felt as if something was waiting to take me.  I was terrified.  I almost decided to just go through with it as I know that once I get out there will be nothing there but, the fear was to much.  It came out of nowhere and had complete control of me.  I aborted the projection but when I tried to come out it was as if the vibrations didn't want to let go of me they kept pulling me toward the other side when I tried to move the paralysis would not let me which only furthered my terror.  Finally I broke free but was terribly disappointed at myself for not doing it.  I don't understand where this fear comes from.  I was mentally prepared and I even said a prayer and asked for protection.  It is not like this is my first projection I have projected numerous times, but this is also not the first time this type of experience as happened and it makes me wonder.

Observations:
It felt as though there was a pressance waiting for me something dark and sinister.
This is not the first time this has happened.
I have had very bad experiences with a negative entity in the past but not during a projection.
I believe it to be the same entity which possessed my great grandmother, also the same entity  which tried to kill my grandmother, and the same one which tried to kill me and my cousin.

Well I had a similar situation happen when I was in middle school...I had came home from a very bad day threw myself down on the bed and begged for god to take me that I didn't want this life anymore.  Almost as soon as I finished that thought I felt a very powerful wind pulling me from my body trying to get me out.  Well it managed to pull out my entire body...except for my head...It felt like my 2 heads where locked together, I tried to help the wind out and push against the bed but had no luck.  Finally I just gave up and when I did my heads separated and I was pulled away very rapidly.  Next thing I remember is waking up the next morning.  I think the problem was simply physical tension...cause when I quit fighting I just slipped out. Hope that helps.

I had a similar experience to this, it occured while doing some energy work.  Suddenly something like my astral vision kicked in except I wasn't seeing the room around me...I was seeing lots gruesome acts of violence...alota blood and sex...at one point it appeared in the first perspective as if I was in the eyes of the guy slitting some other guys throat...it shook me up pretty good.  I would pull out of it sit up...but when I went back the images would return.  I asked around about  
what may have caused this and had a few people tell me that it is just astral trash energies...but I don't really know.

Yeah I definetly think that it is something along those lines except not with the physical body.  I mean it was already in the ambulance when I seen the other.

Yes they have calmed down to a great extent as far as the "being ripped from my body" spontaneus obe's although they still occur like this during times of great stress or when I'm about to make some major life decsions.  And I can induce them using trance/projection techniques and my energy work but it is a little more difficult than it used to be.

Well Jbot,  I've had this happen to me on several occasions while stimulating the energy body especially in my right leg.  While I believe sometimes it is unavoidable other times you may be able to get around it with better physical body disassociation ie...go into a deeper trance state.

Yes Viliki I am positive that it was another instance of me in the truck, I mean it looked just like me plus I had a strange duality sesation.  Come to think of it, I actually felt more connected with the 3rd instance of myself than I did with my physical body.  My physical body felt unimportant like something to be discarded...something I shouldn't really worry about.

Well thanks for the link timeless I am going to look into this.  But actually I was talking more of a retreat type thing.  Somewhere I can go away from the hustle and bustle of normal everyday life.  Somewhere where I can interact with others who also project, or are just working on their spirituality in general.  Somewhere where we can gather and discuss our experiences and learn from each other.  

P.S.  Do not reply if the place your thinking of has a insane leader who expects us to drink funny smelling punch and die.

Thanks for the info Nick I will have to look into it.  The only problem is LA is very far from here, if anyone has heard of anything closer to the east coast please let me know.  If I have to go to LA I will but would like to look closer first.